calling yourself "non-binary" categorizes everyone as binary or non-binary, thus creating a binary system, which makes you binary again

I love how the people who claim to want to NOT be labeled, use the most labels when talking about people they dont like.

That last scene about "better be confused than sure" is the single stupidest thing ive heard in a while, wow, just wow

By attempting to reject labels, they simply create a new one LOL!

If you dont want to live under a label of identity. Saying you are non-binary and making it your entire identity is the ULTIMATE irony.

Lol I love how she’s even a stereotypical woke comedian that preaches and lectures on stage for applause instead of telling jokes for actual laughs.

Rejecting labels because of the "sexist norms" associated with them is sexist. If you don't want to be called a woman because you don't want the norm of "being in the kitchen", then ultimately you believe women should be in the kitchen. Have these individuals tried rejecting the norms instead?

Why is it the people who want to escape labels, the same people who are OBSESSED with labels.

I’m sorry but a parent being corrected by a teacher that their kid changing her name to rock is just boggling

Referring to "non-binary" people by they/them pronouns to please their feelings is like claiming the Earth is flat so as to not offend Flat-Earthers. They're both equally deluded.

I don't really care how people identify because life is too short for that but I have to say I find it rather odd. I'm a man, I'm male and have reached adulthood. I was shaped by certain social and cultural factors. I don't particularly define myself by that and I have rejected many of the stereotypical aspects of masculine identity. I'm no more or less a man as a result, it's simply a facet of who I am. I think it's because we care so much about identity in terms of gender or race that it becomes so important to people. There were and are men and women who really don't identify very strongly with their gender but who also don't see any reason to identify as anything else. I think I comes down to the fact that their idea of an identity is who you are as a person, not the boxes you check when filling out forms. How have you lived? What music do you like? What do you love? What do you believe in? What makes you get up in the morning? These things form a person's identity far more than their gender or sexuality. That's what I think anyway. It's telling that the people who not only see these as part of their identity but as their whole personality are often rather vacuous people.

My jaw is on the floor seeing the clips from the show… what on earth is happening in our society!!?!???!?

Che sounds so so petty and angry with everyone. Like, she identifies as a bad person with the whole "I don't want to explain myself" how do you expect other people to understand you?

Is anyone else creeped out by that parent teacher scene where the teachers basically are like you WILL go along with your childs delusion and we will shame you if you dont

As a female who had feelings for a non-binary person and tried to date them (I feel silly now for even trying), I can say this is all totally correct. It hurts how much I was in Miranda’s shoes but thank god we didn’t end up together. There was no structure and I never felt completely comfortable. I often felt anxious and worried, like I was going to do something wrong. This whole “let’s just see what happens” and “just go with flow” never benefitted me and only made me even more anxious. It felt like this person always assumed the worst of me and didn’t want to be “pushed” into a relationship even though they also wanted it (I think?). I was always in the wrong. Always. I apologized for everything even though this person said I didn’t have apologize to BUT was easily offended and extremely moody. Everything I did was wrong. The pronouns were always wrong. My “assumptions” were always wrong. This person biggest fear was losing people but also kept walls up, keeping people out mentally. They also avoided as much responsibility as possible but expected me to ALWAYS be responsible. Trying to date a non-binary person was one of the most exhausting experiences of my life. I will be friends with them but I will NEVER date one!!! This video totally validated me and my experience.

Che: I'm non binary and I don't like labels Also Che: I was in a 8 month relationship with a STRAIGHT WHITE WOMAN.

“We’re talking about a twelve-year year-old here. Rose would eat ice-cream for every meal if it were up to her.” Well said.

The whole non binary thing is BS! It's all based on gendered stereotypes! I was a total tomboy growing up. I hated anything stereotypically "girly", I still knew I was a girl though. I had loads of Tom boy role models that I admired like George from the famous five etc (I liked old books). A girl can be masculine and reject stereotypes and still be a beautiful girl. A boy can be feminine and reject stereotypes and still be a beautiful boy. By being "non binary " oeople think they are getting away from labels but they are actually buying into them more than the last 2 generations did.

I used to call myself non-binary at around 13-16 (only online, never talked about it IRL). But that's how I thought of myself. For reference I'm a girl and I was born as one. I think the reason I didn't want to be a girl, or especially not a woman, is because I didn't want to be like any of the girls or women I had seen in my life. Pretty much the only people who I looked up to were men. But I didn't want to be a man either. I didn't want to grow up, I didn't want to become a woman like my mom who is a housewife or any other woman I knew or saw even in movies. I think the lie that non-binary sells is that you can become different than the rest of the people with your gender simply by rejecting it. I disliked a lot of women and it's likely because they often don't work as hard - because they're not held to the same standards as men. The solution was to hold myself to those standards despite being a woman. To improve myself, not to try to run from reality. A woman is simply the physical fact of what I am biologically, it's not an identity and it doesn't determine my personality and my values. I'm in college working toward a good stable career, I learned a language, and I'm trying to get more into art. I'm trying to be a respectable person. That's what matters most to me. That's what this was always about. I wanted to run from womanhood because I hated what I saw. But I can hold myself to different standards. And part of the standards I want to hold myself to are being something reliable for other people. And part of that is having values and sticking to something normal and understandable. The fact is, the "manliest" or most respectable thing I can do is embrace being a woman. Not as an "identity" but as a fact of the way I physically am, and the way other people see me. I'm a lot happier with myself now. I'm on the same page with the world and working with what it is, rather than wanting it to change for me.

As someone who used to identify as non-binary for some years, you translated most of my thoughts after leaving the term behind. Just for some context, I was raised by a very feminist solo mom and a family mostly composed by women, so I was always free to do certain things that are considered "girly" by society, though I was a boy. And for me, it was always very clear that gender roles were simply social constructs which changed throughout place and time in the human history, but it was also very hard to ecplain that to others in a society so sexist and binary, so I have been extremely judged and misunderstood by people around me, outside my household. When I decided to identify publically as a non-binary person, I just tried to translate my wish for not being classified by society's ideas of gender, but it turns out things went the other way around, because it came to a point where people were creating new terms and classifications each day, such as "genderqueer", "gender-fluid", etc, which, from my point of view, contradicts the whole purpose of "being non-binary". And also, honestly, when people try to discipline you into "being more masculine/feminine", it's way easier to tell then "I'm actually non-binary" instead of debunking their ideas of gender roles, so I believe that's where a lot of non-binary folks stand by, unfortunately.

Che is a really accurate representation on these ppl. Spiteful, derisive and ungrateful.

We had two they/thems at my last job. It was funny to hear them accidentally mislabel each other. They claim to be this and they can’t even keep it straight themselves.

The million dollar question is: "Is there a part 2 of this video?" because you have hit the bloody nail on the head... 👍👍👍

A major issue for me is that the studies being done have shown if you allow the kids who are questioning their gender tend to grow out of it and the men tend to grow up to be gay men. Frankly it's also to a point where the trans community is bullying the gay community for gay men and gay women having sexual and genital preferences. I can, have, and will accept trans people and use the way they wish to be addressed however they need to stop bullying the "cis" people for being the way they are.

Man, that Jamie Lee Curtis interview boiled my blood. "Oh, you're happy as a cis-gendered individual? Not you're not!" The irony is how judgmental he was while complaining about other people judging him.

Yo, a 12 year old can't vote, drink or drive but they can determine what gender they want to be?😂😂😂

If you want to know what being non binary is about. Ask a non binary person.

The act of not conforming to any group while conforming to a group will never cease to be funny. It was goths when I was a kid and my dad had hippies.

The Che character screams overgrown child. Each time I hear a person talking about being "Non-binary", it's like listening to a clueless 12-year-old.

Just as a side note: any comedy routine where the audience claps and whoops is NOT a comedy show, it's a political rally.

non-binary identities don't nessicarily "destroy" social roles. a parent is a parent. they role is to love, teach, and protect the children they raise, it shouldn't matter the gender. the way you treat a romantic partner or expect to be treated by one shouldn't be determined by your reproductive organs and gender identity, but by what works for you and your partner in a healthy relationship. how much you love your child or how well you care for or support them should not very based on their gender either. and non-binary identities are not even a new concept. many cultures around the world have had concepts around tertiary gender identities of varying kinds that played different social roles through out history. . che is a bad representation of nonbinary folk. what they are, is a representation of a toxic and selfish person looking for anyway to portray themselves as the the main character in their own mind and the victim or matyr when things in their life don't go the way they want. and there are just as many cis and trans folk who can act the same way. that behaviour isn't an inherent part of a specific gender identity (non-binary actually being an umbrella term for any identity that is specifically man or woman which a fairly large spectrum including gender fluid, agender, and 2 spirited). that sort of toxic behaviour really is just an individual's personality. . this seemed like an interesting video essay at first but became fairly clear that it was more of a character break down that focused on the wrong aspect of a character from a show that is honestly pretty satirical and far from realistic or relatable and then cherry picked a irl examples to back up the misguided conclusion. . non-binary identities aren't about finding a way to scream for attention or having an excuse to get the "moral high ground" when misgendered, they're about having a way of trying to put a name to how you feel inside for a sense of clarity within yourself. isn't (or at least shouldn't be) about a performance put on for others but just honesty with your self. for example: someone who is gender fluid will identify as a man some days and a woman other days and will flip flop back and forth. that isn't someone who is trans or confused. gender fluidity is simply have a far more fluid and flexible sense of their own gender identity, but that doesn't mean that person will have multiple personalities, be unfaithful to their partner, or explode at strangers for using the wrong pronoun, it just means their sense of comfort within their own sense of self will change from time to time. a 2 spirited person (which is a very very old for of tertiary gender identity for many north american indigenous groups) is someone with a single identity who has both both binary gender identities (man and woman) at the same time but not mixed together. 2 spirited people have served as important spiritual guides and community pillars for their people for a centuries. agender people feel no connection to the man or woman gender identities and essential have no gender identity. there are also gender identities like the one you mention where people feel like an even mix of both, right in the middle, and non-binary identities where people feel like they are a third gender entirely without feminine or masculine aspects. all of these examples fall under the non-binary umbrella. non-binary identities may affect what clothes or fashions someone feels comfortable or good in, what pro-nouns they feel more comfortable being addressed by, and how they relate to others emotionally. but non-binary identities will NOT affect someone's morals or social behaviours in the way this video suggests. what will affect that is whether someone is just a genuinely shitty person by nature or if a person has had some sort of major trauma that's resulted in mental illness and that person chooses to lash out at others instead of seeking proper professional aid in treating their trauma.

Also, the role of wife as you say in the video, did not change by people who played nice and followed the rules. It changed by people who were willing to live unsafe and push the boundaries, something that was much appreciated by people who were not so brave.

Weaponized victimhood.

For people not wanting to be labeled they’re pretty obsessed with labels and forcing certain language on everyone….

"I have ascended your ones and zeros. I have become something... more.

We've gotten rid of labels and rituals which guide us through life only to end up in a perpetual limbo. No wonder everybody needs a psychiatrist.

Them saying queer discourse is important for people in their 40s and 50s to "rediscover themselves" sounds a lot like a pathetic of coping with a midlife crisis xD

“Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live. It is asking other people to live as one wishes to live.” ― Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man Under Socialism

I don't think you can build a non-binary argument based solely on a tv show that you saw.

How to spot a person to avoid: I'm non binary

As a Gen Xer.. they ruined Sex and the City with these dumb woke storylines.

the writers chose "rock" for a gender ambiguous name and we're not supposed to take it as a joke? edit: jesus christ I did not mean to start a war over the legitimacy of rock as a name. i just thought rock as a name sounded funny. i guess I'm sorry I've never met anyone named rock before...

- Hijra people are a legally recognized third gender in Nepal, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. In India Hijra is an option available to list on legal documents like drivers licenses and passports. - Calalai, Calabai, and Bissu are three separate nonbinary genders recognized by Bugis ethnic group of South Sulawesi, Indonesia. - Muxe in Zapotec cultures in Southern Mexico are considered a third gender - baklâ in the Philippines is a person who was assigned male at birth and has adopted a gender expression that is feminine. They are often considered a third gender - Two-spirit is an umbrella term used by some Indigenous North Americans to describe Native people who fulfill a traditional third-gender social role in their communities. - Fiji has a traditional third-gender population known as vaka sa lewa lewa Every language and culture has a different word for a third gender, and different roles attached to their words. But identities outside of “male is Man” and “female is Woman” exist globally, and have existed since there have been people. And they will continue to exist for as long as there are people. The word “nonbinary” is new, but existence of people who identify with a gender beyond the binary are not. Language changes, roles change, and identity changes. We can either rise to meet these changes or feel threatened by the existence of a different kind of human. All nonbinary people can’t be represented by two poorly written characters on a cash grab nostalgia reboot of an old TV show. Those characters are not real. Historical precedent for the global existence of nonbinary people is. Gender nonconforming people exist. They have existed. And they will continue to. No mater what words we use to describe them.

I've always found the non-binary label strange. As a woman people have said about me that I sometimes act like half a dude. I'm never insulted by it, and even a little proud. In some correspondence I get adressed with Mr. by accident, but I don't care. If you call me mr. or ms. it's all fluff , it''s just language and so are pronouns. Why care about it in the first place? Can't we just be people who just happen to have male or female parts, or maybe even both. Just have your personality and identity. Why does it need al these labels?

God the narcissism of the non binary person in the show

The whole "pronoun" thing is not about respect, but about validation. If you ware confused about who and what you are, then go figure it out and good luck to you. Just don't make the whole of society walk on egg shells around you until you're done.

The vast majority of people I know that are non binary didn't choose that path because of 'labels'. The best way I could describe the situation is someone that is trans (not comfortable with their sex or assigned gender based on their sex) but also not at all comfortable with transitioning and identifying as the opposite sex. They are stuck not feeling great about either. These are people that I know that are grown adults. I have never had someone mad at me for using incorrect pronouns. Sometimes, they don't even correct me and I wish they would as I want to get it right. My 37 years on this earth 1 thing is for sure... brains are wild things. They can cause you to feel 0 empathy, they can make you see things that aren't there, they can make your body move or say things unintentionally, they can cause you to feel perpetual sorrow, and even make you think you are an unlimited amount of different types of people. We have so many variations of people yet we are so obsessed with this. Why do we care so much about this? People have so many opinions on people they have never met and have only seen some dramatized version of them. They, like everyone else are individuals. Some people being crappy while others not. Some being overly emotional (I can't handle all that) while others not. Gender is a social construct like everything else in life. Just as a reminder I am speaking specifically about gender (not sex). This video covers the benefits of non binary in conversation but then completely ignores the overwhelming negative side of it that outweighs anything positive. It is not yet really socially accepted to proclaim you are non-binary. I can not fully understand it because I am not them. I look at the value these people bring to my life and the world and I measure them by that. I could care less about what a person wants me to call them. Same way I feel about religious people. I can not and will never understand how a grown adult can still support religion, but I do not have to be a rude person to someone just because they believe what they believe and I don't understand it. To each their own. Hopefully, eventually more people will come around.

I absolutely hate when people put labels on themselves, just to get attention from people >As a TEACHER... >As a VETERAN... >As a MAN... >As a NON-BINARY PERSON... >As someone who can afford Prada... it's okay to use labels to understand yourself better, but making it others problem when they don't recognize your label is so fucking tiresome and it pisses me off especially with NB people, who, in essence, want to escape the gender realm of roles in society. They want to do what they feel, act how they feel, and not be looked at weirdly, because they don't act as the sex they were born to what Che was doing, was just making up these Peter Pan space for herself, where they could be like Peter Pan, free of all worry of regular, cis people but it really doesn't make sense with the philosophy of abandoning the gender spectrum. I think that being NB is one of the most freeing experiences. Because one can be just a human! Boys who are nail techs, and wear crop tops. Girls who are engineers, and play competitive CoD. Like, none of these make sense to be limited to one gender! Just fuck what people say, and do what gives you joy and honestly, fuck pronouns. He/She/They/It, it doesn't matter. Tell me your god damn name, and let's make ye' old folk contract. Like, in the Rose/Rock plot. If the child wants to be called Rock, whatever. He's a child, and their mother's daughter. The human connection is what matters, and building walls, made off "this is offensive to me" is just tired find a common point of connection, stop being a bitch about stuff, society made up, and be happy

That teacher that says: "In matters such a this, we take our cues from the children"... TO SAY THAT TO PARENTS. To act like the parent HAS to fall in line with the whole non binary delusion even when it goes against their own moral beliefs is so disturbing. And to have that in a tv show that loads of parents will be watching and influencing them??? fuck this man. This is nightmare fuel.

"She's 12, she'd have ice cream for breakfast everyday if she could" that basically sums it up.

I can’t speak for all non-binary people. I can only speak for myself. I don’t describe myself as non-binary because I want to escape labels. I just don’t feel comfortable using the labels “man” or “woman” to describe myself. As a kid growing up I certainly wasn’t aware of gender theory and trans/non-binary was certainly not a part of the discourse back then. However, I still didn’t feel comfortable calling myself a girl or a boy. And believe me, a lot of kids at school would ask me which one I was and I never knew how to answer. Finding the term “non-binary” in my early adulthood was a godsend because I finally had a label I felt accurately described me. This video assumes a lot about a whole population of people.

I like how the dad says “she would eat ice cream every day if she was allowed to” and that argument is just completely ignored when it is in fact a valid argument. Kids need guidance. We all had some stupid ideas and those of us with good parents were told how stupid they were albeit in a nice way.

They’re so “individualized” that they’ve managed to create an entirely new stereotype. Congrats on them. 💀🎉

people who know they're not interesting or special seek ways to make themselves feel special by resorting to things like identifying themselves as they/them. all of a sudden they're special in the eyes of the internet.

In all seriousness, when I see interviews by those how identify as non binary I always here “ I never thought like a man or a woman” to which I would like to ask “what do you believe a normal thinking man or woman think like?”. The statements they say in interviews are always very vague and non specific, but also never really challenged. And when I say “challenged” I don’t mean to belittle, attack or go on defense, but rather to help explain their position in a way that isn’t ambiguous. Also to be so consumed with gender ideology and social politics, you loose so much growth within yourself. How can you discover who you are, when you’re so consumed with going against societal norms, just cause. Being against something or a label without ever really understanding it or trying to is beyond foolish.

There's no way to escape identification, just like there's no way to escape time. There's also no way to prevent others to think about you in certain terms. You can do whatever you want with your life, at any time, in theory. But if you don't want to people to think you're an overweight woman, your options are limited. That does not mean you can't change, but it's mostly up to you to change yourself and try to make others change how they see you.

Absolutely fascinating how in trying to portray them “accurately” we are simply shown how utterly self centered these people are. Their lives revolve around their identity and, thus, themselves.

These sex and the city clips are INSANE. You will never convince me that a child came up with the idea that they are another gender or no gender at all on their own. And you definitely will never convince me that it was also a child's idea to change their identity at school and then hide it from their parents on their own. This shit is downright terrifying.

People who reject labels seem to generally be overly concerned with labels, have a propensity for labeling, focused on ostentatious behavior and appearances, and sometimes (but not always) seem more insecure than the average person who really is just living their life without focusing on such things at all. I can be labeled as a multitude of things every day but I really don't think about it, my interest, intentions, and aspirations are what's on my mind and those largely don't change if anything superficial about me does or how I'm perceived, I simply rather don't need the attention or have anything to prove to others

I would like to thank you because someone finally speaks what I am thinking about social rules being there for a reason

4:17 "I'm only 13 can't I just be me" Proceeds to try and make life altering decisions the adults must go along with otherwise they're bigots

So are we supposed to feel pity for the 50 year old woman who left her loving family to be with a woman who is just as confused about who she is?? And then ends up even more confused because she’s trying to understand chae, but chae doesn’t even understand herself

I at 62 find this all so entertaining. That we would spend any time in discussion is absurd. We can't just accept each other as people? I am so, so glad to see young people becoming more freed! My daugther and I are both Bi- and I NEVER said it or acted upon etc. She HAS and she has had relationsips with both menand women and I am so glad she can enjoy all possible relationships. It is SO hard to find connection at all, that we should charish it whatever the form in which it comes into our lives! I wish I was born a bit later....IO missed out on so much.

The price of freedom is responsibility, the ones whom are free with their agency are those whom are the most responsible. Wisdom teaches that societies must have that which is forbidden for them.

the way the teacher put "rocks" FATHER in his place - by overruling what he wanted over his 12 year old girl. is just something that HURT to see. because it is happening in real life. kids get to say things in school and the teacher approves and FORCE the parent without their consent to do what their child says. it is disgusting

Non-binary: I don’t like label Also non-binary: I identified as non-binary

Acceptance of LGBT is acceptance of Non-Binary. So accept it.

What I personally dislike most about the Non-binary gender movement, applies to your first point. "I don't want to be limited by being a man or a woman." -- I'm sorry they/them, but I've spent 30 years proving that the fact that I am a woman *does not* limit me. I don't have to fit stereotypical gender roles. In fact, I don't. I am gender non-conforming. Doesn't take away my womanhood or femineity. I am also assertively aggressive and confrontational and competitive - all masculine traits - but they don't make me not a woman any more. The whole point of breaking down gender norms was to prove men and women can be absolutely anything they want to be, without any limits. But now you have "NB" people wandering around trying to tell me I can't be a woman because I'm not a stereotypical woman. I'm not a Barbie doll, so I can't be female. I hate it. I absolutely despise it.

Here's how to truly live outside the label. Stop seeing everything "gendered" and needing to tell society sbout your pronouns.

Imagine correcting a parent about *Their own damn child's name*

6:52 I genuinely would like to know: why so many LGBT people act like this? With that "main character syndrome"? Thinking the whole world is like "The Truman Show" and they are the protagonists? Like if *every* bit of antagonism they face is just people "hating" them because they identify as queer/genderfluid/non-binary/any other fancy stuff? This guy feels like he just lives roleplaying 24/7.

Hi actual human who identifies as Non Binary here... A. Che Diaz is a terrible depiction of being Non Binary and should not be used as an example for everyone, highly encourage you to find real people who have lived experiences B. How does my identify inconvenient you in anyway? If your friend suddenly said they'd rather you call them by their nickname instead of real name... wouldn't you just call them that out of sheer decency? Also notice how ive casually been using non gendered terms...

"How toxic can a person be?" Che:"Yes"

Well. That J character is convincingly portrait as needy, selfish, self-absorbed, uncompassionate, cruel and dismissive of others. If the showrunners wanted me to like the character they failed. I would classify them as a supermassive a hole.

Acknowledging your sex or the sex of your significant other (I will never get on board with the "partner" label for those you're in a relationship with because it makes relationships sound like a business arrangement and reduces the person or yourself to a coworker or anyone you do non-romantic things with) is NOT archaic. Sex is biological and has always existed and there have been words for the different sexes since language developed. I am a "cis" woman who is only attracted to "cis" men. I would be his girlfriend until we married, at which case I would become an his wife. I see people saying the terms "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" are "juvenile," but people literally used those terms for unmarried couples, regardless of their age or how long they'd been together, for YEARS. There's literally no reason to change it now. Thinking those terms are "archaic" or "juvenile" just proves how pretentious and obsessed with appearances people are. If you have to call yourselves "partners" to "prove" to yourselves and others that you're equal, you're not equal. I have also had some moron call me "homophobic" for hating the terms "partner/partnership" applied to relationships, but those terms actually stem from homophobia, as gay couples only used those terms because they weren't allowed to get married and homophobes didn't take their relationships seriously. They felt they couldn't use the terms straight people use in relationships, so they applied "partner/partnership" to their relationships to make people see their relationship as serious as those who own businesses together.

Hi! I'm a cis woman who has dated/is into NB/genderfluid people and I'd just like to give my 2 cents on the topic: I appreciate the eloquence of the video, its very well made

The problem started when "being mentally ill" became considered as "expressing yourself".

If you want to pretend to be someone you're not, that's up to you. If you want me to play along in that pretend game, that's up to me.

3:33 Actually, this is a very illustrative scene. Some people are afraid that young people are too young to choose their gender, but at the same time they think that they're old enough to choose their religion, or better said, the religion that their parents imposed on them.

The problem is that it MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.

When I was a child I wanted to be a Ninja Turtle; I was lucky this was more than 20 years ago otherwise in this "supporting" society I would have been thrown down the sewers to realize my identity needs.

Baggage Claim, "And in this way, being non-binary serves as a mechanism to avoid taking responsibility, avoid consequences, and most importantly, avoid growing up." Truer words have never been spoken. Spot on.💯

Just a cautionary note, using sex and the city as a representation of anything that goes on in the real world is a recipe for disaster. The very first episode of the TV show when it aired questioned the existence of bisexual people in exactly the way you're questioning now. I'm non-binary and I fall into one of the two main camps that I've noticed: in my case I really really like gender. I like masculine and feminine representations and I take what I like from both. The other camp really really doesn't relate to gender representations or feel themselves particularly gendered (more of a void). The important thing to remember is that being non-binary is about how you feel about your identity and how you live your life, it's not in general an academic or intellectual position. If your response to not relating to constrictive gender roles is to say "we should tear down gender roles as such", well that's perfectly reasonable. Many people may not feel the identity of non-binary as being meaningful if the intensity with which gender roles are enforced drastically decreases, and that would be fine, maybe even great. Happy to answer any questions! And here's one for you: what kind of feeling does it bring up for you when you imagine someone in your life telling you they're non-binary when you always saw them as just more of a rebel with respect to gender or gender roles? Thanks!

Who the hell spends an hour of their free time watching this?

It took a group of strangers 1 hour to ruin her entire identity.....she actually admitted that 😂😂😂😂😂

The composer Claude Debussy was criticized by his teachers and some critics for his "crazy" musical ideas. But while he broke traditional Western musical rules, he learned them all first, and broke the rules in very thoughtful and meaningful ways to create a whole new musical voice. He didn't just throw all the rules out and start writing random notes (like the Second Viennese School did with their 12-tone serial crap).

I think it's worth talking directly to non-binary people about their experience. Part of this video debates whether it is better to remain uncertain and able to explore potential vs. being certain and able to build around that certainty. The core issue for non-binary people is that they cannot comfortably conform to the identity of "woman" or "man". It took me a while to understand that this is different from the usual issue of cis men and women struggling with gender conformity - "am I feminine enough, am I masculine enough?" You can have that struggle and still at core think that "she" or "he" fits you, so it makes sense to build on that certainty. Non-binary people on the other hand might feel that "he" and "she" don't relate to them at all, so there's no certainty to build on. My point is that just because some people don't find that the binary fits, doesn't mean that all people have to be in a state of flux. The fact that someone is non-binary doesn't require anyone else to change their identity. So I'd suggest that it makes sense to be live-and-let-live, a la "Some people are gay, get over it". Che is a specific case where there's a lot more going on than just non-binary identity. They're a minor celebrity, and celebrity brings with it issues of lack of privacy, and neglect of the people close to you in favour of your audience. They might use fluidity and radical acceptance of who they are as an excuse for hurting people, while another person might use their commitment to their art as an excuse. I think it's a mischaracterisation to suggest that people would be non-binary because they can attract more attention that way, or so that they can avoid responsibility because they can't be held to any norms of behaviour. There are non-binary people like that, but there are people of every variety who are like that. If you shone a spotlight on anyone you'd see the ways that they dodge responsibility or play up for attention. Especially on social media - e.g. clips of Karens, nice-guys and entitled parents.

Non-binary just means you don’t identify as either of the western Christian binary genders. I, as a Native Hawaiian, identify as Māhū, a third-gender (essentially trans) identity that has been a part of Hawaiian culture for hundreds of years. I also identify as non-binary, as Māhū is not recognized by the MAJORITY of western society, and I don’t feel like having to explain a part of my heritage every time someone decides to play Professor Oak. When American illegally annexed Hawai’i, my ancestors were forced to submit to western Christian ideology, the banning of their language, dance, genders, anything that the missionaries decided was “blasphemous.” This experience was shared across the globe by cultures labeled as “savage” and “primitive” because nations like the UK and the US decided they needed to be “cleansed.” Queer people like me wouldn’t be in this position in the first place if western society hadn’t been trying to erase us for the last 200+ years.

The most pathetic thing about this condition is that the more you try to escape responsibility, the more you expect it in others. You want others to be good to you while you decide on what it means to be good.

I don't play this "preferred pronoun" bullshit game. If I talk to a person, I address this person as "you". If I talk about a person in their absence, it's completely irrelevant, what this person thinks to identify as...

Have you considered talking to actual non-binary people and hearing their experiences and not make a whole essay based on the stereotypes portrayed by a TV character? Would you consider any female or male character in this series an accurate representation of a man or a woman and not a charicature?

"Never be certain of anything. It's a sign of weakness." - Tom Baker as Doctor Who

Che is the most toxic and disgusting character in AJLT. So cringey, so annoying.

Che saying its better to be unsure because if you're sure then there's no room to change is completely idiotic. You can be sure of who you are at one point in time and grow and mature and be different at another point of your life... Maybe not a completely different person, but different. Also, being in that constant state of figuring out who they are sounds like torture. I can't imagine living a life where all I think about is my gender or lack there of. I have other things to do in life.

You all don't understand that you can't break out a system without referring to it. You got called out and you don't even realize it.

I had no idea you had youtube videos in the 1500's

Non-binary is an easy way to differentiate yourself from the pack without requiring learning unique skills, acquiring knowledge, developing interests, or putting any actual work into an identity that will make you unique.

I really have a hard time understanding non-binary people. They refuse gender stereotypes and the roles in society, yet it seems to me that they literally obsess over both. I am 35 and I am sure I never thought about gender as much as most non binary people. I am not a girly girl, rarely wear makeup or style my hair, and this has never been a problem. For anyone. Probably teenagers are confused and do not know how to be a man or a woman in a society that is already so confused: I would say to them that there is not one way to be a man or a woman, and they can find the best way for them. Non binary adults... I would say they have some problems. First and foremost, immaturity.

When I was young I was a goth- modeled myself more like Andrew Eldritch or Carl McCoy than the traditional goth look, but hoop earrings and thick eyeliner were staples and things that had you asked me then if I was willing to make those permanent, I would have said yes. I can’t tell you how much I cringe when I look back at pictures of myself in those days. Thing is. We see that same folly of youth in kids today and while there are still exceptions- I still see 40yo goths with thinning Robert Smith mops and bags darker than the eyeliner, but they are rare. In other words, many of us understand this may be a life decision for some, but for MOST it’s a trend. It’s an act of rebellion. So if the LGBTQ community left it at that, of course there’s going to be pushback by some, but most are willing to live and let live- but they refuse to stop there. For some reason they are targeting the children and THAT is where we have to step in and fight back. Until at least 18, but ideally 25, ANY life altering decisions should be avoided at all costs.

Using just one character in a television show isn't an accurate representation of nonbinary people as a whole. Also being nonbinary isn't a means to avoid authority or responsibilities. It's just who someone is.