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@Mikeyvellii2 жыл бұрын
You don’t choose the bpm, it chooses you.
@madewavy2 жыл бұрын
Someone who gets it
@grandfatherrecords2 жыл бұрын
For real though
@JayStudda2 жыл бұрын
That's a FACT
@Severiano_222 жыл бұрын
yeah bro
@hylo_sa5312 жыл бұрын
Amen
@NavieD2 жыл бұрын
I apologize in advance, I made this video like 8 months ago and am only posting it now. Since this video was created, I have gotten far sexier in case anyone is a bit confused.
@salamiwallnut4 ай бұрын
Lol
@mbonihankuyejimmypeter54902 ай бұрын
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@Juline12212 жыл бұрын
This was a major issue I had. There's literally no videos out there about this
@drakehasbula55572 жыл бұрын
facts
@qroovyy_2 жыл бұрын
bro agreed
@klaytonvonkluge49052 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@vag4lvevo222 жыл бұрын
Same bro. Like how come known KZfaq music producers doesn’t make a video about this. 🤷♂️🤦♂️👍
@kengbeats65862 жыл бұрын
bro it dont matter there no rules in this shit do what you want you thinking 2 much
@pyrogriffin2 жыл бұрын
20 year classically trained pianist here, and double time vs 'normal' affects how you think of and count music when performing as well. And it has a lot to do with what you said: more space for writing, but also makes it easier to count out in some instances when learning / performing. A lot of Sousa marches are good examples of how counting in double time vs cut time vs 'normal' time can be counted.
@ese4262 жыл бұрын
You got some samples g?
@shadowrealmsouljah2 жыл бұрын
@@ese426 brooo 😭💀
@pyrogriffin2 жыл бұрын
@@ese426 "The Stars And Stripes Forever" is probably the most popular example, but it's easier to understand if you are looking at the sheet music along with listening.
@JayStudda2 жыл бұрын
@@pyrogriffin he meant like samples of you playing the piano that we could chop up in a DAW and make some beats
@gracefolkes75032 жыл бұрын
@@ese426 These are the necessary questionslol
@TRVladdy2 жыл бұрын
I can tell you the exact reason: In fl, the quantizer on 16-machine-swing works on 70bpm , but not at 140. I know this sounds very irrelevant, especially if someone doesn't even know what I'm talking about. but its sooo incredibly powerful. when I want to make a groovy beat, i use it on every drum and percussion individually and all it takes is Ctrl+Q and adjusting one knob if the preset is loaded up. plus one extra point delay behaves differently which can obviously be changed in the delay but for a new producer who maybe doesn't know about this, it can completely cange the vibe of the song. a little bit nitpicky with that last one but ya get the idea
@DxeNvtsukii2 жыл бұрын
i appreciate this info, shitlike this shouldnt be swept under da rug
@gl0ckfather2 жыл бұрын
nah this makes sense because theoretically speaking sound is a medium and if we were to quantize something moving slow it would be easier to pick up wheras something fast wouldnt be so easy to quantize because technically soeaking each individual sound you lay out at a higher bpm technically comes out faster at least this is my theory id rather have this out there than in but yk food for thought and this goes along with the delay point , miniscule delay may seem insignificant but when it repeats throughout a song you’d definitely hear it when put side by side or rather ear to ear , good looks tho i really appreciate this info
@slbx19482 жыл бұрын
My beats improved drastically when I switched from 4/4 or 8/4 to 8/1 or 16/1. Never seen a tutorial dealing with this issue.
@Devezin2 жыл бұрын
I don’t use fl but see if they have mpc 1/8 swing. In double time it’s the same as 1/16 swing
@brycem90632 жыл бұрын
@@slbx1948 What? Can you give an example of this?
@soultabs Жыл бұрын
I wish i had someone showing me your no nonsense approach when i was starting (2004). Very good material you are offering the community. Peace
@superbtruck2 жыл бұрын
bad beats are ruining my beats lol
@jamarskeete28512 жыл бұрын
I usually make Trap beats in double time so I can get faster hi hats on the step sequencer and don't have to go in the piano roll, just a workflow thing tho
@sussybaka77384 ай бұрын
Yeah me too
@5Marchan2 жыл бұрын
imo the only difference between single and double time is in the feel that the metronome gives if you let the metronome plays in the background while you're composing, you might find different rythmic ideas at single and double time
@NavieD2 жыл бұрын
I see your point, of it sparking different ideas. My point in the video was that technically speaking, whatever you create in double time can be created in single time.
@lvm30342 жыл бұрын
Agreed sometimes the hi hat in double time can be too much. The pop range of 130 creates the best bounce and best sounding hi hats 👌
@maowcat15872 жыл бұрын
You can replicate the change in metronome in some DAWs by changing the time signature from x/4 to x/8. From what I've heard FL Studio DOES NOT do this, but my DAW (Reaper) does. As an aside, you can work in some whacky time signatures that will also give you a unique feel. I recently made a beat that felt in 4/4 time, but the DAW was set at 17/8. I could place notes on the grid within that time signature and get a natural swing by virtue of how that grid aligns mathematically with 4/4. 4 bars of 17/8 gets you 17 bars of 4/4 (4/8), which gets you some uncommon loops.
@chosenonebeats2 жыл бұрын
Or you can just change the timing of the metronome
@lvm30342 жыл бұрын
@@brainderp808 160 hihat 2 step pattern is ok to me personally but it’s subjective I suppose. I prefer 120-150 with a 2 step. Any higher I prefer either unique hihats or a 4 step
@ekut192211 ай бұрын
Double time because I like the feeling of space, I get claustrophobic in single time although I think my drum patterns are always more unique when working in single time but I think that's just some weird psychology thing for me
@3rdARKnight10 ай бұрын
Same here
@CONSCIENTENOBEAT2 жыл бұрын
some synth presets with time-based effects and modulation may also sound different at lower or higher BPMs, this sometimes makes a difference in creating melodic compositions and chord progressions as well
@mezt99182 жыл бұрын
I'm on team double time. The reason being, hi hats play at 1/8 value (in trap) and 1/8 dotted (in drill) as opposed to 1/16 and 1/16 dotted in single time, which makes making rolls easier as you would only really go down to 1/64 as opposed to 1/128 (an option that isn't even available in Logic, my daw)
@grb20152 жыл бұрын
same here same reason
@giancarlo4182 жыл бұрын
Same
@jungalistix2 жыл бұрын
Came here to post this :D
@danatello848911 ай бұрын
This makes sense. Now I know why so many trap beats are double time. I use FL & yeah it only goes to 1/6 step and not 1/8 step (128th).
@eshaan39778 ай бұрын
so if you make boom bap stuff, do you choose bpms like 160,180, or if you go west coast, do you choose 200,210?
@puffyjmackdaddy2 жыл бұрын
Because I play everything on a keyboard or drum pad I like double time because I like how the metronome subdivides the 8th note when I play, just easier to stay on time.
@jameswhite47092 жыл бұрын
If you hold "alt" while you stretch your midi, it will do it in "snap to grid" style by percentages.
@seanarooni2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@isomatic2 жыл бұрын
If you record unquantized (a drum pattern for example) in 45 BPM instead of 90 BPM, the PPQ is lower and it affects where the note lands in the piano roll. This can create more of a punchy/swingy/groovy drum beat. This better emulates the midi recording of vintage drum machines like the SP-1200. I got this tip from The Daydream Sound.
@hayatefaith42732 жыл бұрын
That's gonna completely depend on the maschine you're using though right? Because the mpc live has 960 ppq and halving that would make it bigger I think. And I'm pretty sure the sp is 24 ppq aka 1/64th triplets
@hayatefaith42732 жыл бұрын
I could be all wrong which would be embarrassing and funny
@isomatic2 жыл бұрын
@@hayatefaith4273 I tried it in the MPC Live II and noticed a difference. The Daydream Sound demonstrated it on his MPC 2000 as well. It theoretically should work like that in any DAW (MPC Live is a DAW too). Test it out and see if you can hear the difference.
@me3rdmadness2312 жыл бұрын
i use both. Doesn’t really matter to me. Although I notice that a little swing in single time is not the same as double that amount of swing in double time,,, there is always something to add. I produce drill, trap and swing type beats in double time due to high hat placement and ease of note addition in relation to the numbered timeline. But genres like Afrobeats, Latin and basically genres that require a bass that speaks, I go with single time just because of that swing. It gives life to the beat almost immediately.
@ScumCoreSounds2 жыл бұрын
I think the only difference is how many beats per minute are played. You can create the same drum groove with both 80 BPM and 160 BPM. They will sound the same although the beat at 160 BPM will count and include everything that lands on the offbeat. Similar to how you can switch from 8th notes to 16th notes hi hat pattern in order to increase the energy all whilst keeping within the same tempo.
@subtracktion2 жыл бұрын
The "actual, technical difference" is PPQ (pulses per quarter) or PPQN (pulses per quarter note). All sequencers split time into intervals that have a set resolution. 96 PPQ is a fairly common resolution, especially for old hardware sequencers. This means each quarter note is split into 96 divisions. Even when you record "unquantized" a midi note has to fall on one of those 96 divisions. So the higher the resolution, the better a sequencer is at capturing a performance accurately. Doubling the BPM is a trick to get more resolution out of the sequencer. It's been around since the days when hardware was the only thing available. Most software has higher resolution PPQ by default or allows you to change it.
@Mehlo12122 жыл бұрын
is trippling okay? Ive heard prodstalk abt tripplingit but sounds crazy
@evsanger2 жыл бұрын
This is the real sauce right here
@subtracktion2 жыл бұрын
@@Mehlo1212 Theoretically, multiplying the tempo will give you continuously higher PPQ resolution. Although it's probably easier to just change the MIDI clock setting (if possible) rather than programming at a super fast BPM. But is it necessary? A lot of DAWs these days do 960 PPQ and some people tend to think you don't need more than that. At a certain point the difference is imperceptible to the human ear. You probably don't need such a high resolution, depending on what type of music you're doing. All types of Hip Hop have been made for decades with 96 PPQ or lower. The SP-1200 has a resolution of 24 PPQ and people love the swing of it. It might be more beneficial to experiment with less BPM and see what happens. :)
@MarkTBeats2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, about other people. But at one point I was like " what happens if I make a trap beat at 75 bpm?" And it felt WAY❗ better because I had more room. So I guess you were right. Thanks for your time and effort Mr Naive 🙏
@imakebeatsxwillfrmda62302 жыл бұрын
I use any thing between 70 and 240 and I mostly make trapish beats
@GGman20192 жыл бұрын
dj pain 1 has plenty trap beats in the 70's bpm
@scoobertmcruppert29152 жыл бұрын
Single time gives you less room though and not more???
@mindmazebeats35682 жыл бұрын
Don't be like him LOL
@MarkTBeats2 жыл бұрын
@@scoobertmcruppert2915 ?
@eskilekern26702 жыл бұрын
One of the most helpful guys on yt, keep ut the good work man
@luz86152 жыл бұрын
I use a low BPM to create every beat I make 75 BPM helps me create better melodies I don’t aim for a genre really I just load up a sound and play some notes and just find the right vibe for whatever sound or sample I stumble upon and then add drums, fx, and mix it a bit but not too much that’s for the artist or engineer also working 1 on 1 with the artist while making the music really helps by speeding up your creative process or brainstorming for new ideas
@ChainsTheChef8882 жыл бұрын
I don't know when you got to 100K but congratulations on that achievement, your content does help us beatmakers
@iteli2 жыл бұрын
Dope thing is u can always change your BPM and adjust your beat. i normally have a tempo in my head when im starting or i just adjust it till i feel a vibe.
@idesel2 жыл бұрын
Single time is my friend. Some producer on YT claimed trap is produced in double time due to fast-paced hi-hat rolls often used, but then you can just press alt/option + u(FL Studio) to get same rolls in single time so I still continued producing in single time.
@DeiSonn Жыл бұрын
Was thinking this could potentially be a problem with my beats and stumbled across this video, thanks Navie D!
@GoodxJ Жыл бұрын
Nature Gang! I like the plants!!!!!! 🌳🌱
@HellaBeatsOfficial4 ай бұрын
I love when Kenny beats said he makes trap in 90bpm sometimes because most people don’t!
@RnBGarvey2 жыл бұрын
double time changes the resolution of the sequencer's swing.
@thesauce17912 жыл бұрын
This is such a great video. This is a very important but not as covered topic. Thanks for sharing. Keep up the grind 💪
@Coco0442 жыл бұрын
Double time helps plugins buffer sounds and effects easier on fl studio
@MvnStn2 жыл бұрын
I like to create boombap influenced beats at "double time", for one, to get more play with swing as you mentioned, and two, because I like to add a nice modernish beat switch sometimes. It do be smooth. Lol Cheers, Navie!
@BeezyOnDemKeyz7 ай бұрын
I always go off my vibe and how bouncy I’m feeling And tap my tempo
@OQuePodeDarErradovannier2 жыл бұрын
For trap beats double time can help in fl studio, but only because you can make hat rolls in the channel rack
@str8talkstantookie9 ай бұрын
Wooooow the melody of your trap beat is pure fire..reminds me prod kill from Atl
@therapcave4 ай бұрын
great vid, NAV! You the man.
@EricMartin.2 жыл бұрын
I think about half / double time when it comes to delay throws
@Sergio-nb4hj2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to live performance, with an MPC/vocals/guitar/whatnot, double time & single time definitely make a difference. There's a great Adam Neely video that explains why. It's one of the videos where he explores the fastest and slowest music humanly possible
@laughinggooner4271 Жыл бұрын
I have always wondered how double time and single time affect how a note is articulated especially for a one shot like our drums. Just looking at the settings on the generic sampler on FL studio would suggest that playing around with the BPM in such a manner might affect how one shots are articulated. The suggestion that you can feel a difference in the beat may come from that fact that drums in double time are more punchy as they are essentially being played for a shorter amount of time, while at single time the drums play a little longer so there is less punch.
@NavieD Жыл бұрын
That would only be different if you were using Stretch mode I believe
@laughinggooner4271 Жыл бұрын
@@NavieD thank you.
@Devezin2 жыл бұрын
I make beats in Reaper I use normal time. Because their grid can go to 1/512 with swing, dotted or triplet. Most daws stop at 1/64. If I make beats on mpc I use double time to get higher resolution. If I want swing there I use 1/8 swing which is essentially 1/16 swing. Bpms are just for the grid makes no difference to the sound to me
@johnreed46 ай бұрын
you are my teacher im ready to learn and apply your teaching
@maplefoxx62852 жыл бұрын
you composed the music for My friend Pedro? nice, that game is pretty cool. That was an odd midi trick you did there in FL select all notes but you dragged it like how you drag WAV files, I am uncertain if I can do that in my DAW reaper but I am guessing i can, probably just one of the million hidden options lol. Everything is hiding in reaper.
@luz86152 жыл бұрын
I think BPM doesn’t affect the construction of a beat because not everyone works at the same speed or carry the same experience to cook up on the spot and if you choose BPM over what you want the sounds to feel like then it’s always finna be well structured but it won’t really stand out from other pieces and it can be a big motivational killer
@haze_lee Жыл бұрын
i never produced any higher than 120, i mostly produce halftime including trap but i mostly do lofi and ballads so its a habit of me already
@SOVLTRON2 жыл бұрын
If the performance is quantized virtually identical , however, if not quantized then you CAN 'feel' the difference.. BUT It depends. It has more to do with how MIDI samplers work than tempo. Doubletime was used in the past to increase the PPQn on less accurate sequencers. If you were placing notes in with/without quantize one way to get more PPQN (pulses per quarter note) was to double the tempo. This way without quantize on the sampler was more accurate at placing the notes where the player placed them versus quantizing them to the nearest pulse per quarter note. so long story short, you can 'feel' it but it depends on what you're using. So technically an unquantized performance at 96ppqn will sound different than one at 960ppqn. Each DAW has a different PPQ to my knowledge so it really depends hope this helps
@ghanaboom Жыл бұрын
Please you are my favorite But can you please go over this again Using Kicks Snare and Hats to demonstrate the Bar How the BPM must control the Bars in the channel rack ❤❤
@GoReallaBeatz2 жыл бұрын
Yea you are right . I try to think about the bpm. Bpm changes the rythem of the beat you was making
@TheCoolerEndrx Жыл бұрын
me: *laughs in 1044 bpm*
@QBellowMusic6 ай бұрын
This is a solid vid Navie, thank you 👊🏽
@703records92 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that the easiest to rap on is between 80 - 110. With 120 - 140, it's a lot faster and requires less lyrics.
@wessidejoshh40912 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU……… these type beat makers need to see this
@mallhits11 ай бұрын
on an mpc you can make your high hat rolls faster via the ta tempo button if the beat is in double time. My assumption id the trap hat was developed via this mpc specific funtion. As a result trap, a genre born out of the mpc workflow, naturally defaults to double time.
@producedbyhamzah36852 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. As always those are gems. If I may however I think that there is a fundamental issue with he premises of this theory. The fact that we start with saying what genre we need to pick to then move on to the BPM is an approach that certainly makes sense however it is also a way to kill creativity before you even start. By that I mean that you don’t want to position yourself into a box as it will also influence the choice of sounds. If you want to create something completely new and push the envelope the BPM should come only after. Open to hear people thought on this. Respectfully, H
@m-soundstheproducer2 жыл бұрын
Great info
@NavieD2 жыл бұрын
Thanks M!
@aeonATL7 ай бұрын
Saving this to view later cos I’m at work 🙏🏽
@OfficialSavo2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what these other dudes in the comment are talking about but nice video. 💯
@midnightmoron3328 ай бұрын
did not expect my friend pedro in this. what are the odds hahahah
@blackopsrocky6222 жыл бұрын
Thanks Navie. I appreciate you
@SyproBeats2 жыл бұрын
truth be told, BPM doesn't really matter 80 BPM or 160 BPM if you create the beat around these bpm's you can get the same result you had in mind ... it has never been a matter of speeding up the project. it is more of how quick your loop goes around.
@aleksanderm81382 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought, so I still can’t really get the topic. Would picking a ‘right’ BPM for a genre you want to produce just be a ‘more correct’ thing to do, but not actually necessary for your production?
@alvaromurphyy Жыл бұрын
NAVIE WHY YOU LOOK SO CALM WHEN YOU SHOW YOUR EXAMPLE BEAT, THOSE BEATS ARE FREAKIN GOODS LOL
@sherifbadr34422 жыл бұрын
Another difference between single and double timing is the note repeat function, imagine 16th note hi hat in both cases
@notaveryversace2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the only difference is how the music is counted. 70bpm IS in a way 140bpm
@AutPen382 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you can use a 140bpm grid in FLS, but if you're making a trap beat it's still going to literally have 70 beats per minute. The double time (140bpm grid) just gives you more lines on the grid, so it's useful for programming those fast hi-hat patterns.
@danomaly89432 жыл бұрын
That stretching technique so simple but it just helped my beats big time. You definitely improved my workflow with this one, that’s to be expected.
@SJT2 жыл бұрын
True story bro ✅
@kenjomdeori81062 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much, I have always searched about this topic but never found any until now. I make future bass songs around 70 bpm and I always wonder why do they make in double bpm which is 140 bpm. But I never really found any differences in songs. I always had doubts in myself that Im doing it wrong. But now I know it's all the same. Thank u once again.
@kage-fm2 жыл бұрын
i took a survey of top producers, who all agreed that setting up your track for double time, and then setting it back to single time, before you wrote your track will release “vibe molecules” into your studio, which will digitally rearrange the bits in your audio file for maximum vibe alignment. unfortunately this alignment of digital bits is only transferable to vinyl.
@AJMixup2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, though I thought you were going to talk about like... the use of odd numbers (like ending in a 1 or a 7), is that still something that can be bad or does it not really matter as long I stay in the genre's bpm range?
@wavpercy2 жыл бұрын
Id say general rule of thumb with music, if it sounds good, youre good. I make shit all the time at like 118, 133, 164.. and if it slaps, it slaps.
@markpalleschi51722 жыл бұрын
No one really explains this thank you a sound selection video would be great too
@ash199814 ай бұрын
there is a whole gnre based on 140bpm (uk dubstep)
@matt36162 жыл бұрын
I’m here for the holister shirt
@youngbilofi58362 жыл бұрын
What about lofi trap whats is the best BPM for lofi trap
@roshiimusic49512 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just fixed some beats 💎🔥👌🏽
@jeneraljamthejet.2 жыл бұрын
I see you're getting swole big bro, Navie Diesel. 💪
@BlinkBeatz7772 жыл бұрын
Ay bro you dropped these!!! 💎💎💎
@MrMightyEthan2 жыл бұрын
I was literally just thinking of this yesterday! Thanks!
@NavieD2 жыл бұрын
I read your mind
@user-qe2xi1tb8v11 ай бұрын
Where do you place the kicks and snares in double time ? Do you make your beats in 4 bar pattern’s instead of 2?
@3rdARKnight10 ай бұрын
Yes
@zombiefisting5442 жыл бұрын
Thank God you posted this I've been so messed up on my bpms love this
@sinpadd2 жыл бұрын
hyperpop can definitely be higher than 150-170 bpm
@nathanbryers2 жыл бұрын
Sequencers also might respond to half/ doubling
@_no_96712 жыл бұрын
You really read my problems out loud
@highoffclorox20712 жыл бұрын
Don’t base your music off a certain bpm .. every song / beat has there own feel.. this why music sucks now everything is the same tempo and key
@ldee19692 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@arttourbeats2 жыл бұрын
Maybe You could do a video about using melody loops and how it affects when You changing their tempo ?
@WaveLordLuis2 жыл бұрын
This was a dope vid. Just feels different
@Soul_of_2 жыл бұрын
Great video and channel
@BombstractGnome2 жыл бұрын
Y’all, just hum a melody you like and tap that tempo to it and go. Quit overthinking it. No one gives a shit what bpm your song is.
@danielshaffer26092 жыл бұрын
Hey Navie, could you do a video on Trance beats?
@slimrell69272 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy I’m seeing this because I’m just realizing this lol
@PolymerJones5 ай бұрын
140 all day baby ! WAKE UP in the morning feeling like P Diddy / grab my glasses I’m out the door about ta hit the city/ before I leave brush my teeth with a bottle of Jack cuz I leave for the night I ain’t coming back
@djdada41482 жыл бұрын
BPM - You're right.
@danielmartinez55162 жыл бұрын
discovered your channel a few weeks ago, learned so much from your videos already. thank you so much, so appreciated
@NavieD2 жыл бұрын
Happy to have you on board Daniel
@juanx49862 жыл бұрын
Nice video Navie
@GehLekTek2 жыл бұрын
7:10 dont get this point. if you change the grid and zoom in it has the exact same effect. if you use the step sequencer in fl to put in notes however you could do faster hatrolls without going into the piano roll
@MrVein5.02 жыл бұрын
i use double time if i make trap beats on my beatstep pro. dont know if there is any other way of doing it.
@omaro82402 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great content 👍
@malafvmabeats58722 жыл бұрын
Single Time doesnt use double the space in the pattern and in the piano role
@Kryptdegen10 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on organized noise from outkast? And one on mannie fresh
@Guitarist888 Жыл бұрын
What about funk music? I wanna make a early Prince type beat.
@soapyrainmaker5367 Жыл бұрын
^
@Diceicecharliebeats2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥very useful thank you
@levigrim86532 жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@Jayeskool318 Жыл бұрын
Im a beginner and someone please tell me why my beat sounds like a slow R&B beat when the BPM is 130. I forgot to change it when I first made the beat. I was trying to make a hip hop beat at about 80 to 90 BPM. How can I make the necessary changes to make the beat sound a little faster but lower the BPM at the same time.