The Stone Roses would be a good example: debut is from 1989 and it took them 5 years to come up with album number 2.

Popoff and Pardo are at it again to discuss why timing (often is) everything. Great picks and several mentioned that would be on any personal list. But also on that list would be Chinese Democracy by Guns N' Roses and Dire Straits follow-up to Brothers In Arms. For the first, lost complete interest in the band by that time; for the second, still loved the band but a bit of a wait and did not help keep them in the public eye in the days of MTV. Thanks, gents, for another interesting show. Really looking forward to the next obscure albums show but a favor to ask. Please consider posting a list of each in the comments for those of us who may need to track down those selected for further listening. Thanks again, Martin and Pete. A favorite part of Friday each week. There ya go!

Definitely The Brady Bunch. A 20 year gap from "The Brady Bunch Phonographic Album" to "It's a Sunshine Day: The Best of the Brady Bunch". They were on fire in '73 with hits like "Time To Change" and "It's A Sunshine Day". Then they wait 20 years to do a follow up and it's basically just a greatest hits album.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - 'The Final Cut' is wonderful. It couldn't have come out pre-1982 because it was greatly inspired by the events of the Falklands War in that year. I think British fans perhaps feel closer to the album because it really explores the emotional damage done to people in Britain during WW2 and other conflicts. Obviously people all over the world lost love ones in that period, but Waters was exploring a particularly English response to pain ('button your lip, don't let the shield slip'). It's my favourite Pink Floyd album. They did 31 shows in total for 'The Wall'. They performed it 18 times in 1980 (Los Angeles, Long Island, London) and 13 times in 1981 (Dortmund and London again).

After Peter Gabriel did 'So', his focus was the music for Martin Scorsese's film 'The Last Temptation Of Christ,' and then further developing the soundtrack into the 'Passion' album, which is a masterpiece of world music. That's why there was such a big gap between 'So' and 'Us'.

On that "Big Generator" YES album, "Shoot High Aim Low" is a masterpiece! Beautiful drumming on that song. Pete was right about that album. YES waited too long with "Big Generator". That album ironically has a rushed, unfinished vibe to it though. A very quirky collection of songs put together. Overall, I still like it.

It’s Raining Again had a lot of air play in Canada, but nothing compared to Breakfast. Brother Where You Bound was a breath of fresh air.

To dive deep into pop music, how about Lionel Richie from 1986’s “Dancing on the Ceiling “ (4 million copies) to 1996’s “Louder than Words” (28 thousand copies). Lionel Richie was highly successful with “Can’t Slow Down” (1983) ( 20 million copies) and “Dancing on the Ceiling”. Lionel took too long of a studio album break and was “old fashioned” ( by Entertainment Weekly) a full decade later.

Martin and Pete are amazing. I look forward to this show every Friday

My recollection is that it took so long for Boston's Third Stage to be made that Tom S had to invent (or find someone else who did) "baking the tapes" to stop the oxides from sticking to the tape machines. This is a practice in wide use now to rescue old analog reel to reels.

Jellyfish - Spilt Milk (3 years, everything changed), Bogmen - Closed Caption Radio (same), Eric Johnson - Venus Isle (6 years!), Dire Straits - On Every St. (same), BOC - Revolution by Night (failed to capitalize on Fire of Unknown Origin)

I used to see Angel Witch play live regularly in the late 70s early 80s at a rock pub in East London called the Ruskin Arms, I always remember Kevin Heybourne wearing thigh high leather boots, a great guitarist and vocalist, as Martin rightly says a very underrated band that never reached the heights that they deserved, I agree that there latest albums are also very good, Maiden used to play regularly at the Ruskin Arms too but I never got to see them there, great show as always 👍

Dire Straits. Took them over 6 1/2 years to release a follow-up to Brothers in Arms and US sales dropped from 9 to 1 million.

My mountain bike is so old I'm considering taking it to the Antiques Road Show. Re: Peter Gabriel' 'So': It really was a massive album, very radio-friendly, and he had great videos. But..it was too long to wait for the follow up album. Things had moved on.

I think I love hearing you guys chatting about this and that, as much as about the music. Great chemistry and it’s like I’m having coffee with some buddies.

I will never forget my first introduction to the "CULT"... I was 13 years old playing baseball in the Northeast. We won state junior senior leagues back in ohhhh 1987/1988 ish. Have to check my scrapbooks. Our coaches were Awesome. They were barely 20 and we all hit the road on our way to the bigtime. Springfield, Mass, and then on to Jersey for the Championships. We traveled in vans provided by donations and family. Upper little leaguers. We stayed at the Howard Johnson and others. We thought we were such badass like the "Bad news Bears". Our head coach and assistant played us the Cult "Electric" on a night off while bunkering on the trip and they were air guitaring and air drumming all of these songs. I will never forget those times. "Wild Flower", "Love Removal Machine", "Born to be Wild", etc. What a tight sounding record. Timeless. Love the show guys. The best!

I think Boston (or Tom Scholz, really) could be the poster child for this topic. They still did fine, overall. EDIT: Funnily enough, just now saw the part where Pete picked Boston, and he applied the 'poster child' descriptor to the band as well, lol!

Another great video guys. Oh, by the way, I saw you both on the Reelz thing on TV about Whitesnake. Big congratulations fellas. That was absolutely awesome. You're both great guys, super knowledgeable, passionate about music........ that was so well deserved. I hope you both continue to blow up.

Kansas: 7 years after releasing " In the Spirit of Things ", releasing " Freaks of Nature ". Freaks was an excellent album, but, at that time, people just weren't looking for prog music, and the single " Hope Once Again " didn't do well. Also Kansas: Waiting 16 years between " Somewhere To Elsewhere " and " The Prelude Implicit " nearly ended their carreer( due to Steve Walsh refusing to do new music during this time) Dire Straits: On Every Street, six years after " Brothers In Arms ". Street was an excellent album, but didn't sell...Dire Straits had dropped off the radar. This was by Mark Knopfler's choice...he was physically and mentally burned out from the " Brothers In Arms " experience. Supertramp: Waiting until the mid 1990s to release " Some Things Never Change " album. Between the " Free As A Bird " album flopping, and the long wait( and the Hodgson/Davies feud)Supertramp was largely forgotten. And Some Things was mediocre...Waiting three years to release " Famous Last Words " after " Breakfast in America " merits mention also( thanks Pete) Boston is the definition of the topic

Steely Dan were about a year late in following up Aja. By the time Gaucho came out, most people had moved on.

Great video and topic! Really enjoyed the list. I imagine it’s a delicate balancing act between striking while the iron is hot, and rushing a poor album out just to keep the momentum going.

Great picks for this topic . Very entertaining . Thanks !

The Wallflowers had a huge album in 1996 with Bringing Down the Horse. One Headlight and three other songs getting a lot of airplay. Then they wait until 2000 to release the follow-up, (Breach). They killed all their momentum and the rock scene changed. Sleepwalker was a good comeback single, but at that point it didn't matter.

Fantastic show guys as always. Awesome choices 👌

One that springs to mind is Entombed. They released three death metal classics in the early 90s, then waited four years to release 'to ride shoot straight and speak the truth', though I love the album, lots of people don't, even I have to admit it's not as good! Also Extreme. Waited three years to release the grungy 'Waiting for the punchline' in 1995 by which time grunge was already past its peak. Finally The Stone Roses (not the usual SOT stuff but definitely fit here.) Five years between albums, classic self titled debut, over blown disappointing second album. Great video!!

I have always felt a young band just signed to a label should always hold back two or three of thier best songs for thier second release. You write enough material, and regardles of what the record company wants, you keep a few gems shelved so you can have that same fire in your next lp. It is a risky move, but it makes a lot of business sense. Just my thoughts

Dire Straits waiting 6 years between albums comes to mind: Brothers In Arms (1985) went multiplatinum but On Every Street (1991) barely went platinum (and they disbanded a few years after that).

Already looking forward to next weeks show Take care guys.

I read somewhere that Pink Floyd could only do a short tour of 'the Wall' because of how massively expensive the production was. That's why nowadays, artists with big productions have to do lots of shows, so that they can break even about halfway through the tour before they start making a profit.

I'm actually a bigger fan of The Final Cut than I am of The Wall. By the way, the reason that The Wall shows back in the day were not extensively toured? They were ridiculously expensive to put on. The ONLY member of Floyd, ironically, who made money from these shows was Rick Wright, who had been relegated to a hired-on musician for the tour. So, he made some nice bank!

Great show again guys!. Good points with all of your choices ...also remember the internal strife in the bands like Floyd and Supertramp at the time of their delays did not help the groups flourish either

Thanks for this episode. Keep up the good work.

Talking about Supertramp. It’s difficult to believe now, but in the eighties, seventies bands were considered out. One thing change everything in 1981, and it was MTV. Supertramp were not a band made for MTV, and it affected them and a lot of seventies bands.

This was a good one, thanks guys. We love The Cult and have always followed them, still do. No one really sounds quite like them, especially with Ian’s vocals.🎧🔥

That BOC thing with not going with what was musically happening was a good point. Their music could be argued to fit into any rock genre - maybe hair metal no so much - but the respect they could of got with a strong album in 85 would of been enormous. I still like Club Ninja but it needed to sound a bit more meaty and heavier.

Big shout out to MARTIN I just got his book RUSH ,ALBUM BY ALBUM ITS FANTASTIC,MY FRIDAY EVENING WILL BE A FEW BEERS LISTENING TO RUSH CDS AND READING ABIUT THEM IN THIS BEAUTIFULLY INFORMATIVE BOOK

Evergrey releasing a new album a year after ‘Escape of the Phoenix’ is so unusual for 2022. They’re one of the very few bands operating on that 70s/early 80s release schedule.

1)The Cars Hearbeat City 1984 4x Platinum to Door To Door 1987 only went Gold. 2)Bad Company Desolation Angels 1979 2x Platinum to Rough Diamonds 1982 did not certify. 3)Foreigner Inside Information 1987 Platinum to 1991 Unusual Heat did not certify. 4) Inxs Kick 1987 6x Platinum to X 1990 2x Platinum

I’ve commented on a few SoT videos that music in the early 80s was dominated by MTV. Here’s an idea for a show: Bands/Artists that MTV really helped gain mega-sales of albums, and some acts that maybe were hurt by the presence of MTV (either they didn’t make videos or they were bad or not photogenic or whatever). That would be interesting.

I remember reading a prophetic quote from an album critique of Boston's 1994 Walk On. "We'll see the next new release in another 8 years".

“It was long ago, and it was far away, and it was so much better than it is today”.. seems quite fitting for this entire episode, and works even better with Pete’s pick at the end there. Really cool episode idea, I hope yinz do this again. 🤘✌️❤️♾

Much as I love the first few Boston albums, waiting up to 8 years per album for mediocrity at best is just gutting

YES PETE. Ranking The Cult. Been waiting a year for this ranking. On the concept of the show I would say GNR taking 10 yrs for a new album , along with Axel being an ass, really screwed their career. They were HUGE back then and could have stayed there for a long time. Jane’s Addiction I think is another band.

I happen to believe that The Cult's electric is one of the best rock albums ever made.

If we are talking debut albums: Nada Surf, Kelli Ali, Babylon Zoo, Mary Weiss, OMC, off the top of my head... If we are talking sophomore albums and beyong: t.A.T.u, Babes in Toyland, Urge Overkill, Blind Melon, The Prodigy (fat of the land), Michael Jackson (Invincible), Marilyn Manson (Eat me, Drink me), Dinosaur Jr (Hand it Over), Jesus Jones (Already), Cyndi Lauper (True Colors), just off the top of my head

Great discussion. I really enjoyed this one because that transition from 70s sound to the 80s sound is interesting. Which way are these bands going to go with their sound? Some are actual 'artists' concerned about the material they release, that are successful and then can take a while to put out new material (and this is OK with them). While some others would have been best off just to crank out another one like that last one really quick and keep touring/selling/recording. We look back on it and can see how it went or how we would have taken it, but if you were in the midst of it at the time... would you really have that clarity to move ahead? Some can have that clarity... I think most cannot.

Boston (Don't Look Back to Third Stage to Walk On) KISS (Psycho Circus to Sonic Boom to Monster) Angel Witch (Angel Witch to Screamin' N Bleedin') Van Halen (Van Halen III to A Different Kind of Truth) Black Sabbath (Forbidden to The Devil You Know to 13) Grim Reaper (Rock You to Hell to Walking in the Shadows) Guns N' Roses (In general, they always took too long) Cinderella (Heartbreak Station to Still Climbing. Great album, but releasing the album in the mid nineties was a mistake.) Mötley Crüe (A couple points in their career killed their momentum pretty hard) Ted Nugent (If You Can't Lick 'Em to Spirit of the Wild. Talk about BAD timing... 1995!) Peter Gabriel (So to Us) Genesis (Invisible Touch to We Can't Dance to Calling All Stations...) Bands should never wait to long to release albums because can forget about you and by the time you release a new album, nobody cares and it sells nothing. It's sometimes agonizing waiting for new material by certain bands.

The Who might be an example. Granted they did their “Farewell Tour” in 1982 but they still left open the possibility of recording again after 1982’s “It’s Hard”. Instead of maybe releasing a great album in say 1984/85…they basically hung it up recording wise till “Endless Wire” almost 25 years after “It’s Hard”. I always wish The Who hung in there in the 80’s.

Hi Pete, I have a show idea: How about songs that forever changed the musical landscape after they were released? They could be obscure songs or popular ones, but we all know that there are some very influential songs (the most obvious being "Stairway to Heaven" - in which case every band had to record their own similar light to heavy masterpiece.)

As a big Floyd fan, I have to say that The Wall was originally only performed in 4 cities (New York, LA, London, Dortmund (Germany). I don’t think The Final Cut took too long to come out, I just think too many people saw it as leftovers from the wall, although I quite like it. Also, with BOC, it wasn’t the timing of those albums mentioned, it was the quality of why they didn’t sell. They weren’t as good as the previous ones.

Super vidéo.Merci les gars.😀👍🙏

I immediately thought of Boston when I saw your topic. The phrase "what could have been" applies. King Crimson did not have a studio release for about 7 years after Red, albeit they had a long string of fabulous albums to that point. Although Discipline was a great album with a few lineup changes, the band "missed out" on the back half of the 70s.

Cool show again! Ad. Cult - I prefer the early albums, where they had some unique dark sound and style, nevertheless "Sonic Temple" is TMO their peak they never reached again. A ranking of the Cult albums would be great! Def Leppard - Adrenalize could fit into this category, it's the follower of Hysteria but came out five years later, when grunge took over.

You really have to be in a great band to put out music every year. No egos. Just think of how hard that is. The older bands had a job they liked, and always went to work. New artists just want to be celebrities. That's why we don't have a lot of new bands that stay together very long.

An interesting follow-up would be bands where time off was a good thing. Maybe they came back refreshed and wither a better album, etc.

Topic Idea: Bands with the coolest Tour Theme. Consider the stage theatrics and advertising imagery.

The Rainmakers would make my list. They made three great albums in the late 80s then just as they had a chance of breaking really big they had a five year break. Between 1994 and 2014 they made four great albums which were all better than their earlier ones. By then a lot of people had forgotten them, and the albums just crept out quietly, so now they are relatively unknown.

Hello from Brittany (West of France); completing your interesting topic i'd like to mention The Stone Roses, english band from Manchester : 1989, first and amazing album , great success in their country and Europe, fantastic songs ("i wanna be adored", "made of stone", "i am the resurrection, "Waterfall"...)....and then drugs problems, tension in the band, juridic issues withe their record label (Silvertone) till 1994 with the release of "Second coming", five years (thank you Bowie) after the masterpiece : except "Love spreads" the single, this album is a perfect disaster. too bad. And thank you Pete and Martin for your epic battles.

Wow ANGEL WITCH? YOU are the man. ANGEL OF DEATH was the heaviest track I had heard in a long time. That's still on my playlist.

Supertramp did release a live album with Paris to keep fans tide over until the next album. Also Roger Hodgson and his wife at the time had their second child after Paris was released.

It's interesting because "Dead Ringer" LP was a massive hit in the UK, and I always presumed it had the same effect in the States. I think you're both right in the opinion that the general US public regarded it as belonging to a period of rock that had now definitely passed, but the UK saw it as another exciting release from America and responded accordingly. All these years later, listening to it just as an old rock record, it really stands up to the original - it's just as epic, far reaching and heroic. Quality album. It all went to shit after this, mind.

Idea for a show. Bands that should have been huge but weren't. Examples Balaam and The Angel, Budgie, Lonestar, Nutz etc.

I don't think Pink Floyd really fits this one. The concert was performed just 31 times in four cities: Los Angeles (7 shows), Uniondale (5), Dortmund (8) and London (11). The primary 'tour' consisted of 18 shows in L.A., Uniondale and London in 1980, but the band performed a further eight shows in Dortmund (13-20 February 1981) and five more shows at Earl's Court (13-17 June) for filming, with the intention of integrating the shows into the upcoming movie. David Gilmour and Nick Mason attempted to convince Waters to expand the show for a more lucrative, large-scale stadium tour, but because of the nature of the material (one of the primary themes is the distance between an artist and his audience) Waters refused and the band began to splinter. Roger went into production on the movie which was released less than a year after the tour ended. They began working on the follow up in 1982 and immediately arguments arose between Waters and Gilmour, who felt that the album should include all new material, rather than recycle songs passed over for The Wall. Waters felt that Gilmour had contributed little to the band's lyrical repertoire. (Maybe David should have pointed out Roger's lack of epic soaring guitar solos at that point). David asked Roger to wait a little to give him time to write some new songs for the album and Roger again remained stubborn about that refusing to delay the album for David. The Final Cut is more of a Waters solo album with studio musicians playing on a large bit of the album. Four of the songs don't even have Gilmour playing on them and five of them without Nick. Richard has been ousted from the band already and the keyboards are played by a combination of Michael Kaman and Andy Bown.

I think about Roxy Blue's "Want Some?" album that was released in 1992, and had it been released a few years earlier before the grunge explosion, it could've been huge.

The Wall shows were in LA, NY, London and Dortmund, West Germany. I lived in the Boston area in the 80s and that 3rd album was huge there and they sold out the Worcester Centrum for something like 9 dates in a row (the Boston Garden was not big for rock bands then due to no AC, sports getting in the way, high fees). Everyone was happy to have them back. Why is Extraterrestrial Live not liked? It was my first BOC purchase and one of my favorites. I prefer many of the live versions of their songs to the studio versions. I feel the albums after that lost what they had in the 70s.

Great discussion on Down. The 1st album is great. I still listen to it, but I almost forgot how much excitement there was around them back then. How big they could have been. The follow-up took so long and was such a disappointment. The 3rd album was a return to form and the EP's are really good (Although I agree with Martin that EP's are annoying), but the excitement was long gone by then.

Good show...surprised no-one mentioned Guns N Roses and the gap between the Illusions albums and Chinese Democracy. You could probably also make the same argument for Motley Crue with the gap between Dr. Feelgood and the '94 album.

I saw The Cult at the Skydome in Toronto, with opening act Bonham. Both bands were great, and The Cult kicked ass, but Astbury definitely had an attitude. At one point he yells out, "Who's here from Hamilton?" A bunch of people yell out in answer, to which he replies, "Hamilton effing sucks!" Wow, that's a really great way to win over an audience from a place where you used to live, who were there as fans for that very reason. That was the Sonic Temple tour, and their drummer for that tour was Matt Sorum. I saw Boston live twice, once at Maple Leaf Gardens on their very first tour, and then in 2015 at the casino here in the Falls, and they are a great live band, for sure. I'm glad I got to see them with Brad Delp. The new singer is "almost" as good, but he doesn't have Brad's power on the high notes. Tom is still Tom. An amazing musician, who is actually more dazzling on the organ than he is on the guitar, and he's in his 70's now. That show at the casino was truly epic.

One of my favorite songwriter/musicians is Thomas Dolby.But the gaps between albums is so damn long.I don't even know if we will ever get another album from him.It seems very unlikely since he is now a professor.I remember reading in Keyboard Magazine album,when Aliens Ate My Buick was released he was asked if we would have to wait another 4 years for the next album..Yes,we did have to wait another 4 years.We did get Gate to The Minds Eye two years later,though its really a soundtrack.Than finally in 2011,we got A Map of the Floating City,and nothing new since.

A band that came to my mind was Crimson Glory. In 2000, during the 'Astronomica' tour, they suddenly broke up. Then in 2005, Midnight reappeared from the ashes, and rejoined CG. They were actually planning to do another album and/or re-record the 'Astronomica' vocals, but everything fell apart when their label, Black Lotus, went bankrupt. So, I think it was a bad timing indeed. Source: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o6igdtmb3c6rmas.html

Pete, there is only a one-year gap between "Breakfast in America", and Supertramp's live album, "Paris".

Tom Scholtz made a ton of money off of the rockman effect and power soak. The biggest sin with Boston by not having more albums is we didn't hear Brad Delp's voice more than we did. Boston had the perfect voice, but Tom couldn't get out of his own head to just be a rock band, not a perfect symphony.

Sometimes it's the record label delaying releasing an album that's the issue. This happened to a U.K. band called The End who made a brilliant psychedelic album called "introspection, which was released 18 months after it should have been because psychedelia had been over by a year( November 1969) and wasn't a big seller. It was even produced by Bill Wyman of the Stones who even co-wrote one song "Shades Of Orange". it even had one of the best psychedelic tracks called "Cardboard Watch".

Immolation would easily have been as big as Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, Suffocation, Death, Obituary, and Morbid Angel if there weren't 5 years between Dawn of Possession and Here in After. 1992 was a huge year for Death Metal, by 1996 people were already starting to gravitate towards Black Metal and Nu Metal. Unfortunately Immolation missed the primary years of Death Metal popularity. I have no doubt Immolation - Here in After would have made them the most popular Death Metal band if it would have immediately followed up their debut album. They were as Heavy, complicated enough, intelligent lyrics, really memorable songs, and a Vocalist that was easy to understand, and even included Vocal hooks. I have always been amazed by the fact Here in After didn't become the biggest selling Death Metal album of all time, because it had everything a Death Metal fan could hope for in an album. I just think that the timing was bad. For album release that is, music wise the timing was impeccable

Tears for Fears The seeds of love. 4 years after Songs from the Big Chair, it basically had become the Orzabal thing.

Pink Floyd: I saw The Wall in Dortmund, Germany, 18 Feb. 1981...still got the ticket

Great topic, I can think of Peter Gabriel , Kate Bush , The Who, Emerson Lake & Palmer ,David Bowie the list is endless!

I think there were about 30 live shows for The Wall. Two cities in USA, London in the first year, Dortmund and London second year.

The excrutiatingly long wait between Yes albums that had both Steve Howe and Chris Squire and not Jon Anderson after the amazing Drama album The Peter Gabriel gap(although I had alot of nights tripping out to Last Temptation) and the post Test for echo hiatus(although the timing was just right) are a close tie for second

Fun topic Pete & Martin Marillion has that loyalty where the fans keep coming back, almost 6 years between "An Hour Before It's Dark" and "FEAR".

Angel Witch was the first band that I thought of also . Cirith Ungol released their debut in 1981 , then didn't release a follow up album until 1984. Witchfynde really could have been bigger, if 1980 sophomore release Stagefright didn't have so many pop type songs, and released an album in 1981 instead of waiting until 1983

22:09 Three years seemed like a lot back then. 3 years between albums became the norm a bit later on. Supertramp had internal issues and were probably blown away by the unprecedented success of "Breakfast". It sold about 3 million copies in a small country like France ALONE (which is probably why they recorded their live album in Paris). It's like 3 million copies sold in a single US state. it was massive huge. 41:29 I don't agree. From "Final Eyes" to the end of the album, "Big Generator" sounds proggish to me, which is a good idea (to end the album like that). And I like this album a lot (more than the previous one).

1. Guns 'n' Roses 2. Boston

I hope to get one more Peter Gabriel album someday. Also, I could see those early grunge bands being into the Cult! Now I'm curious.

I hate EPs too.I buy em,cause ya gotta,but yeah,just finish the album.Great vid,as usual.🤘👍Obscure albums,next week Hellyeah🙂

Oh...Guns N Roses with Chinese Democracy or sure. "The most anticipated album ever" became "The biggest dud of an album" real fast.

The Cult is one of my favorite bands of all time. Every album of theirs is so amazing and so underrated (outside of Electric and Love to a certain extent). Most people think they fell off the face of the earth after 1991 (with Ceremony), but that is far from the truth.

Def Leppard (Hysteria - Adrenalize)

Great topic. Eric Johnson had a window of opportunity to build on the success of "Ah Via Musicom," but waited way too long to put out "Venus Isle" and killed his momentum.

I would go with Dire Straits, Brothers In Arms was a massive commercial album, with a massive sellout tour, riding on the back of the new media that was CD. Then waited six years for On Every Street. Yes it was a success and the tour was big but lost a lot of following, probably due to the length of time between albums and Mark getting jazzy and rootsy, so was as commercial to the casual fan. I mean, we still hear Walk of Life on the radio but when was the last time you heard Calling Elvis?

I am with you on Yes Pete, I remember waiting for the next record and it took forever and finally Big Generator came out which was good but felt like a drop off from 90125. I had heard Trevor Rabin and Jon Anderson were not seeing eye to eye during that recording.

I was in college at the time that the new Cult album came out. I was extremely familiar with the catalogue at the time. I was really surprised that that 1994 did not do better than it did. The production and quality of songs were and still are some of their best works. I am talking about 25:00 minutes into this show and video here.

I think what Pete said about brand loyalty is definitely true; it's what kept a lot of bands that were in my opinion well past their sell by date going for years (The Rolling Stones, Ozzy, Rush, Paul McCartney, U2, and on and on). Of course there are genuine fans of the latter day albums of the artists I've mentioned but I think for most, they originally fell in love with the band because they loved their music, and later they 'like' their music (or more accurately, _try_ to like their music) because they love the band. Of course it's a bit more complicated than this inasmuch as all of those groups have or had a large back catalog to please fans in concert.

Regarding Peter Gabriel... Martin I think forgets the Soundtrack work Peter did between SO and US with the Passion album, which to me is one of his greatest accomplishments he's ever had creatively and it was a huge influence on soundtracks that came after. He also released his pioneering interactive releases with his "Explora1" and "Eve" CD-ROMs. So given that... there wasn't that much of a gap between albums... after US is a whole other story. Decades later still waiting on a proper follow up to UP.

Angel Witch's track Baphomet and Flight Nineteen were my favourites. Saw the band a few times before they released their debut and was disappointed with the thin sound compared to the band's live performances. Great memories however.

Pink Floyd played 18 dates for the Wall in 1980. They played 7 dates in Los Angeles in Feb. 1980, 5 dates in New York in Feb. 1980, and then the final 6 half a year later in London, England in Aug. 1980.

This was interesting....there are also cases where the reverse is true when bands wait a long time to come out with new stuff and anticipation drives the popularity of band even higher...

The first thing I thought of when I saw the title of the episode was Yes….I was waiting for that follow up from 90125 for what seemed like forever. Then FINALLY Big Generator comes out IN 87 and it was a bit disappointing. But I saw the tour and the concert was great

How about "Widowmaker" ? Dee Snider & company missed the boat by about three years. The two Widowmaker albums are really really good but, unfortunately, the timing was off and by the time they released those albums in the early - mid 90's, that type of Heavy Metal was being surpassed by the Grunge movement and the band was kaput before they even had a chance to become the household name that they could have been. In my opinion, Widowmaker was just as good, if not better than Twisted Sister.

Great vid. I would add Cinderella to the list from Heartbreak Station to Still Climbing. Grunge probably hurt it but also the 4 year delay didn’t help. SC is a better album but got totally ignored.