Some of the color options for copper and bronze dragonborn player characters include significant amounts of verdigris. I made mine copper just for the sweet verdigris highlights on her horns.

I always thought he was a green dragon and was so confused why he was considered a hero of Baldurs gate, makes so much more sense that he’s bronze

Ooohhh, I was wondering about that, 'cause it doesn't take a genius to figure out that, unless he's just really weird, he isn't a green.

@@chainsawboy2388 He has distinctive head of a bronze dragon which is similar in form to the one of red dragons and scales on his nose are still of bronze color. Besides, his references to storm and tempest and breath weapon also reveal he is bronze ravener.

He still has streaks of bronze that shows through the green all over his body. When he says, "Let my bones rise, and the storms gather" you can see bronze mixed in with the green along his wrings.

What if you aren't killing any dragon bfs?

He didn’t want to die, yet the dragon decided he should. Balduran did the right thing.

​@@sitalius7591 not quite right. Ansur was right.being illithid means you change completely. your thoughts your feelings are not same anymore. balduran and emperor are not same person actually .yeah emperor remember who he was but that is it. Their characters different balduran was trust worthy and good person but emperor is not he is very secretive,ruthless and calculative if he thinks you are danger to him or his plans he removes you or kills you for example minsc he was danger to his plans so he intend to left him to die and duke stelmane was good woman but in order to control her he used his illithid powers kinda brainwashed her and that caused health problems for her after a while that left her partially paralyzed .so ansur wanted to that because he wanted protect his friends good side but it was too late he had already changed.even we change a little if we chose to become illithid. We think different but that is it .we are different from emperor if you suicide as an illithid withers tell you that you have a soul and our feelings and thoughts are still intact

​@@yusufkaradag8983Theres a bit of a discrepancy with how the "no-soul" thing is handled. If i recall correctly, this piece of lore is canon only to larian's game , and not to the source material. But i think we can safely assume that both Omelium and the Emperor managed to keep their souls, based on what we are given. (Omelium helping the duke over himself, and Ansur recognising Balduran after transforming) The whole "no-soul" thing is necessary for the plot, as without it, Withers and some gods needn't be involved, but as to why it happens, how it happens, and what makes someone an exception is never mentioned at all, cause in the end, this whole thing is just a convenient plot device... I don't think Balduran was a "good person" before transforming. Even back then, he was really selfish, only pursuing his own whims and interests above all else. And i also don't think he's a bad person after transforming. Sure, he entralled Stellmate, but he kinda had no choice about that. He lets the player make their choices despite all while sticking by them, he doesnt force us to transform in any circumstance, if you did tranform, he doesn't turn on you after your "usefulness is over" like you could turn on him, instead he's happy he has a partner, He needs to be "convinced" to do the evil ending The emperor was, and still is kind of a "brat" , and while Ansur's actions can be understood more if we believe he knew about the "no-soul" thing, deciding what one does with their life, is still not his decision to make. He fell in love with a version of Balduran, that most likely...verly likely, only existed inside his head. Im sure they would have had plenty issues , even if Balduran never transforms.

​@@dani22flore yeah that might be true but that just means he is like gortash .he didnt try to to control us with illithid powers because he wanted us to be healthy and belive him so he could use us better .so a beliving soldier is better than a brainwashed one. and after all after he paralyzed duke stelmane. he could stop after seeing her condition .after all she didnt paralyzed in a second there was symptoms something was not right with her and about bad ending i think he didnt try to use netherbrain for his purposes because he didnt belive he can Win a fight with gods yes even though they cant involve with humans life because of AO i think they would try protect their belivers because except from Ao gods needs belivers to have their "godly" powers without belivers they are good as dead.the reason for ansur is kinda right is not just image of his friend in his mind but also he wouldnt want to his friend do bad things or lost himself more. lets think like they should at least tried to talk before the the fight and there is two possibility .one empror failed to convince ansur that he didnt change so ansur blindly belived balduran losing about his pastself second ansur was right balduran was really losing all his morality to become good person and ansur wanted kill him because he thought his friend wouldnt want to lose his morality because of being illithid is influential to a persons mind think like a peson losing his mind because another person giving him a chemical that changes him so ansur thought his friend wouldnt want to hurt another person so her rather choose to die than killing someone.thir possibility is balduran was deceiving ansur about he is a good person and then first possibility happened . I belive second one or thir one happened because no one wants to person they love to die and also i belive emperor knows having a dragon as an ally is very helpfull.so there must be a proof he is changing drastically. he must be doing acts he wouldnt do in life because of being illithid.so emperor must done something not good.and ansur wanted to kill him

Dragonborn where slaves to chromatic dragon before they arrive at Feyrun. They should hate dragon guts. Just like how Gith/Duegar hate Mindflayer. It is very odd to see your dragonborn Tav just admiring dragons.

​@@farn1991 some of the dragons helped the dragonborn so there is respect at least for the white dragons the bronze dragons and the blue dragons

@@farn1991 Some of dragonborns revere their heritage. It's stated that Tiamat has notable following of dragonborns, thus a dragon-respecting dragonborn isn't a total rarity.

Um ok

@@farn1991Ansur isn’t chromatic and some Dragonborn worshipped dragons albeit they were considered outcasts

Friends with sailing ships.

“And they were roommates”

even funnier if you romanced him as dragon born cuz that just mean he have a type

That's f-ed up

"Dear Ansur..." if they ain't gay idk what is

That should've been an option for if you sided with Orpheus. Ansur realizes you aren't an illithid pawn, and chooses to help you.

I tried bringing only Jaheira who has no tadpole (Halsin should be the same) but Ansur still speaks as if she's a slave to the emperor and the prism flies to her despite tav not being near. As much as larian fleshed out our options in many interactions, this one was very on-rails.

Exactly. I think Ansur is a cool dude. Not liking the fact you have to kill him.

1. Cutscene dragon 2. telescope dragon 3. voss dragon

@@michasokoowski6651 none that you interact with is what I meant

This questline was a pure rollercoaster of emotions. Yay, a dragon, I can recruit for the final boss. Aw, the dragon is dead. Hmm, it still talks? Whoah, the Emperor is Balduran? Oh my god, my f***ing emotions, Cool bossfight, massive plot-twist, 2 legendary items, everything. I loved that quest

​@@activekiwi1221 is he that legendary man who founded Baldurs Gate?

@@quint3ssent1a correct

He's also tired of you being stupid and not realising it.

Ansur is completely missable. I have beaten the game twice now, and never encountered him. Same with Qudenos.

​@@collinsmith5978Need to save Wyll's father to get information on Ansur.

@@collinsmith5978i think he means that the interaction with ansus always end in a fight, no matter your choices

​@RazielTheUnborn you don't *have* to save Wyll's dad if you know where and how to get to him. There are some books in Act 3 that even hint at how to get there

If you become Bhaal's Unholy Assassin, you can encounter the blood spirit of another dragon in Dragonborne form

Power difference between a young/adult dragon and an ancient dragon is pretty large in universe (with action economy in acount though no diff)

Elder Bronze dragon could kill a thousand Red young dragons.

Little red dragons would have been an amuse bouche for an Ancient Bronze Dragon.

​@@illythriah793Then how was The Emperor able to kill him? The Emperor is an unusually strong Illithid, but it's still not all that strong.

@@David-ol6fw True true! Haha! I had to revive him at least twice while getting up to the brain.

I just took Brass because it has ass in it.

Dragonborn hate the shit out of Dragons, just like the Gith hate the Illithid. Both were once slaves to these respective masters.

This happened to me too, my first playthrough too!

wait, this is the wyrm you could summon for the final battle? I did not knew that :

​@@Phili89ppno, you must kill him

When bronze metal is in contact with oxygen for a long time it turns green

@@Mazuranicdolazi and?

​​​​@@eyeballpapercut4400it means he's been rotting for a long time and thematically appropriate. If this was what you meant, take the comment as a supplementary to yours for those ignorant of this branch of science, rather than a comment trying to correct you.

@@thesidneychan We'll see what the replier's intent was

@@eyeballpapercut4400 ye thought it was ovbious

There always is *aim with a light crossbow and prepare for a sneak attack*

@@jimmyc2223😂

But no one takes Dungeon Delver, nor have they actually tested it thoroughly. By the wording it sounds like it might give resistance to explosion damage also, and the detect hidden objects buff may boost perception checks.

Wouldn't be much of a DnD game otherwise would it? xD

@@nobodynothing282 I gave my astarion dungeon delver. He can literally stand in a fireball trap and take no damage as it continues to go off.

I mean i didnt trust him to begin with hes a ghaik afterall. And espcially when you turn down hos advances he gets pissy and tells you if he wanted to he could just mind control and grape you and you should thank him for not doing it

@@CodeeXDit’s made clear he’s an ass and a manipulator. He killed his friend because he wanted to have tentacles as well

He basically speaks like a mindflayer, no heart. He speaks like it’s a business transaction but doesn’t try to appeal to your emotions, only thinking logically

@@thunder2275 The sad part of it, that i doesn't think, that has any connection to him being an illithid. He just such a selfish, egoistic b@st@rd, who would do that anyway.

​@@CodeeXDI feel like the only illithid I could trust was Omeluun and dude is essentially a sorta crazy scientist studying mushrooms and trying to find a way to change his ppl so they don't need brains(or be under control)

That is the most bard thing I've seen today. But you are correct. This scene really made me hate the emperor on a new level

I wish there was a way to help them reconcile, just like how I wish there was a way to tell the Emperor to come to his senses and let Orpheus go so we can persuade him to help and don't have to sacrifice anyone. But alas, fanfic is all that remains.

If you like dragons so much you should play pathfinder wrath of the righteous, there your character can learn the dragon form skill depending on your class or choices in the story.

Glad I am not the only one. My sould and body were fighting against this clash the entire time, and I never felt more miserable in my entire RPG life. Watching Ansur then battle, trying to resist his energy leaving his body... too much. A genuine friend, betrayed. And then, betrayed again in his attempt to find some justice.

Honestly, I felt the same way. He always kept saying he never lied to you, yet kept hiding information every single time we asked for the truth. He still lied, despite what he says. Apparently The Emperor forgot the term "Lying by Omission."

@@coloradoblue6929 That's the illithid side of him rearing its head. The PoV of even the most anomalously empathetic mind flayer is basically akin to a high functioning sociopath -- while capable of forming genuine bonds and displays of affection toward others, they care most of all about self-preservation, even if they have to sacrifice their loved ones to achieve it when desperate enough. They find breaching others' established social boundaries, no matter how severe, to be just as easy an act to commit as breathing. Illithid society is domineered by self-preservation, such that the elder brains in the heart of each colony rely on deceiving their illithid supplicants into adding their brain matter to the elder brain upon expiration with lies of joining a perceived notion of a hive mind, when instead they just have all their knowledge stripped bare and identity annihilated afterward. Balduran is dead. The Emperor, for all of his genuine beliefs in himself to be both Balduran and a morally upstanding paragon of virtue who cares about the benefit of all, is merely the tadpole that once rested in his head, now having assimilated his memories and portions of his powerful personality.

​@coloradoblue6929 Also don't forget that in one of the first dream visits he says something like " I too have a tadpole *and wish to be free of it* ". But then you find out that not only has he already undergone ceremorphosis, but he his completely content with being a mindflayer.

​@@overforest1195 Yeah I never fully trusted it, I always felt like it was lying and I was willing to be optimistic at first because Omeluum is nice for an ilithid. But my opinion soured quickly once it offered me the astral touched tadpole. I used it the first time out of curiosity and was horrified at what it did to my tav. Reloaded the save and chose a different option, my trust in th emperor wavered until I was able to finally get it to admit that it had been lying and was manipulating us and despite "promising" that it would help us find a way to get rid of the tadpole. It did not want to help us find a cure it was acting only in its self interest, much like what it did to Duke Stelmane the stuff about her in his hideout and the stuff that Wyll said about her was really the tipping point though. It doesn't care about life, it can say that it is an adventurer like us all it wants. But it's not, Balduran died the second ceramorphosis is complete, his soul is gone and the mindflayer only has an echo of who it used to be, believing that it is Balduran despite that it clearly isn't. Sorry about this being long, the emperor gets me really heated.

doesnt the game end after you kill the emperor?

So... What if I forgot to take him on the quest with me? Btw, did you talk to him after the fact and at camp and long rest? Sometimes the responses aren't always immediate, I've noticed. But yeah.. I completely derped out and forgot to bring him because I thought I had found a secret area. :(

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How can you be betrayed by someone who is supposedly not your friend anymore?

How is that betrayed. Ansur tried to kill the emperor first, in his sleep

@@lmSheep That doesn’t suit the lore of bronze dragons they believe in justice and are commonly good aligned. The emperor if you choose certain options tells you you’re his puppet and nothing more. It’s pretty obvious he’s the ‘bad option’ to side with

@@lmSheep yes, and that would save Baldurans soul. Balduran responded by killing his friend, in order to save the creature that consumed his soul, and killed not just his body, but his very soul. That’s why I said you HAVE TO account for the fact, that that thing is NOT Balduran.

@@Walsinats4 His soul was consume/claim by Illisine the moment he turned into mindflayer, at least that is how Wither understand it. He is a different being than Balduran, that inherit his memories and personality. Mindflayer things. Which is why when the emperor try to court you, he is flirting with the tadpole inside your head.

What does it mean?

@@nabeelahmed7689 "Vrak "means "Child" in Dragon tongue.

Are you saying Balduran was a welder?

You can find his crashed ship where in which you would be kidnapped by mind flayers

Unfortunately many people believe dragonborns are children of dragons or in some way worship dragons. I mean the name can be misleading but if someone did the slightest bit of googling they'd find how rare it is for a dragonborn to even consider the possibility of a dragon being "good", less so risk the possibility of being exiled from their clan for worshiping one.

@@KyloB Well, it depends on the world. In Faerun, they despise them, but the fact, that they created them, still remains. The point missed by a lot - or just doesn't care about it, even if they know -, that the dragons created them to be their servants... And the Dragonborn were unwilling to accept that status (which led to the creation of the kobolds, if i remember correctly). But there are other worlds, where the Dragonborns were created as noble warriors of the Dragons, and the Kobolds as servants - and in these worlds, the Dragonborns look up to the Dragons. ( The world, where me and my group play, our DM made the Dragonborns respecting the Dragons, but not on the level of worshipping them. The Kobolds respects the Dragonborns, and worship the Dragons - but that doesn't mean, they wouldn't attack them, if their circumstances put them on opposite sides, they just consider them then a more noble enemy. )

He isn't. That's a parasite wearing Balduran's mutated body and stolen memories it consumed during Ceremorphosis. The soul is kicked out of the body as the process begins. It only thinks its Balduran because of the strong impressions, memories and well lived life Balduran had. Most Mind Flyer colonies consider that a sign of failure and sickness, an incomplete takeover.

just dump him and free lazael's people lol. He seems like an ass.

The Emperor is a liar and manipulative

Emperor is a real piece of sith

Because he lied the whole game

Was it truly cooperation though? From what I got when reading the book - it was after Gortash captured Emperor and re-introduced him to Elder Brain. Ergo it was not anything like willing cooperation on Emperor's part

I mean Balduran died either way, the Emperor is not Balduran anymore

lmao just juked him into nonexistance? i kinda wanna see that, got a clip of it laying around?

An Undead dragon, who died with feelings of guilt, sadness, and betrayal... I don't think there would be enough clerics, or therapists to sanctify both his mind and remains... :(

It's too late for him. He was slain, and there's no word that resurrection magic could properly bring back something as powerful as a dragon.

@@quint3ssent1a Even as undead, he didn't have to be evil.

@@ceu160193 now, you get it wrong. Technically, he didn't turn evil. It's a Bronze dragon, they are lawfull good in the lore if DnD if I remember correctly... At the very least, helpful toward other species. So, hé wasn't evil in the end... But d*mn was he bloody PISSED ! xD

@@sirjazz1268 He became undead, and undead usually aren't nice towards living.

You don't have to be Dragonborn to find that out. The only difference for the Dragonborn is that one line of dialog.

I was a half-wood elf Bard and got it too. It is related to Wyll's quest.

The Emperor is not Balduran. He does not think of himself as Balduran, just that he used to be Balduran. Ansur tried to save his friend, but what he saved wasn't Balduran it was the parasite. A parasite that had no desire to be destroyed, and returned to the form of its host. Mindflayers created from individuals of strong will maintain a lot of their hosts memories, feelings, and motivation but those things are an echo the tadpole picked up when consuming the host body.

Better to die a hero than to live on as a villain, or worse, a _ghaik._

​@@ComplexityComplex I know right, fucking ghaik, ghaiking all over the place like the ghaiking ghaik they are

@@daqueda1577 "I wont let it potentially, maybe kill you so i will kill you myself" - great logic. Yeah, id off Ansur too.

@@duo1666 Balduran was already a Mindflayer, he wasn't just infected, its revealed he had already transformed. What they are referring to is trying to reverse it. When Ansur figured out that Balduran wasn't coming back, because the brain eating parasite that consumed him wasn't suffeciently influenced by what remained of his psyche, Ansur decided to kill him.

Yeah it would be kinda neat if they did that as a unique racial feat like the did in D&D, it would be as simple as trading the jump for a fly distance and or reduced if not negated fall damage.

If you reached that part you're in the end game and cannot reach Ansur.

Mindflayer wasn't mindflayer back then

to me "and more" meant a deeper level kind of friendship. not homosexuality. i find it weird that people are fantasising with this

Unfortunately no. My Tav is a bronze DA sorcerer and I didn't even notice Ansur was a bronze dragon until after I had killed him.

@@PecarosDGP damn shame. Thanks anyway.

I had the exact playout as a tiefling, idk how unique it is

There isn't even a unique interaction with dragonborn. This isn't an interaction, this is a dialogue choice that has the same response as if you were a human that responded with the basic choices.

I didn't see a unique action here. I had this same interaction as a Gith.

Save Duke Ravenguard and he'll give you a hint to chase down: A great bronze dragon who lives under Baldurs Gate and protects it.

Duke died for me u can still get the mission if u talk or free Flor rick, its a mission for wyll

you can get the dragon without saving the duke or florrick just don't have wyll with you he hard bugged out in my playthrough when i did it

In the Wyrmrest prison, there are so dragon shaped lanterns near a wall. Turn them off, hit them with a lightning spell, turn them on again and the wall will reveal a hidden entrance to the trials. Complete them all and Ansur awaits in the end :)

@@DarkJSN no need to turn them off, just hit with lighitning as you said :P.

The narrator's line about the PC feeling a wave of resentment is Dragonborn-exclusive, I think.

@@easternlights3155 Nah, it's universal.

It's literally just the fact that you understand the draconic term for coward. that is literally it.

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I wish I knew specifics, but I can only make out the Song of Balduran motif

You are literally clicking on and watching a video giving you a scene from the game. I dont think a spoiler warning is necessary for a literal opt in spoiler.

@@duo1666 Eh? It's pretty common to mark out spoilers in game videos.

@@noecarrier5035 Youre.... literally watching gameplay of a game. And the title explicitly states what scene it is going to be. If you are someone who cared about spoilers, both are reasons you shouldnt click on the video. Its like ordering chocolate ice cream and complaining theres chocolate in your ice cream...

@duo1666 The title doesn't actually convey the depth of the secret to be revealed, though, does it? It didn't bother me, I already knew who Ansur was and that the Emperor was Balduran, but it occurred to me that others might not. You should try cultivating some concern for your fellows. It's a positive character trait.

@@noecarrier5035 It doesnt need to convey the depth of anything... if you care about spoilers for a game, you wouldnt watch videos of said game.

Nope. This is a secret boss fight. Go to wyrm’s crossing prison. Down a corridor you’ll find 2 dragon shaped torches. Use lightning damage on them(shocking grasp works best). Beat the trials or fail and fight your way through. Then you fight the dragon. Warning: it is one of the hardest fights in the game. As in if you aren’t lv 12 you aren’t winning. And even then you are going to struggle

Remember it's a Mindflayer... _With character levels._

I know I'm kinda late, but it isn't in the Underdark, it's in a place in act 3 (I won't spoil which place it actually is), you will probably find it if you follow Wyll's questline. I found it by accident on my second playthrough only, so you might wanna google "Ansur bg3" or something. Beware of spoilers tho Good luck!

Yep