😂😂😂 that’s so fitting

@@FauxShi it was absolutely glorious. The most EXTRA™️ moment that fit that disaster gay and I was living for it

@@TF2CrunchyFrog😂 it’s so good what the heck. Absolutely perfect

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He telled me that here too but huh, the game was like "he said nothings:]" after i didn’t know if it was a bug??? Like wtf, i was supposed to know no?

Also Astarion: You trusted me when that was an objectively stupid thing to do. ;)

After watching how he begs to stay, I wanted an option that could say "Relax, I'm just messing with you. I already knew", but seeing how well he takes sarcasm or teasing comments, I guess it wouldn't be the best option.

To be fair, to be outright killed right there is a kinder fate than if you tell him to leave, as it turns out.

​@@rosavillanueva5189 yeah it would've been kind of hilarious to have an option like "Away you foul demon!! The power of Ao compels you!! Selune protect me!" Just making it obvious that you're messing with him lol

Agreed! It’s so spot on they did such a good job

Definitely agree, the story and character development really caught me by surprise. I live under a rock and had no knowledge or expectations going into the game, just kinda got it on a whim. So to have stories unfold as beautifully as they did was incredible. I look forward to playing through again to keep seeing new things but I’m not ready to pick a new companion so I basically just started the same character over 😅 can’t wait for the bugs to get fixed - this one included!

@@FauxShi I don't want to spoil you but your intuition about not long resting too much for fear of missing stuff is on the money.

@@JSmith99OTOH, I rarely long rested during my first playthrough, especially in the beginning. (I got almost to the goblin camp without a single long rest because I didn’t understand how the system worked.) Now I’m starting a new playthrough with frequent long rests, and it’s amazing how much content I missed. Still working out the ideal balance, but it seems like resting after every semi-important plot point will reward you with some sort of small scene. That said, it’s hard to know when an event will be affected by a long rest. The burning inn is affected once you trigger it, but it’s hard to tell how close you have to get to officially trigger it. The scene in the grove where Kagha decides Arabella’s fate looks like the kind of event that would be affected, but as an experiment I long rested on the steps of that room, fully expecting the scene to have moved on when I woke, and nothing changed.

@@FauxShiI had no idea what it was, either. Gamer friends said it was great, and the trailer looked like trashy good fun, so I picked it up. Was so VERY NOT PREPARED for the worm in the eye and the heavy dose of body horror in the opening. Was even less prepared, though more pleasantly so, for the game to be so good.

​@@mrjones2721Theres a mod on nexus that tells you when you should long rest for a cut scene. It can be imperfect, sometimes itll say i should and nothing happens, sometimes it doesn't let you know when you should, but so far its been consistent.

So true! It’s a simple response but says so much and his reaction is perfect. Thanks for checking it out!

I love that his "So... was there anything else?" is still showing slight confusion just by the inflection of his voice and his expression. it's different from the previous "Now, was there anything else?" where he sounds more suave and seductive. The subtle details of this game's dialogue tree make it so special to me.

Exactly!! The indifference to his condition is the most freeing!!

Lolol your character is so generous with their blood!

My first Tav refused him outright, because that’s just a bad idea. My redemption Durge let him have a nibble, ignoring the first opportunity to stop, but pushing him off after that. My evil Durge pushed him off first chance she got. My first Tav would have let him have a nibble if there were an option for biting the wrist, though. Let me have a knife for emergencies, dammit. You never know with vampires! 😭

If you play as astarion you can choose which party member to tell and they're basically all like "duh but why didn't you say it sooner?!"

To me it was the empty bottle of blood and the mirror (that he doesn’t reflect in) at his tent that were giveaways 😂

It’s such a short little sentence but feels like it has so much weight to it

I’m glad you checked it out! I love seeing all the dialogue and have lost some saves that I wish I still had so I totally get it ^^

Your christophobia is showing. fix that.

Crucifixion (sp?) isn’t a Christian thing. It’s as old as humanity. Tying someone to a tree or contraption and then torture-murdering them isn’t exactly new. Look at the Shar temples ingame.

Thank you! I’m glad you liked it 💙

Right?? I thought for sure something might change to make it more about him going for blood after saying we can trust each other but alas 😢 at least we don’t miss out on the camp scene entirely, I still love the interaction

It might be bugged tho. Larian said they are going to correct missing scenes and dialogues in the following patches. It seems like there are a lot of them.

Report it to Larian! It might be bugged

Yep, had the same bug.

Yeah, it seems bugged. Report it to Larian so they can change it.

I’m not a cinnamon Roll! I’m a black-hearted harbinger of evil 😈

Basically cilantro "This time, I'll be good!"

Awwww I always put the worst options first to get them out of the way and replace them with better ones! 🥲 Sorry it makes for a sad jumpscare though 😭😭

I also wondered why he didn’t get a little sip of Cazador Red while we were there. Maybe I missed a downside? I do recall that if he ascends and talks about turning you, there’s an option along the lines of “I want to be a true vampire” and he says something like “in time perhaps, it’s a big adjustment”. I think the hybrid option of him becoming a full one but not ascending could’ve been interesting!

I suppose it just ceases to matter that much once Cazador is defeated? the biggest problem with being a spawn is being *enslaved* to the vampire lord, so.... whether the spawn drinks the lord's blood or kills the lord, problem solved. there's only like one line where Astarion can tell you what additional powers Cazador has, so all that seems to not be his main priority even before finding out about the ritual. and after finding out, the powers of the Vampire Ascendant are *much* more interesting to him.

We should’ve gotten that option and save the people there but lose on becoming a vampire lord

The reason it's not an option is because a vampire lord has to willingly offer the blood to their spawn. Cazador would never.

@@danir4077 i thought the condition was purely to drink the blood of the vampire that turned you, but the thing stopping you from doing that is the vampires control over you. since Astarion isnt controllable anymore the bloods there for the taking. the other spawn too, once cazador is dead theres nothing stopping them.

Why? The only thing upsetting me about the consequences from raiding the grove was that Wyll (who was at camp at the time) just popped his little „a companion has permanently left the party“ as soon as I opened the gate. I would have expected him to shout at me when back in camp, but no. Just upping sticks and deleting himself from the game. 🤷‍♀️ Karlach reacted, though, because I hadn’t recruited her yet. She had choice words and attacked me. That felt much better. Also, cutting off my husband’s ingame waifu‘s head was a surreal experience. Poor Karlach. 😂

Lol that’s so sweet thank you ❤️ I agree but I might be biased 😅

Tav's face you mean? I believe it is - it's a half-wood elf face as far as I know, that seems to be the restriction.

Aw thank you ❤️❤️

Of course! Thanks for checking it out ❤

I completely agree. They really took the time and work needed to bring everyone to life. So many times it’s just uncanny but this game nailed it.

Yeah the bite scene will still happen even if he tells you without any changes to the dialogue 😩 they did fix a little bit of the continuity in patch 4 but it still needs work so hopefully it gets another update sometime

Thank you! Definitely living out a DnD character that I didn’t get to play yet 😄

Oh thank you and of course - here's what I use! Intel i9 13900K Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 32GB DDR4 Samsung 980 Pro SSD

Same now that I know I can rest as much as I want 😅 I don’t know where I got the idea that it would make the world continue without me but now I know better!

There’s definitely room for improvement with the continuity surrounding this! To get this conversation, you just have to get to the Underdark before he bites you in camp. There could be other ways that I don’t know about but that one has been super consistent when I’ve been trying different things.

So after experimenting to get some different footage it *seems* to trigger once you first reach the Underdark without long resting too much. I have a save where I’m just about to enter the Underdark for the first time and he doesn’t say it but once I walk in it becomes his next conversation (even if you leave). When I originally recorded this I still had 2 long rest scenes before the bite one (meeting the guardian and a dark urge one) so they were pretty backed up 😅

Get to the Underdark without triggering the bite scene. Astarion gets priority, so maybe three or four long rests before it triggers.

This happens if you make it to the Underdark before long resting too much. The bite scene will still happen some time after though!

Ohhh maybe! I haven’t had a chance to play much at all lately so I’ll have to add that to my list to check out. Hopefully someone else has given it a try too and can share their experience.

@@FauxShi I remember people where having a problem getting his bite scene to play, so they couldn’t get his bite attack. After he admits he’s a vampire he now automatically gets the attack. Making this a scripted scene could be Larian’s solution to players who can’t proc that scene.

@brandonfister4269 ohhhh yeah that must be what it is. Definitely not good to go through the game with that bugged out!

Do you have other camp scenes in the way by chance? I haven’t had a chance to play in a while but I know that was one thing that delayed it and I had to do a bunch of long rests to catch up

You are correct - the game is designed that way. The player character has some voice lines that play as you wander around but the dialogue during cutscenes is not voiced. I think there are a few stray lines that were left in for the player character but they’re really rare (dark urge quest in Act 3 has 1 line for example).

From all the stuff I tried, it seems to trigger if you reach the Underdark without long resting enough to get the bite scene. In my original playthrough when I first heard this, I had a bunch of long rest scenes stacked up so the bite scene got pushed back as I kept exploring everything. Idk for sure if there's another trigger but the Underdark entry seems to for sure.

No, this was prior to patch 2. I had this dialogue before patch 1 as well but recorded it between 1 and 2. I tested it out last night after the patch and it’s all the same for now.