How a bushing pivot system works in a balisong, what tuning means, and what floating washer systems are. #balisong #balisongcommunity #balisongflipping
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@Enishidono12 күн бұрын
How random, was just looking this up and figured I wouldn't really be able to find much info... then I clicked on this and was pleasantly surprised. Thanks, cheers 🍻
@darkroomflipper3 ай бұрын
I was researching bushing recently, and from your video I learned that there are different types of bushing. Not many people are talking about it so thanks for the valuable video and your thoughts
@alecgross123 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@DeFunnyMau5Ай бұрын
Awesome video. Somehow this video didn’t pop up the first time I searched about bushings. I too thought the bushing rotating around the pivots before this. Thank you
@alecgross12Ай бұрын
@@DeFunnyMau5 glad it helped!
@overlordmelon23252 ай бұрын
Nice explanation. You got everything right, and I like how you covered the super basic stuff like what the outer diameter means. A lot of technical people struggle to connect that stuff because they forget its not common knowledge. Satisfying sound is determined by how well handles and blade transmit sound between each other. Most important tolerance for that is the diameter of the hole in the blade to the OD of the bushing, and then next is the tune on the bushing. Zen pin material & fit is also very important , but that's mostly on the makers and usually not an issue.
@alecgross122 ай бұрын
Ooooh never thought about the contact between the od of the bushing and the blade hole affecting the sound. Thx for all the comments!
@panickflips Жыл бұрын
even tho I already know the function of bushings and how to tune them this video is insanely helpful and awesome!
@alecgross12 Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! It’s not super complex, but after hearing too many ppl say they’re for “dissipating friction” I had clear it up lol
@darkangel9999 ай бұрын
14:43 That sound is caused by vibration. Metal is an element that’s quite easy to get in vibration because of there structure. All metals have a different frequency depending on there density, the mass and form of that object. There usually two kinds of sounds produced by the vibration for once the air that get moved from the vibration alone and second the sound that comes from metal touching and rubbing against each other because of the vibration. Cutouts effect that sound because the change the overall mass of that object and also direct how the air that carries the sound waves can move. Tolerances in the pivot effect that sound as well because they control how much space is to vibrate. High tolerances should cause an shorter and deeper sound while tight tolerances case an higher and longer ring. Just a guess but that’s probably why it is called tuning to size the bushings and remove play like instruments or tuning forks get tuned.
@justcomplexity23674 күн бұрын
I was the 100th like 😎😌 i also subbed ty w video
@alecgross124 күн бұрын
@@justcomplexity2367 thx man 🎉
@ljfeflips4 ай бұрын
Interesting point about the oil in a floating washer system. I think the main advantage of a floating washer system is that you can sand down the washers if you accidentally undersize the bushing. So you can’t mess up when you’re tuning a bushing. However, I’ve had real problems tuning floating washer systems. I always get one handle that ends up stuttering. I think it’s because the shitty clone washers have a burr on one side (or bent washers). Because, with a floating washer system, you have friction on both sides of the washer.
@alecgross124 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s another possible advantage… but you could start to run into an issue where the bushing isn’t the same size as the zen pins, in which case the handles won’t be parallel and they’ll push against the washers. That might be what’s happening with your “stuttering”
@ljfeflips4 ай бұрын
@@alecgross12 right! The only Balis I have owned with floating washers were pinsless though (TheOne G10 Orca and TheOne Nami). However, I was still worried that I went too small with the bushings. The handle flanges may not have been parallel enough when the screws were tightened. Idk though, TheOne G10 Orca was stuttery out of the box! So I think it was shitty washers. Plus, a G10 handle moving against a bronze washer seems like a terrible design. So I sold that one. Moral of the story is that floating washers are a bitch to tune lol. I tried reaching out to a few professional modders about tuning my TheOne Nami. They said they can’t guarantee a great tune even if I give them extra hardware. So I’ve been trying to live with a bali that has a small amount of tap :(
@alecgross124 ай бұрын
@@ljfeflips humanevolution converted his theone nami to normal bushings. I did the same for my b+ squiggle rep (which came on floating washers), just posted a short of it came out sounding fantastic
@lilGyros7 ай бұрын
very nice video thank you
@snoozedragon2914 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video!
@-p0op0oАй бұрын
What is the difference between bushings pivot system and regular washer pivot system?? 🤔
@alecgross12Ай бұрын
@@-p0op0o regular washer pivot system has no bushing, so the washers are right up against the blade. If you tighten the handles down they don’t swing. They have to be loose and held in place with thread lock or teflon tape
@tuna3027 Жыл бұрын
10:22 You are saying that the washers are getting thinner in two ways, one is by getting compressed this one is clear, but then you say that the second reason is that the washer is getting shaved off because of the friction with the blade, but we know even you said it earlier that they dont contact because the bushing is holding it away from the blade. So am I right and the second statement is not correct or I just dont get something?
@alecgross12 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm… good question. My understanding is that the bushing separates the washers from each other, but not from the blade. The blade actually slides up and down the bushing and is usually making contact with one or the other of the washers. The washers are actually what prevents the blade from hitting the inside of the handles, right? So the bushing holds the washers at a fixed distance very close to the blade, but the bushing itself doesn’t prevent blade play - the washers do. Does that kinda make sense?
@alecgross12 Жыл бұрын
In other words, if the washers are too loose (far from the blade, oversized bushings), the blade can wiggle back and forth and hit the insides of the handles. If the washers are too tight (rubbing hard against the blade, undersized bushings) they prevent swing. So the bushing holds the washers in the sweet spot where there’s not too much friction between the washers and the blade to prevent swing - but there’s still enough friction to prevent play.
@tuna3027 Жыл бұрын
@@alecgross12 Thanks this comment explains it
@ryancarew4093 Жыл бұрын
I think the sound has a lot to do with cutouts in handes and how tight/loose the zen pins are. I think the cutouts determine the ring of a knife and then zens determine the bounce, but I’m also no expert lmao
@alecgross12 Жыл бұрын
I think those two things are definitely true!
@TheBootyWrangler Жыл бұрын
Cutouts in the blade can produce an even more defined ring than the handle… think tuning fork blade
@binnguyen986 Жыл бұрын
So does that mean if my Balisong was perfectly tuned when it arrived and gets play and tap after flipping it for a while, if I can’t get it back to no tap and no play, I just need to replace the washers?
@alecgross12 Жыл бұрын
That should definitely be your first move, yes.
@walkingw410510 ай бұрын
hey i was wondering how to find out the size of bushing needed? got a rep and they dont have it listed so im not sure if i should just hold them up to other ones or if theres a better way.