Bad Gear - GAIA II

  Рет қаралды 68,964

AudioPilz

AudioPilz

Күн бұрын

Become a Patron and get access to music clips from the show, additional content, Bad Gear samples and even more AudioPilz madness
/ audiopilz
Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Roland GAIA 2. Is this virtual analog and wavetable synth, successor to the controversial Roland Gaia SH-01 and Korg Minilogue lookalike truly bad or just mediocre? Are The Horrors of Mediocrity of the Roland Gaia 2023 enough for a Halloween episode?
Bad Gear - GAIA II
Thanks to Klangfarbe for lending me the first GAIA 2 they got hold of:
/ @klangfarbechannel
/ klangfarbewien
Chapters:
00:00 Intro tune
00:53 Overview Roland GAIA2
01:29 Wavetable Oscillator, Phase & Shape Modulation
02:00 VA Oscillators
02:22 Filter, Tone Knob
02:37 LFO Routing, Lack of Mod Matrix
02:47 XMOD, Ring Modulation, Sync
03:01 Amp & Filter Envelopes
03:08 Menu Diving, UI, Oscillator Envelope
03:36 FX Section
04:05 Patches
04:28 Models (or lack thereof), SH-101 Emulation
04:48 Motional Pad
05:10 Sequencer, Chord, Arpeggiator
05:23 What else??? (Integration, Build Quality, Pricing, Thanks)
05:48 Hate
06:10 Jam 1 (Electro)
07:04 Jam 2 (80s Stuff)
08:06 Finale (Danceable 80s Stuff)
08:36 Verdict
09:35 Patreon Vocoder Shoutout

Пікірлер: 1 300
@ChumpyDumps
@ChumpyDumps 9 ай бұрын
At this rate in a few months we’re gonna have synths announced on this channel lol
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
This only depends on Roland's marketing dept;)
@djdarksidejungle559
@djdarksidejungle559 9 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilz ha ha spot on there
@i_never_asked_for_an_alias
@i_never_asked_for_an_alias 9 ай бұрын
xD
@errorkit
@errorkit 9 ай бұрын
that's what she said....no wait...that's what I thought at first
@Seiti
@Seiti 9 ай бұрын
Bad gear straight from the oven
@jacobwhite9159
@jacobwhite9159 9 ай бұрын
when i saw roland was making a GAIA 2 for some reason my immediate thought was "i wonder what audiopilz will say about this"
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
None too soon;)
@jugglerj0e
@jugglerj0e 9 ай бұрын
😅😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DawlessHouseMusic
@DawlessHouseMusic 9 ай бұрын
A new record for straight to bad gear? We need a Bad Gear total show timeline episode with guests and a "BAD TIER".
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Great ideas, thanks!!!
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 9 ай бұрын
There were YTer guests for the special roast episode the other month.
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 9 ай бұрын
Bad tier or baaaad tier?!
@user82938
@user82938 9 ай бұрын
If this synth came with all the possible plugins unlocked, it might be interesting. It's so stupid to lock that stuff behind a paywall. Where will this synth be in 20 years when you can't buy or activate those things anymore?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Agreed!!!
@williambrown319
@williambrown319 9 ай бұрын
Its something i could see myself using heavily, but not till it hits the secondary market.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Even for half the money it would still be rather costly...
@mrstumpyninja
@mrstumpyninja 9 ай бұрын
My first synth was a Roland XP-50 Workstation. Wish you could get your hands on one and review it. The manual was epic. It was like someone strapped you into a Space Shuttle then handed you a copy of the Daily Mail, expecting you to get to the moon.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
@claudionapoles3388
@claudionapoles3388 9 ай бұрын
​@@AudioPilz if reviewing the xp-50, you could tie in the xp-60 and 80 as well (xp-80 my first synth/workstation). Great vid as usual!
@jarsamo
@jarsamo 9 ай бұрын
I was SO jealous to my friend who got XP-50 in the beginning of the 90s whereas I only had a shitty JV-35. I got to sample the XP50 sounds with my Amiga and used the samples with Protracker a LOT. Few years ago I finally got my hands on a cheap XP-30 (150€ or so) and I am still loving it and using it a lot.
@sonic2000gr
@sonic2000gr 9 ай бұрын
XP-60 was my first real synth too (had arrangers before). And yes, the manual was "an impossible mission". The keybed was amazing though. I would love to see it on Bad Gear.
@mrz80
@mrz80 9 ай бұрын
@@claudionapoles3388 The XPs are basically JVs at heart, with added sequencing and so forth, modulo some differences in how they squished the samples to fit in the ROMs. Florian's covered the JV-1080 (and yes, it made me twitchy to buy one :) ).
@bitley
@bitley 7 ай бұрын
As someone diving deeply into the gear I hate complaints in general. The Gaia 2 is an absolutely lovely synth and I got it because the JX8P I bought was broken, so I traded it back to the store and got the new one instead. I am blown away by how much it can do.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 7 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@nathanpohl
@nathanpohl 9 ай бұрын
At the rate you put out these episodes, I don't care how similar your jams are. Always impressed with how much you get done in a week!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@mastaboog749
@mastaboog749 9 ай бұрын
Im loving it! Love when you get new gear pretty fast, this was super fast! Honestly i might pick this synth up! You rule
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@ecclesoul
@ecclesoul 9 ай бұрын
Despite what people may say about this synth, I still like the tone of this thing.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@mrz80
@mrz80 6 ай бұрын
I like the tone; I just wish they could've hit a price point somewhat lower than 900ish clams?
@brunodadivore9606
@brunodadivore9606 2 ай бұрын
True! Roland stays Roland as a great sound maker and the first in the modern synths history
@uly1981
@uly1981 9 ай бұрын
ahh seeing the gaia 2 so soon on your channel brings tears of joy to my eyes
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@gerdokurt
@gerdokurt 9 ай бұрын
The verdict brought the Amadeus movie to my mind, when the priest wheels the fictional old Salieri in a wheelchair through the Asylum and Salieri repeats "mediocrities everywhere...I absolve you" in the finishing scene. that would be an awesome montage for this channel :D
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
...it also happened in my home town;)
@tomadeney8860
@tomadeney8860 8 ай бұрын
Mozart!
@mrz80
@mrz80 6 ай бұрын
Ego ta absolvo en nomini Jupiter, et ACB, et Zencore!
@user-kv1yr8lw5y
@user-kv1yr8lw5y 9 ай бұрын
I bought one and love it, very different sounding from the many synths I have.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@homeworldmusic
@homeworldmusic 9 ай бұрын
That actually sounds really nice, good demo!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@dk101likeu
@dk101likeu 9 ай бұрын
Loved the title of the final jam!...You never disappoint my man!...Great work
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@sonic2000gr
@sonic2000gr 9 ай бұрын
I actually like this one, to the point of considering buying one. Your amazing session with it makes it even more desirable :D
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@el_chingon_brian
@el_chingon_brian 5 ай бұрын
I bought one about a month ago and I love it. I lose hours playing with it
@sonic2000gr
@sonic2000gr 5 ай бұрын
@@el_chingon_brian I bought it too actually, after the price in Europe dropped. It's amazing.
@musicxtn
@musicxtn 7 ай бұрын
Gonna buy it. The keys matter too. 37 great keys for controller and inspiration.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 7 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@Existence_denied
@Existence_denied 9 ай бұрын
Gaia2 is Roland's attempt to make an access virus but with micro transactions
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@LocaliLLocano
@LocaliLLocano 9 ай бұрын
Bingo ! By the time you’re done you could have bought a Jupiter xm or system 8.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@voltijuice8576
@voltijuice8576 9 ай бұрын
They're offering Team Fortress 2 hats for the display
@jugglerj0e
@jugglerj0e 9 ай бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@nagualx4283
@nagualx4283 8 ай бұрын
Great job, your video it s crazy really nice. Thx.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@oliverpilatiz5533
@oliverpilatiz5533 9 ай бұрын
Every episode is a piece of Art…❤
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@djkanyon
@djkanyon 9 ай бұрын
As a suggestion, if you will ever stumble on King Korg it would be nice to see it on the channel!
@TimesOfTheSines.official
@TimesOfTheSines.official 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it's truly royalty amongst all hardware VA synths... & I don't imagine many folks realise it's bi- timbral too. When I realise it was myself, then It doubled my interest in seriously getting one... Now the band owns 2 of them... It's similar to the classic Z1, but a fare bit simpler to program... & thankfully Korg didn't cut corners on just how good their modelling should always sound... If they keep the cpu processors in their gear effective enough to properly generate the hi res for their modelling algorithms...?
@djkanyon
@djkanyon 9 ай бұрын
@@TimesOfTheSines.official I miss King Korg, i wish there were desktop modules/slim version today. I loved the idea of synth sound being created like a guitar processor. At first i was skeptical but then i heard it and was blown away. It's sad that it was abandoned so soon.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
@Dudderlyful
@Dudderlyful 9 ай бұрын
2004 VST plugin, savage! It's certainly not deserving of the price tag though, no aftertouch or midi thru made me laugh. What planet are they on?? Great jam at the end too, excellent work Mr Pilz. With Largo 2 coming out hopefully we can have a Blofeld 2! Straight to bad gear? One can only hope. HAPPY FRIDAY!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! Looking forward to a new Blo too!!!
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 9 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilz That's what HE said.
@voltijuice8576
@voltijuice8576 9 ай бұрын
Oh, come on, let's be charitable. 2010 VST plugin!
@voltijuice8576
@voltijuice8576 8 ай бұрын
My M-Audio Venom feels seen! It fills the place in my heart from having missed the Quasimidi gear when it was affordable.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Future classic!!!
@voltijuice8576
@voltijuice8576 8 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilz Designer Taiho Yamada also devised the Waverazor plugin, which is IMO fun and quite under-rated.
@mozkuthehermit5909
@mozkuthehermit5909 9 ай бұрын
Sound engine sounds amazing and i have been eying for this And get to see what it can be capable off For few years what i have been doodling with different synths They all have their achilles heel yet some have good positives what you use to emphasis on different synths Good jams on this weeks video And recommending Bad Gear I recommend go and look info about Behringer Odyssey, there is a alot of hate to that synth because it basically copies ARP almost perfectly and improves few things but it isnt perfect synth
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
@soundvapor
@soundvapor 9 ай бұрын
Still ticks all my boxes. Getting one.😅🎉
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@jon_gee
@jon_gee 9 ай бұрын
Love your work!! Still thinking Korg Karma would be great.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! Great suggestion!!!
@heribertopinzon882
@heribertopinzon882 9 ай бұрын
Bro delivered! Lets go!!!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@JoeKis
@JoeKis 9 ай бұрын
Great review as always! Please make a review of the new Akai APC64, it really looks tempting as a standalone step sequencer.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
@yasunakaikumi
@yasunakaikumi 9 ай бұрын
This new minilogue looks nice, but I still love the Minilogue XD
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Lol, shots fired;)
@swid_swid_swid
@swid_swid_swid 5 ай бұрын
I actually just returned a Minilogue XD because I loved it so much it made me buy a Prologue. I still actually really want a Gaiaorg, though!
@arcanics1971
@arcanics1971 9 ай бұрын
It's better than the Gaia 1, but then so is a mains-powered pangolin.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Nice analogy!!!😂😂😂
@mrz80
@mrz80 9 ай бұрын
"...a mains-powered pangolin." Have you a recording you can share with us? I wanna sample that!
@CaidicusProductions
@CaidicusProductions 9 ай бұрын
The transition from Jam2 to the main piece was excellent.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel* Full Tracks, Extended Jams, Sample Packs: www.patreon.com/audiopilz Follow me on Instagram: instagram.com/audio.pilz/
@patrickfitzgerald2861
@patrickfitzgerald2861 9 ай бұрын
Ah Florian, you and your channel owe such a huge debt to Roland . . . their bad gear assembly plants just keep cranking it out! 😎
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
So true!!!
@ComposerMichaelDow
@ComposerMichaelDow 9 ай бұрын
😂
@mrz80
@mrz80 6 ай бұрын
Gotta divvy up the bad gear labor. After all, The Cult of Uli™ can't do EVERYthing :D
@TokyoScarab
@TokyoScarab 9 ай бұрын
This has to be the newest piece of gear to ever be featured on this show 😂 (great vid, as always! :D)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@jeffryarchambeau5441
@jeffryarchambeau5441 9 ай бұрын
It's satisfyingly appropriate that your second jam has so much in common with the first since the Guy Et Tu is so common
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
😀😀😀
@d00mhound
@d00mhound 9 ай бұрын
the melody lead for the electro demo is just JAMMIN'!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@UrbanoModa
@UrbanoModa 8 ай бұрын
it's a great synth and tool for work and projects, the first version is also epic. Its just about the creator and the creativity, not spending your life online looking for funny movie or jpeg clips to overhaul your videos. As a rule i always skip to 6:00 or 7:00 minutes as the first 6-7 minutes are full of nothing to do with the product details. Talented guy though, helpful channel , educational. Lets face it , Avria and Tuvan, Armin Van Buuren made music made with these synths over the last 14 Years and they get 100's of millions of views. Its the tool maker with the tools, in any form of creativity.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback
@mrz80
@mrz80 6 ай бұрын
It's definitely the user as much or more than the tool. Heck, Florian's own videos demonstrate that week after week, punching out top tier bangers on some of the weirdest stuff ever to walk out of a music shop. :D
@torino1138
@torino1138 9 ай бұрын
Still waiting for the most commercially expensive bad gear product review yet: Moog One
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Soooooo hard to get hold of one...
@torino1138
@torino1138 9 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilzLmao considering you’re the absolute universally beloved KZfaq synthmaster I would assume a loaner from a fan or a fellow YT’er would not be out of the question
@Powhart
@Powhart 3 күн бұрын
We had a reference to Kylie Minogue in Bad Gear. I can die happy
@bassguitar2709
@bassguitar2709 9 ай бұрын
probably the fastest a "new" synth has been awarded with a review a this channel 😂 Great deconstruction! Please include the # of days since gear was first shipped until it makes it here
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Great idea, thanks!!!
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 9 ай бұрын
Roland doesn't have him on the YTer early review list for some reason...
@davidjazay9248
@davidjazay9248 9 ай бұрын
No touchpad should ever be in the middle of the panel. Awkward position. Korg got it right with the Z1, and that was in 1997.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Word!!!
@FloridaHiker619
@FloridaHiker619 7 ай бұрын
I'm impressed. Another mind blowing Roland synthesizer. It will be in every professional studio.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 7 ай бұрын
Maybe;)
@ScoopexUs
@ScoopexUs 2 ай бұрын
It can't be the most hated, simply because it hasn't been out long. It has five times the knobs of the Minilogue, plus a big display and touch pad. I don't think it's pricey for 750 EUR. It was very strange to hear you talk the synth down while demonstrating how good it sounds :)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 ай бұрын
Roland is famous for direct-to-Bad Gear stuff;)
@ScoopexUs
@ScoopexUs 2 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilz this guy thought "another Zen core release", but will keep it as a better Gaia. Which I believe is what sequels are about. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g6qSZcp4ra-tqKM.html
@doctorsynth1
@doctorsynth1 9 ай бұрын
Boy I wish the Venom had all the knobs and faders the Gaia 2 has.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Agreed!!!
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 8 ай бұрын
We all do
@clarkrogers7789
@clarkrogers7789 9 ай бұрын
you’re so musically talented i seriously love your jams they’re my favorite part every time
@clarkrogers7789
@clarkrogers7789 9 ай бұрын
well okay my favorite part is the memes BUT…!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@fredericfarr9663
@fredericfarr9663 9 ай бұрын
Wow, that was an immediate review after the synth`s release! Thanks for your take on this "innovation"👍 I will stick to my original Gaia and my minilogue XD 😊
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
I really started to appreciate the original GAIA after reviewing this one;)
@Aetila
@Aetila 9 ай бұрын
So far nothing can beat the Minilogue XD...despite being an analogue synth it has a broad sonic palette...all that with easy motion seq. and an extra digital engine.
@mrz80
@mrz80 9 ай бұрын
SH-01 for the sound and Minilogue for the look :D :D :D :D
@djkanyon
@djkanyon 9 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilz same here, original sounded poor but is sounded like Roland. This one is not even Roland-like.
@ladyapp-titude
@ladyapp-titude 9 ай бұрын
Wow, already? This must be a new record!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Probably;)
@mcstabba
@mcstabba 9 ай бұрын
Love it when you say "Althooo". Great vid as always.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@mishazinoviev6563
@mishazinoviev6563 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully you will release Jam 2s as an album, sir, as they vibe just amazing.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@benjames6431
@benjames6431 9 ай бұрын
No surprise to see this on Bad Gear. Literally none.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, it asked for it
@HazyJ28
@HazyJ28 4 ай бұрын
Jam 1 was hard as fuck. That's coming from an underground hip hop fan/artist. Jam 2 went just as nuts
@germansnowman
@germansnowman 9 ай бұрын
Anyone else notice the typo in the display at 03:05? FITLER ENV
@djkanyon
@djkanyon 9 ай бұрын
PLEASE PIN THIS COMMENT!!!
@AEDan71
@AEDan71 9 ай бұрын
Fitler at 03:14.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
I shouldn't make jokes about that as an Austrian...
@dstarling61
@dstarling61 3 ай бұрын
As an Austrian you should demand an apology for that and for ZenCore.
@ironinquisitor3656
@ironinquisitor3656 9 ай бұрын
The video I've been hoping would come out! Disappointed they went with the same boring recycled Zencore with this synth. The touchpad and wavetable additions are cool though.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!!! Agreed!!!
@joep-jams
@joep-jams 9 ай бұрын
Haven't seen a demo of this instrument that impressed me. Only today Anderton's made a somewhat okay demo with Andy. Have to says AudioPilz's jams with the Gaia 2 impressed me the most so far. So yes agree with the mediocrity part. Shame... at first glance it seemed to be ticking all the boxes 🤣(honestly my favorite line of every video).
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@mrz80
@mrz80 9 ай бұрын
It really didn't seem to add enough extra value given advances in base technological capability vs. the original to warrant the hefty increase in the price. The high dollar hit equals a hard pass for me. Still too many used Blofelds out there for under 400 fiat currency units. :D
@jonrichards333
@jonrichards333 9 ай бұрын
@@mrz80 yeah, Blofeld all day long. I'm considering getting a 2nd one for that Blofeld wall of sound.
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 9 ай бұрын
If you want to experiment with wavetables and such, the Microfreak is inexpensive, or invest in the Mini version if you want a real keyboard ( though unlike Micro, Mini doesn't at least yet have an update for importing samples ).
@thedonal
@thedonal 9 ай бұрын
"Business at the front and Toys-R-Us at the back". Genius!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@Grinfingrz5
@Grinfingrz5 8 ай бұрын
I have to stop watching Bad Gear while I'm eating! Where do you get all these images? ....and "sink"??!! Caught me off guard...AGAIN! All of it, just amazing. I don't know how you come up with all of these episodes so quickly. Thanks for always taking me out of any bad mindset I may be in. Well done!
@stevewoywitka3258
@stevewoywitka3258 8 ай бұрын
I can't lie if I was gifted this, I would be happy
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
👍
@napotronix
@napotronix 9 ай бұрын
It does have a nice crispy clear sound, and I really like the clean look of the front panel design and the elaborate interface, but I hear what you mean about the plasticky character of the sound. It lacks depth and doesn't really feel 'alive', if that even makes sense. Not a hidden gem (like the Aira compacts) it seems.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Agreed!!!
@nickipedley5
@nickipedley5 9 ай бұрын
I'm seeing hints of Alesis Ion in the styling 🤔
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
True that!
@alexandrosroussos
@alexandrosroussos 9 ай бұрын
Thanks ! Was a no go for me because of the absence of MIC-in, hence no compatibility to expect for my preferred Roland model expansion so far : Vocal Designer 😉
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, no vocoder is weird
@eebangpromotions
@eebangpromotions 9 ай бұрын
Another youtuber said this should go straight to Bad Gear and it has! Hahaha! ABSOLUTE SCENES! ❤❤❤
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Lol, really? Who?
@novalogue
@novalogue 9 ай бұрын
The chasis has the same color as the Minilogue - but if you look at the Minilogue and the System 1 you can see that the Minilogue has a pretty similiar but less advanced synth architecture (apart the sequencer)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
True that!
@novalogue
@novalogue 9 ай бұрын
People say the Minilogue is such a good synth - and to be honest - it was also not good at bass But people bash on the Gaia mainly because its a digital Roland even thought it offers you much more - the synth community is the biggest mystery of today haha @@AudioPilz
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 9 ай бұрын
@@novalogue it's less about what it's capable of doing, as evidenced here the wave shaper and wave table modulations are pretty flexible, and more about what they're charging for it - the Monologue and Minilogue at least used an analogue signal chain which understandably pushed the price up. Roland is asking basically the same price for digital versions, and afaict it's all DSP rather than something like high-frequency FPGA. Don't get me wrong, I like what this can do, but most of it is just a VA synth (with subscription stuff added on top) rather than reaaalllly leaning-into its digital nature. Not 100% regular VA, but mostly. And indeed the reprogrammable digital "oscillator" in the newer Minilogue can do a lot of the digital-hybrid sounding stuff too.
@novalogue
@novalogue 9 ай бұрын
I think its the other way around - they charge way to much for an unflexible analog synth that can be recreated by digital engines which are way more powerful - watch the Prophet 5 comparsion with the guy sitting on the floor - the difference what analog should do cant be accounted - the only one that cares if its analog or not is that guy in our mind talking about needing an analog synth for good bread and butter sounds - no one cares out there only we synth nerds that have to pin point a difference between analog/digital with a huge magnifying glass haha - the gaia doesnt sound like a Minilogue of course because its not modeled after one it has its one character but much more of everything and is a thing that lets you be more creative and not slamming the same old saw patch over and over again that cant even be modulated properly or be played with only up to 4 voices The digital oscillitar in the XD is a Menu dive oscillator - a pain in the ass to dial in if you dont only want to use basically 2 parameters on this Analog synths if they arent cheap and innovative are basically a retrovibe - a feeling -not a rational thing at least in terms of making music with a synthesizer and not only leave them untouched on your desk
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 9 ай бұрын
@@novalogue it’s totally valid to decide that you get no value from analogue circuits, but they objectively cost more than the digital ones nowadays. That’s what I’m discussing about the price, at least there’s a material reason for it. And it’s not just Roland, people said the same to Korg about the Wavestate and Opsix - “why are we paying 100% extra over the cost of a plugin and MIDI controller?” I feel similarly about the Minilogue XD oscillator, I knew I’d never have the patience for the menus. But you can undeniably load up many other software models, made by indie programmers and sold one-off instead of a centrally-curated subscription. That’s an obvious consumer friendliness advantage over monthly subscriptions. Korg is a much smaller company than Roland too, so they have less overhead, but it understandably makes people perceive Roland as greedy. If we’re focusing purely on the sound, after all, why spend £800 on this when you could do it all with software synths? People are looking for something unique to justify being in hardware. For some, the envelope sliders and touchpad are enough of a USP. For many, they take the opinion “if I’m paying for hardware, there’d better be some actual hardware inside of it”.
@WHern-gs6im
@WHern-gs6im 8 ай бұрын
Would love to see you review a yamaha su700. Anyway, great video! I'm not even that into synths and I still watch these videos.
@seeyouintheeighties
@seeyouintheeighties 9 ай бұрын
200k subs on the horizon now so should speed up now and well deserved! Please do the korg prologue, the flagship that is never talked about. I love my prologue whilst many hate it. Any chance you'll do it? I did a couple vids of recreated 80s and 90s song favourites on my channel
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Great suggestion, thank you!!!
@seeyouintheeighties
@seeyouintheeighties 9 ай бұрын
please be kind, or at least explore it fully @@AudioPilz
@lordflatworm
@lordflatworm 9 ай бұрын
If Korg would make a Minilogue XD with a small modulation matrix, nobody would have to make new synths anymore.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
I'd love to see that one!!!
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 9 ай бұрын
I would have bought a Minilogue XD if it had a mod matrix and more waveforms for the oscillators. Their popular workstation keyboards have tons of mod options, including mod options rarely found in hardware and software digital synths, I was bewildered how they left all that out of the Minilogues and Prologue. I love the Minilogue XD's sound, but it is way too basic.
@lordflatworm
@lordflatworm 9 ай бұрын
@@Jason75913 You can get a ton of free stuff for the digital oscillator including new wave forms. You can even make your own. This was nothing against the Minilogue. I think everyone should have one. I just wish it had a couple more modulation destinations.
@voltijuice8576
@voltijuice8576 9 ай бұрын
@@Jason75913 - Really? The XD multiengine slots allow for for pretty much infinite oscillator variety. I do agree about the limited modulation options. I would go nuts for a Korg multiengine workstation, although it doesn't seem too likely.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 9 ай бұрын
@@voltijuice8576 I couldn't care less about how theoretically versatile the middling digital oscillator can be, does it have the "infinite variety" right now? Or will that happen in 35 years? Screw the theoretical. And it cannot make up for the lack of mod options. The filter doesn't even have high-pass or band-pass modes either, aside from its numerous other limitations. My awesome Novation Peak I have now isn't theoretical by far, but also fittingly in a different price league, and a purchase opportunity that presented itself a few years later.
@universalvibe72
@universalvibe72 9 ай бұрын
While I did appreciate my hands on time with G2 in the showroom at the local Music store, I couldn’t help but understand truly what this is. It is a money making mechanism for Roland. It’s almost a disingenuous offering when you realize it’s the ROLAND scraps of everything that was already existing on the market. And then they took all the scraps and had a brilliant idea, let’s come out with the GAIA2 ! It makes me wonder if this is the same philosophy that they used when they put out the G1. It is a great beginner synth. Or an excellent performance controller with a built-in sound engine, including a shopping cart for prepaid plastic plug-ins PPP - 😮 Thank you for watching and ‘are you really giving me an NFR unit, for free?’ “No!”….. ‘ See you next time ‘ ❤
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@mrz80
@mrz80 9 ай бұрын
This game is called "How many different shapes and sizes of gear can we stuff with a Zencore engine before everyone figures out we've been scamming 'em all this time?" Innovation? What's that? Bang-for-the-buck? Surely you jest!
@universalvibe72
@universalvibe72 9 ай бұрын
@@mrz80 is it ZenCore.. or ‘NOT ZenCore’. ROLAND make up your mind! Pseudo ZenCore? Maybe ZenCore? ZenCore minus? ZenCore LITE. #ALMOSTACB 🙈
@randynovick7972
@randynovick7972 9 ай бұрын
I stopped looking at these after the first one came out, so thank you for relaying your impressions of the second. I'm still not looking at these, as it turns out. Happy Friday, Florian!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Hope you had a nice one too!!!
@stopmikeandjim3196
@stopmikeandjim3196 9 ай бұрын
This was my first time hearing about the GAIA-2, so I Googled it. And already this Bad Gear episode was the first video result for "Roland gaia-2"! I'd imagine that can't be great for sales
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Usually it doesn't hurt sales but it would be interesting to do more research on that
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths 9 ай бұрын
Florian's jams are so good at selling these products, if I was Roland I would ship him products on the sly and tell him to wait a couple of weeks after launch day.
@rorz999
@rorz999 9 ай бұрын
"Oh great, another zen-core instrument, my favourite synth engine technology!" said nobody ever 😂 This looks better than the SH-4D at least...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Nik.leonard
@Nik.leonard 9 ай бұрын
The worst thing is neither the SH-4D nor the Gaia 2 have the zenology sound set. Because of that I prefer the MC-101. It can do synth stuff but also has the Integra-like sound set
@0e0
@0e0 9 ай бұрын
I legit love Zenology Pro lol
@EarmonkeyMusic
@EarmonkeyMusic 9 ай бұрын
It’s not Zencore though
@partirparlesarmoires
@partirparlesarmoires 9 ай бұрын
The SH-4D sounds very good in my opinion, especially the drums. This one, not so much... I find it sounds lame and horrible, to say the truth...
@XHALE303
@XHALE303 9 ай бұрын
Ah Roland again?😁They must be your biggest fan. Marketing team: What's the fasted way to be featured at Bad Gear to stay in 1st place?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
They don't answer my calls;)
@XHALE303
@XHALE303 9 ай бұрын
lol at 1st glance it didn't tick all boxes, the Gaia2 still didn't.@@AudioPilz
@Eyepatchfilms
@Eyepatchfilms 9 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the 61 key version at double the price with even smaller wheels and lack of velocity.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
That's what I call innovation;)
@djthedarksider
@djthedarksider 9 ай бұрын
Zero Years Bond Villain :-) - Love the Blofeld Description :-)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@almightyEsquilax
@almightyEsquilax 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Florian's middle finger is bandaged because he overused it gesturing at this synth.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Lol
@packetpupper
@packetpupper 9 ай бұрын
Since you continue to hit all the newer Roland stuff, might as well go for the Verselab MV-1 :)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Great idea, thanks!!!
@roland4507
@roland4507 9 ай бұрын
What were they thinking? It does nothing special, it does not sound special so lets make the price special. Someone will buy it anyway. I did not expect it here that quick but then thats all the attention that thing deserves.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, that escalated quickly...
@synthshoot1026
@synthshoot1026 9 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for the synth that will make it to bad gear on launch day before loopop’s review.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
There are press embargos, the fastest I could get is at the same time as Loopop;)
@Aetila
@Aetila 9 ай бұрын
Why is it on the show? I sounds like a great...free VST synth! 😄
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@sparabo3780
@sparabo3780 9 ай бұрын
*** Breaking news: Roland is producing synths exclusively for Bad Gear. Stay tuned, more just after these messages… ***
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@gameon2000
@gameon2000 7 ай бұрын
At this point Dr. Audio-Pilz is playing devil's advocate. 🤣 I love this channel for its "debaters club" argumentation skills to learn to form a different, yet based opinion - even if I personally oftentimes have the opposite opinion on the topic at hand.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@LCDouglas
@LCDouglas 8 ай бұрын
In your welcome segment, that synth looks incredibly lit. 😮
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@crunchyfrog555
@crunchyfrog555 9 ай бұрын
3:04 Seriously Roland, can't you learn to spell Filter correctly on your own menu? That's embarrassing. Anywho, I'm kind of mixed abvout Roland's latest direction. While they do generally have that clean Roland sound (and the Gaia 2 is no exception) is it 800 Euros worth of sound and would I really use it? I somehow doubt it. When I look at certain synths that I use as backbone or fillers - such as a Juno or even the JD-08 - I don't really think it's enough for me. It's nice and all but there's so much else out there that makes this lost in the crowd. And that's the main thing that puzzles me about Roland these days. I don't think they're keeping up, when you consider what people like Korg are doing.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Especially as I, an Austrian, shouldn't make jokes about that way of spelling it...
@crunchyfrog555
@crunchyfrog555 9 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilz Ah now, was it you who changed it? Or was it indeed a Roland fuck up? I should have perhaps considered you were being tricksy ;)
@novalogue
@novalogue 9 ай бұрын
Fitler... Aaaa ...doesnt matter
@crunchyfrog555
@crunchyfrog555 9 ай бұрын
@@novalogue Well does this mean that when you get to use the High pass fitler, they get to check your papers?
@synthlord2368
@synthlord2368 9 ай бұрын
You can always pick out the "Zencore" synth engine in Roland's gear whether it's this synth, the AX Edge, or the MC707. It always has that same "electricy" edge to it. Almost like the chimey sound of a DX7. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Agreed!!!
@unclemick-synths
@unclemick-synths 9 ай бұрын
As ever your jams flatter the products you review. 👍
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@dirkluchtmeijer3937
@dirkluchtmeijer3937 6 ай бұрын
😂 great review 😂 btw Love the Gaia2 adding some atmosphere into my songs
@gekkonier
@gekkonier 9 ай бұрын
It's common knowledge, you can make even a plastic bag sound proper. I think this synth is too expensive (looking at hydra, freaks & co)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@benitoe.4878
@benitoe.4878 9 ай бұрын
Actually it’s not a clone of a Korg Minilogue but of a Korg Modwave.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 9 ай бұрын
A clone with some less features but then seasoned with Roland Cloud™
@benitoe.4878
@benitoe.4878 9 ай бұрын
@@Jason75913 My thoughts exactly. They even copied the touchpad. The faders are a nice addition, though.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 9 ай бұрын
@@benitoe.4878 faders for the EGs are classic for Roland. Last Roland synths with them have been the JD-XA, System-8 and 1, and SH-201
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@synthlord2368
@synthlord2368 9 ай бұрын
Happy Friday Florian!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Have a nice weekend!!!
@truekasia12
@truekasia12 9 ай бұрын
I dont know, it could be some sort of a stockholm syndrome, but after all the hassle i went thru with roland synths in last 6 years i want gaia2.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
I feel you so much!!!
@Gyrbae
@Gyrbae 9 ай бұрын
You know how Asylum Films make movies that go straight to dvd? Well Roland makes synths that go straight to Bad Gear. It's as if they're in on the meme and release this stuff for the lulz.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Straight-to-Bad Gear is a thing!!!
@mrz80
@mrz80 9 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilz I'm gonna print up a bunch of "Direct to Bad Gear" stickers and surreptitiously stick 'em on synths at my local music gear merchant's :D
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 9 ай бұрын
@@mrz80 They'll ban you at Guitar Center ( though that's not really a bad thing ).
@ggoty
@ggoty 9 ай бұрын
It’s like Roland did their research (watched your videos on their gear) before designing this synth!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
...and doing the exact opposite of what I consider to be a great synth design;)
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 9 ай бұрын
One right thing they did: G. 2 doesn't have the stupid joystick thing for p. bend and modulation.
@onar3d
@onar3d 9 ай бұрын
OOOOh that anime in the last jam looks awesome, what movie is it?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Metal Skin Panic MADOX-01
@onar3d
@onar3d 9 ай бұрын
🤩@@AudioPilz
@IntertemporalTraveler
@IntertemporalTraveler 9 ай бұрын
Oh snap! He went after a BRAND NEW one!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
It happens;)
@DjDayOne
@DjDayOne 9 ай бұрын
Fresh out the oven
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
So tasty;)
@KeskeinenAika
@KeskeinenAika 9 ай бұрын
It would have been so great....In 2002😂🎉
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
True that!
@helisoma
@helisoma 9 ай бұрын
apologies aside, the finale jam was ace as usual 😎👌🏻 ...thanks for the shoutout 🤗
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the support!!!
@Gainn
@Gainn 9 ай бұрын
There's something seriously welcoming and cosy about the sound of the GaiaLogue. If it goes on offer then I can see myself grabbing one.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Nice!!!
@mrz80
@mrz80 9 ай бұрын
There's one used on Reverb for under $600US at the moment. That kinda says something all by itself don't it?
@marcotixxx
@marcotixxx 9 ай бұрын
i love direct to Bad Gear releases from Roland! too bad they didn’t include a D-beam this time 😂
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@htechdance
@htechdance 3 ай бұрын
@@AudioPilz D-beam on Gaia and Touch controls on Ultranova. Those were the days!!
@Timecop1983
@Timecop1983 9 ай бұрын
Roland: we're not releasing any synths you want. We're not chasing ghosts. Also Roland: *Releases Jupiter-x, Juno-x, boutiques, TB's, etc. Synth nerds: 🧐🥺
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Word!!!
@Janomix
@Janomix 9 ай бұрын
Is the era of the Aluminum notebooks with an internal VST and keys... Thank you, Florian!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 8 ай бұрын
Lol, shots fired;)
@happymonday2591
@happymonday2591 9 ай бұрын
i was prepared to be disappointed because there was no picture of m audio venom in the video until the end lol
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 9 ай бұрын
Always safe the best until the end;)
Bad Gear - It's really Bad?
11:08
AudioPilz
Рет қаралды 104 М.
Bad Gear - Arturia MiniFreak
10:57
AudioPilz
Рет қаралды 115 М.
Sigma Kid Hair #funny #sigma #comedy
00:33
CRAZY GREAPA
Рет қаралды 34 МЛН
Пранк пошел не по плану…🥲
00:59
Саша Квашеная
Рет қаралды 6 МЛН
Alex hid in the closet #shorts
00:14
Mihdens
Рет қаралды 13 МЛН
Beautiful gymnastics 😍☺️
00:15
Lexa_Merin
Рет қаралды 15 МЛН
Roland GAIA2 - 1st LOOK Sonic Lab Presentation
22:44
sonicstate
Рет қаралды 45 М.
The story of Money for Nothing is weirder than you thought
8:53
David Hartley
Рет қаралды 639 М.
Roland Gaia 2, my thoughts....10.07.23 Wrap-Up snippet!
7:22
VolcanoBeats
Рет қаралды 315
ROCKET that LITERALLY BURNS WATER as FUEL
19:00
Integza
Рет қаралды 1,6 МЛН
I Sold My $100,000 Cybertruck After 50 Days
22:46
Snazzy Labs
Рет қаралды 672 М.
Bad Gear - Roland GAIA SH-01
9:35
AudioPilz
Рет қаралды 162 М.
Every Component of a Switch Mode Power Supply Explained
23:10
ElectrArc240
Рет қаралды 192 М.
Roland Gaia 2 Deep Dive - With Andy From Roland!
34:05
Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech
Рет қаралды 18 М.
Adobe is horrible. So I tried the alternative
25:30
Bog
Рет қаралды 772 М.
ROLAND GAIA 2 Review, tutorial, and all 250+ presets
1:11:29
loopop
Рет қаралды 124 М.
Kenjebek Nurdolday & Baller - Сөкпе
3:10
Kenjebek Nurdolday
Рет қаралды 26 М.
LISA - ROCKSTAR (Official Music Video)
2:48
LLOUD Official
Рет қаралды 130 МЛН
KeshYou x Snoop Dogg - Forever Sunday (Official Music Video)
3:06
BM PRODUCTION
Рет қаралды 101 М.
Stray Kids "Chk Chk Boom" M/V
3:26
JYP Entertainment
Рет қаралды 56 МЛН
Alisher Konysbaev - Suie ala ma? | Official Music Video
2:24
Alisher Konysbaev
Рет қаралды 1 МЛН