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Backlash Against Mackenzie Phillips

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15 жыл бұрын

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@GoodWillPrevail
@GoodWillPrevail 4 жыл бұрын
They blame her because her father was a celebrity. People don't want to believe bad things about their precious idols. Mackenzie should have gotten complete 100% support for coming out with this abuse. Who would want to profit off of incest?
@MrMike-vw1oh
@MrMike-vw1oh 6 жыл бұрын
I'm on MacKenzie's side.......
@rossogden9920
@rossogden9920 3 жыл бұрын
Great. I'll alert the media.
@dynamopirate470
@dynamopirate470 2 жыл бұрын
@@rossogden9920 I'm on Mackenzie's side as well.
@NationalismDjazair
@NationalismDjazair Жыл бұрын
@@dynamopirate470 Alright, i will also tell the media about you. Anyone else on Mackenzie’s side?
@Ebd1990
@Ebd1990 10 ай бұрын
@@NationalismDjazairme 😀
@hollyjolly2066
@hollyjolly2066 10 ай бұрын
​@@NationalismDjazair I am, too. Are you going to still alert the media? I hope so. 😅
@Eidann63
@Eidann63 6 жыл бұрын
Lisa is acting as a true friend; she used her words carefully and tried to lend credibility to what she saw and what she believes. Good for her, supporting someone when it's a very difficult subject.
@evelynwalker9237
@evelynwalker9237 7 жыл бұрын
this was not publicity for mckenzie it is healing for her
@lanavarmatos8096
@lanavarmatos8096 6 жыл бұрын
They're blaming the victim as usual! It's really sad
@jordangate7742
@jordangate7742 3 жыл бұрын
Well, when story is sketchy af. She waits for the only person who can deny it to be dead. He never made a move on the hot sister. She wants an excuse for her drug addiction. She's getting a book deal off it... Yah, she's faking it
@lisatimmons7229
@lisatimmons7229 2 жыл бұрын
She blames herself too, so it’s not far fetched for others to blame her. She’s admitted she was a drug addict and it was a consensual relationship.
@lisakemp7352
@lisakemp7352 2 жыл бұрын
@@lisatimmons7229 It’s not consensual when a parent is the abuser
@msplacebo-246
@msplacebo-246 6 жыл бұрын
The whole family knew what was happening including Michelle, but she's a lot more interested in preserving the mama's and papa's musical legacy than in admitting the truth. Denny Dougherty's daughter came to Mackenzie's defence and confirmed that her father had told her that the incest stories were true, so even the other band members knew what was happening.
@yevettebamber4273
@yevettebamber4273 5 жыл бұрын
Yet nobody ever said a word. Everything she is saying may be completely true, but again is there any real proof? He was dead so he could not defend himself. He apparently never touched any if his other children. If this happened I cannot begin to imagine how much pain she is in, and how sick this likely also makes her physically. I just feel we should not be judging on the word of one person, when the accused is not here to defend themselves. I often wonder did she offer to take a liar detector test? If so educate me. Because there may very well be things I missed about this story.
@dynamopirate470
@dynamopirate470 2 жыл бұрын
@@yevettebamber4273 A predator doesn't have to target his other children to be a predator although it does happen. My aunt went through something very similar. She repressed it like crazy. She had seizures for years and she lost her memory by having one in a bathtub. Then when her memories came back she realized she had gone through so much sexual abuse. She was my grandfather's main target for years. This story also sounds unbelievable but it's entirely true.
@dianac2498
@dianac2498 3 жыл бұрын
Good for her for speaking out. Her step mothers are a tragedy, and there are lots like them out there who allow men to do this to their kids. I am shocked the second wife is in such denial given she was just 16 when he was with her. I’d turn things around to say, “we collectively are hurt that folks like you remain so blatantly blind to this problem, and continue to villianize the victims.”
@goldengirl67
@goldengirl67 13 жыл бұрын
I applaud Valerie and Chynna for standing by MacKenzie - I hope that eases some of her pain. MacKenzie is brave beyond words for exposing her father's bad behaviour at last. Oh, and I applaud MacKenzie most of all!
@me67226
@me67226 2 жыл бұрын
God be with you Mack.
@paular5965
@paular5965 6 жыл бұрын
Why go public? Because there is nothing more insulting and hurtful than when your abuser is being praised for being this perfect human being when he is not. They are all public figures, so it only makes sense to expose him publicly. My mom's psychologist told her to tell the truth about my father everytime someone asked her about why their marriage ended, because lying would only keep a weight on her shoulders while she still covered up the monster my dad was. And so I think it's the natural step in the healing process, to call out your monster and let the chips fall where they may.
@dynamopirate470
@dynamopirate470 2 жыл бұрын
Lisa is so real though and Mackenzie Phillips deserves love and respect. NOT backlash for coming forward with the abuse she endured.
@nicoleparry5103
@nicoleparry5103 5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad she has amazing friends and support ❤️
@melissawright1979
@melissawright1979 9 жыл бұрын
John Phillips' selfish behaviour began in (around) 1960 when he kept abandoning his wife and two children to be in folk bands. He moved them all to San Francisco, within a few months he left his wife for a 16 year old and sent his whole family packing. It was down hill from then I think.
@num1Jaysta
@num1Jaysta 8 жыл бұрын
+Melissa Wright Was Michelle that 16 year old?
@melissawright1979
@melissawright1979 8 жыл бұрын
Yep she was x
@2degucitas
@2degucitas 8 жыл бұрын
+Melissa Wright He was married before Michelle?
@melissawright1979
@melissawright1979 8 жыл бұрын
2degucitas yep. He was married to a woman called Susan and had two kids with her x
@mikeboyle7452
@mikeboyle7452 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly, totally selfish, he should have been protecting her from that world not exposing her to it!, he was too off his face on drugs too, not ideal parent material, its a shame as she wanted to be accepted by him, but he was too busy playing rock n roll star to pay any attention to his kids, kids need boundaries and discipline and love, not his fucked up kind of love tho
@tjames9698
@tjames9698 2 жыл бұрын
MP told sister Bijoux this all years ago before she even went public.
@jennifergreen8649
@jennifergreen8649 6 жыл бұрын
This has been known about for years. And it is so disgusting how any parent can take advantage of their own children and do something so horrid to them. And Mackenzie has talked about before not just the rape/incest with her father, but that he is the reason she began using drugs (I would think going through something like that would drive a person to drugs or alcohol) but what she's said is that her dad is the one that shot her up with heroin her first time. What the hell kind of parent does that? Also when she was 18, there was a party and her father had left to go to store and left her and Mick jagger and when John left, jagger locked the door and said I've been waiting for this since you were 10 years old, and then had sex with her. WTF?! Ok she may have been 18 then but who the fuck dreams of having sex with a 10 year old? Sick!
@jamalmcgrath810
@jamalmcgrath810 9 ай бұрын
Thanks. I had mentioned the same. That interviewer is up to make money and fame from this anyway. Michelle is a spoiled bitch !
@alice4779
@alice4779 3 жыл бұрын
I think she’s incredibly brave.
@LisaRichards_123
@LisaRichards_123 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone’s on McKenzie’s side that has any kind of a brain
@me67226
@me67226 2 жыл бұрын
Me too i believe her. ❤️
@myfz6
@myfz6 14 жыл бұрын
very well said to even suggest that we know anything about what has happened to her or what she will still even face is ignorant. i applaud you and i have gained a deeper appreciation and love for who you are. Many told me to keep my life quiet and the abuse quiet cause it was embarrasing. GOD Help us all. If more people would stand up and speak out it would save lives and brokeness.
@lorimiller4301
@lorimiller4301 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna tell as many times as I was told not too.
@marcierenee15
@marcierenee15 6 жыл бұрын
INTERESTING that Michelle Phillips played Valerie's mother on 90210....and Val shot her own father because he was having sex with her and when the truth came out the scenes with Michelle were VERY powerful....
@W81Researcher
@W81Researcher 3 жыл бұрын
Before that she was Nicolette Sheridan's mother on KL.
@anitakirby2964
@anitakirby2964 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't make this up...If you have not had a jerk as a father...plz don't judge...... Lived similar life with a sorry drunk father. Found him deady my brother and I after coming home from school... Liver damage ..too many pap.blue ribbon beers...Such freedom after that...but I had to forgive along time ago... God expected this of me
@pjsandcocoa
@pjsandcocoa Жыл бұрын
This is why victims don't come forward becayse they always risk getting attacked and adding to their trauma. Makes me sick!
@tjames9698
@tjames9698 2 жыл бұрын
Who would make this up??
@colemanadamson5943
@colemanadamson5943 7 жыл бұрын
I believe every word of it. Every child wants to love and honor their parents but she was betrayed by both father and mother. She must know that what happened says nothing about her but volumes about her father. I pray she becomes born again as Jesus can take away her pain and heaven will be without sorrow.
@thethrowawaythatstayed7055
@thethrowawaythatstayed7055 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my god they did not just bring on the next top model contestant!
@BCNbananas
@BCNbananas 10 ай бұрын
Go, Mackenzie! Big support and belief, of course. (September 2023).
@BoudicaJ
@BoudicaJ 2 жыл бұрын
Mackenzie’s side all the way xx
@freedomworks3976
@freedomworks3976 3 жыл бұрын
What a mess
@helenfield7363
@helenfield7363 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Mackenzie.
@MarileneSawaf
@MarileneSawaf 4 жыл бұрын
shame on the family
@marishanameyer6132
@marishanameyer6132 7 жыл бұрын
Funny how you can write a few jingles and be adored and world famous while James Maxwell Clerk discovered electricity, Howard Florey developed penecillin for human use and saved millions and millions of lives and no one knows their names.
@scottshea4681
@scottshea4681 7 жыл бұрын
It's called art.
@TheJpep2424
@TheJpep2424 7 жыл бұрын
go without electricity for a few days and penicillin when you have a virus and you'll become passionate about them fast.
@MrMoon-cg2yy
@MrMoon-cg2yy 7 жыл бұрын
Scott Shea ...then Art is highly overrated.
@savagearistocracy5978
@savagearistocracy5978 6 жыл бұрын
music speaks to the soul
@mgal6234
@mgal6234 6 жыл бұрын
J Pep Very true about those things...this culture worships celebrities like Kim Kardashian before the true heroes. Agree.
@Flaaaaanders
@Flaaaaanders 5 жыл бұрын
Dr drew is probably in on it too
@highlyfavored12
@highlyfavored12 6 жыл бұрын
I heard that she became pregnant by her father.
@laurenallen7346
@laurenallen7346 5 жыл бұрын
I heard that same thing.
@schewitt1977
@schewitt1977 4 жыл бұрын
She said her ex is the father of her son
@fallspring1033
@fallspring1033 3 жыл бұрын
She became pregnant while she was seeing someone and sleeping with her father at the same time. She didn't know who the father of her baby was and she had an abortion. That was the end of the incest.
@MJCProductions2011
@MJCProductions2011 13 жыл бұрын
@CathedralOfGhosts did i get the ages wrong?
@waynethurman2144
@waynethurman2144 2 жыл бұрын
If her dad did such then he should have gone to prison. What happened to the liberal press mantra, "It's the seriousness of the charge?". If such is true, then why sweep the alleged crime under the rug?
@Thatsswell-hr9ev
@Thatsswell-hr9ev 2 жыл бұрын
John Phillips died in 2001 so it was too late for him to go to prison. I believe most of their family never knew about this and now that the news is out some don't want to believe that John could have done this to his daughter. I know Chynna believes her but her stepmother Michelle does not. They're divided.
@waynethurman2144
@waynethurman2144 2 жыл бұрын
Whether it happened or not I would surmise that the stepmother would not want to believe such. Much more serious a charge than Anita Hill's, yet Hill's accusations were considered a slam dunk by the leftist, ideological, biased media!
@anitakirby2964
@anitakirby2964 3 жыл бұрын
You're so beautiful Mackenzie..
@rossogden9920
@rossogden9920 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@boredweegie553
@boredweegie553 3 жыл бұрын
Is Lisa D'mato not an actress? Her last name rings a bell.
@__rm307
@__rm307 Жыл бұрын
She’s from Americans next top model!
@deamonghod
@deamonghod 10 жыл бұрын
J. Marques. My son has the same initials. I'm D. Marques. I ques Marques is an familiar name.
@sbbrackelmanns6143
@sbbrackelmanns6143 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody makes that up
@bengemeister
@bengemeister 8 жыл бұрын
Well Sxxx-if it's reality TV it has to be the truth!!
@richierichit
@richierichit 11 жыл бұрын
This Lisa D'Amato girl really shit the bed toward the end of her interview. It was like one of those trainwreck Miss USA question and answer clips that goes viral.
@mandy4favre1
@mandy4favre1 12 жыл бұрын
omg you hit it head on!
@wolfgangvonheilman6886
@wolfgangvonheilman6886 7 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I like the message about daughters shouldn't tell and just shut the fuck up because they're whores. Well, at least that's what I think the interviewer was saying. Or should I say, "some people say".
@boredweegie553
@boredweegie553 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe I sat and watched a full docu about her and the incest thing THEN another vid about her defending him...WTF? No wonder so many people thinks she's bullshitting.
@Freewarrior2
@Freewarrior2 3 жыл бұрын
Oftentimes the victim will end up defending their abusers. Plus her father was a cultural icon. It was also about preserving the legacy of The Mamas and the Papas. Her other siblings went through the same type of abuse.
@lisakemp7352
@lisakemp7352 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the exact thing abusers do to their victims! It’s very messed up
@hollyjolly2066
@hollyjolly2066 10 ай бұрын
​​@@Freewarrior2 You mean he sexually abused his other children, too? How do you know that?
@sheltiepaws1
@sheltiepaws1 13 жыл бұрын
Why go public, Because it's been an old family secret in this country for too,too long!!!!!!!!!
@AmandaHugandKiss411
@AmandaHugandKiss411 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sheltiepaws1
@sheltiepaws1 2 жыл бұрын
And, it's worse now than ever, disabled children are now their biggest target especially ones with language delays and speech delays...............We need to make harsher laws to protect these kids...
@tommytwomommy
@tommytwomommy 9 жыл бұрын
I can never trust actors fully because even when they seem truthful they are well...actors
@peterdurkin1499
@peterdurkin1499 3 жыл бұрын
And she needed to sell books!
@MJCProductions2011
@MJCProductions2011 13 жыл бұрын
let's not forget that Michelle was something like 16 when she started with John Phillips. He was something like 23. So, that he would cross the line to his teenage daughter isn't so out there for me.
@colinduckworth1317
@colinduckworth1317 6 жыл бұрын
Confused me that one....so if a bloke meets his wife and shes 23 at the time...it wouldnt be out there him fancying their daughter when she turns 23?.....thinking like that at any age about ur daughter out there....
@ryanhamilton7386
@ryanhamilton7386 6 жыл бұрын
MJCProductions2011 Michelle was 17 married at 18. At 18 that makes it legal
@greg4673
@greg4673 4 жыл бұрын
@@colinduckworth1317 You missed MJC's point. He's not talking about the act, he's referring to the mindset!
@__rm307
@__rm307 Жыл бұрын
@@greg4673 still doesn’t make sense bc he started his abuse of his daughter when she was 19, so it wasn’t about being underage.
@yevettebamber4273
@yevettebamber4273 5 жыл бұрын
I have questions. How do we know this happened? All we have is her word after he is dead and can't defend himself. I'm NOT saying she is a liar. Just how can we just take her word for it? Did she submit to a lie detector test? Did she have any proof at all? Often (not always) an abuser does not assault only one child. He had other children, and yet none of them say they ever felt like he made them feel uncomfortable like this. Again I'm not calling her a liar, just don't understand how we can make all these judgements about him with no proof.
@GoodWillPrevail
@GoodWillPrevail 4 жыл бұрын
What proof do you need? She went through years of hell and made her story public after her father was laid to rest. She is a victim. People don't find glory in sharing stories of incest. She is doing it to help others and bring healing to herself.
@AmandaHugandKiss411
@AmandaHugandKiss411 3 жыл бұрын
@@GoodWillPrevail I totally agree
@bengemeister
@bengemeister 8 жыл бұрын
Sad to say if you have no looks or talent, it is hard to convince anyone you matter.
@alishaallen3745
@alishaallen3745 9 жыл бұрын
Does anyone find it rather ironic that scandals like this usually happen after the accuser is dead? I am surprised that nobody had mentioned that John Phillips is not here to defend himself and that it is rather ironic that this all comes out after she writes a tell all book. If this happened in the 80's, why wait 20 years to announce this. She also did mention that it became consensual. At that age, SHE knew better. I don't really see her as a victim the way everyone else does.
@EmpressOfWyoming58
@EmpressOfWyoming58 9 жыл бұрын
Alisha Allen She was 19, she says, when the first thing took place and that both of them were blitzed on drugs. So, why she calls it a rape, is beyond logic. It all looks consensual. They were both adults. Why drag herself and her dead father through the mud this way? Anyone who genuinely was molested knows that if you tell certain people, it will horrify them and you will forever be viewed as damaged goods. There is nothing cathartic about telling the whole world that you were molested, when you were a child or underage teen. These two people were both over 18, so all it comes out to be is the dirty laundry of drugged out, public life. Incest is the subject of jokes. People do not look kindly on those who engage in it.
@EmpressOfWyoming58
@EmpressOfWyoming58 9 жыл бұрын
***** Where up there did I say anything even remotely like she grew up in the Brady Bunch household? I didn't. Yes, she had a hippie childhood, but her father did not molest her as a child. They entered into an affair when she was an adult and both were smashed on heroin. She cannot promote this like she was a little kid or minor teenager who did not know any better. John and his daughter both have culpability in this affair. As I mentioned up there somewhere, the Boston Marathon bomber had a crummy childhood, too, but his childhood and only being 19 when he participated in the bombing, neither excuse him from his decision to carry out the bombing.
@EmpressOfWyoming58
@EmpressOfWyoming58 9 жыл бұрын
***** I wish her well.
@lisakemp7352
@lisakemp7352 2 жыл бұрын
Any sexual relationship with a parent is not consensual
@waynethurman2144
@waynethurman2144 2 жыл бұрын
Who cares what the liberal press thinks or says!
@landrykkb
@landrykkb 13 жыл бұрын
Although the timing of those incest allegations seem rather convenient at the same time as MacKenzie`s book release was,I wouldn`t be surprised if this went on between her and her father,considering how both were psychologically damaged and bruised from drug abuse and she obviously still is.
@ThePrins777
@ThePrins777 12 жыл бұрын
Nice that she has experienced that!! Not many people have that luxery!!
@RandomPlayIist
@RandomPlayIist 5 жыл бұрын
wtf are you on about?
@sbbrackelmanns6143
@sbbrackelmanns6143 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you interview her ?
@ksr622002
@ksr622002 11 жыл бұрын
I don't believe her! She's a has been but this is a good way for her to write a book and sell it.
@robingagan6288
@robingagan6288 6 жыл бұрын
ksr622002 what makes me wonder is that she waited till he was dead
@fallspring1033
@fallspring1033 3 жыл бұрын
@@robingagan6288 Her family members convinced her at the time not to go public with it.
@robingagan6288
@robingagan6288 3 жыл бұрын
@@fallspring1033 lies
@marishanameyer6132
@marishanameyer6132 7 жыл бұрын
Drew says she may have had distortions about the relationships.
@AmandaHugandKiss411
@AmandaHugandKiss411 3 жыл бұрын
Of course he says that because it is true. Meaning she has some actual memories of it but may not remember other instances of it happening. He wasn't saying she is lying but that she may not know the full scope of what all happened to her. This is extremely common in incest survivors. It doesn't indicate that the are lying only they have black out the worst of it. Saddly this not knowing everything that happened or how often is what family(and others)use to discredit the victim.
@TheSuitgetslive
@TheSuitgetslive 7 жыл бұрын
MP has been telling exaggerated stories forever. she REALLY wants attention.
@laurenallen7346
@laurenallen7346 5 жыл бұрын
Yup-it's really gotten old. Who cares anymore? Or wasn't she on a press junket extolling her newly found "sobriety" when she was picked up at LAX for possession? How does that work? She should just shut up and try to be a decent parent to her son before it's too late. Also, her continuing roles in other shows as a "drug counselor" is kinda like having Foster Brooks as the featured speaker at AA. Enough already.
@BANKO007
@BANKO007 6 жыл бұрын
I really don't believe she is telling the truth.
@robingagan6288
@robingagan6288 6 жыл бұрын
BANKO007 I'm not sure she is either, since she waited till he was dead
@randymarsh5088
@randymarsh5088 5 жыл бұрын
She didn’t even tell her sister until 1997 . Just seems sketchy .
@AmandaHugandKiss411
@AmandaHugandKiss411 3 жыл бұрын
Well I don't believe that you're not telling the truth, doesn't feel very good does it when someone accuses you of lying. Just something to think about.
@AmandaHugandKiss411
@AmandaHugandKiss411 3 жыл бұрын
@@robingagan6288 many incest survivors don't speak up until their abuser dies. They are too afraid of what kind of repercussions they may further suffer.
@AmandaHugandKiss411
@AmandaHugandKiss411 3 жыл бұрын
@@randymarsh5088 that's because of reasons Mackenzie thought it was better not to tell her sister. This doesn't make it sound sketchy but more credible. If you don't get incest then don't come up with your own ideas of what looks credible and what doesn't.
@CathedralOfGhosts
@CathedralOfGhosts 12 жыл бұрын
So I made a mistake, whatever, big deal. I posted a one sentence response and you devoted 3 paragraphs to it. It's obvious that you consider yourself some kind of expert on all things John Phillips. However, I agree with your postings re: Scientology and don't believe for a second Mackenzie's allegations. I'm a massive JP fan, have Wolfking... on vinyl, actually BOUGHT Man on the Moon, etc. so lets move on.
@oldbutstillrocking
@oldbutstillrocking 9 жыл бұрын
who's your daddy
@randymarsh5088
@randymarsh5088 5 жыл бұрын
Never trust a word a drug fiend says . Especially when they speak ill of the dead, and just released a book on the topic . Bogus claims by a bogus has-been .
@ThePrins777
@ThePrins777 12 жыл бұрын
I wish that I was her father.....
@daby8399
@daby8399 7 жыл бұрын
she's lying
@fallspring1033
@fallspring1033 3 жыл бұрын
Read the book first and then draw your conclusions.
@adlerbr12
@adlerbr12 8 жыл бұрын
JUST LOOKING FOR ATTENTION , SHE DOES THIS KIND OF STUFF EVERY SO MANY YEARS.
@jenya-was-here
@jenya-was-here 7 жыл бұрын
You wanna source that shit claim, or nah?
@adlerbr12
@adlerbr12 7 жыл бұрын
Do our own research on Mackenzie Phillips its not to hard just google her and add how many times as she claimed this . plus i'm not going to do your research for you you lazy SOB.
@jenya-was-here
@jenya-was-here 7 жыл бұрын
I *have* researched her. Again, if you're not going to source your bullshit, don't spew it out in the first place.
@adlerbr12
@adlerbr12 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it didn't happen but I am saying that she's been pulling this ugliness out of her back pocket every so many years to gain attention that's just the way she is and PS do your own damn research and if you did do your research and found nothing you're a terrible researcher
@jenya-was-here
@jenya-was-here 7 жыл бұрын
"I'm not saying it didn't happen but I am saying that she's been pulling this ugliness out of her back pocket every so many years to gain attention" Gee, I wonder why. It's almost like she had to suffer in silence for too long, and now she wants to be a public voice for other sufferers. You know, I think you're onto something there. "PS do your own damn research and if you did do your research and found nothing you're a terrible researcher" LOL I hope you didn't pull a muscle with that reach. You are the one making this bullshit claim, so it is up to *you* to prove it; without an authoritative source, your claim is meaningless.
@stephenhargrave7922
@stephenhargrave7922 4 жыл бұрын
You people love the victim. You don't care if it is true. So long as you have this poor victim to pray for. Who cares if it was all made up to sell books and smear te music industry. You believe what you want to believe.
@rossogden9920
@rossogden9920 3 жыл бұрын
I smell bullshit. She waits until she's releasing a book, 9 years after her father died, to tell us that she had a 10 year incestuous relationship with her father, while she was in her twenties? WTF? Hard to believe that an adult married woman would have let that happen, for such a long period of time. Even harder to believe that she never told anyone about it, until years later. It's more likely that a lifetime drug addict needed money, wrote a tell all book, and decided to spice it up, and drive sales with allegations that couldn't be challenged, because John was long dead.
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