Backbone vs Razer Kishi - Best iPhone 13 Pro Max Gaming Controller

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I have to return one. Which one?
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@techbyleon
@techbyleon Жыл бұрын
Many of you stated that Backbone now include the adapter for the bigger phones. Watch my original first look with the backbone to see what I am talking about. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jb12iaV-yaeblok.html
@tomlee252
@tomlee252 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of these verses videos and you are the first to show the price of the "free" adapter for the backbone, and the shipping cost of $5, also there is a 30-40-dollar price difference, plus the backbone has an app that you need to download, first year is free, but it's $49.99 per year after that on top of any other subscriptions that you may have
@chefbezos
@chefbezos Жыл бұрын
Extremely insightful, thanks a lot for this video
@likabosssdog9882
@likabosssdog9882 2 жыл бұрын
Even tho you need an subscription for the app, is the app a must to use the remote for gaming?
@AmpyxMusic
@AmpyxMusic 2 жыл бұрын
You just made my decision 10000x easier thank you 🙏🏼
@crammons7330
@crammons7330 2 жыл бұрын
Picked up the Kishi for $60 from my local Walmart which had several in stock a few weeks back (I wasn't shopping for one just came across it browsing electronics section) and have been very pleased with the purchase. Actually I've been surprisingly impressed, and never leave home without it. With unlimited data plan through att (throttles speed once over 22gb I believe) I'm able to play horizon 4 and 5, killer instinct gold, mortal kombat 11, and diablo 2 resurrected just fine. And as far as horizon 5 goes its the only way I can access any online play or features is through using cloud play on phone or MacBook through internet browser as with it installed I receive horizon server's unavailable for months now and have tried every tip and trick to troubleshoot with no luck yet
@naavidmorshed5516
@naavidmorshed5516 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I was thinking about getting the V2 kishi but hardly got any idea on remote play. Which service do you use? Can you play any pc games with a 10mbps internet?
@chefbezos
@chefbezos Жыл бұрын
Which Kishi version / model did you get Crammons ?
@ghosttiee9212
@ghosttiee9212 Жыл бұрын
@@naavidmorshed5516 don’t get the v2 the backbone is still better and if you have android or iPhone it’s for android too now and you won’t regret it better dpad and buttons the v2 is good but not the best backbone is a lot better
@martinsonuoha
@martinsonuoha 2 жыл бұрын
This video came in handly, and perfect timing too. How was this video published last year????
@alexcirco3347
@alexcirco3347 Жыл бұрын
What is the song playing in the background, please?
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 2 жыл бұрын
Do the offer the file if you have a 3D printer? I don't even have an iPhone but it seems like that would be a good option if you did.
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
They do have the 3D file if you want to print it.
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 2 жыл бұрын
@@techbyleon Ah cool.
@wrestle_dream_
@wrestle_dream_ 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting 4 my razer kishi to come in I ordered mine on the Xbox store for the android version
@twin_tempest2207
@twin_tempest2207 2 жыл бұрын
The backbone has an official adapter for the 13 pro and max to accommodate for the larger camera bump. I went to their website and it says that the adapters come with each purchase, but don’t quote me on this, I could be wrong
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are now including it in the box.
@nnnooowwwaaayyy
@nnnooowwwaaayyy 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh, I’m glad I kept watching. I was thinking the backbone was no an option once I saw that camera issue
@nathanfischer9573
@nathanfischer9573 2 жыл бұрын
New packaging for the backbone should have the iPhone 13 adapter included now (in Australia at least). However one thing they get you on is after the first "free year", the app NOW costs $79.95 AUD PER YEAR. And the app is the attractive part of the backbone. Refuse to spend that much money for a subscription on an app for a product that already costs almost $200AUD. Supremely disappointed as the backbone felt nice, and the app well thought out but that's a hard money grab to be asking that much a year for a "firmware" app.
@gIitchway
@gIitchway Жыл бұрын
wow another great video
@paulbowler5345
@paulbowler5345 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to have the subscription app on a Backbone, or can you still remote play on PlayStation without it?
@techbyleon
@techbyleon Жыл бұрын
You don't need the Backbone app for the Playstation Remote play. Only the Remote Play App on your phone. Hope that helps.
@paulbowler5345
@paulbowler5345 Жыл бұрын
@@techbyleon Oh cheers, thanks for letting me know.
@glene.smithii8112
@glene.smithii8112 Жыл бұрын
@ThisVSThatUnboxed what knife do you use for unboxing?
@techbyleon
@techbyleon Жыл бұрын
haha, it's just a cheap pocket knife I got from amazon. www.amazon.com/vdp/0074daf04afc4e27b6356325e4f3949d
@goloyblog
@goloyblog Жыл бұрын
is it no ban on call of duty when you use razer kishi or backbone game controller?..coz im worried may COD will ban my account..when call of duty will ban your account for 10yrs?!..that is not cool its unfair..
@lil_brook97
@lil_brook97 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me? My backbone controller connect to my iPhone for some reason.
@lil_brook97
@lil_brook97 2 жыл бұрын
Edit: I meant to say my backbone controller would not let me connect to iPhone for some reason.
@IHAVEASCENDED
@IHAVEASCENDED 2 жыл бұрын
The kishi v2 is basically a backbone for android.
@cigarsrytv9207
@cigarsrytv9207 2 жыл бұрын
If you get it at Best Buy it comes with the adapter in the box
@ikbev
@ikbev 9 ай бұрын
Can you please do a video on the best controller for iPhone 15 pro max?
@Jeremy_Huggins
@Jeremy_Huggins 2 жыл бұрын
Public service announcement/warning: This product now has a $50 yearly subscription for the app to have functionality. They do not state the cost it anywhere on their website or app store. You get the first year free then need to pay yearly. Its basically a $100 controller unless you want to cough up the extra $50 yearly. I would recommend staying away and waiting for the upcoming Razer Kishi V2 (has a free app called Razer Nexus).
@user-zh8bo1lq1v
@user-zh8bo1lq1v 2 жыл бұрын
Subscription of the backbone app or the game pass?
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
For the backbone.
@sgt.reload7002
@sgt.reload7002 2 жыл бұрын
Would the backbone work with the iPhone SE 3 generation
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
It should since the iPhone 13 will fit and the SE is pretty much the same size
@sty723
@sty723 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I thought 3d printing was just in Watchdogs 2. I didn’t know it was real😳
@knello15
@knello15 Жыл бұрын
Man they 3d printing houses now! Possibilities are endless!
@Kao5_rfn
@Kao5_rfn 2 жыл бұрын
have you tried using the backbone controller but not using the app??
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that will work just fine. But a lot of the selling point that they mention on the box is on the app itself, thats why you pay more for the Backbone.
@stevenchartrand8554
@stevenchartrand8554 2 жыл бұрын
What about an iPhone 13 Pro Max with an Apple case? Would you always need to remove your phone from the case with the Kishi?
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Does not "Work". It will ft but the Lightning port is too short to connect to the phone with the Case. Might work with a really slim case.
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Check this video out if you want a visual. www.amazon.com/vdp/041ac9802dab46ef82b7f97fd2bf04a3?product=B08FFPKRYW&ref=cm_sw_em_r_ib_dt_HNVcQ48WVF3l5
@MentalMichael
@MentalMichael 2 жыл бұрын
Will have to take the case off but it does come with an adapter for the iPhone 13 pro and pro Max. They started including it in box and now you don't have to order it separately after buying.
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
@@MentalMichael I’m glad they are doing that. Mine came after 2 weeks.
@OhLookItsLewis
@OhLookItsLewis 2 жыл бұрын
@@MentalMichael is this the adapter for the backbone or for the kishi?
@airdan23
@airdan23 2 жыл бұрын
Do you need a subscription for the Razer Kishi just like the backbone requires ?
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Only The backbone. Razer Doesn''t have an app that does subscription.
@Chr1s8o8
@Chr1s8o8 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use a case with the 13 pro max on the kishi?
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, unfortunately no. Even with smaller iPhone it doesn’t work because the contacts with the lightning port is not long enough.
@Chr1s8o8
@Chr1s8o8 2 жыл бұрын
@@techbyleon thank you 🙏🏼
@Creed5.56
@Creed5.56 2 жыл бұрын
Late response here, but I have a Razer Kishi and use it with my iPhone 13 pro max... So IDK what he's talking about, used mine today and it works perfectly lol
@Viscerant
@Viscerant 2 жыл бұрын
@@Creed5.56 with a case?
@christovclarke4433
@christovclarke4433 Жыл бұрын
How to get the razer kishi to play COD.
@TheTorqueAholic
@TheTorqueAholic 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that the Kishi needs inserts for Pro max iPhones… unless they come with the inserts in the box….
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
For the Kishi it doesnt. Mine fit perfectly without the case.
@francescoaiello5939
@francescoaiello5939 2 жыл бұрын
The iPhone 13 pro and pro max needs inserts for the Backbone, but they are now included in the packaging and do not need to be ordered separately.
@CMG02
@CMG02 11 ай бұрын
Bro really saved himself from a war in the comments when he said he was talking about the bump.
@FunningRast
@FunningRast 2 жыл бұрын
2:31 Your personal address is shown in the video on the order page for the 3d printed adapter.
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Thanks for catching that!
@Hankerang
@Hankerang 2 жыл бұрын
It’s still shown
@lonewolf2460
@lonewolf2460 Жыл бұрын
Will they work with iPhone 14 pro max?
@KulaKamisato
@KulaKamisato 11 ай бұрын
Now the question is. Will they work for iphone15 pro max. Consider it has usb c type and a bigger camera bump .
@ghosttiee9212
@ghosttiee9212 Жыл бұрын
I had the Kishi v2 and nah it sucks I refunded it and got the backbone PlayStation version and man it’s clean
@investor.z
@investor.z 2 жыл бұрын
Gamesir X2 lightning because I can use a case with it.
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Will have to try that one ☝️
@kevinowen7388
@kevinowen7388 Жыл бұрын
Pity they make this type so we don't need to take off our phone case.
@mantrasmooth
@mantrasmooth 2 жыл бұрын
Backbone does have a Android version ☺️
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Not released yet. playbackbone.com/products/backbone-one/
@icehousemuzik
@icehousemuzik 2 жыл бұрын
No they don't. They need to. I don't understand why they would not make one for android. But
@granade8333
@granade8333 2 жыл бұрын
@@icehousemuzik cuz it’s complicated to do sth for android. There’s too many options for Android phones. It’s just chaos. Every phone companies have different ports with different version of android. We already have over 24,000 distinct android devices. That’s why developers don’t want to do sth intended for Android. But for Iphone, u just need lightning port and it can fit for every IPhone. Simple
@icehousemuzik
@icehousemuzik 2 жыл бұрын
@@granade8333 Razor did it! Look I'm not saying it's easy. But if you gone hope in that lane you better do it right. There might be 24,000 different android device's but there only a few that actually matter. So why not do what razor did atleast and try to hit the top brand android devices. That should be a perk anyway when you BUY SAMSUNG. that's like the face of Android dude.
@OGKing4
@OGKing4 2 жыл бұрын
It’s available now on their website.
@ItsKDen.
@ItsKDen. Жыл бұрын
The backbone comes with an adapter for iPhone 13/ 13 pro max users so the camera bumps won’t get damaged
@zachofalltrades6116
@zachofalltrades6116 2 жыл бұрын
the iphone 12 pro max is the same on the back with a 3rd camera
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
The iPhone 13 Pro and Pro max has a bigger camera bump
@papermaker2726
@papermaker2726 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@albahsaralto2522
@albahsaralto2522 2 жыл бұрын
Can i play xbox game?but i don’t have a xbox console..so actually i want buy backbone because, it’s say can play xbox game.
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
U can play Xbox games on both controllers. It would have to be Xbox Game Pass Ultimate for the cloud gaming feature. It’s ok to not own an Xbox, but you are missing out on a lot of what the Ultimate Pass has to offer.
@josea.martinez2234
@josea.martinez2234 2 жыл бұрын
100 dollars and then 5 dollar shipping for an adapter. Guess I’m going with the Kishi. I already had the Kishi for my android and it’s a great controller.
@doglover136_
@doglover136_ 2 жыл бұрын
The left joystick will eventually go out happened to me yesterday only had the backbone since christmas eve
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s almost built like the joycon
@doglover136_
@doglover136_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@techbyleon i’ve only used the backbone don’t know what to joycon is
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
@@doglover136_ joycon is from Nintendo switch. It had a reputation of drifting after a year
@doglover136_
@doglover136_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@techbyleon ok, my joystick didn’t drift, it just basically quit i tested it after that in roblox and my character runs ins. straight line and i can’t to anything about it
@nickslick6
@nickslick6 Жыл бұрын
Good video, but not having an android makes the review less valuable
@danysagului
@danysagului 2 жыл бұрын
Which is compatible with pubg?
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
Both works well. The Kishi stick will give you more room to move and doesn’t feel like you have a high DPI mouse. If that makes sense
@icehousemuzik
@icehousemuzik 2 жыл бұрын
For android at the moment the best one us Gamesir x2 hands down
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
I need to look into that one.
@icehousemuzik
@icehousemuzik 2 жыл бұрын
@@techbyleon yeah bro u definitely wanna do a review on that one. That's definitely two more vids for ya unless u wanna review and compare them. There's not a lotta of people doing this just yet but there will be and by that time you'll be recognized for making these gamepad vids
@icehousemuzik
@icehousemuzik 2 жыл бұрын
I will say though if backbone had an android version. It would be no competition what so ever. I just bought the razor today and the only two things that bug me are the way it fits your phone. Gamesir has the tighter smarter fit hands down. And second it isn't natively compatible with Cod mobile. Ion know which company made that mistake but yeah.
@KT-of2el
@KT-of2el 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't say which one you would choose at the end, so you leave your audience with no conclusion. Review and comparison videos should always have conclusions to summarize the video at the end.
@foodvstravel667
@foodvstravel667 2 жыл бұрын
7:41 - He won't using the backbone.
@MobileDecay
@MobileDecay 2 жыл бұрын
@@foodvstravel667 He was talking about the software that came with the backbone.
@My03Tundra
@My03Tundra 2 жыл бұрын
He provided you with the facts, and information, and instead of telling you which one should get, or his opinion, he left you with the information so YOU could decide on your own. My Backbone, unfortunately, had controller disconnect issues. I had looked at the Kishi, but many reviews said the buttons and triggers were soft in a bad kind of way, meaning mushy and/or sloppy. The Backbone, oh man, it felt like a dream to hold, like it had turned my iPhone into a legitimate console. I love it. I also have a GameSir X2, which is a nice controller. It’s shortcomings are very clicky shoulder butttons, and lack of resistant triggers. That controller is perfect for action games that don’t require resistive triggers. I was going to get the Kishi controller mainly because it folds up smaller and fits in a bag, BUT, the lack of a backbone/spine, makes it floppier and doesn’t hold together as well.
@My03Tundra
@My03Tundra 2 жыл бұрын
I did get the Kishi, and it is number 2 behind the Backbone. The buttons aren’t horrible, and it’s comfortable. The biggest issue with it, is it unfolds and disconnects if you tighten your grip too much.
@TheNameAlexMTX
@TheNameAlexMTX Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t titled which one he would use it was titled as a comparison he just compared their differences. I have the backbone and I really enjoy it because even though you have to pay with a subscription, it gives you access to cloud gaming so you could play Grandtheft auto five or to Apex legends, and so on without having to use your Xbox and without having to be home or having to use your PlayStation or PC
@Funniest_Days.
@Funniest_Days. 2 жыл бұрын
Can Razher play any game?
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
It truly depends on the game that supports joypad. LIke if you tried to play Roblox it won't support it. If you play anything that's on Xbox Game Pass, chances are everything will work on there. I found that half the iOS gmes that you would think should support, doesn't.
@literallyjustadot7943
@literallyjustadot7943 2 жыл бұрын
The backbone literally comes with an adapter out of the box, and an android version was made. The kishi is bulky (although it is nice that it folds up) and the latch is flimsy compared to the backbone. The backbone has better buttons as well cuz the kishi buttons feel mushy. The backbone is the better pick.
@remmett1088
@remmett1088 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@rnifbogaming5072
@rnifbogaming5072 2 жыл бұрын
Get the game flex best razor shitty alternative
@literallyjustadot7943
@literallyjustadot7943 2 жыл бұрын
@@rnifbogaming5072 where do I find this?
@05zianne
@05zianne Жыл бұрын
There is no android backbone for android yet . It’s said coming soon on the website.
@literallyjustadot7943
@literallyjustadot7943 Жыл бұрын
@@05zianne on Amazon there is
@mluna777
@mluna777 2 жыл бұрын
That kishi crap didn’t work for me,the red light blink one time and goes off,spend almost 100$ for nothing!
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
The red light is interesting for me. It ONLY would turn on if I am in a game. But just plugging it in doesn’t turn it on. Even though it’s not on, I can still control some of the things on the screen. This is mainly on safari/Xbox game pass
@julia_0872
@julia_0872 2 жыл бұрын
Why what happened?
@473gang9
@473gang9 2 жыл бұрын
Ur actually way wrong about the backbone app it dose way more than what u said
@05zianne
@05zianne Жыл бұрын
What does it do that he didn’t mention
@kevincorbett829
@kevincorbett829 2 жыл бұрын
I got the iPhone 13 pro max. And just bought the Razer Kishi. AMAZING!!!
@airdan23
@airdan23 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to download an app to play games with it or it works out of the box? Also, nba 2k and CoD compatible? (13 pro max user here)
@Creed5.56
@Creed5.56 2 жыл бұрын
@@airdan23 nope, just works out of the box! I also got a 13 pro max, got mine today and it works fine with no app or software
@deletedaccount573
@deletedaccount573 2 жыл бұрын
@@Creed5.56 wow interesting Can u tell me your gaming experience??
@JShadow6661
@JShadow6661 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use voice chat with it?
@GeorgeNadaYT
@GeorgeNadaYT 2 жыл бұрын
Backbone looks cheap. Kishi looks premium.
@princewhitely7981
@princewhitely7981 2 жыл бұрын
Having a subscription for a gaming controller app that gives you news and few instructions is a big failure typical apple product no wonder they don't have a backbone for android users cause we don't put up with crap based on the pros and cons the kishi still better than that overpriced device
@m53bandpageofficial44
@m53bandpageofficial44 2 жыл бұрын
Bias?
@techbyleon
@techbyleon 2 жыл бұрын
I was actually expecting to like the backbone going into this review.
@TheMailman1500
@TheMailman1500 Жыл бұрын
Backbone does have an android version
@ChronicAndIronic
@ChronicAndIronic 2 жыл бұрын
Backbone would personally win for me if they were willing to make a better version of their product with parallel joysticks, there’s nothing that bothers me more than having to hold something funny like a switch or Xbox, thank god valve is making the steam deck parallel
@justind9631
@justind9631 2 жыл бұрын
Then just use a gay PlayStation controller
@ChronicAndIronic
@ChronicAndIronic 2 жыл бұрын
@@justind9631 nah I wanna hold it like a switch. But I like my joysticks the way I am am: straight
@justind9631
@justind9631 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChronicAndIronic yea your small feminine hands aren’t use to holding big things and different portions that’s why you need the joystick aligned
@ChronicAndIronic
@ChronicAndIronic 2 жыл бұрын
@@justind9631 nah, I just like stuff symmetrical. Like the valve steam deck, balanced and even like everything should be
@justind9631
@justind9631 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChronicAndIronic everything nots made the same gotta be different no matter who don’t like it, I for one think the product is excellent and I value you opinion
@rileymorgan9900
@rileymorgan9900 Жыл бұрын
Backbone has android now
@kntwing23
@kntwing23 2 жыл бұрын
lmfao $99 with tax on the back bone.. get the F out of here..apple.
@gamersbox2583
@gamersbox2583 Жыл бұрын
He don’t know how to use the backbone… the controller come’s with a extended peace For Bigger Phones 📱
@techbyleon
@techbyleon Жыл бұрын
Start at 6:42. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jb12iaV-yaeblok.html
@eel900
@eel900 2 жыл бұрын
This video is for rich people
@TheLucidParadox
@TheLucidParadox 2 жыл бұрын
Razer kishi price has dropped down to like 55 from 110, 200 some places. At least near me you should check it out in ur area you might get a nice deal
@GMT2019
@GMT2019 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLucidParadox I have iPhone 12 Pro Max , is it also got the camera bump in the back as for the backbone ? Thanks
@kntwing23
@kntwing23 2 жыл бұрын
i have the razer 1 is the best.. sry i phone.. i dont like the design for the i phone controller..shit is wack..
@ghosttiee9212
@ghosttiee9212 Жыл бұрын
Hater
@infinimix3836
@infinimix3836 Жыл бұрын
Youre doing it wrong
@Strugglin
@Strugglin Жыл бұрын
iphone sucks D
@cigarsrytv9207
@cigarsrytv9207 2 жыл бұрын
If you get it at Best Buy it comes with the adapter in the box
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