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Bad Apple Explained Part 2: The Demoscene and The Lost Full Video

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Megapig9001

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@Suwawako
@Suwawako 2 жыл бұрын
Watch as the full version leaks online next week
@Megapig9001
@Megapig9001 2 жыл бұрын
We can all dream
@Akyuu2608
@Akyuu2608 Жыл бұрын
5 months later and still not
@KeiKurono90
@KeiKurono90 Жыл бұрын
​@@Megapig9001 I hope to live long enough to watch the original version. BTW, is Anira still alive? His nicovideo profile is lacking of any life.
@Suwawako
@Suwawako Жыл бұрын
@@Akyuu2608 lmao dawg it ain't coming back 💀
@AltraHapi
@AltraHapi Жыл бұрын
@@Suwawako reality is often disappoing
@guest0718
@guest0718 2 жыл бұрын
Someone should definitely bring up the lost full Bad Apple video on the Lost Media Wiki, be it either by forum thread or page. Or alternatively, we could just simply blame it on Jorge.
@BinglesP
@BinglesP Жыл бұрын
If Jorge made a video about Touhou Lost Media I would fucking explode
@mohammadfahrurrozy8082
@mohammadfahrurrozy8082 Жыл бұрын
​@@BinglesPi said some things about youtube that often impossible, but if that really happens, well i would be explode too
@trilddmitriy
@trilddmitriy 2 жыл бұрын
I've just watched part 1, and 4 hours later, I've got part 2. Wtf?!
@jermasus
@jermasus Жыл бұрын
The bad apple on r/place 2023 looked so bad ass, glad to be a part of it.
@GhtrefgFromCanada
@GhtrefgFromCanada Ай бұрын
Nice!
@Fishnberg
@Fishnberg 2 жыл бұрын
Hope one day, the full version will also be know to the public in some way..
@Ari-pi2qn
@Ari-pi2qn 2 жыл бұрын
I wish if someone at the concert took a full of video of the animated full version, Bad Apple is an iconic song in internet’s cultural history it deserve to be preserved
@3RDplayer
@3RDplayer 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, this version was on the concert. Which means someone from Alstroemeria still got it or has contact to who made it. And given how more popular and more mainstream touhou becomes as of late... (or maybe it just appears to me this way because I'm very actively partaking/lurking in all my favorite japanese creators outings). It is just a matter of time to receive the real deal instead of fancreations of this fancreation. I mean, we can hope so, right??
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 Жыл бұрын
@@3RDplayer emm
@HelloIAmAnExist
@HelloIAmAnExist Жыл бұрын
15 years?! Wow, no wonder the apple's gone bad
@HyperVanilo
@HyperVanilo Жыл бұрын
24
@taoistflyer
@taoistflyer Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video about the animation of the original version, I'd love to know how it was made. Who was involved in its creation, what software and techniques they used. What the 3D models looked like before they were made into shadow art.
@HyperVanilo
@HyperVanilo Жыл бұрын
Anira is the animator of the original black-white animation and they never mentioned the app they used
@BonnieBuggie
@BonnieBuggie Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling it’s hand-animated - most animation software you could easily access without being part of a major animation studio in 2009 was fairly poor in comparison to how smooth the video looks, especially when it comes to the physics and transitions
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD Жыл бұрын
I was just gonna comment this lol. Nearly nothing is known about the original video's production, I'm very curious about behind the scenes info on it.
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD
@DOCTOR.DEADHEAD Жыл бұрын
​@@BonnieBuggieMaybe a mix of both? The characters look to have a really solid foundation as the camera rotates and does other complex movements, plus in the shot from seeing Marisa's side to her back the stars in the background move as if they were in a 3D space. Meanwhile I can definitely see the transitions being hand-made.
@ali32bit42
@ali32bit42 11 ай бұрын
let me bring some insight.. they likely look like untextured clay models with motionless eyes and i would imagine impossible deformations on their surfaces to get the animation working which is normally bad but since we cant see their full form it doesn't matter. some 2d sprites and primitives make up other props after that. as for software.. judging by the date i think it was either 3DSMAX or an older version of maya. the rendering technique is extremely simple, make everything unshaded black and leave the background white. the rest is just cross fading.
@IkaraPopsicle
@IkaraPopsicle 2 жыл бұрын
Comment 2 because?????: I'm so glad someone finally talked about this, no one ever did and I was waiting so long for the full version to be released, watching countless mmds and flipnotes and seizure inducing recreation WIPs (yes those are real, made in nintendo DS) but now half of the dream is real, now maybe more people might look into it and or get the real version or recreate it extremely good! (Maybe not in MMD, since the models are smooth and the motion is much more smooth like the parts where everyone has already seen)
@minimi870
@minimi870 Жыл бұрын
See, I learned about Bad Apple through the r/place version.
@EndermanBoss
@EndermanBoss 2 жыл бұрын
didn't expect this! If you still plan on doing Touhou videos in the future would you mind doing a video explaining the plot of the mainline games? I've tried looking for other videos but people either poorly explain it or just sum it up in 2min.
@3RDplayer
@3RDplayer 2 жыл бұрын
Every kind of lore video is much needed tbh. Lore videos that aren't interrupted by stupid memes or shows footage on screen that does not match up to what is said would be a godsend. You know, unfiltered RAW canon. No fanon influence or memes allowed.
@bamshablam5977
@bamshablam5977 2 жыл бұрын
The Touhou wiki is your best option for some actual lore in the series tbh
@AltraHapi
@AltraHapi 2 жыл бұрын
its quite impressive how unique the idea seems to be of bad apple being black and white and how it ran with that uniqueness, either that or the demoscene is full of weebs or other songs are not as popular/im just not aware of other pieces of media often used (and im just talking about videos, because Im aware of doom) If anyone knows about other things often used I would like to know
@404waffles
@404waffles Жыл бұрын
there's not a lot of weebs in the demoscene lol
@MakotoIchinose
@MakotoIchinose 7 ай бұрын
If anything, existence of weebs are exception in demoscene, considering the strong western cultural roots (and lack of substantial demosceners from the east) Bad Apple just happens to have (literally) monotone shadow art, and easy target for demosceners to crunch it in retro hardware
@fowlernordheim5420
@fowlernordheim5420 Жыл бұрын
It's awesome to get to know about this from r/place 2023.
@azurill_sun
@azurill_sun 2 жыл бұрын
I was eating while watching when Satori popping up almost made me spit out my lunch Great work on this and shedding light on it
@alwayssupporttouhouproject6726
@alwayssupporttouhouproject6726 Жыл бұрын
WELL DONE! I had no idea this existed, it's REALLY neat, and you covered it SUPERBLY!
@YF-23_Enjoyer
@YF-23_Enjoyer Ай бұрын
ive never played touhou in my entire fucking life but I'm somehow invested in this
@Rhythm173
@Rhythm173 2 жыл бұрын
Someone was able to get koishi’s moment clearly but it’s a bit laggy a tiny tiny bit but it’s weird how they were able to get koishi clearly
@TeeV479
@TeeV479 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who was introduced through bad apple,I'm actually trying to show him a bit of what touhou is and he seems to be enjoying it. This might be me actually being able talk about touhou to people in real life.
@GunnerSiIva
@GunnerSiIva Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting subtitles. It really helps non-native English speakers (and ofc deaf ppl)
@zoomspilo6798
@zoomspilo6798 2 жыл бұрын
The moment we've all been waiting for.
@reimucantik
@reimucantik 3 ай бұрын
Oh I see? Surely I have an idea!
@Cool_kid_the_real
@Cool_kid_the_real Жыл бұрын
1:07 because everybody just likes to see it in different stuff
@diegoalexander1832
@diegoalexander1832 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for talking about such interesting curiosities of Touhou, I love your videos very much, greetings from Bolivia nwn
@shreder95ua
@shreder95ua 2 ай бұрын
as a person that created a whole video viewer in a unix console with 24 bit colors just to watch bad apple, i agree
@TS_Mind_Swept
@TS_Mind_Swept 10 ай бұрын
And now there's some AI generated recreation of it that looks like thousands of forest/fantasy scenes and it's completely crazy; biggest reason I even know about this song, actually (only saw it a few weeks ago)
@Cleocyde
@Cleocyde Жыл бұрын
now it's also animated on r/place
@theinternetuse7
@theinternetuse7 Жыл бұрын
r/beatmetoit
@alexandermeisinger9478
@alexandermeisinger9478 9 ай бұрын
OSU! did a great job in transporting the video on a 1Pixel/5minutes event r/place. I myself was busy helping some friends to keep their small Artworks, so I got attention on it late in the yin/yang phase of the video. After the event ended, I was searching what that video was , and I fell for "bad apple" even I never heard about touhou before.
@Cleocyde
@Cleocyde 9 ай бұрын
@@alexandermeisinger9478 it was 1 frame every 40 seconds, it was actually hell to do with the people we had cuz we were just not enough to do the whole thing sometimes lmao
@YuutaTogashi0707
@YuutaTogashi0707 11 ай бұрын
2:47 the concerts aren't by Alstroemeria Records, they are just featured in the 3 concerts Bad Apple!! is shown at
@IkaraPopsicle
@IkaraPopsicle 2 жыл бұрын
My heartbeat skyrocketed as I read the title.
@Sensei5am
@Sensei5am Жыл бұрын
Great video! Found this through watching r/place bad apple, YT algorithm put me on this! Thank you for educating!
@Cool_kid_the_real
@Cool_kid_the_real Жыл бұрын
1:47 Desmond can actually be more colours
@luigiadventure
@luigiadventure 2 жыл бұрын
loved it mega pig! another BANGER video
@blankblank8608
@blankblank8608 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, and now it will continue to be ported to everything. Ty.
@awkwardbirb5710
@awkwardbirb5710 2 жыл бұрын
Just like DOOM. Excellent.
@beyondrotation
@beyondrotation 2 жыл бұрын
Unexpected video!
@PGrayOfficial
@PGrayOfficial Ай бұрын
Lost media? Oh boy don’t give people ideas. You know how dedicated people on the internet are!
@noireel5977
@noireel5977 2 жыл бұрын
this is really blown my mind
@shrippie-4214
@shrippie-4214 4 ай бұрын
My favourite demo is the fluid simulation one
@csehszlovakze
@csehszlovakze Жыл бұрын
back in 2021 it was even played on a building!
@giansalt7041
@giansalt7041 Жыл бұрын
Every time l heard bad apple l hear MUDA MUDA MUDA
@YuutaTogashi0707
@YuutaTogashi0707 7 ай бұрын
I made a comment on sorani's recreation with corrections for how it should be
@Flammtoast
@Flammtoast Жыл бұрын
almost everything can play doom and bad apple
@Kai_Squared
@Kai_Squared Жыл бұрын
This guy's voice cracks though.
@Megapig9001
@Megapig9001 Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbGlbM13m8jPk5c.html
@dajustin5408
@dajustin5408 5 ай бұрын
Why does this guy sound like the "🤓" emoji
@The5element2011
@The5element2011 3 ай бұрын
Lmao
@UnchaosTable
@UnchaosTable Ай бұрын
He is 💀
@coolchannelyt
@coolchannelyt Жыл бұрын
video: bad apple explained me: l o s t v i d e o ? *c l i c k*
@FriskTemmieGoogle
@FriskTemmieGoogle Жыл бұрын
Junferno is my god.
@TRJames5914
@TRJames5914 9 ай бұрын
But you still haven't mentioned the absolutely huge impact this had on Black MIDI! As a Black MIDI creator myself, I feel like I should mention this.
@LtSerg756
@LtSerg756 Жыл бұрын
I miss 2021 now...
@Akyuu2608
@Akyuu2608 18 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nJl7lqqpua6xpHU.html The full animation can now (almost) be fully seen with new found footage You can see how inaccurate sorani's version is now
@CZghost
@CZghost Жыл бұрын
Did you mute the last part's beginning on purpose or was it because of copyright claim?
@Megapig9001
@Megapig9001 Жыл бұрын
Copyright claim
@pal181
@pal181 Жыл бұрын
Now I know
@Valery0p5
@Valery0p5 Жыл бұрын
This has so little views :/ did Lagtrain really take over in the demo scene? 😅 I wonder where the animators are most importantly...
@jasonorjoshlee7607
@jasonorjoshlee7607 Жыл бұрын
Why does this feel awfully similar... Touhou Lost Word???!!!?!
@HyperVanilo
@HyperVanilo Жыл бұрын
No, Touhou Lost Word is a fanmade game
@soulmantis4627
@soulmantis4627 2 жыл бұрын
Meh. I like the original better. The new version fucks up the perfect flow of the original.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 2 жыл бұрын
It's made with MMD. I'm sure with more time and better animators, it would look as good as it was intended.
@soulmantis4627
@soulmantis4627 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't mean the animations in my comment. What I liked about the original is how well they flowed from one scene to another, like how the apple turns into patchouli or sakuya's knife turns into flandre's wing. I don't like how in the new version they just lazily go into the window, it doesn't seem as creative as the original.
@starlii10
@starlii10 2 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on a mention of the rhythm game community, mainly Taiko no Tatsujin and osu!...
@mitchkiggins9661
@mitchkiggins9661 Жыл бұрын
the origin: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8qBqJeLxrfLc4U.html
@YuutaTogashi0707
@YuutaTogashi0707 Жыл бұрын
Still a recreation sadly
@SomberLuna
@SomberLuna Жыл бұрын
could you link us to the recreation?
@Megapig9001
@Megapig9001 Жыл бұрын
It’s in the description
@alonadedal8835
@alonadedal8835 Жыл бұрын
That version doesn't match with the original new scenes Edit: Especially the end (Exclude Utsuho reiuji)
@whoman0385
@whoman0385 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think the video is "lost" I may have it on my pc without knowing lol edit: yep I have it
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 2 жыл бұрын
You gonna put it somewhere?
@tonkobanjo
@tonkobanjo 2 жыл бұрын
only good nft
@TheZombersLMAO
@TheZombersLMAO Жыл бұрын
post
@unjustified_individual
@unjustified_individual Жыл бұрын
You should post it
@Valery0p5
@Valery0p5 Жыл бұрын
A two years old account with the greedy monkey PFP, yeah sure...
@c0baltl1ghtn1ng
@c0baltl1ghtn1ng Жыл бұрын
I'm a year late, but I do hope you still come and read these comments. The Full Version is out. Always has been. KZfaq user Fluide has it up. It's been up for 7 years now. The URL to that video is > anU0uN7KyMQ < and it is publicly listed.
@Megapig9001
@Megapig9001 Жыл бұрын
That’s not the real full version Cirno’s not in it. It’s another recreation
@YuutaTogashi0707
@YuutaTogashi0707 7 ай бұрын
It's sorani's recreation upscaled and interpolated You didn't notice it's the same? Sorani's is shown in this video
@myri_the_weirdo
@myri_the_weirdo Жыл бұрын
The waffle House has found its new host
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