Backhoe Hydraulic Repair - Loader Does not Lift

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Goldenfab

Goldenfab

6 жыл бұрын

CAT 416 Backhoe. The bucket lift suddenly became very weak and would hardly lift half way up. Working another control would seem to make the bucket lift momentarily. All the other hydraulics still worked flawlessly. The problem turned out being the o-ring seals on the check valves in the hydraulic valve group. There appeared to be a redesign of the check valve assembly with the new design having backing rings for the o-ring seals which makes my think this was a common failure mode. In my internet research on the the symptoms I was having others have reported the same problems and said that this problem is the result of the pump not being triggered because a blown out seal in an adjacent control valve in the control group. In most cased the check valve for the valve for the control that is not working is not the issue but another one in the control network.

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@mrreliable9865
@mrreliable9865 6 ай бұрын
Same problem here you saved me ton of time on diag. Thanks for taking time to upload. all my orings were dry rot few were missing
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 6 ай бұрын
Happy to hear it helped you out. Not the best video I know but I had such a hard time figuring this out I wanted to be sure and share what I learned.
@davidbrowning4754
@davidbrowning4754 24 күн бұрын
i used this video and repaired my machine...very informative clip thank you
@arianam5133
@arianam5133 5 жыл бұрын
same thing happen to my 416B thank you, you saved me a lot of time!!!!
@user-cy9ly5lp8u
@user-cy9ly5lp8u 10 ай бұрын
Continue,,,, I benefited from this video a lot, thank you
@sterlingdavidgrasssr
@sterlingdavidgrasssr 5 жыл бұрын
It always breaks down out in the field, your lucky it wasn't in the mud, Nice job.. It's always under the tractor in a hard place to get to, Thanks..
@mapquestHs
@mapquestHs 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have a Bobcat with the exact same symptoms! You may have just saved me from having to remove my whole valve body!
@MartyEscarcega
@MartyEscarcega 6 жыл бұрын
Way to go Adam. Good luck on the new project!
@debragoggan3270
@debragoggan3270 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that,i have the same problem on my 92 model 428B.
@danielmitchell2659
@danielmitchell2659 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much same problem 1986 416 . fyi if anyone has trouble with older machine that won't keep running rusty fuel tank. Friend of mine spent a year trying to figure it out thankfully only took me a week with his help!!!
@VicsYard
@VicsYard 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Mitchell Rusty fuel tank. I learned to keep them full of fuel when not in service. I had to replace a steel tank on a diesel generator once. Sucks but works
@danielsmart7368
@danielsmart7368 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been having this exact problem. Thank you
@Si_Hano
@Si_Hano 6 жыл бұрын
thank you...very good video. i have the same problem but with the back boom.
@lindawilliams5627
@lindawilliams5627 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful to the young engineers
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. I know the video quality isn't the best but there wasn't much out there which is why I made it.
@stephenchadee3173
@stephenchadee3173 5 жыл бұрын
thank you. have the same problem with a 432e
@jkuwrangler7582
@jkuwrangler7582 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro I have same problem in swing valve on my 1999 426c
@timw7481
@timw7481 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks pretty sure this is what my machine needs
@bca9028
@bca9028 6 жыл бұрын
Tq your video can help me.very Tq
@jerweave
@jerweave 3 жыл бұрын
Dude! So helpful. I have this same problem and am hoping this is it. I'll report back.
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear its helpful.
@teleman5678
@teleman5678 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I have the same issue.
@thegreatdays3756
@thegreatdays3756 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful thanks mate.😊
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@herlanzin
@herlanzin 5 жыл бұрын
Me ayudo mucho! , thank you
@leoramirez6539
@leoramirez6539 4 жыл бұрын
Hola amigo mire que le sirvió el video yo no entiendo inglés pero si usted me puede ayudar le agradecería la válvula es igual alas 3 secciones
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork 5 жыл бұрын
It's tough when you can only get it up half way. We've all been there...
@trevnico
@trevnico 5 жыл бұрын
you did that the hardest way possible... its way easier to just pull the whole valve group down...and the best fix is just to replace the whole spool valve... messing with all the check balls for the detent is a nightmare
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. Hopefully I don't have to do it again but if I do I'll keep that in mind.
@kingjenkins2878
@kingjenkins2878 Жыл бұрын
Thanks alot 👌😊🥰💯
@sildikreci1814
@sildikreci1814 3 жыл бұрын
Ive done it on mycat 438B 😍
@mikaeelmohammed7592
@mikaeelmohammed7592 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video, it was really a great help ! However, my back bucket won't lift but I get all the other motions. I checked the seals and all were good but i don't know if a ball bearing was missing! Could that cause loss of motion ?
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't know enough to say for sure but I think not having a check valve could possibly cause the problem. Hope you get it going again!
@MrZiiro
@MrZiiro 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you i learn something knew.
@xtrnisse
@xtrnisse 3 жыл бұрын
Would the principle of this issue apply to other weakness issues? I have a mini excavator where the arm pull (is that what it's called?) is a bit weak. Could the issue be damaged o-rings somewhere in the system, like in this case?
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert on this.... From what I have gathered though if your arm pull is weak and it strengthens when you operate another hydraulic control simultaneously then its probably something in the resolver network, so yes maybe damaged o-rings on the resolvers like I had. Best of luck!
@MitzvosGolem1
@MitzvosGolem1 6 жыл бұрын
thank Shalom Ps try Lucas hydraulic fluid stop leak seal condition additive I sealed alot of small leaks. This is different. Shalom
@MohammedAhmed-ue5iw
@MohammedAhmed-ue5iw Ай бұрын
My backhoe 438series2 has a problem with lifting the backet,can you help me please
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab Ай бұрын
I'm don't know much more than I shared in the video. I would reach out on an online forum.
@stephenli4171
@stephenli4171 5 жыл бұрын
why is the steering of caterpillar 428C heavy to move unless with moving of the bucket?
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know but I would guess you have the same problem - one of the resolvers is not functioning.
@rastlinmajare2214
@rastlinmajare2214 5 жыл бұрын
hello where I can get parts for the hydraulic control of the jd400 since the originals no longer manufacture them. Any recommendation
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry I have no idea. Might check places like ebay and ask around at local shops or online tractor forums.
@user-cy9ly5lp8u
@user-cy9ly5lp8u Жыл бұрын
hope this helps someone else out.... Yes, it is very important ، thanks..
@Praveenkumar-eh4fo
@Praveenkumar-eh4fo 4 жыл бұрын
Any video on excavator swing circuit
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 4 жыл бұрын
No sorry. I have never worked on an ex.
@prasadchinna3135
@prasadchinna3135 5 жыл бұрын
Super
@kapilkumarpathak6484
@kapilkumarpathak6484 3 жыл бұрын
I need help with me
@larryreagan6936
@larryreagan6936 3 жыл бұрын
It's usually the resolver ball assemblies that cause this problem, they're located on the side of the valve under the same style plug. be very careful because there are many different lengths to these and if you get them mixed up you can ruin the valve housing and set yourself back several thousand dollars for a new one, you were very fortunate this was your problem. 99% of the time it's not. I've been repairing hydraulics for over 30 years and the 416 cats are notorious for this problem, they should issue a recall!
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@agwhoneedsaphd2643
@agwhoneedsaphd2643 Жыл бұрын
You found parts!!!!
@paulskystoneadventures
@paulskystoneadventures 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@johns78c
@johns78c 6 жыл бұрын
So what happened to the rotary valve engine?
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Johns I have not worked on it in a while. I'm not giving up on it. Just ran out of time and money for now. Focusing on building a new shop now and then I'll see about resuming the project.
@noknokitzmemo9114
@noknokitzmemo9114 5 жыл бұрын
What was 5he part that you replaced called after all?
@judenrahim4839
@judenrahim4839 Жыл бұрын
What the part number for the valve assembly?
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab Жыл бұрын
I don't know. If you make an account on the cat parts website and enter the serial number of your machine it should tell you.
@user-by4lm2kh5d
@user-by4lm2kh5d 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a problem with the CAT 428C digger?
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't have any experience with the 428C only limited experience with my 416C machine.
@user-by4lm2kh5d
@user-by4lm2kh5d 3 жыл бұрын
@@Goldenfab I'm from Libya Does anyone know this problem?
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-by4lm2kh5d Sorry I don't know
@aubsen9704
@aubsen9704 4 жыл бұрын
Know how to flush and clean the entire hydraulic system at one time?
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't. I'm sure they are for sale somewhere. I have heard of people making a flushing system.
@kapilkumarpathak6484
@kapilkumarpathak6484 3 жыл бұрын
cat 966h wheel loader problem lift cylinder not working
@kapilkumarpathak6484
@kapilkumarpathak6484 3 жыл бұрын
CAT 966H wheel loader problem in lift cylinder not working I need to help with me
@kapilkumarpathak6484
@kapilkumarpathak6484 3 жыл бұрын
I am HEMM Mechanic
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't have experience with that machine.
@walasiewicz
@walasiewicz 2 жыл бұрын
Trash doesn't blow an oring, fatigue and pressure blows orings
@henrymbau1197
@henrymbau1197 6 жыл бұрын
I have a promblem with Transmission
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 6 жыл бұрын
Henry Mbau sorry to hear that. I don't have any experience working on the transmissions.
@donberry3566
@donberry3566 6 жыл бұрын
me too
@hichamchocho3280
@hichamchocho3280 4 жыл бұрын
Reguler valve destreption cat 428 serie 2
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I don't have experience with the 428.
@kapilkumarpathak6484
@kapilkumarpathak6484 3 жыл бұрын
I am writing for help with me
@kapilkumarpathak6484
@kapilkumarpathak6484 3 жыл бұрын
But I need my problem
@terryslafter
@terryslafter 2 жыл бұрын
Uhh um um uhh uhh um um um
@walasiewicz
@walasiewicz 2 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a wrench it was a socket and ratchet
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 2 жыл бұрын
The vernacular in my neck of the woods is such that all socket and ratchet assemblies are wrenches but not all wrenches are socket ratchet assemblies.
@walasiewicz
@walasiewicz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Goldenfab true dat! Socket WRENCH
@tp8030
@tp8030 10 ай бұрын
I.....um......uh
@hichamchocho3280
@hichamchocho3280 4 жыл бұрын
Join valve destreption cat 428 serie 2
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't worked on the 428b.
@kapilkumarpathak6484
@kapilkumarpathak6484 3 жыл бұрын
Don't give me help
@ricknelson3607
@ricknelson3607 3 жыл бұрын
KZfaq tip. Before starting the video think about what you want to say. Maybe jot down some bullet points you want to cover. Then tell your story, don't bounce around in your thoughts. Don't use filler words like ummm.
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@omardrakul8031
@omardrakul8031 3 жыл бұрын
Rick Nelson👎👎👎
@luilop1734
@luilop1734 2 жыл бұрын
huumm ..hummm..humm--its annoying
@Goldenfab
@Goldenfab 2 жыл бұрын
Good talk
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