Bandsaw Tune Up, Setup and Maintenance

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5 жыл бұрын

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In this woodworking tool video we tune up our Bandsaw and go over basic maintenance to get your Bandsaw resawing, cutting curves and working smoothly. Whether you bought it new or used these basic techniques work great for getting your tool in top working order. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

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@niallchurch2679 3 жыл бұрын

Actually,snodgrass said in one of his videos,not to worry about the bottom bearings,once the blade stays on you're good to go! My problem is the blade at one point will move back onto the thrust bearing,so,blade doesn't run consistently without touching the thrust bearing!

@BlisterBang Жыл бұрын

5:40 and 6:50 It's neither the tip of the tooth, nor the center of the gullet. Alex Snodgrass, at 7:25 of his video that you reference, says the BOTTOM of the gullet should be in the center of the tire.

@ksross08 5 жыл бұрын

Can't agree more. I found the Snodgrass method video a few months ago and used it to tune up my Rikon recently. Totally transformed it!!! As always, thanks for the content.

@woogaloo 5 жыл бұрын

It's great to see a setup video with the bandsaw I have. I had never tried setting it up without the table, but that will make it so much easier - and give me a bit of room to clean. Great video - thanks for taking the time to make it!

@Woodworking-Pastor 2 жыл бұрын

I just saw this video for the first time. Great video and teaching preventative maintenance. I have the same bandsaw bolted to the floor and also use the Snodgrass method of setup. It's incredible how accurate the cuts are. I have resawed 11 1/2 wide boards along the width and have the same accuracy as you do with the narrow board. Thanks for the reminder to clean my bandsaw it's definitely due.

@russellmckay8896 5 жыл бұрын

I don't even have a band saw , but still learned from this video. I followed your video on table saw set up and can't believe the difference it made in the performance. Keep up the great videos.

@TMCmakes 5 жыл бұрын

loving the Tune Up Thursday series, this was excellent. keep em coming!

@boydblack9087 7 ай бұрын

Tremendous video. I purchased a band saw about six months ago, set it up per the owner's manual and have struggled to use it effectively. I followed your recommendations and wow, my cuts are so much easier and so much more accurate. Thanks.

@rjtumble 5 жыл бұрын

I saw Alex at the Atlanta Woodworking show this year, great presentation. When testing the rear bearing, he uses the back of his fingers. They're sensitive enough that you just barely push on the blade vs using your finger tip.

@john20pb 5 жыл бұрын

There's no such thing as scrap walnut. Only walnut that you haven't used yet.

@JordanWoodwerx 5 жыл бұрын

Great tune up video, I found Alex Snodgrass a couple of years ago, been listening ever since, thanks JKM.

@walterrider9600 5 жыл бұрын

thank you Katz . i have a band saw like yours i put bearings on it and cut logs pear, oak and birch to boards last summer . i also resharpened the blades on the saw with a disk grinder. it did okay took about 20 mins .i have had problems with the blades from grizzly not being true or out of round , bent sigh but most have been okay.

@jonnutting2292 3 жыл бұрын

Dude! I did this and holy smokes what a difference!!!

@BrianThorstad 3 жыл бұрын

Filing in woodworking technique...thank you. I continue to wear my K-M apron with pride.

@MadNerdWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын

Now I will be working on my bandsaw this weekend. Thanks for the info Jonathan.

@Gilsao_1964 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks a million man. It was the simplest and most instructive tuneup I have ever seen. It helped me a lot with my bandsaw (a Makita LB1200F). It is a small but very good machine. Problema was I had some difficulty for It to work properly and the customer service dos not help much. Thanks again and best wishes.

@chriscalon8913 5 жыл бұрын

I bought a bandsaw used, and it shakes like hell. So hopefully your tips will help me. Loved the video and learned a lot. I like this series!

@charlesriddle2794 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and very helpful. Setting the gullet to the middle of the wheel helped tremendously.

@glencompton1798 3 жыл бұрын

I always appreciate the quicker videos over the blah, blah ones that take foreeeevvvvvver to get to the point. Oscar Zerk gave us that cool grease fitting design - way back when. Who has construction 2x4s laying around near a nice bandsaw?

@drewachong 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Jonathan! I just bought my first bandsaw, an old Grizzly 14" model from the early 90's. I have new tires and a couple of other parts coming in. Can't wait to use some of these tips on getting mine set up!

@TempleThomas 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. I've watched Snodgrass video as well and it really looks like a great method. I just got a little 12 inch Craftsman and I intend to take it apart and go through it and do this very process to make sure everything's set up right

@larryweesejr1441 3 жыл бұрын

Also I want to thank you I have turned my Thursdays into tune-up Thursdays. It's much easier if you just plan it out that way thank you have enjoyed your videos

@SSBailey77845 5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan, your content has been super helpful. After buying a Jet 18" bandsaw at an online auction (buyer beware!) I called Jet to obtain an Owners Manual that just could not be found online. I soon discovered why I couldn't find it. When the super helpful Jet tech heard the actual serial number for my JWBS18 he replied "Wow! That one is the old of the old!" Uh oh. So, like I said I watched this video and bounced over to Alex Snodgrass and then to Carter. I quickly realized that a) my bandsaw could be awesome with a few upgrades, b) with your advice combined with his techniques I could start using m new tool safely and reliably, and c) my bandsaw had been modified in a few expedient ways that I needed to address. Keep up the great tune up series and joinery videos! Great stuff!

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks bud. Try vintagemachinery.org they have lots of good references

@markwagstaff947 5 жыл бұрын

I love your content your Chanel just gets better and better

@Jason-vn5xj 5 жыл бұрын

MAH DUDE! Seriously. I just found your channel over the weekend and you’re already improving my life. How did you know I’m getting my bandsaw out of storage this weekend?!?! I was going to look for a good tune up vid for Sunday funday. Now I don’t have to. I have a new favorite woodworking channel. ❤️👍

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Welcome my friend

@DsHardWoodCreations 5 жыл бұрын

Appreciate this. Ive got some issues going on with the blade not tracking and drifting. I think taking off the table will definitely make it easier to get to the problem. Thanks

@Itsnotmethistime 2 жыл бұрын

Interested to see you adopting the Snodgrass method. I saw him do this at a woodshed on SW Ontario a few years ago. Worked well for my 12" bandsaw but not at all for the benchtop model I had at the time. Always entertaining to hear people complain that it won't work. It certainly can in my experience.

@imortaldeadead 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you for sharing I do the same set up as well, it really is night and day As maintenance is always cheaper then repair, as well it give you a chance to see if there is anything that will need to be replaced too 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@marinusbeimers7293 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonathan for another great video

@zavoina 5 жыл бұрын

I watched with interest and I don't even have a band saw.

@JasonOSmith-vb4iu Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the tutorial!

@embfixer 5 жыл бұрын

There are so many rabbit holes you can go down with band saw tune ups, but the Snodgrass method really eliminates it all. I used to have all kinds of issues with blade drift until I realized that having the blade centered on the wheel that has a ridge in the center causes the leading edge (the teeth) of the blade to be unsupported and the blade would cut at a slight angle or worse, move side to side. Sounds like a commercial, but the Snodgrass method eliminated all that. Thanks for another great video.

@larryweesejr1441 3 жыл бұрын

Oh my God thank you so much for this video. Me and you have the exact same band saw, I always thought it didn't cut very well because of the cheap grizzly. After watching your video and going to Alex Snograss video. I cannot believe the band Saw Now

@sar4x474 5 жыл бұрын

Zerk fittings for the grease question. :) Nice video Jonathan. Very helpful!

@daveweber1331 5 жыл бұрын

or, just plain ole grease nipples. :-)

@Skimdude6r8 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Thank you for sharing

@tekviper9 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jon !

@kailetaylor021 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I have an old 13" delta and this helped immensely. :-) Got a new subscriber

@wb_finewoodworking 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve been using the Snodgrass method as well and am getting great results. It will be interesting to see if Will takes up your challenge.

@JohnMcGrathManInShed 5 жыл бұрын

Now I need to go sort my band saw!

@manyfeather2knives423 Жыл бұрын

Had to watch 30 vids before someone told me not to worry about the back and forth movement of the top wheel….thanks!

@45mattress 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you.

@jimfromri 4 жыл бұрын

Vibration? Replace the stock belt with a link belt. Makes a huge difference. Instead of bolting the saw down, put hockey pucks under the base. They act like expensive anti vibration feet but are cheap. -Jim

@johndoe920 5 жыл бұрын

You can actually regrease sealed bearings by peeling off the seal, pushing grease in and putting the seals back. And a lot of the manufacturers use cheap grease or not enough so it doesn't actually hurt and extends the life of your bearings considerably.

@harrydavis6903 4 жыл бұрын

Johnathan, the scrap piece to check your blade square is recommended by Alex Snodgrass to be approximately the width of your band saw table, your scrap piece was a bit shorter than that. A piece that covers the whole width of your table would give a more accurate result.

@JasonOSmith-vb4iu Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@stevefromlondon9175 4 жыл бұрын

Great info thank you for sharing Regards Steve UK London

@ramongibbs8692 3 жыл бұрын

I've owned an older cast iron 14 inch Jet with riser block for nearly 20 years that run perfectly. That tune up is an excellent method. However I've found it the main four mount bolts that attach to the cabinet, the large neck bolt that passes through the riser block aren't re-tightened along with checking/readjusting the drive belt and motor is essential. Theses are by far the very foundation of the bandsaw. And if those are right there will be vibration.

@louisforgione3282 5 жыл бұрын

Really loved your video and will help me vastly improve my bandsaw A joint for your list could be a secret/ hidden mitred dovetail with an ebony or Purple Heart spline

@christofix 5 жыл бұрын

Great video man, also love the B roll in it! i'm a fan of that and try it in my own videos ( but i'm not as good as you)

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

*not as good as Marc hahaha. Little tip. Always shoot b-roll in 60p and slow it down by 60% to bring it to 24p

@PetesShopMakes 5 жыл бұрын

Can you demonstrate tuning and setting the blades on a 2 or 3 blade jointer so that they are aligned with the infeed table? That would be greatly appreciated. Really enjoy your videos so keep em coming John!

@PetesShopMakes 5 жыл бұрын

I meant outfeed table sorry. Thanks

@wmwalkerco 5 жыл бұрын

Nice ZING! It's on!

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha got'em

@kensmith2822 5 жыл бұрын

Great video and thank for reminding me to tune up mine. Video suggestion if you haven't already done so I would love a video on fixing blade wobble on a tablesaw.

@niallchurch2679 3 жыл бұрын

Blade wobble from side to side or back ward motion onto thrust bearing?

@kensmith2822 3 жыл бұрын

@@niallchurch2679 side to side

@JkCanvas 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. Just need to get rid of my crappy bandsaw and get a better quality one.

@mdowden1722 4 жыл бұрын

I used this method to turn a cheap bandsaw into an ok one. But I think you should turn your test piece around not over so your using the same reference face as you would when testing a square. Great video nice and clear and detailed good camera work. Not sure about the on talent though getting his words mixed up a bit.

@richardspencer742 5 жыл бұрын

I'm already a subscriber so I'll comment to help out ;-) Must admit it's been awesome to have the same miter saw, planer and bandsaw so all the tune ups are the EXACT same hahahaha

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Lucky dog hahaha

@richardspencer742 5 жыл бұрын

6" Grizzly Jointer with helical head next please lol

@SeanFoushee 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, but regarding that one thing you said about not worrying about the wheels being coplanar, if your wheels aren't close to coplanar it can absolutely cause problems with this method. When I received my Grizzly 14" its wheels were over 1/8" out of plane with each other which caused any blade smaller than 1/2" to slip off the wheels no matter the amount of adjustment made to the upper wheel. The wheels don't have to be perfectly coplanar, but if they're not close you'll have problems keeping the gullet aligned to the crown of the wheel or even encounter the blade slipping during a cut.

@jsand6 2 жыл бұрын

Man these are my definitive intros to new tools, the stuff the actual manufacturers should be telling you!

@Ace-ig6vs 2 жыл бұрын

They don't tell you anything, even with good quality tools. They come with half assed manuals.

@bobt2522 5 жыл бұрын

Great tips! I saw Alex at The Woodworking Show last year; his skill and knowledge are amazing. You seemed to have trouble getting the words out. Are you sleep deprived? Babies will do that.

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Bahahaha sometimes my brain goes faster than my tongue

@billgarbus4027 2 жыл бұрын

Jonathan thanks for sharing a suggestion for improvement would be to show how to set the table parallel to the fence, or at least reference Michael Fortune’s FWW article and/or KZfaq on this important topic. Bill Garbus, Arcisan Studio

@danpowell2018 5 жыл бұрын

My friend and I were literally just talking about you needing to do a bandsaw video on Wednesday... How did you know!?

@xylology_est2018 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have this tensioned at an 8? Now I’m thinking my little blade vibration is being I’m under tensioned (4-5).

@sethpeacock8437 3 жыл бұрын

What was the baking soda and acetone for after you sanded with vinegar/water?

@albanleroux 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jonnathan, I have almost the same bandsaw, an european brand holzprofi hbs480. I have the same process to setup the saw as you, so that’s confort me I do the setup right! After few year of use I found the this bandsaw does not really allow large saw blade as they pretend (1.25" max). With a blade like that 1.25" it’s impossible to center the gullet on the wheel. It also lack of tensionning power with this kind of blade. My thinking is a 3/4" blade is a max for a good tension. What is your thinking about that? Something is very anoying on my saw is that the moving arm with the blade guide as it go up or down does not track strait with the blade. So if I have a good guide spacing at 2 inch over the table, it totally wrong at 10 inch over the table. Any advice about that ? I never be able to do a so beautiful cut as you show in this video. It will be a dream. We don’t have blade with skip tooth here, the blade almost all the time some waves in the cut. I can not tell if I can improve something or not.

@Bob-More-Than-Enough-WC 5 жыл бұрын

2x4?? Silly Rabbit!! My Scrap IS walnut!!! ;-p Great video as always and GREAT saw!! Same one in my shop!!

@killemall1983 8 ай бұрын

any tips for correcting a blade that deflects far to the right while using the fence? As soon as the cut reaches the back of the blade, it deflects the cut far to the right.

@smithpianoservicing3421 2 жыл бұрын

I have gone through the Snodgras method probably 400 times (not kidding) and I still cannot get an evenly thin cut on a wide resaw. I even bought the $200 Resaw King blade and the Carter magfence. All the tools, the best method and still no luck

@katzmosestools 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you have a bent wheel or drive shaft

@hurcorh 4 жыл бұрын

Should get fence is square to the blade, too. both up and down and front to back.

@archers101pd7 7 ай бұрын

I see people adjust square on back and front too. I do not see a need as long side to side and the blade in tracking well Side to side gives you a straight cut. Front / back determines which end finishes its cut first. Any other reason to adjust front/ back?

@kp-mk8nd 5 жыл бұрын

For joint of the week do a nejire kumi tsugi (twisted splice)

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

I'll put it on the list! Actually I already did them. Also known as sunrise dovetails

@kratt309 5 жыл бұрын

I think it’s harder in my case because I have a Laguna with ceramic guides and you can’t see the slight movement of the bearing as easily

@mattmorrisson9607 5 жыл бұрын

How do I tune up my screwdrivers?

@mountainsidetableco.8875 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same bandsaw. What are the specs on your blade...name brand, width etc. mine has factory blade still and thinking about upgrading.

@Migman2020 8 ай бұрын

a well tuned bandsaw can cut a 0.5mm veneer 200x400.. its how i tune my bandsaw so i know it cuts straight and square everytime.. put a 123 block and its all dead square. takes time but easily doable

@jeffreyrood8755 5 жыл бұрын

Another great video! You're a great illustrator. My drill press might need a tune up... What about that?

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

I did a whole series on Tune ups including drill press. There's a playlist

@jeffreyrood8755 5 жыл бұрын

@@katzmosestools I really like your videos. Not everyone on KZfaq produces a good video. Not so here. I learn a lot and since I'm pretty new at this it's helping me. Thank you.

@greatgrandpaswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын

What is your opinion on the Band Saw Stabilizer offered by Alex Snodgrass?

@jorgeherrera3554 8 ай бұрын

What about the lower wheel. The blade has to be in the same position than the top one. Teeth in the middle?

@johnshanahan6550 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. What's your opinion on loosening the tension on the blade when you're not going to be using the bandsaw? Does it matter if you leave the blade under tension for long periods? The only reason that I ask is that I remember every now and then to loosen it but always forget to tighten it again before I use the bandsaw the next time. If it doesn't make a difference I'd rather tension it once and then leave it. Thanks.

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

I never leave it under tension. Well occasionally I forget but it's a good way to ruin a perfectly good blade. All that expansion and contraction is just hell on a blade

@WindRidgeWoodCrafts 5 жыл бұрын

I share my shop/garage with my wife's car, so everything is mobile. I've gotten into the habit of looping the power cord around the tension handle when I put it away. It reminds me to (un)tension it every time I [un]plug it.

@rodchristian1363 5 жыл бұрын

@@katzmosestools I think the problem is that it puts a flat spot in the tyre ? Cheers

@Farukon666 4 жыл бұрын

Yesterday i got myself a new bandsaw and sadly it was already put together wrong way, probably going to spend next week adjusting and replacing cheap and crappy parts, nowadays most of them are really cheaply made

@stevebrost6483 4 жыл бұрын

I know this video is 8 months old so I’m doubting if I will get a response If you put the gullet in the centre of the tire does the size of blade make a difference Looks like you are using a 1/2” blade...what about a larger one ? I have an 18” bandsaw and I have some 1 1/2” blades I was going to use for resaw Do I still put the gullet of such a big blade on centre of the tire?

@paulruud5804 5 жыл бұрын

Isn't the bottom of the gullet where the blade is supposed to be centered? Oh, you corrected that around 5:40. And at 6:50. :-)

@fredrik.larsen 5 жыл бұрын

On my bandsaw if I center the gullets on the belt then the blade goes outside the belt. Too wide blade for the machine you might think, but it's the factory Makita blade.

@williamsimpson2083 5 жыл бұрын

Do you see the point in having small table top bandsaws with only about 80mm (3 and a quarter inches) of resaw capacity?

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

No I don't

@gregritchie1758 5 жыл бұрын

I note you use thin wall PVC for your vac system. Many people say "static issues". Do you like PVC for a vac as it is cost effective.

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Check out my dust collection videos cheers

@mescamade 5 жыл бұрын

Will this work for a cheaper table top band saw as in the Wen table top saw?

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Yep

@tomm8188 4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering what do you use in the spray bottle to clean the table tops when doing the tuneups.

@katzmosestools 4 жыл бұрын

Vinegar and water

@niallchurch2679 3 жыл бұрын

@@katzmosestools Ratio?

@dusbus2384 3 жыл бұрын

snodgrass was on the wood whisperer's channel so if you want to hear it from the horses mouth check out his channel.

@robertmcevoy24 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Jonathan I’m curious what model Grizzly bandsaw are you using? I’m going with a Grizzly this summer . Thank you for the informative video.Just subscribed .

@WindRidgeWoodCrafts 5 жыл бұрын

I paused it at 0:09 when I saw the model flash by. It's a Grizzly G0513ANV. I have a different model Grizzly I just picked up a couple months ago that I'm very happy with, as well.

@robertmcevoy24 5 жыл бұрын

Mike Schienle Thanks Mike do you recommend the cast iron trunnions over the steel ?

@WindRidgeWoodCrafts 5 жыл бұрын

@@robertmcevoy24 For the trunnion, I don't think that's a major consideration. They don't have a lot of stress on them like the column does. That said, I think you can match the rigidity of steel with cast iron up to a point. I suspect Jonathan's G0513ANV (17" steel) and my G0555XH (14" cast iron) have equally rigid columns for the capacities they offer. At some point, you're just creating excessive weight with cast iron, but I don't think we're running into that at 14" or 17", it's more likely just an engineering tradeoff vs. an obstacle.

@robertmcevoy24 5 жыл бұрын

Mike Schienle Thank you

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Yes

@jessiesurbuddie 5 жыл бұрын

Hey, what kind of rip fence is that? :)

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

It's a really cool one that grizzly sells. It has two positions and works really well

@rjsenn4142 5 жыл бұрын

Will this method work with a Laguna / ceramic guide system?

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Yep

@rjsenn4142 5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Katz-Moses 👍

@stormbytes 3 жыл бұрын

Actually if you follow Alex's method the deepest part (inside edge) of the gullet should be dead center of the wheel, not the edge of the blade as you said.

@mauriceryton 5 жыл бұрын

Must be all the poms and wallabies hearing blandsaw. Lol

@ArvidDoerwald 5 жыл бұрын

Please could someone explain me what the hole in the front of the table is for? Many thanks.

@ArvidDoerwald 5 жыл бұрын

I mean the hole which is on the right side at the end, with a pin in it.

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Keeps the table solid but also allows you to remove blade

@ArvidDoerwald 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@benjaminfarthing3849 5 жыл бұрын

Do you recommend that Grizzly?

@richardspencer742 5 жыл бұрын

I have it and I love it!

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Love it

@faisalesmail2051 5 жыл бұрын

Can you do a drill press next time?

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly probably. I'm running out of tools hahaha

@meleader 3 жыл бұрын

Great video but 1/4" deflection is WAY too much when setting tension. Probably 1/16 is closer.

@Myrkskog 5 жыл бұрын

I've given up hope with my bandsaw. I've spent hours watching tune up/set up videos and I've never been able to have it consistently cut straight, with no drift. Just dirty cutting which I clean up with more reliable tools.

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Try a timber wolf blade. They're awesome

@Myrkskog 5 жыл бұрын

@@katzmosestools I watched that Snodgrass video after yours and I'm excited to see if this method is the key. I'd guess TImber Wolf blades aren't available in the UK, so I'll have to make do with Tuff Saws. Cheers, Jonathan.

@treymoore6901 5 жыл бұрын

Gotta add some salt to that blandsaw

@katzmosestools 5 жыл бұрын

Bahahahaha Marc roasting me

@jasondoust4935 4 жыл бұрын

Surely a blandsaw would be beige. I mean, that Grizzly, it's so black..! (Robin Williams voice) "You can wear it casual by day, dress it up at night..."