Bad Gear - Marshall MG vs Line 6 Spider (Battle Of The Bad Amps)

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AudioPilz

AudioPilz

4 жыл бұрын

In this episode of Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools, we are going to feel our blood pressure rise in the face of two of the most despised guitar amps of all time. Can we get some usable sounds out of them? Should they be destroyed?
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@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to check out the Better Gear episode about the Line 6 Spider: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9Ones-ft7m2iok.html
@joolzhud
@joolzhud 2 жыл бұрын
Both amps are well good enough for practicing at home which is really what they were designed for. I don’t get all these KZfaq videos slating the smaller practice amps.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting! Nice one!
@circedge
@circedge 3 жыл бұрын
The MG is one of the best sounding low power bedroom SS amps out there. What you on about fella?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I make vids about stuff that people don't like;)
@tomterry2662
@tomterry2662 2 жыл бұрын
Mg is a decent amp. This guy dont know the difference between shit and shineola boot pollish. . he likes boy george over priest and maiden so their you go. He tweak's amps to lame tone and not metal. The mg is a hard rock metal amp. Dont listen to this guy anyone can do a youtube video . and he is proff of that.
@visisydandthevoid
@visisydandthevoid 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomterry2662 you sounding pretty salty there bro lol
@anthonyvalentino9483
@anthonyvalentino9483 2 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz and it's a proven fact that the ones who complain never owned or played out of a Marshall MG or the Line6 IV 75 watt
@allguitar3349
@allguitar3349 2 жыл бұрын
Right on
@lhzx
@lhzx 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using MG15dfx for more than 10 years and I've owned 3 of the same model. Killer amp for solos and metal. I don't care about the price tag and what ppl say and I enjoy playing with it as much as my JVM410 and JCM800.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly the more versatile choice of the two
@christopherbeddoe406
@christopherbeddoe406 2 жыл бұрын
Funny. Most people who buy the Marshall MG series really like them. Even guys playing Marshall half stacks have said they like the MG series for dragging around to practice. I'm probably going to buy a MG30GFX for less than $300. Can't go wrong for a practice amp.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly better than the Line 6;)
@mr.astrophysics9115
@mr.astrophysics9115 2 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz I suggest you do your research on the older Marshall MG Amps instead of assuming and speculating..
@MarioBohorquezE
@MarioBohorquezE 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the MG... Great amps!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Got the Marshall tone
@anier1582
@anier1582 4 жыл бұрын
Another great vid!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
@sonicjackalopeproductions3342
@sonicjackalopeproductions3342 3 жыл бұрын
As an engineer, the Marshall still has hope in a mix. That Line 6 is utter compressed trash. Seriously. I would not call it a Vs. match. That Spider needs to be squashed under someone's shoe
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Have you heard the "modded" version? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9Ones-ft7m2iok.html
@orionktulu
@orionktulu 3 жыл бұрын
There's an easy way around that. Turn the gain down and plug in a clean boost or overdrive.
@synthnchill7457
@synthnchill7457 4 жыл бұрын
Line 6 was my first amp, it is now on the floor as a riser for my stereo receiver :) ...however, when learning guitar it did what I needed it to do, still would recommend if someone is just starting out.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
More L6 content to come!
@emilyschmanks
@emilyschmanks 4 жыл бұрын
i don't think it's an overstatement to say you are the freshest synth/gear/audio youtuber on the block right now sehr sehr geil
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I means a lot to me to hear that
@partyxplays
@partyxplays 2 жыл бұрын
I personally like the marshall amps as i like the tone but we all have different opinions. Great vid!
@thecognacsipper
@thecognacsipper 3 жыл бұрын
i thought you had so many subs! how do you not! ill comment every effin video, keep it up man!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Working on it;)
@JTHelectronics
@JTHelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
I've been working in music shops for awhile, either one is usable in a pinch; but if I had to play a gig and my main amp blew up, the marshall mg is the clear winner. Biggest weakness is speaker, so if you have a cheap replacement to throw in there, do it
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Been there, done that;)
@CalanReichel
@CalanReichel Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this! I was literally having this old debate of which sounded worse running through my mind just now lol
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Ай бұрын
😀😀😀
@MartinZiegert
@MartinZiegert 3 жыл бұрын
It worked, you made me smile, thanks. It's really refreshing when you on a shopping tour like me, now since 4 months, to get something decent together and listen to all these paid folks, and then I see something like this, by pushing the product to the ground. Great, I am sure nobody paid you to say that - herrlich :-)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Have you taken a closer look at the small Orange and Blackstar amps?
@TokeStorm420
@TokeStorm420 2 жыл бұрын
I recently had my MG10CD listed for sale after parting with my guitar and it just wasn’t selling. I watched this episode and wondered how my Microbrute might sound plugged into the 10 watt MG. I was pleasantly surprised by the tone I was getting. It complimented the Microbrute nicely. So, I decided to keep the MG10 and took down the listing. ‘Tis now my little synth amp.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Amps and synths go together well!
@pooinloo588
@pooinloo588 Ай бұрын
I had a MG100HDFX Head unit with the 4x12 and it was unbelievably solid. It’s what introduced me to Marshall. It blew Peavey, Kustom, Crate, Randall and Line6 out of the water. Sure, it’s not the greatest Marshall to exist, but if you want affordable, raw, with tone and range, and that historic Marshall sound, the MG100 is great for that. Just know at the end of the day, adjusting the settings and a decent pedal or two, and you can find a sound you’re looking for without paying $2,000 or more for in just a head unit alone. Don’t settle for this stigma of shitting on lower end Marshalls because of the price. You can get anything you’re looking for with some extra equipment. Just know every band you listen to, and most KZfaqrs doing reviews, have extra hardware in their guitar or pedals and it will never be the same as you and your raw amp. Just get some new pick ups, and pedals, and you’d never know what Marshall you’re playing on.
@sirhc2242
@sirhc2242 3 жыл бұрын
I owned the 100 watt MG head and it was great! The speaker kills both of these amps right off the bat
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
So true!!!
@alexcrouse
@alexcrouse 3 жыл бұрын
Hook that marshall to a real speaker and they actually sound pretty decent.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Did this to the Line 6. Whole different story
@DoktrDub
@DoktrDub 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz as in it turned out decent or still not good?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
@@DoktrDub there's a Better Gear episode about that. Not a Fender Twin after that but I liked it a lot ;)
@DoktrDub
@DoktrDub 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz oh cool I’ll check it out shortly, you’ve got great content by the way, keep it up :)
@DoktrDub
@DoktrDub 3 жыл бұрын
They are good starter amps, I would recommend them to a complete beginner on a budget if they find one cheap, or if they prefer the orange crunchy sound then an orange crush 20 amp, which actually sounds pretty decent for a solid state amp, good little analogue amps.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Orange Crush amps!
@Windiguana
@Windiguana 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are better stater amps out there in the same price bracket.
@hubbarao
@hubbarao 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel, and as a long time guitarist this episode really grinds my gears :D Try finding a 15 watt combo amp with diverse range, excellent tone and lack of sweet spots in this price range, they don't exist. Review the 1 watt battery powered Marshall MS2 next haha. Beginner guitarists should save their money for a real half stack and pedalboard, don't spend $$$ on a low wattage practice amp because you will likely blow the speaker rocking in your garage regardless of the brand. Both of these product lines sound great with a reasonable size amp head, 4x12 half cabinet, and an experienced guitarist. I've owned a Marshall MG100HDFX with the slanted 4x12 half cab for many years and it always turns heads. I dial in the tone on the clean channel and one of the distortion channels only, same with the fx section (doesn't get much use, what pedals are for), and the amp head and cabinet sound amazing with any pedal in your signal chain. Line 6 makes some of the best value entry level combo amps out there; I don't prefer their bite for my music, but it works very well when done right and their amp emulations are perfect for beginners looking to expand their sonic palette. Just my two cents, keep up the great work!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! True that! There are quite some nice-sounding budget mini-amps, eg the Blackstar and Orange stuff but you know the drill: we will eventually make it work;)
@dukenstar
@dukenstar 4 жыл бұрын
Nice playing
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
THX!!!
@MrOuija-rr8kq
@MrOuija-rr8kq 4 жыл бұрын
I think Guitar snobs are above Synth snobs tbh. Just a little bit. We all listen to an artist that recorded their best album with potato’s and Pringle cans. Also there’s tons of albums that are complete crap that sound nice.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
There is a longer tradition of being picky about guitar gear, methinks...
@goopxiv5683
@goopxiv5683 2 жыл бұрын
i love both of these amps yall are on something
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly caffeine;)
@respectfulremastersbymetal8336
@respectfulremastersbymetal8336 4 жыл бұрын
You know, they actually sound pretty good when they are together. I bet if you split the signal, mic'd em up nicely, and blended them together, you could get a really unique and, yes, good tone.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Bypassing the Spider's speaker really helped kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9Ones-ft7m2iok.html
@respectfulremastersbymetal8336
@respectfulremastersbymetal8336 4 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Nice. I really like that transistor high end crackle.
@endezeichengrimm
@endezeichengrimm 7 ай бұрын
The Marshall MG still gives you that analog feel. I've owned one of each. I think the Marshall is the better choice.
@AudaciousAce1989
@AudaciousAce1989 4 ай бұрын
I bought an mg15dfx dirt cheap, slapped a 10" greenback in there, changed the cloth grille from the boring black to a cool black and brown grille, got a custom marshall block logo, and boom. A completely different looking and sounding amp. It sounds cheap, but it still sounds good. Its a little muffled even with a great speaker but it has a cool ambient vibe. Like the sound you want when you're playing on the balcony of an old lodge in the middle of the woods.
@mr.astrophysics9115
@mr.astrophysics9115 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm what Era Marshall MG are you talking about...it's definitely not the older ones 2004 to 2010 they were excellent pro quality...
@BRZguy
@BRZguy 5 ай бұрын
KZfaqr Dave Simpson swears by those old Marshall MG's. And he does get a really nice tone out of them actually. I think the secret is playing through a JCM800 cab with good speakers.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 5 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@old_romans
@old_romans 3 жыл бұрын
So I have the Line 6 III version of this, and I changed the speaker to a Skar Audio full range and sealed the little cab. Sounds better.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Great hack!
@bobobobbybooboo7848
@bobobobbybooboo7848 4 жыл бұрын
Is think i saw a rickenbacker guitar in there like the one styled after the bass. Those look cool i wonder how they play/sound i had a 4003 bass till it got stolen. Uhhhg.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard it but Mats REALLY likes it. It has a very unique sound so we didn't use it for the video
@bobobobbybooboo7848
@bobobobbybooboo7848 4 жыл бұрын
I fixed an old gorilla tube amp someone gave me, to the best of my limited capabilities. It always on when you plug it in now but it works. I kinda like it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Those Gorillas show up quite often in the comments. I want to have one
@diegonapoles2469
@diegonapoles2469 3 жыл бұрын
AudioPilz no you don’t
@bludworm1
@bludworm1 3 жыл бұрын
Ok...so just what do you recommend for an amp in keeping it within the same price range?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Boss Katana gets a lot of love. Never tried it myself, tho
@bludworm1
@bludworm1 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the Boss Katana mk ll 50 is a fantastic sounding amp to my ear. After hearing it in head to head battles against other similar amps in videos i decided to go listen to them in person in the same head to head battles. The end result was the same. I bought the Katana and have been very satisfied with it. As for my first comment about recommendations, I was wanting to hear what other people’s thoughts were on the subject.
@samtheman123
@samtheman123 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve used the MG15FX for my whole I really like it.
@vinceruland9236
@vinceruland9236 3 жыл бұрын
I have the mg15dfx and the mg50dfx and I think they both sound great. But thats just me playing for fun at my house and not in a band.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Not bad for practice (and some recording applications;)
@DoktrDub
@DoktrDub 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinceruland9236 the next step would be a small bedroom valve amp, quality valve tone at bedroom levels :)
@vinceruland9236
@vinceruland9236 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz i have a Bugera T5 5 watt. And a Marshall dsl1 on backorder from sweetwater. Also have a Marshall class 5 tube combo but it's way too loud to use inside without an attenuator....which I dont have. Yeah I like tube amps for sure. 👍👍
@superchaine7339
@superchaine7339 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a brand new MG100FX COMBO in 2010 for 350€. The sound was very very un-clear and I couldn't get to make good repetition with it. It stayed at my parent house for some years and I finally tryed to sold it for some years first for 200€, then 150€, 100€ and finally 50€. No one wanted it ! In the mean time I bought a Orange Tiny Terror and a 2X12" cabinet with two celestion vintage speaker. Long story short, I cut the amplifier in two and separate the amplifier from the original speaker of the MG100FX and I short-wired the effect potentiometer (exept reverb wich is ok) to be sure I could ONLY use the clean clean on the cabinet. It works ok now (for occasionnal use).
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the speaker is kind of the weak(est) spot
@flochartingham2333
@flochartingham2333 4 жыл бұрын
I use a Spider 75 with the cheap foot controller fed by the output of a cheap transparent overdrive stomp box and for as cheap as I got it used, I really like the versatility. It has a lot of serviceable tones as far as I'm concerned, but yeah, it can sound pretty crappy.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't the 75 a completely different beast?
@DavidSmith-xz4zz
@DavidSmith-xz4zz 4 ай бұрын
I think it's just that the tone snobs have given these amps a bad reputation. They are both fine for beginners or for noodling around on in small spaces where higher volumes aren't needed.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@devooski4751
@devooski4751 3 жыл бұрын
I use the mg50 and man it is amazing with a guitar pedalboard guitar processor. And I use a wolfgang standard. Good all around amp for metal, hard rock, blues.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Wolfgangs are tight!
@savvasdarkthrone7964
@savvasdarkthrone7964 2 жыл бұрын
i also have the mg50gfx and its an amazing amp.
@edrosa3485
@edrosa3485 3 жыл бұрын
“The St. Anger of amps”... that was harsh!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
...and even Van Halen III was not exactly nice
@arcadeuk
@arcadeuk 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Van Halen III can at least still technically be called "music", whilst St Anger sounds like the whole album was done in one take, after the band all did heroin, and then each band member recorded their "part" whilst sat in individual toilet stalls (yes I am still angry because I pre-ordered St Anger)
@Windiguana
@Windiguana 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really think it was too harsh, they both sound like hot garbage.
@Uz7Racer
@Uz7Racer 4 жыл бұрын
Cooles Video :) Hast es echt geschafft die beiden Kotzkrüken in diesem Kontext eine einzigartige stimme zu geben :D
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Danke! Ein guter Gitarrist hilft da sehr ;)
@Uz7Racer
@Uz7Racer 4 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz es lässt die Amps gerade zu Sympatisch klingen
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
@@Uz7Racer wie gesagt, der Ton ist in den Fingern (und ein wenig post pro;)
@SHouseRecords
@SHouseRecords 10 ай бұрын
I've run into the full size MG heads at rehearsal studios from time to time. They're usable for metal if you throw an overdrive pedal in front of them. At least the HDFX series anyway. I wouldn't record an album with them or anything. But they're fine for band practice.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 10 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@shermanchow4264
@shermanchow4264 2 жыл бұрын
revisited this one and I think another amp or guitar related video is overdue!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but the guitar crowd is so brutal;)
@ringtangting
@ringtangting 4 жыл бұрын
The random cut of the mouse beating the meat Rocky style killed me. Is that from ratatouille or something? I have nothing more to add, I know nothing about guitars or amps.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the dark & twisted world of guitar sounds ;)Yeah, it's ratatouille
@darwinsaye
@darwinsaye 7 ай бұрын
I’m a fan of good solid state amps. Alongside many vintage tube amps I’ve owned over the years, I’ve always had my early 90s Fender Sidekick 25. It has the classic Fender tone and is a solid, reliable, light workhorse, and even has a real spring reverb tank. Both those amps in the video sound like those tiny, plastic, battery-powered amps you clip onto your belt.
@KnownUser139
@KnownUser139 Ай бұрын
I love my MG15R, the distortion is really good, specially after turning the volume knob past the 4th marker. My mids, treble and reverb is at max. Bass and gain are both dialed around 9. It's kept underneath my desk on the floor, so that adds a nice depth to the tone, and you'll stop hearing some static noise this way. I mostly play stuff similar to lamb of god, bodom, nevermore and such. If anyone is looking for a metal monster for a small room and this is within reach, have no doubt.🙂. Even with my 7 string it packs an insane punch. While i respect this videos opinion, if a metalhead is checking this, go check out Ola Englund's review of the MG15.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@VincentSebastianMusic
@VincentSebastianMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't include an old fender mustang! The old ones were pretty terrible haha
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those are not always fun...
@JTHelectronics
@JTHelectronics 4 жыл бұрын
specifically the 15W - that was more due to power rating and speaker. the larger Mustang III had some decent sounds in it - kinda like early 2000s multi-fx and amp modeling; good sounds are in there you just gotta dick around with the presets. The III has a lcd screen so its easier to mess with without using a goofy app
@DoktrDub
@DoktrDub 3 жыл бұрын
That was my second amp a long while ago, I failed to get a good sound out of any preset at the time, I don’t know if it would be different now though, I had a cheap kustom analogue amp before that and I would prefer that any day over the mustang, but the mustang did it’s job, it just didn’t do it that well
@johnnydeformed7123
@johnnydeformed7123 3 жыл бұрын
Line 6 amps sound better than they used to but now, they're more difficult to use. Like it will nail Billy Corgan's sound at it's most crazy, but then it's hard to dial in "normal."
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
That's what a lot of L6 players told me recently
@greyblooz
@greyblooz 4 жыл бұрын
I have been able to get good sounds from entry-level amps like the Peavy Blazer (II/Red) and a Fender (Japan) SD-15CE, but with so many great options for guitarist now, I am kinda surprised at how shieze these best sellers sound, especially in your very well made video. The speaker is invariably where the cost-cutting occurs on practice amps. I wonder if a $40 speaker swap would help these.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
THX! I agree, the speakers are the main suspect.
@synthnchill7457
@synthnchill7457 4 жыл бұрын
probably, but not worth it.
@starwarsmaniac09
@starwarsmaniac09 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo, the line spider 6 is the only electric guitar amp I’ve had for about 10 years! gotta say I’m a fan, great practice amp, you can maneuver and make some nice tones
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
It's certainly usable
@Rockerrobin
@Rockerrobin 2 жыл бұрын
Try some other amps especially the katana you will be surprised just how lacking the line6 is.
@J_Braz_
@J_Braz_ 2 жыл бұрын
I love my spider3 75 watt combo. I just sent back a Marshall dsl40cr. I was very disappointed with the tone. Especially for a 850 dollar amp.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not exactly a Plexi
@texacomann
@texacomann 3 жыл бұрын
I like the marshall much more. But the truth is in your hands. Practise and get a better sound, no matter what amp you have, is the best investment!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@NunyaB1s
@NunyaB1s 3 жыл бұрын
As someone whose straddled both the synth and the guitar worlds for some time this was a great vid, maybe try another guitar vid now that you've gotten alot more subscribers? Dunno that I'd even recommend the Line 6 for industrial though. TBH I don't even know why you'd go with either unless you were a kid because $500 should get you a good used Line 6 Pod Pro and while even that ruffles purist feathers, you can get great tones for recording purposes. I talked once with the Singer/Guitarist for the swiss band Sybreed and I was shocked that they didn't mic a single cab for any of their albums.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! TBH the synth world is much more relaxed - I'll stay here;)
@ThomasLoyd
@ThomasLoyd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Bass Player who wanted play a little guitar and got me a Spider V3 so I have a soft spot for Line 6. I have couple of their products. However, the Spider 3 is the rather "special" one amongst all the other giants made by Line 6. And, my opinion on items like this are the following: everything has a place, you just have to figure out where you want to use it. If "shitty" sounds are you thing, welcome to the "Spider" way of doing it. Otherwise, get yourself a Helix floor or rack model and be happy with a financially thinner wallet in the process and have an eargasmly useful sound in perpetuity.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Big Helix fan here!
@ThomasLoyd
@ThomasLoyd 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz I'm not surprised as I've been virtually looking over your shoulder at all the cool fun gear you get to play with. Thanks for the cool videos! I'm enjoying them immensely as you cover these unusual items. As for the Helix, it is my third processor from Line 6, I have the POD X3 Pro Rack AND Floor models too. They're fun to break out and use on occasion. One of my better purchases that fell into Line 6 abandonment was a 4-String Variax Bass. They had such potential.....And yet there they are left abandoned on an Einbahnstrasse Ausfahrt of the Autobahn of Line 6 Technologies.... I would put a frowny face here, but I'm ok (until it stops working).
@azmanazmanudin7981
@azmanazmanudin7981 3 жыл бұрын
I do not understand why many people say line 6 amp is bad..I used to use it .... I said line 6 is good ... but now I have moved to marshall ......both have a nice sound
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
There are many nice L6 products out there!
@stormtrooper9434
@stormtrooper9434 Жыл бұрын
I'm the proud owner of a MG15 DFX, the original MGs, I bought it some 15 or 16 years ago, and to me it sounds fantastic!!... the only drawback is that you can't dial a small amount of gain, even at its lowest position, it really goes to eleven!!...you have to play with the guitar volume for this, but you don't hit the gain channel of a Marshall to play skinny poppy songs, right?...having said that ,the cleans are round and very defined, and with the right guitar, you could even play some jazzy lines if required...the effects are a sweet addition ,but not top...but all in all the package keeps you playin'!!...was my practice amp until I got a Roland Microcube as a gift, and now the MG stays ay my holidays home...but still used and loved!...And there I can make it roar with it's tiny 8", and man, it's LOUD!....Maybe some day I'll try the ext. spkr. mod, but for the time being, I'm happy with it.
@AndrewJohnClive
@AndrewJohnClive 3 жыл бұрын
The rat punching the steak? Ah! my man!🤣🤣
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Had me ROFLing ;)
@jelapeno
@jelapeno 2 жыл бұрын
I run a Helix through the aux in of an MG30dfx and it gives the MG a whole new purpose and it does not suck at it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@robbiewabisabi
@robbiewabisabi 4 жыл бұрын
Es war schwer zu sagen, welcher Verstärker schlecht klang, weil dein Freund ein großartiger Musiker ist. Gute Arbeit!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Mats hats ziemlich drauf ;) Besten Dank!
@floydhendrix4399
@floydhendrix4399 4 жыл бұрын
Wenn Du richtige Metalzerre brauchst dann hol dir den Spider. Ich habe meinen MG30 DFX gegen einen Spider III 15 getauscht. Und ich habe noch einen Spider V30. Diese guten Rock- und Metalsounds hätte ich mit den Marshall nie hinbekommen.
@NintenDub
@NintenDub 2 жыл бұрын
Funny though that these amps are almost definitely better than any amp Hendrix,page, Lennon,Clapton,gilmour etc had as a first,second or maybe third or fourth amp before they got good and really got going in their respective club circuits and upgrading gear n makin money and getting better.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't they mostly use modded tube radios? These sounded awesome...
@Smurf_Garden
@Smurf_Garden 4 жыл бұрын
try the mxr prime distortion pedal. it is the worst bit of kit that I have. or possibly some of the mini bedroom amps in a shootout.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that this 80s abomination of a stompbox😅 will take a look into it
@guitarcare
@guitarcare 3 жыл бұрын
so, the problem is the speaker quality or the amp? 😯
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
The amp is not high end but the speaker is the real weak spot. There's a video where we bypassed it. Makes it much better
@guitarcare
@guitarcare 3 жыл бұрын
thanks 😀😀😀😀😀
@AaronNGBnTech
@AaronNGBnTech 3 жыл бұрын
Man, Send that MG to Dave Simpson and tell me if it's a Bad amp xd
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Did I say that?
@HereandThereWeGo
@HereandThereWeGo 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Title - Bad Gear...Battle of Bad Amps, yep you pretty much said it! I am inclined to agree with you tho, having just got the 30Watt MG version..
@strangemagic5502
@strangemagic5502 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Marshall MG and I can dismiss this nonsense.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback
@Greed-IQ
@Greed-IQ 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if my Marshall CODE50 is better than this MG. I don't have any complaints tbh
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
The CODE got quite some honorable mentions in that context
@E.V.hMcFadden
@E.V.hMcFadden 11 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with the MG especially the older ones and the line 6 IV was used in many recording studios one of them was Sigma sound..if you really done you're research you would have known this..
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 11 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@joeambly6807
@joeambly6807 5 ай бұрын
Lmao no serious studio records woth a line 6 spider. Stop reading and start playing
@allguitar3349
@allguitar3349 2 жыл бұрын
Guys these amos are fine for beginners .noones touring or gigging with it .its a digital modeling marketing move. Someone with a squire,sawtooth ,epi, or first act ain't gonna know tube tone and it won't matter to learn on. They're greeeeeat like Tony tge Tiger says for begineers
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Word!
@123edwardsm
@123edwardsm 3 жыл бұрын
How about some retro gear the roland D110
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Already monitoring Roland Ds in the local classifieds
@bobobobbybooboo7848
@bobobobbybooboo7848 4 жыл бұрын
I was never a big fan of line 6, i borrowed a bass pod and it did have a few cool sounds, you couldnt really tweak them. I liked my boss gt6b waaaay better.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Really liked the first POD when it came out
@matthewgaines10
@matthewgaines10 3 жыл бұрын
You said you were a lousy guitar player in one of your videos. I submit to you a lousy guitar (or synth, novelty, or toy...you choose). The Casio DG-20. A synth with guitar strings that is sure to disappoint both the synth user and the guitar player. Check it out and feel the pain. Great work by the way.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah, the Casio DG-20. I only know the legends. Must be an abomination!
@matthewgaines10
@matthewgaines10 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz It is my friend...it is.
@dreibel
@dreibel 4 жыл бұрын
another one to search out - the ZOOM 505 guitar multi-effects pedal. Cheap plastic box with the most awful sounding digital effects. ZOOM has done some outstanding multiFX, but that wasn't one of them.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
I already have a guitar player working on songs for it
@brendanb2517
@brendanb2517 3 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with the Marshall?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
There are better Marshalls I would say
@Fonkemman
@Fonkemman 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz in that price range? Not being sarcastic here, genuinely asking.
@cemsarioglu5947
@cemsarioglu5947 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work in a guitar shop selling the Line 6 amps. Spider was so bad that even the beginners did not want to buy one. It makes a pro guitarist sound like an amateur.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the Better Gear episode to the little Spider?
@cemsarioglu5947
@cemsarioglu5947 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Hi. No I will watch it today. I was commenting about the first gen Spider amps. They fixed the issues in the next generation of products. I like Line 6 brand by the way.
@Mr75044
@Mr75044 Жыл бұрын
Had both 100w Marshall MG Best amp best price Loud cuts through live on lead channel.. Line 6 & Roland needed an eq boost pedal.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
👍
@bobobobbybooboo7848
@bobobobbybooboo7848 4 жыл бұрын
I had this korg effects board that was pretty lame. Dont remember its name or what even happened to it, guess i gave it away.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Keep me posted when you remember
@bobobobbybooboo7848
@bobobobbybooboo7848 4 жыл бұрын
I think its a korg A5 guitar multi effects. It seems like it gets good reviews but at 16 yrs old, i kinda hated it.
@mikehydropneumatic2583
@mikehydropneumatic2583 3 жыл бұрын
Got a Marshall DSL1 (full tube) combo but same size and with Celestion (not hardwired speaker). This me out of Polka.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Heavy Polka!
@mikehydropneumatic2583
@mikehydropneumatic2583 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz I was kicked out of the imaginary Polka band.
@mikehydropneumatic2583
@mikehydropneumatic2583 3 жыл бұрын
This is no joke, still suffering from PPSS (Post Polka Stress Syndrome).
@giordanofox
@giordanofox 4 жыл бұрын
can you make a good gear serie?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that be too obvious? 😅
@giordanofox
@giordanofox 4 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz not if you make it interesting (like story notions and reference etc) 👍 i would love a serie like that
@brandonhicksbeer
@brandonhicksbeer Жыл бұрын
Wayne static gigged with a mg100hdfx. I have one as a backup amp and well just nostalgia I guess. I've never used a line 6 anything however the marshall MG sounds a little splashy. However it's a decent amp.
@brandonhicksbeer
@brandonhicksbeer Жыл бұрын
@@dustytru Wisconsin death trip has aged extremely well in my opinion but like all things it's subjective.
@FlopsyGuitarBunny
@FlopsyGuitarBunny Жыл бұрын
I had the line 6, it sucked big time. So I bought the Spark 40, it sucks even more. So going to try the MG30GFX. Have seen some great reviews on it. Buying it tomorrow so 🤞
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@1337wafflezz
@1337wafflezz 10 ай бұрын
the Spark has a lot of amp models though really it shouldn’t be too hard to find a decent one. If anything plug some good headphones in and it should clean up the sound even more through its very good cab emulation
@joeambly6807
@joeambly6807 5 ай бұрын
If you stopped buying shitty amps you could finally have a decent amp.lmao
@agingmillennialmainer
@agingmillennialmainer 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a behringer V amp
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Great input, thanks!
@agingmillennialmainer
@agingmillennialmainer 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz Thanks. :) it can dirty synth up pretty nicely kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mq6om9ypt92boqs.html
@AreU4Real1
@AreU4Real1 3 жыл бұрын
The Marshall is a great amp.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly usable!
@27retrodaze
@27retrodaze 7 ай бұрын
I have an MGHDFX 100 head... And its an amazing pedal platform using the return of the loop... lmao
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 7 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@elpinchebobbytv8733
@elpinchebobbytv8733 Жыл бұрын
i agree with the combo amps of line 6 but with the heads you can get amazing tones
@elpinchebobbytv8733
@elpinchebobbytv8733 Жыл бұрын
just NEVER use the insane channel, its dirty AF, the metal green light channel tone is the correct one.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@animedaisuke4802
@animedaisuke4802 4 жыл бұрын
Please try reviewing MG15 CDR next time.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
I just put it on my shopping list;)
@robertobryant7778
@robertobryant7778 Жыл бұрын
The 50 watt mg is a good amp with the tube emulator on. Small ones are probably bad.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
👍
@beornthebear.8220
@beornthebear.8220 6 ай бұрын
I like the pic of the RIC 4001 or 4003.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 6 ай бұрын
😀
@beornthebear.8220
@beornthebear.8220 6 ай бұрын
I can see by a closer look that this is an older RIC or has been modified; the pickups and tail/bridge are different. I still love RIC basses.
@redcomn
@redcomn 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you gonna make an intro entirely with electric guitar tho 😅
@chronicalcultivation
@chronicalcultivation 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has owned both an MG and a Spider, the Marshall is vastly superior. The Orange I have now sounds far better than either though.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Love Oranges!
@chronicalcultivation
@chronicalcultivation 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz their Crush series are surprisingly great sounding for being a budget-friendly solid-state unit. There's no modelling with that one, the signal chain is completely analog. The enclosure is super solid too, it has the same feel as the Orange cabs. The 35RT impressed me enough that my first proper tube amp will almost guaranteed be a Micro Dark with a matching Orange 2x12. Their cabs are legendary for a reason.
@AudaciousAce1989
@AudaciousAce1989 2 жыл бұрын
I had an orange amp. Those amps mean business. Even the cheap budget amps seem like a good build quality. The only reason I got rid of it was because it could rock ANY tone EXCEPT those late 80’s hair metal tones, so I bought a MG15DFX and its perfect for those late 80’s hair band sounds that are my absolute favorite
@gentelmanjunkie542
@gentelmanjunkie542 Жыл бұрын
@@AudaciousAce1989 can it do 80s metal like matallica & slayer?
@Rockerrobin
@Rockerrobin 2 жыл бұрын
Really like the mg fx even the small 15w version and spend a lot of money on higher end amps to never achieve the great metal tone they have. The cfx was a bad version on the amp that definitely sucked had the 50w myself and it was nothing like the older model. Its one of dave Simpsons most favorite amps and he's a guitar god in regards to tone. Have also had thr line 6 spyder 15 which definitely deserves a spot on the worst amps ever list.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
True that!
@chadevans72
@chadevans72 2 жыл бұрын
This is funny because I run a a/b box and have a line 6 spider 3 75 watts with my mgfx 100 watts half stack running simontainiously
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@stevenshea990
@stevenshea990 3 жыл бұрын
that 70s Les Paul Recording tho.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great guitar!
@mangoberry2534
@mangoberry2534 3 жыл бұрын
3:21 NO YOU!!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
That's how he rolls😅
@JackBlack444
@JackBlack444 2 жыл бұрын
Marshall MG50GFX bad or?? Anybody?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
I have to check it out!
@soheibkidouche4745
@soheibkidouche4745 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, i never knew that mg is considered shitty amps like line6 😂
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
THX! The unbelievable amount of hatred surprised me, as well...
@soheibkidouche4745
@soheibkidouche4745 4 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz came here from facebook post
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
@@soheibkidouche4745 Welcome! Pleasure!
@warp9988
@warp9988 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Marshall's code were there most hated practice amps
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 4 жыл бұрын
@@warp9988 those came up pretty often in the aftermath of this episode....
@christianarreola9659
@christianarreola9659 2 жыл бұрын
They sound fine lol I people just like to hate things lol doesn’t matter what gear you have if you can play, you can play.
@mxpwr4003
@mxpwr4003 Жыл бұрын
Spiders sounds SO muffled as soon as you want to get distortion out.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Жыл бұрын
True that!
@odinmp5
@odinmp5 3 жыл бұрын
lets say that now i get the line 6 memes...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
They're there for a reason
@Disabledguitarist1985
@Disabledguitarist1985 3 жыл бұрын
What’s considered a good practice amp then ?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe try one of the little Oranges or a Blackstar?
@Disabledguitarist1985
@Disabledguitarist1985 3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioPilz the Marshall and line 6 both sound good. Depending what you are playing . I’ve used line 6 for 15 years and finally made a switch to the marshall MG50fx and it sounds great for a practice amp.
@azmanazmanudin7981
@azmanazmanudin7981 3 жыл бұрын
@@Disabledguitarist1985 hey dude ..agree with u ..Coincidentally..I also used both ...
@Disabledguitarist1985
@Disabledguitarist1985 3 жыл бұрын
@@azmanazmanudin7981 I got a orange rocker 15 and I love it . I have the Marshall for sale now lol. Tube sounds superior
@azmanazmanudin7981
@azmanazmanudin7981 3 жыл бұрын
@@Disabledguitarist1985 woow ... orange is indeed the best too .... maybe I will buy orange later hahahahaha
@loydthabartender5794
@loydthabartender5794 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of like the high gain spider sound. You could record a shitty black metal demo on it
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 жыл бұрын
True that!
@chaggasfernandes
@chaggasfernandes 2 жыл бұрын
The Marshall amp rocks.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly the better option!
@floydhendrix4399
@floydhendrix4399 2 жыл бұрын
Why bad gear? The Marshall MG has no place in bad gear. The Spider is right there, it's really bad. But what do you think makes the MG bad? I have 3 MGs, the MG15 CFX, the MG30CFX and the MG100HCFX and I am more than happy with all 3. I even think the MG100 HCFX is better than my previous bugera tube amp. As I can unconditionally recommend the Marshall MG series. The old MG series (DFX) really wasn't that good, but the new MG series, which can also be seen in the test, is much better. Many probably don't know that there is the new FX series and connect the FX sound with the old FX series
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't hate the gear, I just reflect on people hating it on the internet
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