Eric, thanks for this. You really made the decision making much easier for someone new to backpacking.

I carry a ten pound four person, three plus season tent. One, I live in Wyoming, two, it has room for my wife, myself, and our two seventy plus pound dogs. Around here sixty mile winds are common and even in the summer the temperature drops down to the thirties and forties almost every night especially at 8,000 feet of elevation or above.

Different viewpoint coming back to backpacking some time away. When I started to look at tents the first thing I noticed was the internal length. Tents now seem to be shorter than they used to be (oh the good old days of Vango Force 10s..) I guess to save weight. At 193cm any tent that is listed with an internal length near my height is discarded, even solo in a 2 person tent and even more with tents with sloping sides at the ends. And now, because of you and Dan I pay more attention to the width (in inches!) to make sure it can take 2 x 25 inch pads ;) Just back from a night in my relatively cheap NatureHike Mongar 2 with a light snow fall in southern Sweden. Warmer than expected with the mesh inner and super warm with my new BA sleep pad. Great channel Eric, keep it up.

You're weight for ultralight is much higher than what I would expect. Makes me feel good about my Big Agnes.

I'm just getting into backpacking. I found a tent on Amazon called Forceatt 2 person tent , on sale, for $40. It's a double walled, windproof, waterproof 5 pound tent. So far so good. My daughter and I have used it twice now and have stayed very warm and dry. Hopefully it will continue to stay that way.

I have the Coleman sundome 2p Amazon $20 bucks. I would not use it for backpacking, I got it for my daughter to test the waters in tent camping. I now know that she likes camping it’s time to upgrade her tent. I also had to tape the seams and sprayed the outside with the scotchgard tent spry

Thank you Eric Handsome for spoon feeding us.

Sort-of newish viewer but I’ve been binging quite a bit and I love what you’re doing! So much good quality, helpful content. Pertaining to this video and your inclusion of Coleman as a backpacking tent option: 1: I don’t see many ppl mentioning Coleman but obviously their backpacking equipment has been sparse and largely existed when things were still bulky and heavy by today’s standards. The different and scattered variations of the Peak1 line. So I totally get why it’s not mentioned more. But as a lover of camping in general, it’s almost a genetic trait that I love Coleman gear, so I do appreciate your mention. It’s cheap $ typically and if you just need to make it happen THIS weekend, from scratch, Coleman is arguably the best option. With backpacking, not so much. Which brings me to 2: Now, I’m not a content creator at all, only a viewer and to that end, nothing is up to me. BUT, I think it would very cool and insightful if you did a “backpacking with Coleman” type of video. The pros and (more obvious) cons of it but also the fun that can be had with their gear and the quality for the price. Maybe something that includes and compares any of the now older Hooligan (Boy Scout) tents, the current Peak1 line of tents, the older line of Peak1 tents (ex: Aries 2p) and the current Sundome 2p tents. Maybe even a step further with the past and current backpacking gear options from Coleman; Peak1 cookpot set, pocket stove etc. Just my thoughts. Would be cool. Also, the Walmart info is incorrect. The sundome 2p as shown, is actually 6.6 lbs in bag and I’ve got it down to 5.5lbs without the carry bag and included doormat. 3.7 lbs after trading out the fiberglass poles for a set of “replacement” aluminum poles with open ends from any 7’x5’ tent with an X pole pattern. So basically a really durable tent for super cheap and even at 5.5lbs, it’s pack size without the bag is well worth shaving 2lbs off from something else in your pack. We may never meet but if we did, I’d shake your hand. You seem like a cool dude. Happy Trailing 🏕️

I have the river country trekker 2 tent, and it was like $50. It weighs under 3 pounds, although it does set up with trekking poles. I imagine it isn't all that steady in a storm, but it's worked well enough for me for two summers now :) I do dream of owning a tent that has big side doors instead of weirdly small front ones with a pole in the middle, though

That's great advice regarding a 2 person tent for one person and their gear. I used to have the MEC Camper 2 and loved the space but it was roughly 5lbs. I recently bought the MSR Freelite 1 and while I love the tent, I am having trouble adjusting to the lack of room for me and the gear I like close at hand.

I absolutely love the Marmot Tungsten 2! it is a bit heavy and i usually pack my Big agnes fly creek for backpacking but take the tungsten in the canoe or on the 4wheeler. great tent.

I think the Durston X-mid is about the best value for an ultralight tent. It is just around 300 dollars for a two pound tent, and there are no bulky tent poles to cart around since it is a trekking pole tent. Absolutely love it!

Excellent!!! Thank you. Great information about choosing the correct tent for various adventures

When I got back into hiking, I borrowed a tent from a friend Then, aftet a lot of looking around, I bought an MSR hubba hubba (2P), which I love. I've looked at lighter weight replacements, but they're either much more expensive, much smaller or much colder due to more mesh.

I'm glad I chose the nearly 5lbs version of the Marmot 2P. My latest video on my channel shows it near the end. Got it on sale at REI for $156.00

That first Tungsten looks like it might be good for late season camping. With the nylon that goes halfway up the wall instead of all mesh and the heavier outer. It's obviously not a "proper" 4th season tent, but crazy Canadians would probably take it out in winter anyway 😉😂 I went out kast year in February in a NF Stormbreak with -21C temp overnight. I lived to tell the tale. Sharing a 2p with another warm body would be more comfortable probably.

Thank you for guiding us bro ❤️✌️

Hey Eric, show all your Aussie subscribers some love and review a Mont Moondance OR One Planet Goondie tent 🙏🏻 While not overly light, these things are built to last! Keep it up buddy 👏🏼

You are into your job for a long time, and your camera work, delivery and contents are actually good. Guess algorithm tramples you hard. As avid backpacker i've just bought myself a hilleberg unna, after getting into situations not entirely unsimilar to yours in sweden, using trash like big agnes and nemo, and never looked back Marmot problem is packed size. Limelight is huuuuge, tugsten is just big. Ferrino, vango, vaude, terra nova, helsport, fjalraven make way smaller 3.5-4 season tents.

Well said Eric. I like the way that you have done this and I may well crib some of your advice the next time I am teaching a session on tents over here in the UK I just need to convert lbs into kilos.

I grabbed a luxe hexpeak teepee tent I use or take everywhere. I started off with a bushcraft usa tarp...... good miserable times but I learned alot lol

I had a little chuckle with the 3-person tent discussion.. When you're a couple and you possibly want a little baby, you probably going to need that extra space.. Mmm, a 6person tent and probably a double (stacked) inflatable matras will do then!😜😄😜😄😜😄😜

It's definitely a trade off between weight, strength, space and cost. I tend to go for 3lbs and strong, then either suck it up on the space (bivi tent) or cost ($600+). I bought a Lanshan 2 for the summer, to have fun with, and the grim weather just meant it was unusable: not its fault!

Decathlon do a great range of affordable gear, including reasonably lightweight 2P tents for about 3-4 lbs. The quality is really good for the price.

Great video, thanks for sharing!

I love the plywood table man love the videos my girlfriend and I both watch and sub

"Let's get in tents!"....... well now I HAVE to like the video Eric!! Love the video as always! Thanks for always helping us out !

Does the Tungsten UL2 still hold up compared to more "modern" tents like the Copper Spur HV UL2 or latest Hubba Hubba? Deciding between these 3 right now, with the Copper Spur and Tungsten being about the same price right now.

What about 3+ season tents, do those make any sense?

Thanx for another great video. How did you like backpacking in Sweden.. I mean except for the storm. :) I have a 2p tent for me and my dog. Wiuld really need a 3p if I hade somine els with me as he is a bigger dog at 50kg. I am bot sure, have you done a video about hiking with dogs? Would be interesting. I have serious thought as my dog suddenly refuses dry food.. makes it a little more difficult if he doesn’t. Planning to walk the Kings trail (Kungsleden, about 400km) together with him in 1-2 years so trining for that now.

is a hubba 1 person or a cloud up 2 more wind resistant than your ultralight tent 2 lbs?

I’ve heard about a tent or maybe a bivvy that takes your hiking poles instead of tent poles? Any suggestions? Thankyou, great content, learning a lot.

Is there a tent with the more robust mid grade bathtub and the lightweight fly cover that would save a little weight?

Thanks for this Eric. What's the 3P you use that you mentioned?

Is the Black Bean still open? I liked that place for lunch.

I would add a word of caution re: many cheap so-called backpacking tents.. Walmart's store brand, Stansport etc as they are so prone to dangerously failing in mild wind, leak horrifically etc. So be sure and TRY the tent out at home before your trip, really spray it down with hose/sprinkler etc. and give a strong "tug" on every line and pole to make sure it won't collapse or tear in wind etc. Don't let a tent failure ruin your trip, let alone put you and anyone relying on the tent, in danger.

I get the logic behind recommending a cheap tent since you might not even like backpacking so it’s not that much of a loss if that is the case. That said I also think that having a big heavy tent and cheaper heavy gear can contribute to trail misery that might lead to not liking backpacking and quiting on it when you might not feel that way if your pack weren’t overloaded. The middle of the road 3.5lb tent is still relatively affordable and will be a better experience plus if you end up hating backpacking anyway the better tent holds a higher resale value. That Coleman tent is basically a throw away item. There are some other brands of tent made in China like paria or hyke and byke for example that have really light weight tents for incredibly low prices so they could be an option but the resale of these is also very low and you could end up with some quality control issues. When I go for something I dive all the way in so for me it makes more sense to just buy once instead of buying cheap stuff first only to have to replace it shortly after. Obviously not everyone is like me but I still think trying to get something that packs well and is at least light-ish is the way to go for tents.

What about trekking pole tent are they any good and which brands are any good because that's what I'm looking at purchasing trekking pole tent because I've already got a regular tents that uses aluminum tent poles

Any recommendations for a 2P tent that would accommodate me, my wife and our 35 lb Aussie? Worried about his nails…

What kind of dog is that ? Im looking for one like that 😊

Where in Sweden did you hike when your tent broke?

Thanks for the intense jokes :-). Have you considered hammocks for backpacking?

Why sleep in a light weight tent on a mountain in Sweden. Go Hilleberg, Nordisk or likewise or go home 😐 I would never dare to do that. Swedish mountains are really unpredictable. I was in a rain storm in Abisko the other week, my Marmot Tungsten or X-mid would have blown away or got broken but Nordisk Oppland made it.

lost me at the Coleman tent..

Most Coleman tents are not waterproof recommending one can cause somebody to get wet leading to hypothermia.

Y’all couldn’t buy the $60 tent for the video? Smh

First trip? If low mosquito pressure, an 8x10' Blue tarp from Home Depot is $12. It's 21oz and won't leak. People literally cover their boats and motorcycles with them in hurricanes. That'll be your baseline. From then on, never buy a tent that weighs more than that Blue-tarp.

Just wondering if you ever hiked Humphreys peak? Me and my kid are going to hike it next summer. I hear you have to be weary of storms up there. And when a storm does occur you have to get below the tree line asap.

Quick mote: The UL (green) Tungsten's fly is sil-polyester not nylon. Not sure about the regular "mid-grade" version's fly. Probably nylon. Funny how the dog lays down on the UL tent's fly while Eric is talking about possibly keeping dogs out off the UL version. I ❤️ dogs!