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'Baker Mayfield pigeonholed himself!' Should the QB feel disrespected?! | First Take

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The First Take panel discuss if Baker Mayfield should feel disrespected throughout his career. Mayfield recently signed a 3-year/$100M deal with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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@someperson8151
@someperson8151 Ай бұрын
First 3 years: Trevor Lawrence 58 TDs, 39 Int, 1-1 in playoffs. Highest paid QB. Baker Mayfield 75 TDs, 43 Int, 1-1 in playoffs. No contract extension. Baker is disrespected.
@kingbert9260
@kingbert9260 Ай бұрын
Baker sign a contract this offseason
@RebelSoul_
@RebelSoul_ Ай бұрын
Good except bake is 2 for 2 in the playoffs
@tylertalley7198
@tylertalley7198 24 күн бұрын
@@RebelSoul_it’s a first 3 years comparison. He’s 2-2 now. But he was also 1-1 in his first 3 years
@mr.hulotsholiday
@mr.hulotsholiday 23 күн бұрын
Every qb and every player is disrespected to a certain extent unless they win the super bowl.
@tylertalley7198
@tylertalley7198 23 күн бұрын
@@mr.hulotsholiday I get that I think the difference is with baker like in this clip they are gonna say things like the browns and the panthers gave him away and that you don’t give up talent in the nfl. Even thought they fail to mention that the browns and the panthers are dumpster fires that give away top talent all the time because they are terribly ran franchises
@paulietaliho3947
@paulietaliho3947 Ай бұрын
Rams coach did Not get rid of him...he was there to cover Stafford. C'mon
@kreed4480
@kreed4480 Ай бұрын
absolutely. Mcvay is to be given a ton of credit for granting Mayfield the opps to shine and continue his career.
@jamiehill854
@jamiehill854 Ай бұрын
Mad dog is an idiot
@BeReal918
@BeReal918 Ай бұрын
​@@kreed4480 As the cool kids say: _Real recognizes real!_
@lionsfan3581
@lionsfan3581 13 күн бұрын
The guy who said that is clearly brain dead because patient with him lol
@codywhite2390
@codywhite2390 Ай бұрын
Tampa local here, Baker is our QB he found a home in Tampa because we embraced him as he is. Gave him the freedom to do what he does best, and we thank him for everything. He's got that DAWG!!! He fits in perfectly with our rowdy krewe and we're going to suprise people this year.
@jstew4075
@jstew4075 Ай бұрын
Baker is totally disrespected. As a Browns fan I never wanted him drafted, I wanted Allen. Rookie year for Baker I had hope in my team for the first time in ages. Won a playoff game and I was like omg we have a chance to do something. He loses the locker room to a terrible OBJ situation. He plays hurt and has a bad year and they ship him out like he was trash. Let's not forget how many coaches and coordinators he dealt with in Cleveland that's always bad for young QBs. He was treated like trash in Carolina and wanted out. He liked LA but they were never giving up on Stafford so he went to Tampa to try to prove he's a starting QB. In Tampa He was disrespected by media that Trask was better, media kept picking not only the Saints but Atlanta over the Bucs and Mayfield proved them all wrong. No one's wrong to say he's a disappointment from a #1 pick perspective but to act like this man hasn't been absolutely disrespected at almost every stop in the NFL is nuts. The only time this dude has even had the same system and coaches for more than a year is his injury plagued 2nd season with Stefanski which he shouldn't be crucified for. If he doesn't play he's not tough enough for the league as a smaller QB. It was a lose lose situation for him.
@alex-og.zalez9403
@alex-og.zalez9403 Ай бұрын
Bruh mcvay never got rid of him? Nobody pays attention lol
@WaylonAndST.MathyusDad35
@WaylonAndST.MathyusDad35 Ай бұрын
They don't mention that if Higgins didn't fumble the ball on the goal line against the Chiefs, Baker would've had the winning drive.
@calv1846
@calv1846 Ай бұрын
bakker had a lot of pressure to perform with bad coaches and dysfunctional rosters n somehow survived n was able to get a starting job, u gotta respect it.
@tyrusreed6595
@tyrusreed6595 Ай бұрын
@@calv1846 I guess you wasn’t paying attention the way he played with the Browns
@calv1846
@calv1846 Ай бұрын
@@tyrusreed6595 they were terrible before he got their. odell kinda made drama w him n made him leave n then he left. just a dysfunctional organization. thats besides the point tho. he didn't play out of this world on the browns but he played good beat an undefeated steelers team (or close to undefeated) and then ran into mahomes, that just happens sometimes honestly.
@ishyameru6232
@ishyameru6232 22 күн бұрын
@@tyrusreed6595 Setting the rookie TD record at the time, leading the Browns to their first playoff appearance from being the laughing stock of the NFL before injuring his shoulder and playing through it? What are you talking about? Do you think the Browns would rather have Deshaun or Baker TODAY 😂 😂
@tyrusreed6595
@tyrusreed6595 22 күн бұрын
@@calv1846 Actually Odell left before he did so what he do after?
@tyrusreed6595
@tyrusreed6595 22 күн бұрын
@@ishyameru6232 You talking about right now of course Baker by a slim margin. But Baker ain’t still isn’t an overall better player than Deshaun Watson
@johnnysilver5866
@johnnysilver5866 Ай бұрын
Never understood why baker was punished for sacrificing his body for the good of the Browns. Why on earth you wouldn’t want a guy that loyal on your team is ludicrous.
@grizkrelez
@grizkrelez Ай бұрын
Says everything there is to say about the browns right there. The other 31 franchises wouldn't be that dumb.
@joshuahicks6583
@joshuahicks6583 21 күн бұрын
Now you understand why we had a season with 0 wins.
@tstaples1028
@tstaples1028 14 күн бұрын
That’s just the type of guy he is!!
@factszy489
@factszy489 Ай бұрын
I agree with both sides, he’s a top 11-16 QB, but at the same time he has 100% been disrespected. He was under appreciated at the browns, Carolina was playing PJ Walker over him, LA he looked great just they simply had stafford, & he had a great season with a buccaneers team where nobody had faith in them, everyone had saints winning that division 😂
@urusledge
@urusledge Ай бұрын
I’d put him more at 5-10 based on his best healthy seasons given all the proper context, but 11-15 is fair given the numbers. What always baffles me is people think orgs take a guy #1 for the same reasons every time. That simply isn’t the case. Sometimes they pick a guy because they view him as having the highest ceiling, sometimes they pick the guy who is viewed as the most pro-ready, depending on their needs at the time. If you are a stable organization with a serviceable starter that can take you on a playoff run, you might pick a raw but high ceiling guy you can develop behind the vet for one or two years, like the Chiefs and Mahomes. If you are a struggling team with no good options at QB but an otherwise solid roster, you might pick the guy who is the most pro-ready to take advantage of the current roster, which is what I think the Browns did by picking Mayfield over Allen.
@nickster1135
@nickster1135 Ай бұрын
How did mcvay get rid of him he was a free agent lmfao
@lemonman823
@lemonman823 Ай бұрын
that all you look at out of this 10 minute video?
@nickster1135
@nickster1135 Ай бұрын
@@lemonman823 is that the only comment u read hahaha
@germskee7352
@germskee7352 Ай бұрын
He had stafford
@jamiehill854
@jamiehill854 Ай бұрын
As a Bucs fan who loves him and appreciates everything he has done for our Franchise..... but booger is a moron.
@djbingham5451
@djbingham5451 Ай бұрын
Ss a BUCCANEER since 1996, Booger hates us for reasons unknown and it pisses me off to no end. Just come out and tell us why youre mad
@hillbillyhitman8506
@hillbillyhitman8506 Ай бұрын
​@@djbingham5451Booger hates Tampa because he was always in Sapps shadow then we traded him to the Colts for a 2nd Round Pick week 5 of the 2006 season.
@mysteriousman3613
@mysteriousman3613 12 күн бұрын
I agree Complete idiot
@Wrasseman10
@Wrasseman10 8 күн бұрын
Espn and any player with any association with browns. He no good
@jamiehill854
@jamiehill854 8 күн бұрын
@@Wrasseman10 wtf are you trying to say? Haha
@crazyman8472
@crazyman8472 Ай бұрын
Baker Mayfield set the rookie TD passing record with 27 in 2018. Justin Herbert broke that record with 31 TD passes in 2020. 😎
@nickster1135
@nickster1135 Ай бұрын
Baker also didn't start tell week 4 if start week 1 never would of been broke
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
True baker did not play the whole season either.
@CT1513-hw8mo
@CT1513-hw8mo Ай бұрын
I want to say that the NFL also extended its reg season. So Baker started late and finished early.
@CorgiaiLover
@CorgiaiLover Ай бұрын
Baker had to carry the browns .......
@urusledge
@urusledge Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 neither did Herbert. He got put in after a medic somehow manage to puncture the starting QBs lung or something like that. He did play like a game and a half more than Baker though, so if you account for that they probably would have ended up with the same TDs if both started the whole season/same number of games their rookie years.
@erek_awesome
@erek_awesome Ай бұрын
Dan-O was getting PISSED at Mad Dog 😂
@connieq2811
@connieq2811 Ай бұрын
Because these guys use different arguments for different players blatantly
@TimberWolfProductions124
@TimberWolfProductions124 Ай бұрын
Dan is frustratingly giving pure facts and using logic to see these guys tear it apart is comedy 😂
@someperson8151
@someperson8151 Ай бұрын
Time will tell, but there will always be Baker haters. Like when nibody gave credit to Brady for winning SBs and Belichick always got credit.
@nickster1135
@nickster1135 Ай бұрын
Baker is underrated
@MrKoopa757
@MrKoopa757 Ай бұрын
“We dont get rid of talented players” Saquon???
@user-lt3th5vd6o
@user-lt3th5vd6o Ай бұрын
Overrated 😂
@-370HSSV-
@-370HSSV- Ай бұрын
Jan 10, 2021 Playoff Game Roethlisberger 47/68 501 yds 4 td 4 int Mayfield 21/34 263 yds 3 td 0 int
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure Bakers passer rating was close to perfect that game.. he always shows up in his playoff games. In 3 of 4 post season games he has thrown 3 or more tds.
@marklewis9067
@marklewis9067 Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 BAKER IS AWFUL
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
@@marklewis9067 I was right his passer rating was over 115 that game. Crazy. Did you like that playoff win in 2021 or this years playoff win over the eagles more? Both he threw 3 tds in.
@marklewis9067
@marklewis9067 Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 both garbage... pitt couldn't beat a pop Warner team with Ben throwing 4 int's. and the eagles weren't even a team by playoff time... the guy is horrific, Johnny manzel 2.0
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
@@marklewis9067 how did you feel when he threw for over 4000 yards and had 30 tds and won probowl mvp this year?
@bigkev9539
@bigkev9539 Ай бұрын
*Mayfield's inconsistency is almost entirely due to dogshit head coaching (Hue Jackson, Matt Rhule, Freddie Kitchens), bad defense (20th-22nd in points allowed 3 straight years from 2018-2020, as well as 2022) and his torn labrum in 2021.*
@CommonSence_
@CommonSence_ 24 күн бұрын
Watch your mouth he is a legend
@bigkev9539
@bigkev9539 24 күн бұрын
@@CommonSence_ *???*
@TheBlackestKnight21
@TheBlackestKnight21 Ай бұрын
Booger totally missed on that analysis bakers height had nothing to do with it and Tampa isn’t a heavy PA team, it was them trying to force feed Odell amongst other things. When they got away from Odell in Cleveland baker was on fire lmaoo
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
Facts when obj got injured in cleveland they went 11-5 and beat pit in the playoffs.
@vernonbandy2597
@vernonbandy2597 Ай бұрын
This is why Booger gets laughed at the most out of all other people who pretend to understand football
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
Booger is so terrible, when him, Witten, and testator would call mnf I would have to mute the tv when booger would talk.
@vernonbandy2597
@vernonbandy2597 Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 booger definitely makes me wonder how many head injuries he's had over the years
@deehollywood6013
@deehollywood6013 Ай бұрын
Yet he has been employed as a football analyst for years.... college and pro. It makes your opinion of him worthless.
@vernonbandy2597
@vernonbandy2597 Ай бұрын
@@deehollywood6013 no, what makes my opinion worthless is the fact that no one of worth is listening. Booger has a job, he's horrible. Skip Bayless has a job, he's a moron. They don't keep these jobs based on knowledge or pleasantness, these are the types of people who keep jobs based on their ability to get people to hate them. Remember him threatening to quit?
@deehollywood6013
@deehollywood6013 Ай бұрын
@vernonbandy2597 i get what you are saying, but he is getting paid to talk on TV horrible or not. Been collecting checks for a minute too.
@morpheus3190
@morpheus3190 22 күн бұрын
You guys are so wrong. Mayfield had pro bowl numbers last year in a crummy offensive scheme. Canales was a total failure as a first time play caller. You had to watch every game to see the plays this guy called. It was run up the middle on 1st and 2nd and throw on 3rd. No motion, no game planning. Finally later in the season Canales got a little better. With Coen the offense will be 100x better. As far as the Bucs first SB, Booger didn’t even play in it because he was always injured. Maybe that is why he hates the Bucs? Or was it Because Sapp was 10x better? lol.
@patrickmcgee502
@patrickmcgee502 4 күн бұрын
Canales is the best offensive coordinator in the NFL. Baker bros are so ridiculous
@kevinstetson4981
@kevinstetson4981 Ай бұрын
Baker mayfield is literally the best new browns QB in history
@Chevy918
@Chevy918 Ай бұрын
A lot of people overlook his rookie year imo. Didn’t make his first start until their 5th game and still broke the rookie passing touch down record, at the time, and brought the Browns back to being relevant. They won 1 game the previous two seasons combined before he got there and he led them to a playoff win. Yes he had a terrible second season but since then he’s been a successful quarterback. I don’t Judge him on his last year in Cleveland because he was playing through a serious injury. Then they sent him to the worst team in the league and all he’s done is revive his career since then. People need to put more Respect Bakers game. He might not be a top 5 guy he’s one of the better quarterbacks in the league.
@fallonanddavidbrown6397
@fallonanddavidbrown6397 Ай бұрын
Why put these idiots on with DAN ?!? It just pisses him off an he makes um look an sound so dumb 😂😂 ppl who know the game, have played it and are actually intelligent know that Dan stays on point!! I can't believe he doesn't work for a team by now. ESPN must be paying great
@johncecilia4517
@johncecilia4517 25 күн бұрын
Baker ranked in top 10 statistically. Broke rookie passing td record. Broke franchise records in playoffs for Buccaneers in qst season.
@alex-og.zalez9403
@alex-og.zalez9403 Ай бұрын
Baker mayfield literally is the reason the Browns have been relevant in the last 10 years. The browns meant nothing my whole life until he got there
@evileyevalaus
@evileyevalaus Ай бұрын
Yet he hasntbbeen there for a couple years and they still relevant so your clearly wrong 😭🤣
@mr.dschannel8800
@mr.dschannel8800 Ай бұрын
@@evileyevalausthey also haven’t been to the playoffs since he’s been there 🤷🏾‍♂️
@evileyevalaus
@evileyevalaus Ай бұрын
@@mr.dschannel8800 what are you talking about they was quite literally in the playoffs this past season😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mr.dschannel8800
@mr.dschannel8800 Ай бұрын
@@evileyevalaus my fault win a playoff game 😂
@mr.dschannel8800
@mr.dschannel8800 Ай бұрын
@@evileyevalaus literally half the teams get into the playoffs, they haven’t won a playoff game or even came close to winning the division
@PhantomObserver
@PhantomObserver Ай бұрын
Baker *was* disrespected, being shoved aside by the Browns and not used well by the Panthers. He’s now in Tampa where he has a genuine chance to grow in his physical talent and mental training.
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 Ай бұрын
Bruh it’s not like he is as any good their for being a number 1 pick.
@simplymayrionwashington8408
@simplymayrionwashington8408 Ай бұрын
I love Baker so proud he’s getting his respect!!!
@goodnightmunchie
@goodnightmunchie Ай бұрын
Not from the African community he's not 🤨🚬
@Ekleaz
@Ekleaz Ай бұрын
He's really not
@mr.dschannel8800
@mr.dschannel8800 Ай бұрын
@@goodnightmunchiebro stop with that comment 😂 It’s one person in the black community.
@coltonbrendel-pn6ed
@coltonbrendel-pn6ed Ай бұрын
Did you not listen to the clip? Haha
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
Probowl mvp baker mayfield, call him Mr 4000.
@user-ey6cv7my9d
@user-ey6cv7my9d Ай бұрын
The entire tampa bay buccaneers team is being disrespected
@44excalibur
@44excalibur Ай бұрын
Okay, first of all, regarding Baker Mayfield's height, since when is 6'1" "short"? Brock Purdy and Jalen Hurts are also both 6'1" and they both went to the Super Bowl and nearly beat Patrick Mahomes, and neither of them had a problem pushing the ball downfield over defensive lines. Drew Brees was six feet tall and he's a Super Bowl champion, a guaranteed Hall of Famer, and one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game. Kyler Murray at 5'10" is a short quarterback. Second, Trevor Lawrence is also a #1 draft pick, and has he lived up to expectations for the Jaguars? Has he shown that he was worth a five year, $275 million contract?
@scottgrdina5599
@scottgrdina5599 Ай бұрын
Yes Trevor Lawrence has show that. That's why he got paid. Layup question.
@44excalibur
@44excalibur Ай бұрын
​​@@scottgrdina5599Oh, really? Trevor Lawrence has one playoff win against the Chargers. Baker Mayfield has two playoff wins. Last year the Jaguars entered the month of December with a record of 8-3 and a clear shot at not only winning the division, but even the #1 seed. Instead, Lawrence and the Jags collapsed, finished 9-8, got eliminated from the playoffs, and watched C.J. Stroud and the Texans win their division and go on to the playoffs.
@CT1513-hw8mo
@CT1513-hw8mo Ай бұрын
​@@44excalibur Baker has 2 playoff wins
@44excalibur
@44excalibur Ай бұрын
@@CT1513-hw8mo Thanks for the correction.
@CT1513-hw8mo
@CT1513-hw8mo Ай бұрын
@@44excalibur all g, just a big baker fan
@johnpenley
@johnpenley Ай бұрын
Mayfield earned my respect, and I'm a Lions fan.
@staceypayton5159
@staceypayton5159 Ай бұрын
Whatupdoe ....DETROIT vs everybody....
@michaelpatterson3239
@michaelpatterson3239 Ай бұрын
If you look at the first 6 seasons of Baker Mayfield vs Drew Brees the numbers are very similar with Baker edging Drew out in several categories. QBR for Drew was 87.5 and QBR for Baker was 88.1. It’s more about finding the right fit as a QB than anything else. Too many coaches in the league think a QB should adjust to the system the coach wants to run instead of creating a system that fits the QB’s individual skills. It will be interesting to see where his career goes from here but all things equal he got as good a shot as anyone to be an all pro year over year with the players he has around him.
@iiMoNeY
@iiMoNeY 16 күн бұрын
If Baker is “average” because he was a #1 pick in the draft then keep that same energy for Trevor Lawrence.
@travisswiley7663
@travisswiley7663 Ай бұрын
Baker didn't lose the game against Kansas city the defense did letting a back up qb on 4th and 6 run for the first and letting them kick a field goal to win
@stanglassman
@stanglassman Ай бұрын
#12 Qb is a big difference than 16+. One part he says he’s not a top half Qb then the next he says 16 to 12. #12-14 is a fair assessment at this point. If he has another good season then we can start talking about him as a 8-12 best Qb. I don’t know anyone saying he’s a top 5 other than T. Hill.
@reeserothenberg792
@reeserothenberg792 Ай бұрын
Baker has been inconsistent, and I’m a huge fan. But when baker is comfortable in a system and has weapons he can win you games. So while he has underachieved as a #1 overall pick , I think he’s done well considering all of the turnover with coaches and OCs he has gone through. Even now in Tampa he will have his 7th OC and 6th HC in his career. Hopefully he can string some consistency together and play through his contract with some momentum for the rest of his career.
@Thenostolgicdude
@Thenostolgicdude Ай бұрын
I agree with Dan 100% and i love that Watson screwed the browns 😂
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
Yea watson has been terrible in cleveland. He's not even been a top 25 qb there when he plays.
@Chet_24
@Chet_24 Ай бұрын
LA wanted to re-sign him. Mayfield wanted to be a starter, so he signed with the Bucs and things worked out. That turned out to be a smart decision since Stafford is still playing.
@mylesgould8609
@mylesgould8609 17 күн бұрын
Baker will get his respect this year, believe that!
@lyndelf
@lyndelf Ай бұрын
Guy talks about Baker being a small QB who couldn't see over defenses and blah, blah, blah, so why didn't the coaches from Cleveland put him in situations to play to his strengths like he did when he was at Oklahoma? A QB is only as good as the scheme and coaching that is around him, the clown show that was Cleveland and Carolina showed how true that can be! The Rams and the Bucs had coaches who understood Baker's game and strengths and were able to capitalize on those qualities. Baker looked like the player that earned him the #1 pick last year with the Bucs and he's looking to continue that with the new OC from the Rams!! GO BAKER!!
@TheAvargas687
@TheAvargas687 11 күн бұрын
In all honesty baker has shown he's worthy as a really good QB , the man deserves respect
@bradymac2158
@bradymac2158 Ай бұрын
Cleveland wins the SB last year easily if they had baker and all those picks back. Watson giving them an insane karma blast lol
@marklewis9067
@marklewis9067 Ай бұрын
baker had a great team in Cleveland HES AWFUL
@84webhead
@84webhead Ай бұрын
I don't know about winning the Superbowl, still have Patrick Mahomes to get through. But, your chances are significantly higher with Baker rather than Dashawn
@someperson8151
@someperson8151 Ай бұрын
​@@marklewis9067in 2021 they were down to playing their 5th and 6th string tacklss and Donovon Peoples Jones was WR1.
@carlito_148
@carlito_148 Ай бұрын
Baker is very disrespected. He is basically Kurt Cousins or Dak Prescott. They are overrated and Baker is underrated. They are solid mid + quaterbacks.
@mikellbull
@mikellbull Ай бұрын
Don't ever disrespect Prescott like that again
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
Dak was mvp runner up and I a top 8 qb. Baker and cousins are probably top 12 or 14 qbs. All good.
@CT1513-hw8mo
@CT1513-hw8mo Ай бұрын
Unlike baker, dak and cousin struggle in the postseason. Baker has better stats and about the same wins on two different team. Dak is overrated
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
@@CT1513-hw8mo yea baker and dak has same number of playoff wins. But dak puts up better stats. Still baker is a top 14 qb imo.
@CT1513-hw8mo
@CT1513-hw8mo Ай бұрын
@@anthonypa8045 granted. The issue is, dak has been on the same team his entire career, with only a couple coaching changes. Baker hasn't had the same coach for more than 2 yrs. And he preformed relatively well. I think over the rest of his contract, we'll see if Baker is a top QB or no
@chrispicquet733
@chrispicquet733 21 күн бұрын
Odell Beckham's parents were calling the Browns from t office to complain about Baker, not throw the ball to their boy,and not socializing with him. Soon after,Baker was Traded
@TheJonOrtiz
@TheJonOrtiz Ай бұрын
Really glad to see how the baker story is playing out
@bigsayso
@bigsayso Ай бұрын
Tom Brady went 9-8 and the Bucs lost a lot when he left including money
@CoryLowe
@CoryLowe Ай бұрын
Baker is by the most disrespected player and has always been good and will be a top 10 qb this year
@urusledge
@urusledge Ай бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if Booger watches football anymore. He had a better year in Tampa than his best year in Cleveland with a virtually non-existent run-game, so the idea that he’s carried by the run game and relies on the play-action pass can’t really be said anymore. Booger hates Baker. Simple as that.
@jctslice
@jctslice Ай бұрын
No, I don't think so. He's sort of inconsistent. It's hard to respect a player when you don't know what you're getting from season to season
@goodnightmunchie
@goodnightmunchie Ай бұрын
But yet the African community wants Justin Fields to get paid like he's won a Superbowl 🤦🚬
@TYreLL0416
@TYreLL0416 Ай бұрын
@@goodnightmunchieBro, quit those racist comments
@sharmarizle21
@sharmarizle21 Ай бұрын
Unnecessary race comments.
@mr.dschannel8800
@mr.dschannel8800 Ай бұрын
@@TYreLL0416lol yea that was out of left field but yall need to stop hating on Baker when he’s won more playoff games than Herbert and Tua combined. Those guys are being championed for no reason.
@8ballP
@8ballP Ай бұрын
@@mr.dschannel8800wins are not a qb stat.
@Thenostolgicdude
@Thenostolgicdude Ай бұрын
Booger says hes not a top 10 to 15 quarterback but then says he can be a average to above average quarterback 😂 32 teams and average would be 16. Above average would be between 10-15
@josepht5331
@josepht5331 Ай бұрын
He clearly said he’s not top 10. He did not say 15. Booger says a lot of questionable things but this was not one of them. Got to open your ears and not hear what u want to hear.
@Mikerotch1287
@Mikerotch1287 Ай бұрын
There’s a reason he was one and done on MNF lol the dude sucks at his job if he had the same complexion as orlovsky he would’ve been fired by now lol
@mattgibney4085
@mattgibney4085 Ай бұрын
Clean ya ears, he said top10 not 15. And he said his average to slightly above average
@mr.dschannel8800
@mr.dschannel8800 Ай бұрын
@@mattgibney4085he also said he wasn’t too 15 as well
@Thewhiteclawoutlaw
@Thewhiteclawoutlaw Ай бұрын
Yeah the 14 year nfl veteran doesn’t know near as much as keyboard sofa warrior in yourself 👍
@AliFrankTheTank
@AliFrankTheTank Ай бұрын
Dan O vs Mad Dog a classic 😂😂😂
@FawkesRobert702
@FawkesRobert702 Ай бұрын
This is why everybody should stop watching ESPN among many more valid reasons. It’s not worth your time
@Kingta17
@Kingta17 Ай бұрын
Dan is the jj reddrick of nfl commentators
@Chet_24
@Chet_24 Ай бұрын
Is that good? Or bad? I dont follow NBA or nba analysis, so i dont know.
@Kingta17
@Kingta17 Ай бұрын
@Chet_24 they both are former players that refuse critique anyone that plays. They're takes are always predictable, and the coddle EVERY player.
@Dannean7
@Dannean7 20 сағат бұрын
Lets just stop and think about all the talented players over the years that teams have gotten rid of...🙄
@giffondhall9214
@giffondhall9214 Ай бұрын
They talking about the Bucs? I'm shocked ESPN 😆
@derekbrown7111
@derekbrown7111 Ай бұрын
Mad dog and Booger just spitting all the talking points before the 2023 season. They didn’t watch one single piece of game film. Baker’s 2023 numbers, advanced stats, were the exact opposite of what Booger was claiming. Baker’s 2023 was top 10 any way ya slice it.
@bigsayso
@bigsayso Ай бұрын
He seen the field pretty good last year with a iffy oline…. That shoulder injury really effected people’s brains
@kyleawesomeful
@kyleawesomeful 14 күн бұрын
I was actually going to comment on thinking Baker would be better for the Browns now, than Watson. Glad they agree.
@johncecilia4517
@johncecilia4517 25 күн бұрын
If madoff and Bugar think he's so bad why dont you bring up stats. Horrible arguments. I dont think they watch his games.
@kyleawesomeful
@kyleawesomeful 14 күн бұрын
In a more recent video Dan-O also argued with other analyst that the Browns aren’t getting the attention they deserve. I commented that Baker was a big part in that initial turn around from being a bottom of the barrel team. Great to see both the Browns and Baker have success.
@MargaritaCanez
@MargaritaCanez Ай бұрын
I'm rooting more for has been Baker Mayfield than overhyped Baker Mayfield 😂
@AaronsOhhFace
@AaronsOhhFace Ай бұрын
I love Dan's Face at every close up... lol..But I agree with him. Baker's a good QB. If putting him in top ten is wrong just remember who put him at 5... Tyreek Hill.. lol
@blackmantravel6954
@blackmantravel6954 Ай бұрын
But he was the number one overall pick, and much is expected going that high.
@ne0n1nja247
@ne0n1nja247 Ай бұрын
But when we bring up Trevor all of a sudden we get a lot more excuses. The only differences is the Browns pigeon holed Baker.
@reed785M
@reed785M Ай бұрын
@@ne0n1nja247excellent point
@anthonypa8045
@anthonypa8045 Ай бұрын
​@@ne0n1nja247great point, baker has won multiple playoff games for two differnt franchises already and just threw for 4000 yards and 30 tds and made the probowl. He's only been in the nfl for 5 or 6 years. Seems to be doing just fine.
@someperson8151
@someperson8151 Ай бұрын
Baker has a better first 3 years than Lawrence. Baker was averaging 25 TD passes a season. Lawrence less than 20.
@nickster1135
@nickster1135 Ай бұрын
My oklahoma sooners had the worst defense in histpry with baker.
@Chet_24
@Chet_24 Ай бұрын
For real. I also think it was 31-17 at half and not 31-14. That weird squib kick before halftime hurt.
@direden
@direden Ай бұрын
It's illogical to say you expect more from a number 1 pick... therefore, Baker deserves criticism. The Browns picked him at #1 when he should have been a 2nd round pick. The Browns' decision to overpay... isn't Baker's fault. If Baker was picked after Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson... would you respect Baker more? Everyone is giving Trevor Lawrence a pass because he was drafted by a disfunctional organization and is dealing with an injury. But you don't give Baker that same respect. Why? Because the Browns let Baker go and the Jags stuck with Trevor. Again, why make Baker pay for Cleveland's poor decisions? Baker is not a top 5 QB, BUT he is in the top 10 conversation. He's won more playoff games than Kirk Cousins. His numbers last year were in the same ball park as Stafford, Hurtz, and Goff. But I rank them above Baker because of playoff wins. But Dak, Tua, Love, Stroud, and Lawrence... All those guys get more respect than Baker, even though Baker is just as good as (if not better than) they are. SMH
@MANdujano2010
@MANdujano2010 Ай бұрын
Yeah we went 9-8 but that’s better than what people thought we were gonna be I remember hearing we were only gonna be a 5 win season
@brandonmaryland
@brandonmaryland Ай бұрын
6:37 booger actually said he wasn’t a top 15 QB
@CorgiaiLover
@CorgiaiLover Ай бұрын
If people look at that stats he's been top ten QB since his been in the league and healthy
@cassandraluna2570
@cassandraluna2570 23 күн бұрын
Sports teams do “get rid” of talented players because some franchises are dumb af
@spensenobles
@spensenobles Ай бұрын
It's crazy that Baker is more underappreciated than Deshaun Watson.
@UC_DeathRay
@UC_DeathRay 3 күн бұрын
Booger being disrespectful AF calling Baker average. Booger was overrated since his LSU days😂
@crustycritters6148
@crustycritters6148 Ай бұрын
Bro who made the thumbnail….ur fired
@Tampabay2020
@Tampabay2020 Ай бұрын
Anthony McFarland as a buccaneer should be ashamed of himself what a terrible take
@jm458205
@jm458205 Ай бұрын
There's no relevancy to teams other than that browns that he was the number one pick. I think Baker will be a solid qb for a long time but hes not elite.
@maggiehill789
@maggiehill789 Ай бұрын
Baker mayfield 2020 with Cleveland was the exact same season as last year with tampa Even beat the two teams that went 11-0 and tanked in the playoffs
@Rooski245
@Rooski245 Ай бұрын
Dan is pathetic. Dude really thought he made a point with Deshaun. This guy just can’t accept he’s wrong. Arrogance at its highest with a former backup QB.
@LivingOnPurpose757
@LivingOnPurpose757 Ай бұрын
A few of the most disrespected players on the same team… Baker Mike and Lavonte
@ademirsegura6307
@ademirsegura6307 Ай бұрын
It’s surprising how the Bucs found a way to move on Post-Brady with Baker Mayfield and not the Patriots
@urusledge
@urusledge Ай бұрын
Matt Ruhl wasn’t even the coach when Baker asked to be released 😂 Booger and Mad Dog don’t watch many games or follow many teams and it shows.
@ilikemyowncomments622
@ilikemyowncomments622 Ай бұрын
Leave it to Orlovsky to make Mad Dog seem like the same one 🤦🏻‍♂️ and I’m a Baker stan 😂
@bengalsbowlbound3137
@bengalsbowlbound3137 Ай бұрын
I thought that was Skip Bayless for a second and I laughed. There cant be a Baker Mayfield conversation without Skip slobbing his knob.
@matthewstlouis9736
@matthewstlouis9736 Ай бұрын
I love how everybody talks about the talent in Tampa carrying Baker as if they didn’t have that team projects to finished last in the NFL before the season.
@FoCrazy
@FoCrazy 24 күн бұрын
Dude on the right is a clown. To say mcvay got rid of baker as an argument knowing you have superbowl champion Matt Stanford coming back from injury is just nonsense!
@boomersooner201026
@boomersooner201026 24 күн бұрын
I really don’t know why so many espn speakers don’t like Baker. First the Georgia game he did not loose it Lincoln Riley lost that game. They should have beat KC if wasn’t for that bad call. Detroit it was poor decision on baker. Yet he turned around Cleveland browns and they ship him off cause he argued with stefansky about the plays he was calling. Carolina was just a bad fit. LA they just needed someone that can win. Out of Sam darnold, Josh Rosen , Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. Baker the only QB from that draft. That has won playoff game. So I dont understand the hate towards baker. He a good quarterback and can get a team to a playoffs . That’s my opinion.
@edwardoorjitham7714
@edwardoorjitham7714 Ай бұрын
Booger is one of the worst analyst on tv. He is simply not able to evaluate any nfl position other than his.
@tyrusreed6595
@tyrusreed6595 Ай бұрын
wtf are you talking about
@edwardoorjitham7714
@edwardoorjitham7714 Ай бұрын
@@tyrusreed6595 what do you not understand?
@tyrusreed6595
@tyrusreed6595 Ай бұрын
@@edwardoorjitham7714 Booger said he was in the 12 to 15 range in top QBs in the league he plays good with A LOT of talent around him which he has. Mad dog agreed with him so I’m tryna figure out why you said that about Booger
@edwardoorjitham7714
@edwardoorjitham7714 Ай бұрын
Booger said Mayfield was NOT a top 10 or 15 qb in the league. He called him average. Booger, unlike Dan, gave no statistics to back up his hackneyed opinions. Over the years, Booger has proven to me that he is unable to effectively analyze offensive systems, players and especially, qb play.
@tyrusreed6595
@tyrusreed6595 Ай бұрын
@@edwardoorjitham7714 Baker is pretty average, that’s why he only got a 3 year deal which actually did back up his claim.
@shawnGlobal
@shawnGlobal 21 күн бұрын
Buddy never really been sorry he just wasn’t focused and team was sorry asf ofc
@DSHIP77
@DSHIP77 23 күн бұрын
We gotta stop the expectations for draft picks . The NFL is the best of the best of the best . Just cause u a #1 pick doesnt mean u should expect a hall of famer tbh 😂 all u got to do is check the statistics on that to see how rare it actually is
@tuckerhassell5153
@tuckerhassell5153 6 күн бұрын
Lavante David is also the most disrespected player
@Alanboy395
@Alanboy395 Ай бұрын
As far as his time in Cleveland, he has a legit gripe. The other spots, no.
@TheBenolan
@TheBenolan Ай бұрын
Why? He threw a tantrum when the team looked into other options and forced their hand. He forced himself out to his own detriment.
@TYreLL0416
@TYreLL0416 Ай бұрын
@@TheBenolanHe didn’t throw any tantrum. And even if he did, so what? The Browns wanted a guy who had 24 civil lawsuits against him over Baker
@damiantanks1738
@damiantanks1738 Ай бұрын
Baker was not that good in Cleve. He always need some chip on his shoulder to play good. Baker is not elite Baker is a stop gap QB in Tampa
@Lane2268
@Lane2268 Ай бұрын
he had nothing in Carolina. He had an outrageous qbr with the Rams and everyone thinks they know baker, I am from Oklahoma and I don't know Baker. Baker had a few beers in fayetteville. That pales in the duis or Mixons battery charge that broke 3 bones in the girls face and I wrote in asking he be dismissed from the team.
@8ballP
@8ballP Ай бұрын
@@TYreLL0416I mean what is the front office supposed to do when the players on the team didn’t like baker. How many former teammates speak up for him.We literally thought Odell was washed bc of him
@saint6563
@saint6563 Ай бұрын
Baker baked himself. Knew he shouldn't play injured his contact year. He & the coach messed up.
@GoodjobRob
@GoodjobRob Ай бұрын
Didn't the Browns think they were getting a better QB? Wrong but fair argument. The panthers weren't keeping talent they traded CMC that year. LA had Stafford on a large contract. None of this even happens if the Browns do the smart thing and NOT TRADE FOR THE GUY THAT HADN'T PLAYED IN 1.5 YEARS!
@shawnizhere5155
@shawnizhere5155 Ай бұрын
Whos the bafoon in the grey suit?😂 he said Baker blew a 31-14 lead in college 😂. Dayum i didn't know baker plays defense too😂this guy
@mandocorrea6202
@mandocorrea6202 6 күн бұрын
They harp on first overall pick, let's talk about Trevor Lawrence! No, he's the media darling and untouchable!
@Chibbery05
@Chibbery05 24 күн бұрын
He was one of the problems in Carolina, he was the worst QB for the Panthers since Jimmy Clausen
@AnonymousPublicChannel
@AnonymousPublicChannel Ай бұрын
Dear ESPN, grammatical errors, like the title of this video has, will continue to happen until DEI is killed.
@ThomasTellAVision
@ThomasTellAVision Ай бұрын
Sometimes I wonder where does ESPN go to hire some of these commentators. Like who tf is mad dog and why is his opinions considered expert? Baker is for sure a top 10 qb if we’re going off last year. It’s funny how “recency bias” is only used when a qb does bad but when they do well, they count all the years with no context.
@jamesbottoms8566
@jamesbottoms8566 Ай бұрын
If that is the explanations, why didn't the jags qb get traded for under performance?
@gamblingguru2235
@gamblingguru2235 Ай бұрын
That QB analysis of Dan is horrible lol he’s entertaining but has no idea like baker is legit AVERAGE+ that’s it
@maverick33guy95
@maverick33guy95 Ай бұрын
He's average
@michaelf.bender3718
@michaelf.bender3718 Ай бұрын
💯👍
@brennanboston2746
@brennanboston2746 Ай бұрын
Baker left Cleveland. He left Carolina. He left LA. He believes he’s a starter, which he is. No one got rid of mayfield with out Mayfields okay,.
@AbandonCrabcore
@AbandonCrabcore Ай бұрын
Baker is Easily top 10 😂❤ These guys are hilarious
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