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That was actually the way the guy I bought my first house from told me to do it back in 1983.

This is the way I do it. I use a small hose from the bucket to the skimmer, being disabled, so I can let the D.E. bucket water to be fed a little at a time. I used to sprinkle the DE water into skimmer very slowly holding the bucket. I noticed at one point some of the DE bucket water going back into the pool. So now I just prime the little hose by sticking the end into the skimmer hole with my hand wrapped around it. There's my prime, now the bucket water is going in as much as I want without back washing into the pool. For every one pound of DE I use 5 gallons of water. I think this may help coat the filter more evenly. It used to ask be at the bottom of the filter pump. Not anymore. Have an awesome day all! God Bless! ❤

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Outstanding easy to understand video. Thank you very much Kenny. You are the man !!

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Wow. Must be a "Kathy" issue! LOL I had the exact same experience. I have not reached the success level yet, but totally agree. The videos are great! On my way to backwash! Thanks for the great videos Pool School.

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@Joe Kinchicken I'm totally with you.

​@@PoolSchooler Hi Pool School and Joe Kinchicken. Serious question regarding your hesitation with DE vs Cartridge. I had an above ground pool many years ago as kid (35 years ago)with a Hayward DE filter. Water always seemed very clear but I didn't have any reference to compare to. Now I'm looking at a pool for my family and retailer offered my choice of sand, cartridge or DE, with no price difference. She stated that sand can last 5 to 7 seasons. A clarifier can be added to clump small particles and allow sand filter to trap them. It requires the least maintenance. It filters down to 20 to 40 microns She stated that cartridges usually last 1 season and there is some effort to remove top to flush and clean cartridge. A clarifier can be added to clump small particles and allow cartridge to trap them, like you would with the sand filter. It requires a medium amount of maintenance where you remove the top, and just spray it off with a hose. It also uses the least amount of water, as it doesn't require backflushing like sand or DE. It filters down to 10 - 15 microns Simialr to the above two, a DE filter need maintenance when pressure increases indicating resistance. Bumping process with handle seems simple to me and I don't recall her stating how long the DE lasts but got some insight from this video. There was no need for clarifier as the filter is supposed to go down to 5 microns and possibly as low as 2 microns. It requires the highest amount of maintenance and I got a refresh of this watching this video. Water is very inexpensive where I live (my town borders on one of the Great Lakes) and she mentioned that DE pump uses the least amount of power to achieve the same water clarity. If I have no hesitation with bumping and backflushing and the technical aptitude to do it, would you still recommend the cartridge vs DE and if so, why?

@@tedk9144 I think in your case it's just a matter of personal preference. When you talk about measures of particles in microns it's actually getting down to splitting hairs in my opinion. All three have advantages and disadvantages, in my experience I have found the cartridge filters to be the ones I prefer over the sand and DE. But really if you like the DE filter then that's fine. It's your pool and your choice and you seem to have done your homework and made an informed decision for what you want.

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In this case the label does give guidance but many times the label has worn off or peeled off

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Oh wow! Frankie, thanks for that bit of information. I was not aware of that risk. Thankfully I only have two clients who have DE filters but I will for sure start wearing one. Yet another reason to not have a DE filter. Good information, thanks for commenting.

*silicosis 😂 scaring of the lungs. Had me really curious about how DE could cause curvature of the spine 🤓🤔🧐🥸🥰

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Sounds like you really worked a lot to get your pool clean and clear. Usually I'd say that you may have a torn grid or manifold but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Is it possible you're adding too much DE? For that size filter I'd suggest no more than 4 lbs of de when you recharge. Or (and I'd really consider this one), your grids (even tho they are new they had to do so much work filtering out all that gunk they may be super dirty and you may need to clean them). I'm not sure why you used muriatic acid but you said they were compromised, so I'm thinking you problem may be that your grids, albeit new, are shot because of all the gunk AND using muriatic acid to clean them, you may have compromised the fabric so much that they are not permeable enough and thus create too much pressure. You may have to replace them again (sorry to say). In the future you should only need to use a regular hose nozzle to clean the grids. I really believe the grid fabric was made less permeable by the acid and all the gunk. Try replacing them and see what happens., Also, it's possible something went awry when the new grids were installed and everything put back together. You may want to make sure your return flow valves are open fully so as to allow unhindered flow from the filter back to the pool. Lastly, its possible that with all the gunk your filter had to filter you may have a clogged line somewhere in the return from the filter to the pool that may be causing it. That's about all I can think of. Let me know what you discover. OH, and my thought about what you originally had to deal with

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I would recommend high-speed at least 3500 to 3800 rpm. Typically you’d want it around the same speed that it turns to keep the suction side vacuum going if you have one.

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Jackie Montado I would suggest fixing it right by digging up that area and fixing the pipe. It’ll be better in the long run. And I think it’s worth the cost. Some places it totally ok to save $$$ but some things are worth the cost of fixing right. This would be one of them.

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Hi Dan. I'm glad you liked the video and that it was helpful. Regarding your question. Back in the 80's I was taught by the guy I bought my first house from in Southern California to mix the DE with water before adding it to the skimmer. However since I started servicing pools professionally (starting in 1994) all the guy I worked for never had me mix it with water. Just pour it directly into the skimmer WHILE THE PUMP MOTOR WAS RUNNING. I've been doing it that way ever since and have had no problem with it not coating the grids good enough. So all that to say, you should just be able to put the DE directly into the skimmer (take the basket out first-makes it go down better) with the pump motor running.

Hi, I am a retired pool professional of over 30 years. And technically yes the instructions do say mix with water, but very few people do that. I would agree with everything in this video except I always kept the basket in the skimmer while adding D.E. because it helps break up any clumping that might occur.

Yeah always keep the basket in while adding the DE!!! Your no pro sorry. And by the way I don't recommend breathing the DE in, its never good to introduce foreign materials to your body, but just for your viewers info, DE is simply crushed up sea shells, lots of calcium and small amounts of other minerals but not toxic to us in small amounts. Always add chemicals upstream of the wind when possible and for a side note it's a very good non toxic safe for children and animals pesticide. Cheap as hell and works great to smother all insects. Look up how insects take on oxygen and it will explain.!!

@@soulfulelf3821 while you might be a self professed god of all things pool related, to insult the creator of this video by not insinuating ‘he’s no pro’ is pretty disrespectful. Everyone learns differently and had different teachers. Personally I thought this video was excellent and perfect for his target demographic. One wonders why you even watched the video given you apparently know it all.

@@soulfulelf3821 take a step back and realize that you are gatekeeping for pool maintenance. The basket doesn’t matter at the end of the dang day. You come across as the dale gribble of pool maintenance with a good amount of pocket sand on hand. Is it better to wipe standing up or sitting down?

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Outdoor Stuff Glad the video was helpful. If you go over on the DE buy a pound or so it’s really not that big a deal but sometimes it can restrict the water flow a little bit more which can in time create more stress on the fabric of the grids. Or might mean you’ll have to backwash it sooner.

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Sada Twinkletoes sounds like you need to replace the o’rings in the backwash valve.

Shadi Bader if you have a DE filter it has to have a backwash valve. Only cartridge filters don’t have a backwash valve. Please watch my video on types of filters.

Shadi Bader watch this video to see what type of filter you have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n96Fn9SQ1MjYmYE.html

​@Pool School I have a Waterway Plastics - CLEARWATER DE FILTER 90 - FD090. I absolutely have seen no backwash valve.

24 gearhead you might have to have the grids cleaned. Sounds like a lot of d e is imbedded in the grids. I usually have my clients grids cleaned once a year and that’s with regular backwashing.

Hi Daryl. Could you please copy and email your questions to me? My email is kennypoolschool@gmail.com. And if you could let me know if your have a pop up in floor cleaning system or not AND possibly send a picture of the two holes you have in your skimmer sump. Also if you do have a in floor pop up cleaning system does it have a dedicated pump that's separate from the filter pump? These will all help me more accurately answer your questions. Thanks so much.

My apologies Daryl. I didn't read your comment fully. So here's my thoughts: 1. You don't need to mix the DE with the water before adding it to the skimmer. I too was taught to do this and after working for several pool service companies I learned you didn't need to mix the DE with water first. Just MAKE SURE YOUR MAIN FILTER PUMP IS RUNNING when you add the DE directly to the skimmer (may be a good idea to remove the skimmer basket when you do. 2. The two openings you talk about are usually one that is the suction from your skimmer to the filter pump. The other one usually is for the floor drain. The slide cover, is not something I"m familiar with, but usually the second opening (hole) goes to the floor drain and there is usually a "diverter" (see this link for a pic of what I'm talking about: images.app.goo.gl/Tr4Ag16g2TXXpoeJ9). It can be adjusted to "divert" some of the suction from the skimmer to the floor drain to help suck out debris with a pop up system. My best guess is the flap on one of the openings is to help do the same thing. It's pretty easy to determine which opening is sucking from the main pump to the filter as it'll have all the suction. 3. You said that you noticed DE flowing back into the pool and that you have a in floor pop up cleaning system. Have you noticed the DE flowing back through the pop up heads? Do you have a separate pump/motor that provides pressure for the pop ups (separate from the main filter pump/motor)? If so what's happening is if you are running both the filter motor and the pop up system motor when you add DE, some of the DE is getting sucked into the pop up motor, and. since there is no filter on that "side" of your system the DE is blowing back into the pool. DON'T RUN THE POP UP MOTOR while adding the DE to you skimmer. ONLY RUN THE FILTER MOTOR. That should stop the DE from blowing back into the pool since ALL of it will now be going where it belongs, into the filter grids. 4. I did a series on pop up systems and replacing a pop up head. What you're describing is a pop up head that's "teeth" or. tabs that hold the head in place are either worn or cracked and the moment it gets under pressure it pops completely out. You'll need to replace that head. Here's a link to my video on doing that: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/itVjm8yWt5aXZnk.html. The filter screen you describe is notorious for getting clogged up. Another reason I'm not a fan of pop up systems. Most of the newer pop up systems don't have that screen filter anymore. You mentioned a lot of "sandy crumbs" on the floor of your pool. This is not uncommon with pop up cleaning systems. There are lots of reasons for this. But you may just want to watch my videos on pop up systems. Here's links to them. I think they'll help inform you:In floor Pop Up Cleaning Systems: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5yYaq-ZnJy6pps.html I think I've answered all your questions. Hope its been helpful.

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Hi Jessica, no it’s the same.

Locking can be important, I've known valves to pop up under pressure. If it's sticky it probably needs lubricating and possibly new o'rings. Here's a link to a video I did on that: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8p4nM2Y1dvNg2w.html It should help.

Very possible you have a torn grid or more. Check out this video and see if it helps: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gc6bpZNjv7rVnH0.html keep me posted.

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John Zavala it really depends on where the backwashed water goes. I have a couple that are actually hard plumbed into the sewer system. That always has to be done to code and based on county guidelines. I also have one that they hard plumbed PVC pipe to a drainfield of sorts. But most of them we just use a backwash hose.

@@PoolSchooler the water would go to the yard either with either option. But i was researching online to find one and a lot of reviews say theirs exploded or had pinholes. So i was just thinking i could use the same hose that the Barracuda uses.

John Zavala I guess you could, but because those are sectional they might come apart too. Also those are meant to be in the pool 24/7 so they might dry out and crack pretty easy. I know the backwash hoses do get pinholes in them, but they’re not that expensive and should last you at least a year.

Jason lim if you have a DE filter you most definitely want to recharge it with DE after backwashing it. If not you run the risk of severely damaging the grids. The explanation why is a bit lengthy so I won’t go into it here, but suffice it to say that you most certainly want to use DE to recharge your filter after backwashing it if it is a DE filter. They are not meant to work without the DE.

The purpose of the filter is to filter out small particles so you need adequate, clean amounts of filter media to do that every time you’re in the filter. So if you backwash your filter, the way I describe in this video you should recharge it fully so that it can do its job and clear up your pool. If not, you’re going to hinder the effectiveness of the filter itself. Unfortunately, that’s one of the drawbacks to having a DE filter. And if you seen my video on DE filters and why you shouldn’t have one you’ll know other reasons why I don’t care for them. I’m sure in your situation. A cartridge filter is not the most desirable one to have, but there is a product on the market that replaces sand in a sand filter with glass. It’s called Dr. Dryden‘s glass filter, Media substitute it’s more expensive than sand, but it’s guaranteed for the life of the filter, you never have to change it and it filters as good as DE without the safety hazard or mess. the studies that I’ve seen it say that it filters particles as small as 3 microns which is the same as DE. You might want to look into that for the future and get away from using DE altogether I personally think it’s a much better option again to clarify a sand filter using Dr. Dryden‘s activate glass filter, Media substitute instead of sand

shaskhim I don’t think it’s possible because once the water level gets below your skimmer it’s going to start bleeding air into your pump. Which could damage it. I have heard of some older pools that you can do that with but most people rent a submersible pump and then following whatever county or city or homeowners association guidelines they drain their pool water usually into the sewer or, the street, but I would definitely make sure that’s not against the law in your area. Or they will drain it into their yard as you suggest. But I would absolutely recommend renting a submersible pump that moves a lot of water instead of using your pool motor and pump.

@@PoolSchooler At first, thanks for your very kind and fast reply. As for the skimmer problem that you mentioned, i can close it's tab so there will be no air problem. I have 2 separated tabs for drain the pool as the input of filter (one for skimmer and the other one for pool bottom drains).

I have on occasion blood out the air in a filter when I restart it after opening the pump basket cover. However, if the plumbing of the pool equipment is sealed, and doesn’t have any leaks, most of that air will typically purge out through the return ports or if you have it a pop-up cleaning system.

You are wise to do that, and that’s one of the biggest reasons I don’t like the filters you should not have to do that just to keep your pool clean. Imagine if that DE gets into your pool because of a torn grid and then people are swimming in it. It’s just not healthy or safe for humans. Which is why I recommend people don’t get DE filters. I’ve become a big fan of sand filters using a sand substitute called Dr. Drydens activate glass filter media, watch my video on DE filters and why you shouldn’t have one and it explains it there.

Hard for me to tell without actually seeing. If its close to a pound per scoop you should be fine.

It’s important to understand the difference. A pool filter filters out dirt particles that are in the water. The vacuum is what sucks that dirt into the filter so it can be filtered. So you do need a vacuum and I would suggest the barracuda G3. It is a section side to stay in the pool vacuum and it is absolutely my favorite vacuum 98% of all my clients have one and it works great

with a DE or sand filter I always recommend backwashing them before and about a week after adding the phosphate remover. With cartridges it really depends on how long it's been since last washing. Or if the pool is really green or cloudy.

@@PoolSchooler we watched your video on black algae & did that. We cleaned the filters before we scrubbed for black algae & then added the phosphate remover (that was on Saturday) then Monday we did the back wash. It worked really good. The house is in Lake Havasu so it's really hot. As soon as it cool off we are going to drain it & srubb again. Then put in fresh water. Thank you, Kenny I love your videos

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Oh, no it should all be going out the discharge hose. Sounds like you didn't get the back wash valve fully open. If it's a bit sticky try lubing the backwash valve o/rings

Pool School thanks for the quick feedback! So my backwash valve is a bit different from your video. It is at the bottom of the filter and is just a quarter turn for open or close. So I had it open as far as it could turn. It seemed like a lot of air bubbles and some water flow in my pool jets during the process. The filter seemed to flush correctly as the water got clear and I added the new DE, all looks to be okay. I am just confused about the jets.

@@davenirchi8161 Gotcha. I'm not familiar with that type of DE filter. So I believe I could not comment accurately on what you experienced. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Nick Nolan is start by making sure your return flow back to the pool isn’t restricted in any way like maybe a valve being shut a bit. If all valves are open it may have to do with your manifold inside the filter. If it’s broken or clogged in anyway that could do it or the remote possibility of it being reassembled incorrectly could effect it too.

Typically the EC-75 is a DE filter. Unfortunately I don't have any clients who have a filter like that but if you do a KZfaq search on how to backwash an EC 75 (or 65) filter you should find something that will help you.

The only time you need to open that air release is if you need to purge out any trapped air (which will usually purge out through the return jets) or when you're opening the filter up and opening the pressure relief valve (that's what it's called) will release the suction on the top part of the filter when you remove it. To do it during backwashing the filter is simply unnecessary.

So when it comes to doing either of these things I'd recommend spending the money to have a pro do this. Water and electricity can make a deadly combination. And although it's fairly easy to do I think this is one of those things best left to a pro for safety reasons. If you don't get the power off correctly or you don't get the seal for the light just right it can lead to electric shock which is not good. This is why I haven't done a video on it.

You should always do it three times so you get rid of as much old DE as possible. then you absolutely should recharge it.

There are many online calculators to help you determine what size DE filter do you need for a pool of any size. All you have to do is enter the dimensions or the gallonage I will tell you. Just look up online DE filter calculator or type in “how big a DE filter do I need for my pool“

Do you have adequate suction and return flow? If you have the proper amount of DE in your filter (after backwashing and recharging) and the pressure's still really low (typically after backwashing and recharging your psi reads somewhere between 12 and 18 psi) perhaps you have something restriction the suction side of your pool. I'd start by checking the pump impeller to make sure it's not clogged. Watch this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z96leql4qbCmnXU.html

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It does sound like you’re grid frame is breaking apart. You should be able to replace the frames on a DE filter that if the frame itself is deteriorated to that degree chances are the filter is pretty darn old as well. My suggestion would be to replace the filter but switch to a cartridge filter instead of D.E. DE can be quite hazardous. I’ve pasted an email I got from a subscriber who works at a plant that produces DE and here’s what he had to say: “I work at the processing plant that produces that DE filter media its actually kinda cool to see where it goes and how its used but word of caution try and use a good respirator we use them at all times due to the risk of scoliosis from the silica present in the DE”.

It can be, I haven't seen any like that on DE filters. Usually the ones with the backwash valve on top are sand filters

It'd probably be a good idea to "hose" it into the ground a bit so the white powder isn't lingering. It's. yet another reason I'm not a fan of DE filters. It's not feed grade DE. Unfortunately.