Table of contents (roughly) :) 00:00 Intro 11:38 Equipment and software 22:11 Paper 47:20 Colour Management 1:05:39 Resolution
@filippkashirtsev71703 жыл бұрын
Still very relevant and informative, 7 years later. Thank you!
@HoldMyData2 жыл бұрын
And one more year after that! Thank you B&H!
@OrelRussia2 жыл бұрын
@@HoldMyData And two more months after that.
@DavidDufourq7 жыл бұрын
I've watched countless hours about color management when trying to get my head around it, and I have to say this guy's knowledge is so accurate with everything! Really great job!
@FatTonyCologino10 жыл бұрын
The feeling of getting a print in your hands is so much more fulfilling than a digital image. I've loved that feeling since I was 5 yrs old getting my snapshots developed at the local pharmacy lol.
@michaelricco813 жыл бұрын
I am watching this video for the first time (November 11, 2020) and am totally blown away by the level of detail and information that is contained in it. Thank you :)
@mark-davidchandler58954 жыл бұрын
2020 here, we need an updated version of this information! thanks!
@Jenalgo3 жыл бұрын
A)This information hasn't changed and B) you are a dummy. There's your update.
@atxjaphotos42172 жыл бұрын
@@Jenalgo username checks out
@anima60352 жыл бұрын
2022 👋 someone please help
@375kg Жыл бұрын
even after 10 years this lecture is very informative - thank You!
@BandH Жыл бұрын
that's why we keep them up. glad you enjoyed the video.
@BandH9 жыл бұрын
+Kelly Greenidge Everything presented in this workshop is still valid today. Only the mentioned software (Lightroom CC instead of Lightroom 4) and new printers (Epson SureColor P-800 instead of the 3880) have been updated. The printhead technology, color management, color space, etc have not changed. Steven C askbh@bandh.com
@vproven6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Effective and informative presentation. Thank you.
@Haldered Жыл бұрын
I needed a refresher since it had been years since I studied digital printing at uni, and this video was more informative than my entire course!
@alohaleslie94073 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Robert! Perfect timing as I'm just now learning all there is to know about printing, etc. Lots to digest but I think because B&H presents these long tutorials/workshops, I learn so much more.
@karennelson44997 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these in-depth classes that B&H has made available. I have learned so much.
@romiemiller30933 жыл бұрын
My go-to paper is Canson Baryta Photographique.
@BandH11 жыл бұрын
Glad you like our presentations and thank you for watching.
@BandH11 жыл бұрын
Most welcome and thank you for watching.
@TheMikeLev9 жыл бұрын
I have watched this video twice .. excellent presentation. Thanks Robert, thanks B&H.
@MattTaggart8 жыл бұрын
Really a fantastic seminar - I love going through B&H Event Space archives
@MLC485 жыл бұрын
WOW! This guy covers everything about printing! Fabulous; thanks.
@BandH5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Mary!
@bjoernsviewsbjornwolfmulle32952 жыл бұрын
Great video with so much information about printing, even though it is almost 9 years old you still get all relevant information. Aaaaand the Wilhelm-research page still looks the same :)
@vmatt Жыл бұрын
Most excellent presentation. I learned a lot, though I struggled with "longetivity". It hurt no one corrected him. One hopes that nine years later, he knows longevity is longevity.
@cruikshank7 жыл бұрын
Excellent, I loved Roberts speaking & teaching style. He really explained photo inkjet printing clearly. I look forward to watching more of your videos, and putting what I learned into practice on my Canon Pixma Pro Printers.
@goodwira259 жыл бұрын
Thanks to B&H for broadcasting this very interesting lecture. I hope I have learnt the lessons Robert was talking about, at the very least I am now more knowledgeable about the whole topic.
@rajsingharora111 жыл бұрын
the best videos on photography and everything associated with it.
@jody16227 жыл бұрын
I loved this presentation. It tied so many of the separate aspects together. I would however like to see a presentation using less professional equipment I.e. smaller matt cutter, 13" printers etc. Also would like to hear more about sourcing pre cut mats and glass etc. I love to print and frame ...
@bcdigiart14111 жыл бұрын
This seminar is very helpful. I am a amateur photographer who is wanting to get the most from my new NIKON camera. I have a Pixma Pro9000 Canon and I was surprised at how accurate the output was right from the start using Canons print driver and paper profiles. It does take a lot of trial and error with the output. Thanks much for sharing your know how and experience.
@robertalexander24785 жыл бұрын
Total class act!!! Subscribed to his channel a couple days ago. Very clear, concise, and straight forward. Looking forward to more videos from him, hell, wish I could meet him. Excellent work!!!
@parigerami20058 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I learnt lots. Hope you do more videos on printing. I love to get more technical about it.
@edgardocandelavelazco737411 жыл бұрын
All that we need to know about this industry, Excellent and congratulations to the expositor.
@andreafine43910 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, serious explanation of all things printable. Great talk about bit depth, srgb pro rgb etc.
@romiemiller78763 жыл бұрын
Canson Baryta Photographique (spelling?) has the "F" type surface, and it has fantastic definition and separation in black and gray in black & white photos, and colors are also excellent; I always export from Lightroom to Photoshop for resizing & printing as .tif files. I have Photoshop manage the colors in my Canon printer because I like the results better. I haven't tried printing raw files from Lightroom.
@BandH11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your suggestion - that's a great idea and we'll pass it along to the Event Space booking staff.
@selvinortiz10 жыл бұрын
Very good intro, nicely done Robert. There is one detail that I think you may have missed in regards to resolution when it comes to display devices and that is, Pixel Density. Which is not really relevant for printing but it does make a difference when going from a device that has the standard pixel density to one that has a higher density like Retina display devices. Thanks Robert and B&H for this informative talk!
@SMorgan7724 жыл бұрын
Finally...just what I have been looking for. All my questions answered in a way that I understand. Thank you B&H.
@BandH4 жыл бұрын
We're glad to hear this!
@ajkubes34559 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thorough presentation with loads of info. Particularly enjoyed the bit depth & colour space topics, thanks for uploading!
@joc12877 жыл бұрын
At 1:26:30, the presenter stated that in evaluating the test print any discrepancies could be related to workflow, paper profile, or monitor calibration. I don't recall him mentioning that it could also be the capability of the printer. It could be as simple as changing the blacks used or having a printer incapable of printing certain tones.
@TypeR-10 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! Thank you very much for the detailed information. Keep bringing Robert back.
@andreabrunno4 жыл бұрын
Perfect, It was something that was looking for... for a long time, glad I ended up here! Thanks for share.
@FranciscoAbreuMusic4 жыл бұрын
Loved this and this was great for people that are serious and really into printing. Really like Robert Rodriguez and follow his youtube channel. He does do a mistake here when explaining Rendering intents, wrongly switches the explanation of each of them, though the presentation figure on the back seems to be correct. An absolute normal distraction for sure. Thank you.
@romiemiller30934 жыл бұрын
Correct: Editing should be done with the end process as the goal. If your primary goal is a print, then shooting the photo and "post processing" and printing is all one process even if a lab does the printing.
@BandH10 жыл бұрын
At one time, dye-sub printers were the benchmark for their continuous tone ability. Ink jet print heads have become so refined that it's almost impossible to distinguish well made Ink Jet prints them from wet traditional prints. The one drawback was the choice of media was limited to the dye-sub printer model. C h u c k askbh{at}bandh{dot}com
@hoasivilay8 жыл бұрын
this is very informative presentation for a beginner like myself. Thank you for putting out such a high quality and instructive video!
@mbabiak10011 жыл бұрын
There are numerous printer manufacturers however most are not focused on fine art photo printing and as such they lack the selection of inks, papers and associated ICC profiles. So, as stated it comes down to the three companies mentioned.
@metals25467 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Thank you to Robert and B&H.
@mnash37 жыл бұрын
Excellent . I really enjoyed this presentation. I even took notes... Too much to rehash here, but definitely thank you for sharing your experience.
@CAMELEON17213 жыл бұрын
If I take pictures by photo (Android), I hope you can also take a picture. For example, I have a photo taken while driving, it came out very interesting, not affected. I can try to make a picture of it. I'm just waiting for the new Epson Expression Premium XP - 6000 printer. I used Epson before, but XP - 600
@tonyleventis64755 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tutorial, thanks for an invaluable insight. Can’t wait for some more tutorials
@romiemiller30934 жыл бұрын
Canson Baryta Photgraphique has fantastic black hold out.
@MarkMetternichPhotographyLLC5 жыл бұрын
Great video! However printing from Raw is not the best. There are still a ton of things that can improve an image in Photoshop as a rasterized 16 bit Tiff that will create WAY better results for the output print.
@TooFarWest19 жыл бұрын
mahadragon: Clearly this video was for people who print, like me. It isn't that Robert is out of touch, it's that you are. You really think professional or serious amateur photographers don't print photos? When you step into a photo gallery you see what - blank white walls? You're saying no residential home should have a photo print on the wall anymore because you can look at that same image on an iPad or iPhone? No art school, gallery, home, store, restaurant, cafe, coffee shop, hotel, bar, nightclub, school, hospital, or any institute of any kind, should have a photographic print on their wall because they should only be viewing images on some idiotic electronic device the size of a matchbook, or at its biggest, a computer screen? You mean, that in the year 2014, nobody, and I mean nobody, should dare give a photographic print to any other living human being as a gift merely because they can zip that image over to them on their iPhone with a touch of their thumb, and that embryonic-size image will retain all the same visceral impact as a 20x30 print? Thanks for the education.
@tobyhawkins7 жыл бұрын
Really informative (as per usual from these B&H videos). My only question is at 55 minutes in, shouldn't gray be set to sGray instead of Dot Gain 20%? From what I understand, dot gain 20% is appropriate for cmyk printing; my local print shop suggests using sGray in rgb printing. Then again, maybe it doesn't make a difference in gicleé prints?
@relinquis10 жыл бұрын
thanks for the prompt reply. i haven't used ink jet for photos yet (only dye-sub so far). might try it out for a change to see what the differences are on different media.
@MyredheelerAu10 жыл бұрын
excellent video presentation!! I really enjoyed watching such educative piece of video. Digital printing is an important aspect for photographers and this video will be educative for viewers. Thanks.
@aDotFromTheFuture8 жыл бұрын
They really should stop using those "Keep calm" posters...
@smileypancake4326 жыл бұрын
Great presentation... still valid information in early 2018.
@TheJustindolbear3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the helpful information i got from this.
@casualtmusic5 жыл бұрын
So much valuable information in this presentation... Thanks for sharing this!
@BandH5 жыл бұрын
We’re glad you enjoyed!
@michaelricco813 жыл бұрын
I am using high quality paper including Canson and Moab. My photography is mainly landscape, wildlife and abstract. As soon as I turn on ink and paper simulation during the soft proofing process, my image becomes dull and generally that is how it will print. I install the appropriate ICC and pretty well follow the proper print process with within LR. I've googled this issue and I've come across other folks who have encountered this. The suggested fixes are many and varied with some folks stating that matte paper will always produce a duller print than what is viewed on the monitor. Any comments would be most appreciated.
@BandH3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your inquiry. We invite you to contact us directly via our Live Chat feature on the B&H Website so we can go over your options in greater detail. We're available via Live Chat until 8PM ET this evening.
@cruikshank7 жыл бұрын
Loved this tutorial. One question and or comment. Robert mentioned that sRGB is a small space used for images on the Internet. My Photo Lab Mpix-Pro requires images sent to them to be printed on photographic paper use the sRGB space. If I send them to them, or even Sam's or Walmart as Adobe 98 or Adobe Pro the prints come back off color. I learned this the hard way on clients images I printed at both places. Once I changed to sRGB the color matched my calibrated monitor and the scene as shot with my Nikon D7000.
@tobyhawkins7 жыл бұрын
Dave Cruikshank I don't know your local photo lab, but Walmart really isn't a good benchmark for quality or attention to detail. Most specialist (independent) photo labs will have their own icc profiles they provide. With both my local labs, I have to convert an image to the relevant icc for the print process I want them to perform, then send them my converted image.
@ericatuttle28287 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video, it is incredibly helpful.
@liningtan2548 жыл бұрын
Really helpful, thanks!
@romiemiller30933 жыл бұрын
You can go from ON1 to Lightroom or Photoshop, but if so, you can't go back and do any editing in ON1 without the image being corrupted. I'm about to give up on ON1.
@stevenjwebber5 жыл бұрын
I like how he described the misnomer about ppi vs dpi. Then proceeds to use them incorrectly in his discussion. How are we suppose to get across the differences if its constantly used incorrectly! people today are STILL telling people to export at a certain pixel size for said social media platform or websites at 72 ppi. LR should not even have that resolution active unless sizing is in "Inches or cm"
@BandH11 жыл бұрын
DNG is LR's native editing format and a file will be converted to a TIFF or JPEG for printing. B&W printing is best down using a printer with monochrome inks and the printer's driver settings for B&W prints. IR images would be printed the same as regular color. TIFF and PSD files are both uncompressed and only a TIFF file would offer compatibility with non Adobe programs. C h u c k askbh{at}bandh{dot}com
@africanbj3 жыл бұрын
Nebraska Tappin In
@verlicht8 жыл бұрын
Epson also has new heads for their printers and it costs the same as the Canon heads...
@evenkonda19224 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gud this is just intro for 115 minutes, imagine how long a walk through would be. Two Weeks ?
@sundeepsembi60915 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation
@Rusty1995_11 жыл бұрын
Well I guess I live next to this guys studio hahah :) pretty cool
@jamiebee4088 жыл бұрын
I learned so much! Very informative!
@MacGeek3510 жыл бұрын
so indepth. Will the 3880 be ok for colour graphic work and typography rather than photos?
@Keithdotson9 жыл бұрын
Very good info - thank you!
@myoung482819 жыл бұрын
I've printed images at 96dpi and at 360dpi, there is very little difference. The printer interpolates up the native resolution very well.
@cgn109 жыл бұрын
mark y at what size?
@myoung482819 жыл бұрын
Carlos Novoa I tried it at 8x10 inches and also 11x14
@cgn109 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Thanks for replying.
@myoung482819 жыл бұрын
Carlos Novoa Try a test print and see what you think.
@andrewford808 жыл бұрын
So for an 8x10 you're looking at 768 x 960 pixels? If so, I have done tests like this before. My reasoning was I worked somewhere where I was responsible for data storage and backup and I was trying to convince our users that they didn't need to scan and store at 600dpi. Anyway, same image at 600, 300, 200 and 150 dpi. There was no discernible difference at 300dpi. 200 was slightly less detailed and 150 was starting to look pretty bad. So I'm not saying you're wrong, but in my tests, I wouldn't want to print a photo below about 250. 300 ideally for smaller prints. Your mileage may vary of course :)
@TheMikeLev11 жыл бұрын
Very informative - well explained .. thank you B&H for this and other great educational videos
@ellonysman6 жыл бұрын
I make art from photos but want it look like it’s on real water color paper without gloss like most Walmart or drug store developing. Any suggestion?
@dank53727 жыл бұрын
Hi Robert Thank you for the videos. They are great.. can I ask you something. If I export photos with no size but at 100% quality with dpi of 300 ,are those in good quality to post on web,Instagram,Facebook or would I have to go down with the dpi to 72 And if you shoot portraits or wedding, what size would you convert it to ,for good quality to print and use them online with clients Thank you
@dmac5x16 жыл бұрын
Another great video !
@MT-jf1tn11 жыл бұрын
i will love if you guys have more information abut cmyk ! because when I print my photos of food loses the quality because the print shop want cmyk
@meltdownman111 жыл бұрын
Several questions: Does converting from Raw to DNG in LR affect the workflow through the printing process and if so how so (eg color space, calibration, etc.) When printing b&w does it matter what color space should u be working in (eg SRGB, CMYK, pro) and should you calibrate while viewing in B&W? When printing infared images is the workflow any different thru the printing procecess (eg ink selection, color space monitor calib printer calibration When xferring to PS use TIFF or PSD and why?
@relinquis10 жыл бұрын
interesting talk... i wonder how dye sublimation printing fits into all of this.
@asjasj12311 жыл бұрын
thanks for the great stuff. I have learned a lot.
@christopherbryant72557 ай бұрын
TY
@godofhope5 жыл бұрын
Ich habe meine alten Kameras ausgetauscht gegen neue. Nicht dass die neuen viel bessere Qualität abliefern. Es gibt aber so Sachen wie Autofokus, do in keinem Fall die 6D Mark II der alten 5D Mark II haushoch überlegen ist. Vögel Fotografieren ist jetzt viel einfacher. Tja und manchmal muss das ISO hoch und da sieht man den Unterschied aber deutlich.
@ADFCHRONICLES6 жыл бұрын
very helpful thank you.
@manasarvind6 жыл бұрын
very relevant. Thanks!
@arditastefani95465 жыл бұрын
I Love your channel !
@eddybax15 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk sir! 👍
@BandH5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@hera18666 ай бұрын
Hello anyone tell me how to add bleeds ?
@Siftedheart5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ❤️
@edwassermann83686 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!
@Zionfarm9 жыл бұрын
Does this advice/workshop still apply today with the advance in printing?
@cybergrief11 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@javiermateo90748 жыл бұрын
NICE WORK
@gladheateher4now10 жыл бұрын
Hi, i take alot of panoramics. Do you know how i can sign them electronicly ? Thanks
@BandH10 жыл бұрын
There are many options for adding a signature on a photo. You can scan a copy of your signature, and then in Photoshop remove the background. If you save it in a format that supports transparent backgrounds, you can then superimpose this over your photos. For the best results, you would want to make a TrueType font from your own signature. If you Google "TrueType font signature", you can find software online for this, or companies who offer this service. Christina- askbh@bandh.com
@photoalexiou8 жыл бұрын
HI..I GOT A NEC SPECTRAVIEW MOTITOR AND I HAVE CALIBRATED WITH COLOMUNKI PHOTO AT RGB1998..I SHOOT RAW AND USE ADOBE CAMERA RAW AND PHOTOSHOP FOR EDITING..I TURNED BOTH PROGRAMMS TO THE COLOR PROFILE THAT I HAVE CREATE..SO FAR AM I RIGHT? HAS ANY POINT TO TURN THE PROGRAMMS TO PRO PHOTO?
@BandH8 жыл бұрын
+Γιώργος Αλεξίου Adobe RGB 1998 was designed (by Adobe Systems, Inc.) to encompass most of the colors achievable on CMYK printers, but by using only RGB primary colors on a device such as your computer display. ProPhoto RGB is just about the widest color space. However, because it is so wide, it can give you all kinds of grief if you don't know exactly what you are doing. For example, if you do not have a full understanding of color space (working spaces in Photoshop), or the differences between sRGB, Adobe RGB and ProPhoto RGB, or a full understand the differences between 8-bit and 16-bit depth, then I highly recommend to not convert or use ProPhoto RGB. It contains many more colors than you can see on any monitor, it even encompasses what can only be termed "theoretical colors" because they're outside the visible color range in the physical world. The advantages of ProPhoto RGB is that it's the only color space that can contain all the colors your image can capture in raw and all the colors that today's wide gamut printers can print. If you are going to use ProPhoto RGB, you'll need to work on 16-bit images to avoid potential banding. Also, if you are converting images from a large Color Space like ProPhoto RGB to a smaller one (for example when preparing an image to be CMYK printed commercially) the results can suffer especially when working in 8bit. Steven C askbh@bandhphoto.com
@Gr1ff1D011 ай бұрын
looking at this eight years later. I wonder how much of this he would need to change now? Some of this information is now dated but they seem to be about preferences, which may have been justified at the time but are now no longer applicable. That's entirely understandable.
@BrianMorrisPhoto3 жыл бұрын
bias to the middle?
@lvsfineartssurvey7 жыл бұрын
The word Giclee refers to making copies of original art, such as a painting or drawing, not to print a photograph. A photograph is original because it must be printed in some form. A photograph of someone else's art work is not original art. There is a whole industry of artists who sell copies of their paintings a giclee prints for a cheap way to sell their work. It is basically akin to the lithographic copies of art work created for mass sale or the posters of art work in a museum.
@robinhorton32517 жыл бұрын
leslie elliottsmith The word actualy referes to a print made from an inkjet printer, its a French word, it has nothing to do with who owns the file.
@lvsfineartssurvey7 жыл бұрын
True but the word may mean one thing and the intention and perception quite another. All digital photographs have to be printed on some type of printer, typically inkjet. I would not term my photographic prints as glicee prints although I print them on Epson Pro 3800 or Canon Pro 9000 printers. Prior to digital photography becoming so prevalent, visual artists would create knock off prints of their original paintings or drawings and sell them in editions called glicee prints. The name has become known for works that were not original works of art and this perception continues..
@bfbaril6 жыл бұрын
The word giclée is French past-tense of spray, sprinkle, or squirt. With regards to printing, it was used because Jack Duganne didn't want his fine art inkjet printers to be negatively associated to inkjet printers that produced lesser quality prints. It has evolved to include other types of inkjet printing that uses archival inks or substrates. Most importantly, gicler (and it's conjugations) are French slang for ejaculating. Duganne did not know this.
@wassim23644 жыл бұрын
Ty
@sumitagg15 жыл бұрын
Most print shops require srgb
@Guscastillonj11 жыл бұрын
he was referring only to manufacturers that produce high quality photo printers with pigment based inks.
@katerina575710 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very informative video, I learned a lot! I wonder what is your opinion on Canson Baryta paper?
@BandH10 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent fine art archival paper with a pearl finish and a white base. It is very reminiscent of darkroom paper from its thickness and feel.