You don’t choose the bpm, it chooses you.

I apologize in advance, I made this video like 8 months ago and am only posting it now. Since this video was created, I have gotten far sexier in case anyone is a bit confused.

This was a major issue I had. There's literally no videos out there about this

20 year classically trained pianist here, and double time vs 'normal' affects how you think of and count music when performing as well. And it has a lot to do with what you said: more space for writing, but also makes it easier to count out in some instances when learning / performing. A lot of Sousa marches are good examples of how counting in double time vs cut time vs 'normal' time can be counted.

I can tell you the exact reason: In fl, the quantizer on 16-machine-swing works on 70bpm , but not at 140. I know this sounds very irrelevant, especially if someone doesn't even know what I'm talking about. but its sooo incredibly powerful. when I want to make a groovy beat, i use it on every drum and percussion individually and all it takes is Ctrl+Q and adjusting one knob if the preset is loaded up. plus one extra point delay behaves differently which can obviously be changed in the delay but for a new producer who maybe doesn't know about this, it can completely cange the vibe of the song. a little bit nitpicky with that last one but ya get the idea

I wish i had someone showing me your no nonsense approach when i was starting (2004). Very good material you are offering the community. Peace

bad beats are ruining my beats lol

I usually make Trap beats in double time so I can get faster hi hats on the step sequencer and don't have to go in the piano roll, just a workflow thing tho

imo the only difference between single and double time is in the feel that the metronome gives if you let the metronome plays in the background while you're composing, you might find different rythmic ideas at single and double time

Double time because I like the feeling of space, I get claustrophobic in single time although I think my drum patterns are always more unique when working in single time but I think that's just some weird psychology thing for me

some synth presets with time-based effects and modulation may also sound different at lower or higher BPMs, this sometimes makes a difference in creating melodic compositions and chord progressions as well

I'm on team double time. The reason being, hi hats play at 1/8 value (in trap) and 1/8 dotted (in drill) as opposed to 1/16 and 1/16 dotted in single time, which makes making rolls easier as you would only really go down to 1/64 as opposed to 1/128 (an option that isn't even available in Logic, my daw)

Because I play everything on a keyboard or drum pad I like double time because I like how the metronome subdivides the 8th note when I play, just easier to stay on time.

If you hold "alt" while you stretch your midi, it will do it in "snap to grid" style by percentages.

If you record unquantized (a drum pattern for example) in 45 BPM instead of 90 BPM, the PPQ is lower and it affects where the note lands in the piano roll. This can create more of a punchy/swingy/groovy drum beat. This better emulates the midi recording of vintage drum machines like the SP-1200. I got this tip from The Daydream Sound.

i use both. Doesn’t really matter to me. Although I notice that a little swing in single time is not the same as double that amount of swing in double time,,, there is always something to add. I produce drill, trap and swing type beats in double time due to high hat placement and ease of note addition in relation to the numbered timeline. But genres like Afrobeats, Latin and basically genres that require a bass that speaks, I go with single time just because of that swing. It gives life to the beat almost immediately.

I think the only difference is how many beats per minute are played. You can create the same drum groove with both 80 BPM and 160 BPM. They will sound the same although the beat at 160 BPM will count and include everything that lands on the offbeat. Similar to how you can switch from 8th notes to 16th notes hi hat pattern in order to increase the energy all whilst keeping within the same tempo.

The "actual, technical difference" is PPQ (pulses per quarter) or PPQN (pulses per quarter note). All sequencers split time into intervals that have a set resolution. 96 PPQ is a fairly common resolution, especially for old hardware sequencers. This means each quarter note is split into 96 divisions. Even when you record "unquantized" a midi note has to fall on one of those 96 divisions. So the higher the resolution, the better a sequencer is at capturing a performance accurately. Doubling the BPM is a trick to get more resolution out of the sequencer. It's been around since the days when hardware was the only thing available. Most software has higher resolution PPQ by default or allows you to change it.

I don't know, about other people. But at one point I was like " what happens if I make a trap beat at 75 bpm?" And it felt WAY❗ better because I had more room. So I guess you were right. Thanks for your time and effort Mr Naive 🙏

One of the most helpful guys on yt, keep ut the good work man

I use a low BPM to create every beat I make 75 BPM helps me create better melodies I don’t aim for a genre really I just load up a sound and play some notes and just find the right vibe for whatever sound or sample I stumble upon and then add drums, fx, and mix it a bit but not too much that’s for the artist or engineer also working 1 on 1 with the artist while making the music really helps by speeding up your creative process or brainstorming for new ideas

I don't know when you got to 100K but congratulations on that achievement, your content does help us beatmakers

Dope thing is u can always change your BPM and adjust your beat. i normally have a tempo in my head when im starting or i just adjust it till i feel a vibe.

Single time is my friend. Some producer on YT claimed trap is produced in double time due to fast-paced hi-hat rolls often used, but then you can just press alt/option + u(FL Studio) to get same rolls in single time so I still continued producing in single time.

Was thinking this could potentially be a problem with my beats and stumbled across this video, thanks Navie D!

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I love when Kenny beats said he makes trap in 90bpm sometimes because most people don’t!

double time changes the resolution of the sequencer's swing.

This is such a great video. This is a very important but not as covered topic. Thanks for sharing. Keep up the grind 💪

Double time helps plugins buffer sounds and effects easier on fl studio

I like to create boombap influenced beats at "double time", for one, to get more play with swing as you mentioned, and two, because I like to add a nice modernish beat switch sometimes. It do be smooth. Lol Cheers, Navie!

I always go off my vibe and how bouncy I’m feeling And tap my tempo

For trap beats double time can help in fl studio, but only because you can make hat rolls in the channel rack

Wooooow the melody of your trap beat is pure fire..reminds me prod kill from Atl

great vid, NAV! You the man.

I think about half / double time when it comes to delay throws

When it comes to live performance, with an MPC/vocals/guitar/whatnot, double time & single time definitely make a difference. There's a great Adam Neely video that explains why. It's one of the videos where he explores the fastest and slowest music humanly possible

I have always wondered how double time and single time affect how a note is articulated especially for a one shot like our drums. Just looking at the settings on the generic sampler on FL studio would suggest that playing around with the BPM in such a manner might affect how one shots are articulated. The suggestion that you can feel a difference in the beat may come from that fact that drums in double time are more punchy as they are essentially being played for a shorter amount of time, while at single time the drums play a little longer so there is less punch.

I make beats in Reaper I use normal time. Because their grid can go to 1/512 with swing, dotted or triplet. Most daws stop at 1/64. If I make beats on mpc I use double time to get higher resolution. If I want swing there I use 1/8 swing which is essentially 1/16 swing. Bpms are just for the grid makes no difference to the sound to me

you are my teacher im ready to learn and apply your teaching

you composed the music for My friend Pedro? nice, that game is pretty cool. That was an odd midi trick you did there in FL select all notes but you dragged it like how you drag WAV files, I am uncertain if I can do that in my DAW reaper but I am guessing i can, probably just one of the million hidden options lol. Everything is hiding in reaper.

I think BPM doesn’t affect the construction of a beat because not everyone works at the same speed or carry the same experience to cook up on the spot and if you choose BPM over what you want the sounds to feel like then it’s always finna be well structured but it won’t really stand out from other pieces and it can be a big motivational killer

i never produced any higher than 120, i mostly produce halftime including trap but i mostly do lofi and ballads so its a habit of me already

If the performance is quantized virtually identical , however, if not quantized then you CAN 'feel' the difference.. BUT It depends. It has more to do with how MIDI samplers work than tempo. Doubletime was used in the past to increase the PPQn on less accurate sequencers. If you were placing notes in with/without quantize one way to get more PPQN (pulses per quarter note) was to double the tempo. This way without quantize on the sampler was more accurate at placing the notes where the player placed them versus quantizing them to the nearest pulse per quarter note. so long story short, you can 'feel' it but it depends on what you're using. So technically an unquantized performance at 96ppqn will sound different than one at 960ppqn. Each DAW has a different PPQ to my knowledge so it really depends hope this helps

Please you are my favorite But can you please go over this again Using Kicks Snare and Hats to demonstrate the Bar How the BPM must control the Bars in the channel rack ❤❤

Yea you are right . I try to think about the bpm. Bpm changes the rythem of the beat you was making

me: *laughs in 1044 bpm*

This is a solid vid Navie, thank you 👊🏽

I've noticed that the easiest to rap on is between 80 - 110. With 120 - 140, it's a lot faster and requires less lyrics.

THANK YOU……… these type beat makers need to see this

on an mpc you can make your high hat rolls faster via the ta tempo button if the beat is in double time. My assumption id the trap hat was developed via this mpc specific funtion. As a result trap, a genre born out of the mpc workflow, naturally defaults to double time.

Thanks for the video. As always those are gems. If I may however I think that there is a fundamental issue with he premises of this theory. The fact that we start with saying what genre we need to pick to then move on to the BPM is an approach that certainly makes sense however it is also a way to kill creativity before you even start. By that I mean that you don’t want to position yourself into a box as it will also influence the choice of sounds. If you want to create something completely new and push the envelope the BPM should come only after. Open to hear people thought on this. Respectfully, H

Great info

Saving this to view later cos I’m at work 🙏🏽

I don't know what these other dudes in the comment are talking about but nice video. 💯

did not expect my friend pedro in this. what are the odds hahahah

Thanks Navie. I appreciate you

truth be told, BPM doesn't really matter 80 BPM or 160 BPM if you create the beat around these bpm's you can get the same result you had in mind ... it has never been a matter of speeding up the project. it is more of how quick your loop goes around.

NAVIE WHY YOU LOOK SO CALM WHEN YOU SHOW YOUR EXAMPLE BEAT, THOSE BEATS ARE FREAKIN GOODS LOL

Another difference between single and double timing is the note repeat function, imagine 16th note hi hat in both cases

I feel like the only difference is how the music is counted. 70bpm IS in a way 140bpm

That stretching technique so simple but it just helped my beats big time. You definitely improved my workflow with this one, that’s to be expected.

True story bro ✅

Thank u so much, I have always searched about this topic but never found any until now. I make future bass songs around 70 bpm and I always wonder why do they make in double bpm which is 140 bpm. But I never really found any differences in songs. I always had doubts in myself that Im doing it wrong. But now I know it's all the same. Thank u once again.

i took a survey of top producers, who all agreed that setting up your track for double time, and then setting it back to single time, before you wrote your track will release “vibe molecules” into your studio, which will digitally rearrange the bits in your audio file for maximum vibe alignment. unfortunately this alignment of digital bits is only transferable to vinyl.

Good stuff, though I thought you were going to talk about like... the use of odd numbers (like ending in a 1 or a 7), is that still something that can be bad or does it not really matter as long I stay in the genre's bpm range?

No one really explains this thank you a sound selection video would be great too

there is a whole gnre based on 140bpm (uk dubstep)

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What about lofi trap whats is the best BPM for lofi trap

Thanks! Just fixed some beats 💎🔥👌🏽

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I was literally just thinking of this yesterday! Thanks!

Where do you place the kicks and snares in double time ? Do you make your beats in 4 bar pattern’s instead of 2?

Thank God you posted this I've been so messed up on my bpms love this

hyperpop can definitely be higher than 150-170 bpm

Sequencers also might respond to half/ doubling

You really read my problems out loud

Don’t base your music off a certain bpm .. every song / beat has there own feel.. this why music sucks now everything is the same tempo and key

Very helpful

Maybe You could do a video about using melody loops and how it affects when You changing their tempo ?

This was a dope vid. Just feels different

Great video and channel

Y’all, just hum a melody you like and tap that tempo to it and go. Quit overthinking it. No one gives a shit what bpm your song is.

Hey Navie, could you do a video on Trance beats?

It’s crazy I’m seeing this because I’m just realizing this lol

140 all day baby ! WAKE UP in the morning feeling like P Diddy / grab my glasses I’m out the door about ta hit the city/ before I leave brush my teeth with a bottle of Jack cuz I leave for the night I ain’t coming back

BPM - You're right.

discovered your channel a few weeks ago, learned so much from your videos already. thank you so much, so appreciated

Nice video Navie

7:10 dont get this point. if you change the grid and zoom in it has the exact same effect. if you use the step sequencer in fl to put in notes however you could do faster hatrolls without going into the piano roll

i use double time if i make trap beats on my beatstep pro. dont know if there is any other way of doing it.

Thank you, great content 👍

Single Time doesnt use double the space in the pattern and in the piano role

Can you do a video on organized noise from outkast? And one on mannie fresh

What about funk music? I wanna make a early Prince type beat.

🔥🔥very useful thank you

Great video!!

Im a beginner and someone please tell me why my beat sounds like a slow R&B beat when the BPM is 130. I forgot to change it when I first made the beat. I was trying to make a hip hop beat at about 80 to 90 BPM. How can I make the necessary changes to make the beat sound a little faster but lower the BPM at the same time.