Bailess Fishing Reels? Non-Stop Bass But No Visible Clues.

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John Skinner Fishing

John Skinner Fishing

4 жыл бұрын

Striped bass on most casts while beach fishing provides the background for an explanation of why bailess fishing reels are becoming the choice of many anglers.
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@jefemaximo2537
@jefemaximo2537 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I’ve been converting my surf reels to bail-less for years - even those without a kit. Manual bails can work OK, but even those can get tripped accidentally, and they still trap sand as you mentioned.
@theluvyoumake
@theluvyoumake 4 жыл бұрын
Cannot express how much I love your videos they are very educational
@robertlucas8104
@robertlucas8104 4 жыл бұрын
The 70/30 split is my preference, like how the tsunami trophy II and airwave elite are made. It’s also a no brainer for portability. Automatic trip bails are at fault for bad casts and even missed lures! Manual bails or bailless is awesome. I’m glad most surf reels can be converted.
@timmoores1124
@timmoores1124 4 жыл бұрын
Started striper fishing the Saco river 3 years ago. Have learned a lot from watching your videos. Now have 3 setups ,1 for bait and 2 for surf and river. Have the Penn 4500bls on a Tsunami Airwave Elite 9'6" works great and a Daiwa BG4000 on a St. Croix Mojo Surf 8'. Spro 1-2 1/4 oz. white bucktails with trailer were very good to me this past season. 2 weekend outings, about 16 hrs total, caught 109 between 18 and 27 inches. (24 were caught on a popper) would have increased my catch if I'd switched to the bucktail sooner. Anyway, thanks for the educating videos. Tim
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Nice action! Sounds like a good fishery up there.
@Luke-do1ek
@Luke-do1ek 4 жыл бұрын
how do you like the tsunami airwave elite 9'6 with the penn 4500bls- i was bouncing between the 5500 and 4500 for that rod
@usobninja14
@usobninja14 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your take on the 70/30 split, never really knew the benefit of it and alway thought it was slightly a pain in the ass compared to a 50/50 split, definitely going to go into my next rod purchase with a different way of thinking, thank you for the explanation and another phenomenal video mr skinner, tight lines and I hope u have yourself a safe, happy and healthy off season
@thomastuorto9929
@thomastuorto9929 4 жыл бұрын
I have a ST. Croix Ben Doer reel with a 70/30 split & that baby cast a country mile. If you have a small car it can be a pain but, the cast makes up for it.
@thomastuorto9929
@thomastuorto9929 4 жыл бұрын
Have that reel in your link. Haven't put it n a rd yet. Was looking for the 5500 but the tackle shop said it wasn't made in that size. I'll have to look into it. After loosing $30.00 of lures in 20 minutes from the bail closing on the cast a couple a years ago(shimano stradic) I'm starting to switch all my non boat saltwater gear reels to bailless. As always , great vid.
@meatloafmzmfei5189
@meatloafmzmfei5189 3 жыл бұрын
at 7:57 a fish swam by , how did you not see that! lol
@robertk28k29
@robertk28k29 4 жыл бұрын
Great. Video .. going to try the bail less reel I just bought the tsunami shield it was like $104.00 love the reel
@morrobayfishing5515
@morrobayfishing5515 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a new rod and reel.. Can't wait to try it.
@ronsilverbach2153
@ronsilverbach2153 4 жыл бұрын
Big John, you’re the man!!!
@micheltremblay4774
@micheltremblay4774 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John for the bailess reel run through. I have not seen one in store or in use here, I guess no one bought in the reel with the missing part and stores don't stock them. Merry XMas to all.
@someguy5543
@someguy5543 4 жыл бұрын
Forty years ago my friend Bruce who was a Montauk pin hooker told me about bail less reels. Still have my 704 Pen set up that way. Not sure if Pen still sells the kits. Definitely save a lot of break offs
@jeffloewi5632
@jeffloewi5632 4 жыл бұрын
I heard a report on local radio last week, might have been WLNG, that the blue fish were down close to 70% this year and that there are plans to great amend the catch guidelines.
@farooqpervez2426
@farooqpervez2426 2 жыл бұрын
I was really frustrated with the smoothness of this reel meaning it would keep spinning and kept catching the line until I watched this video. Now I'm going to pack it up with grease as you mentioned and hopefully it would stop spinning. Never happened with the earlier models. Thanks for the much needed tip and now I don'[t have to get a Van Staal out of frustration.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed on that issue with the latest version. Another reel you might consider is the Tsunami SaltX. They come with an easy manual conversion kit.
@geekbitsTube
@geekbitsTube 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Thanks for the vids. I really like this reel but I've been having this issue as well. Sorry, I'm a newbie, when you say pack it with grease, where and how much? Is there a grease you recommend?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 2 жыл бұрын
@@geekbitsTube Trailer bearing grease.
@intoafrica5241
@intoafrica5241 4 жыл бұрын
What reel is that? Very nice nice video and informative.thanx
@leepetrenka
@leepetrenka Жыл бұрын
Have a 8'6 Trophy 2 with a 4500 Fierce 3 reel and its been a great combo! I'm looking to pick up the 10' MH model to toss some larger plugs/chunks do you think the 6500 bailess model would be a good match? or would the 4500 model be a better fit. Looking to try a bailess reel but don't have a need or budget for the VanStaal.
@archieoutdoors1776
@archieoutdoors1776 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the 4500 bailess from J&H
@tylercahill7859
@tylercahill7859 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a reel grease and cleaning video if you havent?
@sk8erz1579
@sk8erz1579 4 жыл бұрын
Hey John. I was wondering which 10’ Lamiglass blank you had originally before it broke into the legendary “skinner rod”?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
GSB1201L
@nicholasvolino4406
@nicholasvolino4406 2 жыл бұрын
7:57 that bunker is like john please save me
@theotherfinnegan9955
@theotherfinnegan9955 4 жыл бұрын
great vid
@josebordonada9180
@josebordonada9180 4 жыл бұрын
John I just buy me pann bailess reel 6500 an d my line got cut in the roller I going to do what u just said in ur video put some heavy grease in it to slow down the roller . Thank u , happy father's day John. 🦈🐠🐟
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Really pack it with something like trailer bearing grease.
@bobbyburke121
@bobbyburke121 4 жыл бұрын
Hey John Skinner another great video I have question about the waders i see you like the frog togs alot wasa wondering what do you prefer the stocking foot or Boot foot what would you say are the pros and cons in your option.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
If you're fishing sand, you really need to go bootfoot else the sand works in between the wading shoe and stockingfoot and wears out the foot prematurely. Bootfoot is generally the best choice, unless you need traction, in which case stockingfoot and something like spiked felt wading shoes are what I'd go for.
@smokster0604
@smokster0604 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my penn bailess 450 spinfisher 6
@danbolton3180
@danbolton3180 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever been to the Lamiglas factory in Woodland?
@robertyacoub9705
@robertyacoub9705 4 жыл бұрын
So mid November still has bass from the surf on the North Shore? Obviously. Been concentrating on the western South Shore this first year of surf fishing. Been pretty good but sometimes I don’t feel like being pounded by waves and would really like to learn the subtleties of using the bucktail in calmer water, but still have a shot at catching fish. Would you say you were mid Island or pretty far east? I’m assuming you don’t venture too far west.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but the mid to eastern South Shore was better than the North Shore in mid-November.
@jefferyduran9852
@jefferyduran9852 4 жыл бұрын
John, why the 6k and not the 4k on the Salt X? Hmmmm....
@georgezgreek
@georgezgreek 3 жыл бұрын
What size line and leader you using John ?
@robertyacoub9705
@robertyacoub9705 4 жыл бұрын
Also John been wondering if you have any experience with the long cast models of the Spinfisher.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
no experience
@tomporgy1143
@tomporgy1143 4 жыл бұрын
John Skinner Fishing Lucky 🍀 U! Lol 😂
@timrudy4359
@timrudy4359 4 жыл бұрын
John, you mentioned rigged eels. Could you do a video of you rigging and using eels? I think it would be an awesome and different video than you usually put out. Also, I’ve had a lot of success with the smiling bill jigs this year down in south jersey.
@PeterRanieriII
@PeterRanieriII 4 жыл бұрын
look at his older videos with eels. he has many of them kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJaYdLOFxJrImGg.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jKtpictjnMitp2w.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbGfoLmQy9PKfp8.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h62ofZCitdDFfpc.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frF7d9xjrp6wcas.html
@SouthForkSalt
@SouthForkSalt 4 жыл бұрын
hey Tim, John's got both of those videos up and running. google his name and rigged eel and you'll find it! I used his video to make my own riggies. It's a great tutorial! -Tim
@timrudy4359
@timrudy4359 4 жыл бұрын
South Fork Salt awesome thanks man! Tight lines
@Murdachevy
@Murdachevy Жыл бұрын
Hey John I’m thinking of paring one of these spinfisher 4500 vi with your new dark matter 9’2 rod any insight ? Fishing from the south Jersey surf and sod banks this would be my first striper setup thanks
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing Жыл бұрын
I'd rather see a 5500 on the 9'2''. If you're just fishing sod banks, the 8-footer would be a good match to the 4500. If you're also going to fish the ocean, then the 9'2'' is a better choice. here's the 8'. bit.ly/3Guuvu3
@jdmmarcelo10
@jdmmarcelo10 4 жыл бұрын
John at 13:48 on the bottom left is the fish swimming to shore maybe a small bass ?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
adult bunker
@theseptopus
@theseptopus 3 жыл бұрын
Hey John, As always, a wonderfully informative video. I recently picked up a Tsunami Trophy II 10' rod. Would you recommend cutting the butt down on this rod the same way you did with the Lamiglas? Or would there be a reason to not do that on this rod? Thanks in advance!
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 3 жыл бұрын
I did not cut a lamiglas rod, I cut a blank and built a rod on that. This rod is great as-is. Definitely do not cut.
@theseptopus
@theseptopus 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Ah, understood. Thanks!
@RLFore
@RLFore 3 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Howe, what reel and size of the reel did you pair with the Trophy II 10’?
@theseptopus
@theseptopus 3 жыл бұрын
@@RLFore Van Staal VS200 bailess I inherited from my father
@l.i.archer5379
@l.i.archer5379 4 жыл бұрын
When the John Skinner rods first came out 2 years ago, I asked the rep if there were plans for a 2-piece version. Well, here it is, but at $329.99, I'll stick with the Tsunami Trophy II rods for a whole lot less.
@fishnewhere387
@fishnewhere387 4 жыл бұрын
Lamiglass rods are alot of things but they are not cheap.
@bradstrand9810
@bradstrand9810 4 жыл бұрын
$399!
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
If you found it for $329, that's a good price. Lamiglas GSBs run something like $380-$450ish.
@johnhhh71391
@johnhhh71391 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to change my one piece 9foot lamiglas rod into a 2 piece?
@josephalibali194
@josephalibali194 4 жыл бұрын
So in cases with rocky bottoms you should not bounce the bucktail off the bottom? I thought the idea was to have it at the bottom regardless of sand/rock
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I never in any situation intentionally bounce a bucktail on the bottom. I swim or glide it close to the bottom.
@xxxnimbusxxx
@xxxnimbusxxx 4 жыл бұрын
How are the ssvi reels holding up for you? I’m on the fence about getting a 6500BLS.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, as was the older Spinfisher V bailess. These are among the best surf reels for the money.
@xxxnimbusxxx
@xxxnimbusxxx 4 жыл бұрын
John Skinner Fishing Awesome! Thanks for the info and of course all the informative content! Have a great holiday season!
@iulianburlacu
@iulianburlacu 6 ай бұрын
Im guessing with this bailless reel we are not suppose to get any slack? Or you'll be forced to put the line on the roller while fighting the fish?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 6 ай бұрын
I've fished bail-less all my life and the line has never come off the roller accidentally while fishing. I can see why you might think that though.
@jeanday303
@jeanday303 4 жыл бұрын
In my experience with bailess reels, I've lost a few plugs on the cast because the line gets caught in the roller.....Should the roller be in any specific position before the cast?
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
That should only happen if the rotor comes around on its own when you wind up to cast. If that's happening, try packing the gearcase with heavy grease.
@jeanday303
@jeanday303 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Thanks.....
@ThePolabola
@ThePolabola 4 жыл бұрын
“reel in the perfect pic and email me a file so i can respond to it to make you a cinephile” - cel
@anthonydelanzo4249
@anthonydelanzo4249 4 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed
@CDotFromJerz
@CDotFromJerz 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a fish swimming at your side at the 8 minute mark? Or is it some seaweed with good action? Lol
@CDotFromJerz
@CDotFromJerz 4 жыл бұрын
Nevermind. Just heard ur explanation lol
@moddkilla
@moddkilla Жыл бұрын
Man I gotta get another penn spinfisher. I’m done with this tsunami salt x
@shanedanforth835
@shanedanforth835 2 жыл бұрын
Mr.Skinner the roller on mine is loose and I don’t know how to fix it, I’ve tried tightening the screw but that didn’t work, do you know what can help fix it
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by loose. It's supposed to spin.
@shanedanforth835
@shanedanforth835 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing the part that you place the line back onto so you can reel the lure back in. It’s able to move side to side and I don’t know if that is normal
@KA-hd6mi
@KA-hd6mi 4 жыл бұрын
Which grease do you use? I filled gearbox with Penn blue grease and it turns black and oozes out main shaft hole in rotor under spool. Also is the 4500 or 6500 a better match for ocean surf with 9 foot rod? Thank you John great videos
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Ocean surf and a 9-footer I'd use a 6500, especially the gsbskinner. The ideal size is probably a 5500. I use trailer axel grease.
@Legnerps
@Legnerps 4 жыл бұрын
Horton's Point ?
@GrumpyChickenHeart
@GrumpyChickenHeart 4 жыл бұрын
John, FYI, your link to wading shoes leads to 404 page not found on J and H. Still going after my first Striper from surf.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Fixed.
@notablecatch
@notablecatch 4 жыл бұрын
👍 This is GrumpyChickenHeart. I use this ID for fishing. Glad to see your reply on my first post here. :) Thank you for all of you videos.
@mike2200
@mike2200 4 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why the other GSB rods are still 50/50,I'm thinking about having a builder turn a one peice in to a 70/30.
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
They tried that with this one, but I rejected it. It just didn't feel the way this rod should. I told them to try 70/30 on it and they got it right.
@mike2200
@mike2200 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing Thanks for the reply,you saved me from ruining a rod!
@coreyarendt7289
@coreyarendt7289 4 жыл бұрын
Could it be possible fishing striped bass off a jetty using the same type of bucktails would it work to catch striped bass off a jetty I live in Oregon and we get striped bass coming in our bays and rivers like February and March Spring Run then we get a full run like october-november on the Oregon coast
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. I didn't know they were in Oregon. Yes - definitely bucktails will work for stripers in any situation.
@richardjohnson33755
@richardjohnson33755 4 жыл бұрын
the better I get with bucktails and jig heads the more I believe it’s the weight of the lure that matters most to me. If I have the right weight I can control everything else. retrieve speed, action, profile. All follow suite. I can, most of the time lol, zero right in on fish in many different spots and situations if the weight of my lure is correct for the application I’m fishing and fish are around chances are I’m getting one.
@ZampostOk
@ZampostOk 2 жыл бұрын
So what’s the best weight to go with? I had luck with 2oz. Is that too heavy? Any particular color? Can you give some advice? Lol
@richardjohnson33755
@richardjohnson33755 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZampostOk for me here in south jersey 1/2oz is the perfect size is 90% of the applications. And as far as color white is the only color that matters
@Quagula
@Quagula 3 жыл бұрын
I catch one striper a year......
@robertwren8878
@robertwren8878 4 жыл бұрын
Good if the lines tight,but if you fish a slack line in a wind and your not watching! Half a spool of line off the reel and knotted,that's why you have a bail arm,in any case don't you think this idea was thought about before you were born by all reel makers ? Wonder why they never took it up then 😂😂😂😂
@ureasmith3049
@ureasmith3049 11 ай бұрын
You'd think bailess reels would be less expensive.
@frankleon6708
@frankleon6708 2 жыл бұрын
What lb braid u use
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 2 жыл бұрын
20 and 30.
@frankleon6708
@frankleon6708 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSkinnerFishing is fifteen still good on the 4500 vi
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 2 жыл бұрын
With the right skill level and drag setting.
@lourod9452
@lourod9452 4 жыл бұрын
John Skinner make it look so easy, 12 out of 10 you're not going to catch any fish. You have to have a spot already that you know for sure there's fish in that place other than that it's not going to work!
@JohnSkinnerFishing
@JohnSkinnerFishing 4 жыл бұрын
The one and only time I fished this spot this season. I fished it once last season under similar conditions and did well too.
@jacobmccandles1767
@jacobmccandles1767 4 жыл бұрын
I would literally invent the bail to correct this....lol
@jahmathes221
@jahmathes221 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine getting a fish literally every cast
@stateniland
@stateniland 4 жыл бұрын
Just tape that index finger.. the rest will come with a little practice. The bail is the weakest link on all reels.. doing away with it and you will never want one again.
@anthonydelanzo4249
@anthonydelanzo4249 4 жыл бұрын
In case of immature bail trip or bail fails on you
@Brianletiecq
@Brianletiecq 4 жыл бұрын
sorry!! I did not know
@huckfin1100
@huckfin1100 4 жыл бұрын
I would never go bailess !
@Brianletiecq
@Brianletiecq 4 жыл бұрын
where in long island
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