Bad track in Cleveland Eastside Norfolk Southern rocking on the Silverplate Branch NS 5812

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Bad track in Cleveland Eastside Norfolk Southern rocking on the Silverplate Branch NS 5812

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NS 5812 on Norfolk Southern leads local C46 on the Silverplate branch in Cleveland Ohio. This a former Pennsylvania Railroad branch that had over 20 customers within a mile back in the 1920's. It connected to the PRR mainline at the west end and the NYC at the east end. A 1927 property map shows a 4 stall roundhouse at the west end. I've heard that only the steam engines allowed on here were 0-6-0's and such. Only one customer remains, Cleveland Industrial Warehouse which handles metal products. They switch this customer 3 times a week.
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@thomplacier677 8 ай бұрын

I love your ‘bad rail’ videos and short lines. Thanks for posting these out of the way places.

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, we like to catch moves on rusty rail.

@d.burdett2232 8 ай бұрын

Cool video! That line used to service my dad's old factory, Cleveland Twist Drill, at E. 49th. CTD laid off everyone and moved to Tennessee in the early 80's. The building is being used by a variety of arts and small business concerns. Probably still smells of machine oil and high carbon steel.

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Cool. I have seen a map that showed what businesses owned the adjoining property back in the 1930’s. I didn’t realize they were in business into the 80’s. Be interested to see photos of this line for the 80’s. Someday I’d like to model some of this.

@d.burdett2232 8 ай бұрын

CTD closed this facility in eighty one. I remember it clearly. My dad had worked there over twenty years and now was unemployed. I remember him taking me to the unemployment office. So he could file his monthly report, while I filled out job applications so I could take a job to pay for college. The branch line was in use back then. But the fact we didn't use the siding anymore for deliveries. All their shipments went by truck.

@d.burdett2232 8 ай бұрын

The recession of that period was more like a depression around the great lakes.

@Fishwithadeagle 8 ай бұрын

That cinematography is incredible. Wow

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

@wrfreemo2006 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting this video. Have long looked at these rails and never had the chance to see a train in operation here!

@gerryroncolato8895 8 ай бұрын

Scott, great video. I loved the switching (and the long-lens look down the twisted track)! Details about customers per mile then and now much appreciated as well. My brother and I will be headed to Cleveland 11 or 12 Dec to check out the RR scene there. Your time permitting, any suggestions you might have would be very much appreciated. Thanks again. Gerry

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thank you. They run this line m-w-f in the evening usually between 5-8. I don’t watch too much of the mainline action. CSX runs a local up from Parma to the Clark Yard daily. There’s plenty of spots to see the CRWO working the steel mill on both sides of the river. The CCR and Newburgh both work daily too so they’ll be around. Their in rough neighborhoods but nobody’s bothered me yet…

@vernonmatthews181 8 ай бұрын

Fresh UP Autoracks @ "12:58" is a pleasant surprise 😮 compared to ALL the graffiti 😊

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

They’ve probably been tagged by now

@DruSteel69 8 ай бұрын

Awesome video, Scott. Thanks for sharing the switching and great historical info. Great catches. Have a great weekend.

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! Have a great weekend too!

@DESO718 8 ай бұрын

oh man that's some industrial railroading! love it!

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Yeah every time we’re in Cleveland we check this line out.

@mikekole 8 ай бұрын

That's a great catch! It's been about 25 years since I'd caught action there when returning to Cleveland. I'm just happy to see that it still carries traffic!

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

What was it like 25 years ago, did they have a little more left then?

@erikmcc804 8 ай бұрын

Wow is this Penn Central 2.0 the track remixe😂

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Funny because PC did have control of these tracks.

@jamessimms415 8 ай бұрын

@ 5:50; been awhile since those rails have seen some TLC. Love seeing a rarely seen/covered operations

@kevincrowley4586 8 ай бұрын

What I would call, the Branch PUG - Pick Up Goods. Another interesting video !

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Interesting name for it! Thank you

@abbottshaull9831 8 ай бұрын

That is insane that Class 1 Railroads have tracks that are used regularly in such horrible shape. Sure most of the traffic here appears to local spur line stuff, but each derailment is costly no matter the cost of rerailing a few engines and cars compared to total overall cost.

@Rtzee 8 ай бұрын

Excellent video, down in the slums. Thanks

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thanks. Fun neighborhood to hang around.

@paulbergen9114 8 ай бұрын

That's such a weird picture of all that power and one lonely little salt car. Thanks for the info on the history as it looks like 50 cars should be crammed in every siding. Perfect cars for selling Rust-Oleum but they're well on their way to retirement. Is that the salt loading area directly in front coming from one of those underground domes out in Lake Erie? Nicely done

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

They salt is mined under Lake Erie and loaded direct on train and ship at Cargill.

@wolfgangpfeilergartenbahnd6530 8 ай бұрын

Hello Scott, a very nice video, especially in the most unusual places where there is still rail traffic. A very interesting video, thanks for showing it and best regards from Germany.

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! I try to get the stuff less filmed. More fun for me.

@kennethboehnlein51 8 ай бұрын

Great shot. I love the industrial swicthing.

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, me too

@jims6323 8 ай бұрын

Your telephoto lens makes the track look worse than it really is.

@markrhuett 7 ай бұрын

At around 2:33 I wonder when that abandoned warehouse on the right last saw rail service.

@csxns 8 ай бұрын

Like to see that warehouse rebuilt with boxcars being unloading or loading.

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

There are a bunch of unused loading docks along here. Wish they were used…

@wrfreemo2006 8 ай бұрын

@@ScottTaipaleRail - According to the Sanborn map, that large warehouse used to be the Sears, Roebuck, and Company distribution center.

@fogdan 8 ай бұрын

Very Cool!!!

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@OldcampRanch 8 ай бұрын

That’s crazy 👍🏻

@kurt8986 8 ай бұрын

badass video

@BlackMan614 8 ай бұрын

Your voice-over says salt is in those hoppers - where was that load picked up at? I was wondering why the trainmaster would assign all that power for 3 revenue cars. LOL

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Lol wasn’t really intended as a voice over, I was explaining to my 9 year old that was filming with me. The salt is loaded at the Cargill mine west of the Cuyahoga river here in Cleveland. This local will generally work Cargill, head east to work the silverplate then shove west back to Cargill. I figure the may have had a big train to pull out of there.

@ShawnCalay-hi6gy 8 ай бұрын

Sometimes when your low on time you take what you have and run the branch then when you get back to the rest of your train there is not much make up....

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

@@ShawnCalay-hi6gy yeah I suppose that make sense. Would you happen to know if the C46 runs to ASK Chemicals on the west side? That’s another bit of track we’d like to catch a move on…

@ShawnCalay-hi6gy 8 ай бұрын

@@ScottTaipaleRail don't no....I worked 21 years for Chicago Central, then IC out of Markham IL and Illinois Railnet out of Ottawa Illinois

@grandcrappy 8 ай бұрын

I ike old track still earning revenue.

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

For sure. At least they still have 1 steady customer.

@TheGomes412 8 ай бұрын

Great catch. Interesting operation, and use of center beams. Are those loads loaded on that track they were on, or in a plant somewhere and set there?

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thank you. Their loaded behind us in the scene, at 6:03 Nolan swung the camera around and showed the warehouse. You can look up their website and see photos of their loading area inside the building.

@gusthesheltie154 8 ай бұрын

Wow..,😮

@MNpolarbear 8 ай бұрын

He must cuz, there's someone in the lead loco...unless there is two ppl...one in lead & trailing

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Pretty sure there was only 2 on this crew.

@TheNorthwestWind 8 ай бұрын

3 LOCO? AMAZING

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

They run m/w/f down here, usually sometime between 5-8pm. If there’s loads waiting outside the warehouse I know they’re going to be pulled.

@TheNorthwestWind 8 ай бұрын

Ive seen the loads pretty much every time I go, never caught them though. Did catch some dormant MOW stuff one time, that was it @@ScottTaipaleRail

@AppalachiaRRlover 8 ай бұрын

Awesome video man

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@Afterburner2 8 ай бұрын

Good thing its salt ,i wouldn't want to haul anything toxic thru that mess, good vid, thanks

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thanks! Don’t think they move any hazardous through here.

@reedermh 8 ай бұрын

The ND&W is jealous of someone having worse track than it does.

@maybesomeday2596 8 ай бұрын

The track is totally acceptable for what it’s tasked with.

@sowegarailproductions4089 8 ай бұрын

Awesome stuff! What kind of camera do you use?

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Thank you. Panasonic HC-X1

@PrenticeBoy1688 8 ай бұрын

Cleveland geography isn't my strong suit. How close to Burke Lakefront is this? I'm often nearby.

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Towards the east end of Burke and a couple blocks south of 90. There’s 3 tracks in this neighborhood, the CSX downtown connection, the silverplate and the NS double track main.

@craigzahniser4702 8 ай бұрын

Does the engineer actually leave the cab he was in and go to the opposite train at the end?

@25mfd 8 ай бұрын

nope

@craigzahniser4702 8 ай бұрын

Thanks. Great video!

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Nah he stayed in 5812 and they shoved back west of the Cuyahoga.

@9983sp 8 ай бұрын

Does he have enough power for that car?

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

Better put it in notch 8

@1940limited 8 ай бұрын

What happened to the cars in the beginning over the bad track?

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

They left most of the train at Cargill, not sure why they chose to bring 1 car with them when they were going back to Cargill afterward.

@1940limited 8 ай бұрын

Thanks.@@ScottTaipaleRail

@randyoehling303 Ай бұрын

Sure footed gp50s?

@randyoehling303 Ай бұрын

Ill bet that's a scary place at night.😮

@darrylstone4040 8 ай бұрын

Where is that located at

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

East side of Cleveland. The address of the shipper is 1300 E 45th st if that helps you find the line.

@grandcrappy 8 ай бұрын

Original B&O tracks?

@ScottTaipaleRail 8 ай бұрын

PRR

@grandcrappy 8 ай бұрын

I was switchman at now riot Rail's Kendallville Terminal Ry. in IN. A one mike-ish stretch of ancient Pennsy track, the GR&I, serving still busy Kraft confectionery plant. Corn syrup tanks and covered hopper sugar cars from NS. The old foundry now razed. Ugly bldgs used to be a casket maker and womens' bloomer place. They may be gone too,, it was 2008 when I left.

@TheNorthwestWind 8 ай бұрын

JEALOUS