Prince George's Plane Crash - Royal Murder Mysteries - S01 EP06 - History Documentary

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4 ай бұрын

Explore the enigmatic life of Prince George, Duke of Kent, in this intriguing episode. From his scandalous affairs and bisexuality to his involvement in a possible coup against Churchill, delve into the mysteries surrounding Prince George's untimely death during a plane crash in 1942. Uncover the theories of espionage, peace negotiations with Nazi Germany, and the connection to Rudolf Hess's mysterious flight to Britain. Join us as we unravel the hidden facets of Prince George's life and the unanswered questions surrounding his tragic end.
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@jeffreygoyen1309
@jeffreygoyen1309 3 ай бұрын
My late uncle ( Frank ) was the pilot of this flight. Boards of inquiry concluded that due to heavy fog and winds the flight veered inland ( instead of the usual coastal route ) and crashed into the side of the mountain ie it was an accident. The throttles were fully open according to post crash investigation which suggests the flight crew tried to apply full power to climb out of the impending crash but Sunderland flying boats, though reliable, were noted to be underpowered. The tail gunner, Andy Jack, survived as his entire turret was ripped off at impact. My Late father, who was in the AIF, visited Andy Jack post WW2 but noted Jack was sworn to secrecy by the official secrets act so could tell little or nothing. In any event he was at the tail of the plane and probably saw or heard little or nothing of what was occurring in the cockpit until the very last moment.
@cmclean6475
@cmclean6475 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't Frank Australian, so are you too? I was very interested in this story and did a LOT of PG research but couldn't trace your family links downunder, where I am too. I have much I cld share privately with you... if....
@johnholmes6897
@johnholmes6897 3 ай бұрын
He was attached to the cockpit with a radio. He heard everything
@jeffreygoyen1309
@jeffreygoyen1309 3 ай бұрын
My family ( a few generations before me ) had roots in Shepparton ( there is even a Goyen Reserve in Shepp, near municipal offices ), Victoria ( though i grew up in Melb ), Frank was actually Frank Mckenzie Goyen and my other uncle ( Norman Joseph ( Joe ) ) flew as a tail gunner/ radio operator in B25's and did 35 missions i believe including 2 on D-Day over Normandy supporting the landings. My dad was infantry in Mid East and Crete spent 3 or so yrs as a POW in Austria ( Captured in Crete )
@arturs2436
@arturs2436 3 ай бұрын
I have seen a BBC News interview from 2003, in which the Flight Sergeant Jack's niece(Margaret Harris) declared that he told his brother that the Duke had been at the controls of the plane; that Jack had dragged him from the pilot's seat after the crash; and that there was an additional person on board the plane whose identity has never been revealed.
@cmclean6475
@cmclean6475 3 ай бұрын
@@jeffreygoyen1309 I worked in Shepparton, saw the Goyen Reserve and started hunting for rellies, that was back in c 2009
@user-kv1lp8ih8g
@user-kv1lp8ih8g Ай бұрын
Wrote him out of history? Talk about being successful!! I had never even heard of this guy till I saw this, and Ive been an avid reader of history since the 1970's. Frankly Im stunned that I had never known about him.
@thesmallerhalf1968
@thesmallerhalf1968 Ай бұрын
I am not convinced he was written out of history. I have known of his existence and fate for about 4 decades.
@julierobertson148
@julierobertson148 2 ай бұрын
This was the most interesting "War story" I have heard in many years. It is also the first time I had heard of most of the issues and questions raised. The actual history of WWII seems to be much curious-er than any of the accounts that made it into the record books. Thank you for this intriguing perspective.
@murtlandjardine8716
@murtlandjardine8716 4 ай бұрын
THANKS FOR SHARING!! MY FIRST TIME KNOWLEDGE OF THIS STORY
@SecretSquirrelFun
@SecretSquirrelFun 4 ай бұрын
I’m not a pilot, but the engines being discovered at full throttle makes sense to me. If the plane was losing altitude and/or power, the pilot would have been trying to get as much power as he could, trying to prevent them from crashing. Trying desperately to lift he plane and find a better place to land.
@wondergirl367
@wondergirl367 3 ай бұрын
Intriguing! I didn't realize that David and Bertie had a younger brother.
@carlywright5127
@carlywright5127 2 ай бұрын
Duke Of Kent and Duke of Gloucester father. Alexandra the sister. All elderly now was Married to princess of Greece Marina.
@cynthiastrawson3316
@cynthiastrawson3316 2 ай бұрын
They had three.
@kathleenpalmer5274
@kathleenpalmer5274 2 ай бұрын
Google the youngest Prince John
@BonnieBlair-zm4uu
@BonnieBlair-zm4uu Ай бұрын
Prince Michael of Kent was the youngest of Prince Georgie's sons and was just an infant when his father, the Duke of Kent, died. Prince Michael of Kent appears to have inherited his father's intelligence and is multi lingual and articulate. I enjoyed watching him in a video 📼 discussing his assassinated8 Romanov8 relatives.✝️☦️🛐
@janetaldrich7747
@janetaldrich7747 Ай бұрын
They had 3. Prince Henry, Prince George and Prince John
@janseary
@janseary 3 ай бұрын
No wonder Queen Elizabeth had concerns about Prince William continuing to fly helicopters. She lost her uncle, Prince George, Duke of Kent, in a plane crash in 1942 and a cousin, Prince William of Gloucester, in 1972.
@lorifintel9784
@lorifintel9784 Ай бұрын
And prince Philip lost his sister and her family in a plane accident as well.
@cambelloroxy9420
@cambelloroxy9420 Ай бұрын
@@lorifintel9784I completely forgot 😅 But your right ( it really is no wonder that the Queen was concerned)
@jacksimpson-rogers1069
@jacksimpson-rogers1069 Ай бұрын
Let us not forget that Churchill was the _only_ Tory Party "candidate" that the Labour Party was willing to tolerate as Prime Minister of a united parliament. But my other thought was the unfairness of the deaths of the others, if Prince George was the target.
@shadowshow701
@shadowshow701 Ай бұрын
Churchill was not hated by the Royal Family at all. He had a very warm and close friendship with Edward the 8th in particular, even though they differed in opinion on many things
@KathleenP-me8qz
@KathleenP-me8qz Ай бұрын
Does anyone think, as I do, that the present Prince William looks a lot like Prince George, the youngest brother of King Edward VIII.
@shelleybelcher6565
@shelleybelcher6565 26 күн бұрын
Looks like William, seems to act like Andrew
@cassandratq9301
@cassandratq9301 17 күн бұрын
Yes.
@cassandratq9301
@cassandratq9301 17 күн бұрын
Wonder if that has anything to do with why William's eldest son is named George?
@user-ds2cg1cg1m
@user-ds2cg1cg1m 7 күн бұрын
@Kathleen: I don't. Fortunately, William, and to a lesser extent, Harry, look much more Spencer than Windsor. (Not that Windsor is their real name) And lucky for them, too.
@456inthemix
@456inthemix 4 күн бұрын
@@shelleybelcher6565 No, Prince William looks and acts just like his great-granduncle George, he has a drinking problem, does what he wants and is known to be bisexual, Andrew is not bisexual, he likes Lolitas ;-) Most probably William could be his Granduncle's incarnation. By the way, the late Princess Diana is a descendant of Churchil, what a coincidence?
@inominate2024
@inominate2024 2 ай бұрын
Hess was a pilot, Hess received basic flight training at Oberschleissheim and Lechfeld Air Base from March to June 1918, and advanced training at Valenciennes in France in October. On 14 October, he was assigned to Jagdstaffel 35b, a Bavarian fighter squadron equipped with Fokker D.VII biplanes. He saw no action with Jagdstaffel 35b, as the war ended on 11 November 1918. Hess did not fly to Scotland in a jet Me262, which did not enter service until 1942. He flew Me110 twin engine fighter bomber, specially modified with extra fuel tanks and a better compass and radio. He wanted to meet the Duke of Hamilton to discuss a coup d’etat because the duke was also a pilot and was a wing commander at RAF Turnhouse near Edinburg at the time.
@paulspice4717
@paulspice4717 Ай бұрын
Hess flew in a jet, haha, this is the stuff that makes myths and conspiracy theories
@examplelife1567
@examplelife1567 4 ай бұрын
I love how the guy who survived and made the decision to leave the crash site is made to look highly suspicious. What exactly was he supposed to do? It speaks very highly of him that he was able to get himself to a place of safety. Obviously I don't know what his training was, possibly he had been trained for such incidents. Nevertheless, it would have been apparent to him that he was the only server and he took it from there. Many people would have stayed with the plane due to a state of shock and possibly died as a result.
@lynnwalton814
@lynnwalton814 4 ай бұрын
So true
@skippmclovan1135
@skippmclovan1135 4 ай бұрын
To survive and walk away from such a 'High-G' impact force at cruising speed directly into terrain is just quite extraordinary. A very tough man..!
@amyexner
@amyexner 4 ай бұрын
You don’t walk away from an accident site.
@hull294
@hull294 4 ай бұрын
Yes you do if your on a freezing cold hillside in the middle of Scotland & have injuries. He may have seen the lights of the small village or crofts & thought his chances were better if he headed for them. He had no way of knowing if help would turn up or if it did how long it would take.@@amyexner
@jfryer485
@jfryer485 4 ай бұрын
@@skippmclovan1135What normally happens is the tail flips over so his stop is over a huge distance. For the same reason the pilot is in the worst place. Some people I know crashed into a Swiss mountain circa 1973 or so and those in the tail survived but most died. It was a mothers union trip to Switzerland from Wells in Somerset. Normally a person dies with a sudden stop at 18 miles per hour ie hitting a tree or brick wall.
@eleanorfowser4705
@eleanorfowser4705 4 ай бұрын
It was years before I learned that he was a real person, and did die in a plane crash in Scotland.
@johnstirling6597
@johnstirling6597 Ай бұрын
I recall reading an post war investigation into this by a senior RAF pilot and his conclusion was that the main compass was incorrectly aligned , (IE, off by a few degrees) thus causing the crash.
@cassandratq9301
@cassandratq9301 17 күн бұрын
Which supports sabotage.
@katehennessy4814
@katehennessy4814 2 ай бұрын
WW11 Air Crash Detectives S01E06 ( also avail for free on youtube) has better and more accurate info about the crash. Definitely worth a watch!
@carolking6355
@carolking6355 4 ай бұрын
A very interesting theory and it does appear that plane was chartered to crash. I feel all speculations are very wrong regarding the dead who cannot defend themselves. Let them rest in peace.
@neale3871
@neale3871 3 ай бұрын
What makes it appear the plane was chartered to crash? Seems a poorly planned night flight in fog was the reason for the crash
@Tazjet100
@Tazjet100 2 ай бұрын
The aircraft was descending towards RAF Wick at the moment of impact. Speculations are not wrong everything in the official account was a lie, so parsing the facts from lies is the decent thing to do.
@MsGuppie2010
@MsGuppie2010 29 күн бұрын
I totally agree
@voyaristika5673
@voyaristika5673 4 ай бұрын
First I've seen the whole story of Prince George leading to the crash. Thank you for posting!
@marigauthier3475
@marigauthier3475 4 ай бұрын
Are you being a braggart?
@lillianmcgrew217
@lillianmcgrew217 4 ай бұрын
This is so sad 😔
@dorothywillms115
@dorothywillms115 4 ай бұрын
I’m a 75 yr. Old Canadian and I’ve heard this story years ago and no I’m not bragging. I really dislike instant bashing of another on the internet. In fact it’s nasty.
@jimsmith556
@jimsmith556 4 ай бұрын
Let me go out on a limb and say that the rear gunner did what any rational person would do; go get help. And the forms he was asked to sign would be his statement to the investigators. What a crock of supposition and nonsense to implicate him in anything without evidence.
@jeffreygoyen1309
@jeffreygoyen1309 3 ай бұрын
correct. My father ( brother of the deceased pilot, my uncle Frank ) visited Andy Jack ( tail turret operator ) post WW2 in Scotland. Jack confirmed he was sworn under the Official Secrets Act to reveal pretty much nothing....
@juliahenderson5418
@juliahenderson5418 4 ай бұрын
Love the content! I feel like this is a great high-level but comprehensive video in which one can easily take a deeper dive into researching any further questions we have. No way is a 45-minute video going to be able to deep dive into each point or answer all questions one has after watching. At any rate, thanks for providing an excellent starting point into a rabbit hole I had never heard of before. I'll definitely be googling more for some light reading (jk, nothing light on any of the points presented here) 😂📚 😊
@elspethamyoxley8537
@elspethamyoxley8537 2 ай бұрын
I like this documentary but they seem to make logical things seem suspicious: the full throttle engines, leaving a burning, explosive disaster scene to get help. Those two things seem like the most obvious things one would do in a plane crash situation.
@BonnieBlair-zm4uu
@BonnieBlair-zm4uu Ай бұрын
My Great Uncle, a navigator, died in a plane crash serving our 🇺🇸 Beloved US & I have great empathy for Prince Michael of Kent not remembering his father.☹️ My feral kitty🐈 is named after Georgie, because I adored his portrayal in the🇬🇧 British Prince John miniseries. Peaceful Repose to Great Uncle Nicknamed Moose & Prince Georgie.😇😇✝️🛐🩸🇺🇸🩸🇬🇧🌎🌍🌏
@MakerInMotion
@MakerInMotion 3 ай бұрын
31:55 Seriously? That looks like a wave to me. Bent elbow and fingers pointing straight up. He's waving.
@CFdoinggood
@CFdoinggood 3 ай бұрын
I think that Prince William bears a striking resemblance to him.
@shadowshow701
@shadowshow701 Ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking
@farinshore8900
@farinshore8900 4 ай бұрын
Great casting ! This actor looks so royal.
@cmclean6475
@cmclean6475 3 ай бұрын
General Sikorski's death in an air accident about the same time was also regarded as suspicious. Polish leader based in England by then of course. Churchil has been implicated in that too. Strangely enough, Prince George had been offered the crown of Poland and I happen to own his personal copy of the Cambridge History of Poland, from his library sold off to help out Princess Marina's estate. (Perhaps he was hoping to bone up on their culture.)
@DeirdreMcNamara
@DeirdreMcNamara 15 күн бұрын
I have no distinct memories, other than a smile when I hear a Polish accent, of living in the house of Madame Sikorski in London, but I was told that she used to sit me on her lap and feed me strawberries and cream when I was a toddler." I wish that I knew more.
@Joanla1954
@Joanla1954 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting and well done, thank you! I have never heard of this man until now.
@dorothywillms115
@dorothywillms115 4 ай бұрын
Obviously are either very young or don’t pay attention to royal history. I’m a 75 year old Canadian and my mother told me all about Princess Marina and Princess George. King George V had some CRAZY sons. No doubt about that.
@DerParsifal
@DerParsifal 4 ай бұрын
They scrubbed any reference to him for a very long time. I grew up in the British Empire and never read anything about this guy until this video! And I read a lot!
@suzyfarnham3165
@suzyfarnham3165 4 ай бұрын
I knew all about this accident in school and I am in Australia? I am in my 60's?
@DerParsifal
@DerParsifal 4 ай бұрын
@@suzyfarnham3165 Canadian here. I guess Canada wasn't plugged in as well as Oz.
@guyh9992
@guyh9992 4 ай бұрын
He was known in Australia because he had been selected to be the next Governor-General. After his death his brother the Duke of Gloucester got the job after WWII instead.
@aureyd2515
@aureyd2515 3 ай бұрын
Yes, I've watched a lot of BBC documentaries over the years and was always given the impression there were only the two oldest boys. On the other hand, the RF have always glossed over the children that died, or the inconvenient offspring. I came looking after reading a fictional story based on the event, thinking it was totally fictional. But no, the story was actually based on a real incident.
@cynthiastrawson3316
@cynthiastrawson3316 2 ай бұрын
My mother told me quite a lot of this story in the early 1960s. She and my aunts also talked about Prince Philips paramours.
@petefinnegan3873
@petefinnegan3873 4 ай бұрын
have a photo of my uncle meeting him beside his spitfire ,he mentioned the crash that killed him.
@thebostonbrawler1
@thebostonbrawler1 4 ай бұрын
In every conflict of war, the countries in the conflict set up envoys immediately that begin communications/negotiations with their enemies. Where most of the time, they are not in heated negotiations but later, when necessary are there to talk shop.
@bekymooneyham5056
@bekymooneyham5056 4 ай бұрын
19:55 he talks about unfortunate deaths (just spoke of Violet and Kiki) making George change his ways. Those two women died AFTER George died.
@lynnebarnes3840
@lynnebarnes3840 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, fact checker.
@kittymervine6115
@kittymervine6115 3 ай бұрын
yep, this wasn't totally fact checked....and I think most court historians would know this off the cuff.
@julianciahaconsulting8663
@julianciahaconsulting8663 2 ай бұрын
well there goes my conspiracy theory that they were silenced by operatives of the Royal Family for being bad influences on Prince George haha
@167curly
@167curly 4 ай бұрын
The brief footage at 10.30 minutes of the princes' South American tour was actually in Bermuda in 1931. Prince David laid the foundation stone of Bermuda's Cenotaph war memorial then.
@manymany4879
@manymany4879 Ай бұрын
10:30
@studiolezard
@studiolezard 4 ай бұрын
This would make a great movie.
@conniekivuti9528
@conniekivuti9528 2 ай бұрын
P
@kristi4113
@kristi4113 4 ай бұрын
This is the first time I’ve ever heard that the Duke of Kent was wanting his country to surrender…and I don’t believe it.
@peachygal4153
@peachygal4153 3 ай бұрын
Not surrender but make peace. You know like what happened in Vietnam. That war was not won but peace was sued for, and it was stopped. Technically North Vietnam won since they stayed communist, but US authorities say no one won, they sued for peace.
@docbrummer2532
@docbrummer2532 3 ай бұрын
You need to read much more into British royal family history. They were German. It’s widely known the royal family wanted to make peace with Germany.
@kristi4113
@kristi4113 3 ай бұрын
@@docbrummer2532 I read all the time, and I know they were German. However…what does your truly rude comment have to do with anything?
@julianciahaconsulting8663
@julianciahaconsulting8663 2 ай бұрын
North Vietnam definitely won the war since they went on to take South Vietnam and unite it under the communist banner which was the main thing the USA got into the war to prevent.@@peachygal4153
@jacksimpson-rogers1069
@jacksimpson-rogers1069 Ай бұрын
@@docbrummer2532 It occurs to me that "Bertie" married a Scotswoman, and spent some time in the highlands. I think, having been born in Edinburgh, that the Scots were at least as hostile to Hitler's Germany as the English "working classes". I do not believe George VI cared about his German ancestry. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon might well have helped him get rid of it.
@bonckers
@bonckers 4 ай бұрын
A very interesting documentary!(and James sherwood’s suit is gorgeous ❤️)
@BlackStump172
@BlackStump172 4 ай бұрын
What garbage . The plain flew into the side of the hill .
@roxannlegg750
@roxannlegg750 4 ай бұрын
No - two experienced pilots? And if you see the site of the crash (the memorial) its not really the "side of a hill", its just one of all the hills that make up the whole landscape, so clearing them was a pilots job. Its not like they were flying over flat land and hit a hill they didnt see. Experienced RAF dont "just fly into the side of a hill". They were headed for Iceland, that takes experience and planning esp in those days.
@doncooper6801
@doncooper6801 4 ай бұрын
Why is video of a Me262 shown when the audio says Me 110?
@brentvfreiberger
@brentvfreiberger 4 ай бұрын
Bad editing?
@mandywalkden-brown7250
@mandywalkden-brown7250 4 ай бұрын
Because they don’t appear to have any ability to cite actual facts, anywhere in this video. Very poor. Laughable even.
@user-rd4eh5gu7e
@user-rd4eh5gu7e 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely no evidence presented. The circumstances of the Sunderland crash are not investigated. Was the plane on course? What was the weather like - specifically the cloud base? Was the plane flying low to verify its position? If it was brought down by a bomb why would this not have been timed to explode over the sea where no evidence would have been left. What happened to the surviving gunner? The issue of the range of the ME 110 is countered by the fact that Hess ordered long range fuel tanks to be fitted to it (I guess someone would say that this was part of the cover up - but it should be mentioned). A coup against Churchill would have taken a lot of planning and would have involved politicians and senior army offices and it would have been very difficult not to leave any evidence. If there was a peace plan organized with the Royal Family why didn't Hess - or any of the other defendants - use this as part of their defense at Nuremburg?
@forrestunderwood3174
@forrestunderwood3174 4 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@danielabbey7726
@danielabbey7726 4 ай бұрын
Excellent questions!
@wekapeka3493
@wekapeka3493 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, this program is ridiculous.
@harrickvharrick3957
@harrickvharrick3957 4 ай бұрын
Except for the conspiracy aspect(s) to it this production still does well in another aspect: it paints the picture of George's young life and how he was as a person. Lot of great pieces of contemporary footage. Maybe we should take the rest with a grain of salt, it just may be necessary nowadays to add something like that simply to get (to) the attention of the viewer?
@jfryer485
@jfryer485 4 ай бұрын
One clue is that wreckage was over a wide area. This is typical if there was a bomb aboard. It would also make the reason why the survivor wasn’t happy to stay by the plane. Survival instinct normally is stay put unless there is a bigger problem. I dont rule any scenario out if reasonable and this is eminently reasonable. George V himself has been argued as not a natural death. There was talk of a military coup when Harold Wilson was PM etc etc One thing I find strange is that I never knew of this person at all not that means much but he does seem to be well hidden for such a colourful character.
@bbybella9937
@bbybella9937 4 ай бұрын
The way they didn’t mention how George possible illegitimate child was married to Jackie Kennedy’s sister????
@cmclean6475
@cmclean6475 3 ай бұрын
Proven now, and Lee Radziwill was his first wife, second one ex-Duchess of ?Marlborough (from memory)
@etschmitz
@etschmitz Ай бұрын
Re: Michael Canfield, this is the first doc I’ve seen that gives a different mother for him than Kiki Preston.
@moiraatkinson
@moiraatkinson 4 ай бұрын
What an interesting video! I’m not into either royalty or the war particularly so I hadn’t heard about this and don’t obviously have a previous opinion. I think a lot of so called conspiracy theories are false, but when people keep things secret it’s asking for suspicion. Enjoyed the video and have subscribed.
@Here_kitty_kitty1-wg9xd
@Here_kitty_kitty1-wg9xd 4 ай бұрын
You don’t know the facts and certainly won’t learn them on this channel.
@davidlogan4329
@davidlogan4329 3 ай бұрын
totally fake
@moiraatkinson
@moiraatkinson 3 ай бұрын
Is it? I can’t argue either way. Why do you say it’s fake?
@julianciahaconsulting8663
@julianciahaconsulting8663 2 ай бұрын
Well you dont know the "facts" either since so many of the records that would contain those "facts" are either destroyed or have vanished or still are inaccessible due to still being " secret"@@Here_kitty_kitty1-wg9xd
@julianciahaconsulting8663
@julianciahaconsulting8663 2 ай бұрын
I think he is one of those people who instantly label any explanation for an event that differs from the Official Narrative a "conspiracy theory" and believes all "conspiracy theories" are fake - ignoring the huge number of so called "conspiracy theories" that at the end of the day were shown to have been true or at least much closer to the Truth than the Official Narratives were.....to believe that uber rich and powerful individuals & organizations never conspire at times to increase their wealth and power - presumably because they are too busy trying to increase the quality of Life for all - is more insane than believing in the most insane "conspiracy theory"!@@moiraatkinson
@SuperZytoon
@SuperZytoon 4 ай бұрын
The Royal Princes certainly bore a strong resemblance to one another.
@magicmarker7047
@magicmarker7047 4 ай бұрын
Prince Andrew looks a lot like him.
@thumpyfuzz
@thumpyfuzz 4 ай бұрын
Inbreeding
@One.DeSanctis.
@One.DeSanctis. 3 ай бұрын
​@@thumpyfuzz yes
@Jess-C
@Jess-C Ай бұрын
​@@magicmarker7047 I was thinking exactly the same he is very like Prince George!
@DeirdreMcNamara
@DeirdreMcNamara 15 күн бұрын
@@thumpyfuzz limited gene pool...why they "breed out...."
@cynthiamorgan7756
@cynthiamorgan7756 22 күн бұрын
Williams Prince George looks exactly like him & king George. Its amazing, the same eyes etc.
@davidrelite6239
@davidrelite6239 4 ай бұрын
What happened to the Sgt who survived the crash? Did he survive the war?
@scottlyons8130
@scottlyons8130 4 ай бұрын
But his father was totally a navy man. He also was a strict disciplinary.
@russyeatman5631
@russyeatman5631 Ай бұрын
"Lets not forget that the House of Windsor was (and IS) German".
@roypiltdown5083
@roypiltdown5083 3 ай бұрын
not really sure why the film showed (very prominently) an Me-262 jet fighter during the narration of Hess' flight to Scotland, when such a plane was not flown until several years later and Hess in fact flew a Henkel 110, a propeller-driven fighter/bomber. just wanted to make that clear.
@roypiltdown5083
@roypiltdown5083 3 ай бұрын
my error: i called it a Henkel 110, when it was in fact a Messerschmitt machine. later in the film they raise questions about the aircraft's range, and that it should not have been able to have made the flight without refuelling - however, at least two histories report that his plane had been modified with long-range fuel tanks (Nesbit & van Acker)
@lindahemi6809
@lindahemi6809 4 ай бұрын
Never heard of this man Prince George the Duke of Kent, until watching this documentary.
@jessiejames7492
@jessiejames7492 4 ай бұрын
Yes neither did i. More secrets in the royal family than we know of. Also those of elizabeth boweds lyon’s two aged aunts who died in a home. They were born a bit disadvantaged mentally and they were hidden away. Like one of the queens uncles. Prince john who was born with a medical problem. His nannies raised him. V interested story. Handsome boy. Died young
@judymcgaugh6480
@judymcgaugh6480 3 ай бұрын
Its another mystery that we are not suppose to know the truth about. So we won't.. everyone has their ideas, but the truth is buried .. but maybe one day paperwork will show up with the truth . Right now tho its one of speculation ..
@maryjohnson-hf4hc
@maryjohnson-hf4hc Ай бұрын
No smoke without fire?
@troynov1965
@troynov1965 4 ай бұрын
34:43 LOL Hess did not fly a ME 262 to England so why even show one? They did not even have a jet powered prototype of the 262 in 41.
@carlcushmanhybels8159
@carlcushmanhybels8159 4 ай бұрын
I agree! I think someone didn't look closely at the pics they'd chosen: They saw 2 engines: so thought 'ME 110' They didn't notice: 'Those are jet engines!' {ME 262.}
@fokkerd3red618
@fokkerd3red618 4 ай бұрын
They make it appear Hess flew a jet. Which is nonsense. Germany hadn't even developed this jet fighter yet.
@briangraham1024
@briangraham1024 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree. Major brain-cramp by the video editor on that one! 😂
@Johnnycdrums
@Johnnycdrums 15 күн бұрын
The "Happy Valley Set" were crazy, just crazy.
@aannddrryyaa
@aannddrryyaa 3 ай бұрын
You know the same argument can be made for King Charles III. As Prince Charles, he was, apparently, quite sensitive, artistic and caring. Prince Philippe insisting he go to his old school, nearly destroyed the gentle soul. I believe Prince Philippe intended to help his son and by no means believe he meant anything but to help Prince Charles toughen up.
@kathycoxwell4987
@kathycoxwell4987 6 күн бұрын
There are other ways to “ toughen up “ boys without sending them off to schools with antiquated rules and regulations. Charles would have thrived at Eton. That world would have been his oyster.
@WestVirginia1959
@WestVirginia1959 4 ай бұрын
"A Royal Air Force Board of Inquiry determined that the crash was the result of a navigational error by the crew." Prince George and 14 other people died.
@shadowshow701
@shadowshow701 Ай бұрын
Were they give the right directions at the flight briefing though. Remember what happened in the Mt Erebus disaster
@GGsInterests
@GGsInterests 3 ай бұрын
WOW...make some sense out of Hesse's "crazy" trip.
@carmelbrain7399
@carmelbrain7399 4 ай бұрын
Great observations
@luzvaldes1030
@luzvaldes1030 4 ай бұрын
At certain angles, Prince George reminds me so much of Prince William, Duke of Wales…not unsurprising as they are related
@janpadilla7811
@janpadilla7811 3 ай бұрын
I've noticed that as well!. Its a marked resemblance.
@janpadilla7811
@janpadilla7811 3 ай бұрын
I've noticed that as well!. Its a marked resemblance.
@piscesempress1978
@piscesempress1978 3 ай бұрын
When I first saw Prince George, I said, wow he looks so much like William. Both handsome
@missytanner3501
@missytanner3501 Ай бұрын
Prince of Wales not Duke
@arturs2436
@arturs2436 3 ай бұрын
On 16:50 is mentioned that "Michael went on to marry Laura Charteris Duchess of Marlborough". That is not true has she only got that title, after Michael Canfield died, throught her 4th and final marriage with John Spencer-Churchill, 10th Duke of Marlborough. I also have to note that Kiki Preston is rumored to be his mom, not Violet. So thats up forr debate rather.
@Horgi-vv2kh
@Horgi-vv2kh Ай бұрын
Well what happened to the guy who survived the crash is there no information from him where is it all ?
@jeanmesseih3963
@jeanmesseih3963 Ай бұрын
If you scroll all the way back to the beginning of the comments, you will find one from jackgoyen1309 (if my memory serves me correctly). He tells us that after the war, his father, (cousin to the pilot) visited the Sgt who told him absolutely nothing. Someone else also made a similar comment. So at least we know that he survived the war - even though he had no information to pass on
@Horgi-vv2kh
@Horgi-vv2kh Ай бұрын
@@jeanmesseih3963 Thank you !
@cassandratq9301
@cassandratq9301 17 күн бұрын
He signed a confidentiality agreement with the government, but may not have had anything useful to tell, anyway. Papers still sealed.
@johnhenderson131
@johnhenderson131 4 ай бұрын
Your saying that because Hesse bailed out and his plane crashed the entire mission fell apart? Why wasn’t Hesse sentenced to death at the Nuremberg trials? What kept him quiet then and all those years in Spandau prison. Hesse didn’t just set out without any plan but there’s still information missing. 40:27 As for the prince dying in a plane crash? A lot of planes crashed, especially then and being a member of the Royal family won’t protect you.
@BlackStump172
@BlackStump172 4 ай бұрын
Like Prince Richard .
@johnhenderson131
@johnhenderson131 4 ай бұрын
@@BlackStump172 Are you referring to The prince Richard, Duke of York back from back around 1485? The Battle of Bosworth? I like history, mostly military history and I’ve read as much as I can but my knowledge of old royal history is limited so forgive me but your knowledge is obviously greater than mine on the subject of that Prince Richard. I believe he and his brother were both murdered by orders from the Tudors but that about exhausts what I know. I’d appreciate it if you could fill me in on what I don’t know. Sorry, that’s a big task for one person considering how much I don’t know!
@BlackStump172
@BlackStump172 4 ай бұрын
@@johnhenderson131 Sorry , I meant Prince William of Gloucester , the older brother of Prince Richard ,the Duke of Gloucester .
@michaelplunkett8059
@michaelplunkett8059 4 ай бұрын
Ask Glen Miller.
@HowieHoward-ti3dx
@HowieHoward-ti3dx 4 ай бұрын
Maybe Hess was threatened by the allies that he would be sentenced to death if he opened his mouth. or threatened his family. You never know.
@RANDALLBRIGGS
@RANDALLBRIGGS 4 ай бұрын
Rudolf Hess certainly did not fly to Scotland in a Messerschmitt Me 262 jet fighter in May 1941 as is shown at 34:45. He was not a pilot and the Me 262 was not in operational service.
@annnee6818
@annnee6818 2 ай бұрын
He was in Scotland though, how did he get there?
@russyeatman5631
@russyeatman5631 Ай бұрын
And, when it was operational it did not have the range to fly to the northern part of Great Britian.
@denisecraig3548
@denisecraig3548 4 ай бұрын
Oh yes! I heard through years of lost “papers” that there was coup underway and Churchill did know about it and DID take some sort of action. When anyone “steps off onto an action like this-anything can and usually does happen”.
@cmclean6475
@cmclean6475 3 ай бұрын
Quite a likely version as the Royal Family still has an embargo on the business. Friends in the UK write they can't view this so it must be geo-blocked. The Queen's Lost Uncle, on PG (fascinating Channel4 doco) used to be outside the UK, not sure if still?
@julianciahaconsulting8663
@julianciahaconsulting8663 2 ай бұрын
Churchill banishing Edward to Bermuda during the war was one way it was dealt with
@DeirdreMcNamara
@DeirdreMcNamara 15 күн бұрын
Assassination was not Winnie's style...other parties may have been involved, but I'm out of my depth here, so many fine, genuine experts with hard facts. Intriguing.
@OscarRodriguez-ys1bf
@OscarRodriguez-ys1bf 4 ай бұрын
Inaccurate! Prince George died in 1942. Kiki Preston died in 1946. He was not changed because her passing. He died first!
@peachygal4153
@peachygal4153 3 ай бұрын
that was not said. It said she got him addicted and she later committed suicide.
@idw9159
@idw9159 3 ай бұрын
you are correct, the documentary implies she and others died in the 30s changing prince george; wikipedia indicates michael canfield was considered by edward viii to be the illegitimate son of prince george and kiki preston, so something else may be inconsistent; canfield died in 1969 aged 43 of a heart attack on a plane trip; he was formerly married to jackie kennedy's sister
@patriciatoomingtheplantpar2558
@patriciatoomingtheplantpar2558 4 ай бұрын
So I'm assuming that there is no accessible history of the gunners recount of the events anywhere. Did he not have any information passed along? Family friends, notes in Bibles, diary's, NOTHING? Did he end up dying in hospital or did he live on? Ugh... COME ON
@denisecraig3548
@denisecraig3548 4 ай бұрын
I agree, there MUST be more information SOMEWHERE???!!!! Come one--????
@silverc4s146
@silverc4s146 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like he was required to sign the official secrets act. He could never speak of this after that happens.
@jeffreygoyen1309
@jeffreygoyen1309 3 ай бұрын
correct. My father ( brother of the deceased pilot, my uncle Frank ) visited Andy Jack ( tail turret operator ) post WW2 in Scotland. Jack confirmed he was sworn under the Official Secrets Act to reveal pretty much nothing....
@colemarsh13
@colemarsh13 Ай бұрын
Fascinating
@farinshore8900
@farinshore8900 4 ай бұрын
The question is, where is thr proof of these claims ?
@SacredDreamer
@SacredDreamer 3 ай бұрын
Sealed , or Lost, or Missing.
@cindchan
@cindchan 4 ай бұрын
In another video, someone said that Edward and George were cut from the same gin-soaked cloth and I've never forgotten that. Personally, I think the crash was an accident.
@meganlangreck2488
@meganlangreck2488 4 ай бұрын
So there was King George VI, and Prince George, and they were brothers. George and his younger brother George.
@marializaregalado6747
@marializaregalado6747 4 ай бұрын
KG6 was born and named Albert I think but took George6 after his father the 5th
@lindabidwell6722
@lindabidwell6722 4 ай бұрын
😂 Yes. Like "I'm Darryl, and these are my brothers, Darryl and Darryl ".
@DoubleMonoLR
@DoubleMonoLR 4 ай бұрын
They had nothing on George Foreman - one of his daughters is named Georgetta, his sons are named George, George, George, George, and...George (George VI, to make it sound royal).
@HH-vv2sk
@HH-vv2sk 4 ай бұрын
They should add that apart from getting new historical information from this post, you will laugh until your tummy gets sore and everybody will be happy 😅
@lorifintel9784
@lorifintel9784 Ай бұрын
​@@lindabidwell6722😂 now that's a throwback!
@michaelgabriel7919
@michaelgabriel7919 4 ай бұрын
I saw this item in my suggested feed... and I was curious. I've never heard of the Duke of Kent (at least that one). After watching... I was curious.. it all sounds so intriguing... so scandalous... and so radical. The British royal family conspiring with Nazis... planning a coup d'état... it seem so crazy. BUT... Why was were the royals involved? The suspiciousness of the events... the players present... the circumstances... the apparent cover-up. And then there are ALL the unanswered questions... and the sloppy cover story and follow-ups.
@DeirdreMcNamara
@DeirdreMcNamara 15 күн бұрын
They keep their German traditions, cost five hundred million sterling to maintain annually, and so on.Vic und Albrecht spoke exclusively in German to one another, etc.
@user-tz5pv6ih7m
@user-tz5pv6ih7m 3 ай бұрын
They appear to be basing the story on the fact that the gunner at the back of the plane tried to get away from the plane as soon as he became conscious. Of course he would. Anyone with only half a mind knows that the plane might explode and anyone in the vicinity would be killed, if not burnt alive. What stands out for me is the amount of money that was scattered around, what was this money for or who was it for? And if there really was a lot of money scattered around why didn't the country folk who first went to the plane help themselves to it? Would they have taken the chance considering they probably knew that the plane could explode? I doubt we will ever know the entire truth of the whole story.
@cmclean6475
@cmclean6475 2 ай бұрын
There is a news account I have where it says First Responders also were puzzled at the strong smell of perfume when they arrived!!
@seattlebeard
@seattlebeard Ай бұрын
Icelandic Krónas wouldn't be much use to anyone in Scotland. And it's unfair to assume locals would steal from a plane crash.
@jacksimpson-rogers1069
@jacksimpson-rogers1069 Ай бұрын
Not too easy to cash kroner in the Highlands of Scotland. It was presumably for spending in Iceland.
@crystallineblue4344
@crystallineblue4344 3 күн бұрын
The fact that you accuse other people of stealing indicates that You are a dishonest person, capable of thievery.
@klaushaunstrupchristensen7252
@klaushaunstrupchristensen7252 4 ай бұрын
Sounds to speculative for me. There’s one year and three months between Hess’s flight and the death of Prince George. By the way I am absolutely convinced Hess did flew without anyone in Germany knowing. Had it been an arranged trip he would have been flown incognito to a country of neutrality like Sweden or Switzerland. And why would George try to bring the UK out of the war at this late stage, after the USA had entered the war? In my mind it was an accident.
@tatuloa
@tatuloa 4 ай бұрын
A sunderland is a pretty reliable flying boat .....
@josehurtado2782
@josehurtado2782 Ай бұрын
Has this painful story anything to do with the strange death ,many years later, of Rudolf Hess at the Spandau prison in Berlin?
@fiachramaccana280
@fiachramaccana280 2 ай бұрын
It was a tragic accident. End of.
@carolking6355
@carolking6355 4 ай бұрын
This is wonderful but while I am only half way through I need to contradict the comment that Britain declared war on Germany. The fact was that Britain was told if they did not hear from Germany by a certain time they would be at war with Germany. Britain heard nothing and declared because of this they were at war with Germany. This is quite different. Am so enjoying this regarding Prince George . Who I see as a sweet man so far, I will return to the story.
@michaelplunkett8059
@michaelplunkett8059 4 ай бұрын
Leaving out the causal invasion of ally Poland makes UK look aggressive.
@davidlogan4329
@davidlogan4329 3 ай бұрын
@@michaelplunkett8059 it was not a casual invasion. It was deliberately planned.
@danutat9915
@danutat9915 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting thank you. 🇨🇦✌
@sheilabernadetteclairemcin1107
@sheilabernadetteclairemcin1107 4 ай бұрын
Never heard of him before this ......
@SubCultureVulture702
@SubCultureVulture702 2 ай бұрын
Was anyone else distracted by the man having the blue tape holding his glasses together ?
@julianciahaconsulting8663
@julianciahaconsulting8663 2 ай бұрын
it gave him more credibility as a historian in my books haha
@jeannadriver9552
@jeannadriver9552 Ай бұрын
Wow, Prince George MAJORLY looks like Prince Andrew! Incredible...
@theresaschmidt1183
@theresaschmidt1183 11 күн бұрын
More like Prince Edward in my opinion.
@isilder
@isilder 3 ай бұрын
He was being sent to Iceland to get him out of the way, to an isolated place, where he could be watched and kept safe. They got Edward out of the way by sending him away to somewhere isolated too... Its just an accident.. the pilot may have known that continuing on would surely result in impact with terrain , so he took the chance to try to drop down below the clouds and then avoid the hills .
@helenorgarycrevonis2022
@helenorgarycrevonis2022 2 ай бұрын
interesting, and has a ring of common sense.
@russyeatman5631
@russyeatman5631 Ай бұрын
And perhaps to negotiate for concession to allow Allies to build aerodrome and naval base to close the "mid Atlantic gap" where Allied aircraft could not cover convoys to Murmansk which were helping to keep the Soviets in the war. Britain and USA needed Soviets to stay in war. Without Soviet pressure in the East tying up infantry and armor units the DD landing might have been pushed back into the Channel.
@847Carole
@847Carole 4 ай бұрын
THe Duke of Kent was a party person but he was not a traitor.
@HonestlyYours516
@HonestlyYours516 4 ай бұрын
Fascinating video.
@johnvonundzu2170
@johnvonundzu2170 4 ай бұрын
Strange that here the then prince of Wales is repeatedly called "Edward". No one called him that - except very officially.
@linshore7451
@linshore7451 2 ай бұрын
Only family called him David.
@Ira88881
@Ira88881 4 ай бұрын
Can someone explain this to me about Hess? Wasn’t he imprisoned before the genocide began, and tried to make peace with England? So why did he get a life sentence?
@carlcushmanhybels8159
@carlcushmanhybels8159 4 ай бұрын
In '41 the Holocaust and its blows like Kristalnaacht were already 'well' under way.
@hydrashieldbasementservice8453
@hydrashieldbasementservice8453 4 ай бұрын
His story was damaging to some people.
@susannaemmerich1166
@susannaemmerich1166 Ай бұрын
Well if you u look at what has happened since and is going on today, there is nou doubt in my mind, there was foul play. My opinion.🙃🎶🎶🎶🙏
@carinakaron8068
@carinakaron8068 4 ай бұрын
All conjecture
@prairiehills416
@prairiehills416 4 ай бұрын
Assination. The only survivor, terriot gunner, ran from tge accident scene. Subsequently, signed a Confidentiality Agreement to keep his mouth shut. Or, ?????
@robertballard8833
@robertballard8833 4 ай бұрын
Rare Selmer Cigar Cutter Alto Sax @ 6:35
@tnteachertim
@tnteachertim 19 күн бұрын
Can it really be called an attempted "Coup", when the peacemaker is of the Royal Family, and the warmonger is not?
@cassandratq9301
@cassandratq9301 17 күн бұрын
Yes! It's an attempted overthrow of the duly-elected government.
@Meine.Postma
@Meine.Postma 4 ай бұрын
It also makes sense that the Brits would not want Hess to be released from prison and murdered him before he was let go
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 4 ай бұрын
Seriously? And they would wait, until he reached the ripe old age of 93 b4 knocking him off? When there were sooooo many opportunities for him to just disappear or meet an "accident" or whatever, b4 he ever made it to Spandau? Get real.
@q.e.d.9112
@q.e.d.9112 4 ай бұрын
@@dfuher968 Yet 16 idiots (so far) have upvoted that post. Churchill had Hess as a prisoner in isolation until 1946 AND Spandau prison governance rotated between Britain, America and Russia so the British had many years when they could have knocked him off, if they’d had a mind to. It was the Russians who blocked his release, every time it was raised on humanitarian grounds as Hess became aged.
@raynonabohrer5624
@raynonabohrer5624 4 ай бұрын
What happened to his family.?? He had three children.?
@Ira88881
@Ira88881 4 ай бұрын
The kids are still alive, I believe. I Wiki’d it recently.
@user-fm5jk8gc9n
@user-fm5jk8gc9n 4 ай бұрын
Prince Edward Duke of Kent is the wee baby in the video, he is very old now with his wife being the oldest member of the royal family living, His sister is Princess Alexandra and his brother is Prince Micheal of Kent Their mother was left a war widow Prince Edward Duke of Kent is still offically a working royal and you can see him along with his sister in the corrination photos of King Charles Prince Edward Duke of Kent recently released his memories, it was a very enjoyable read
@dorothywillms115
@dorothywillms115 4 ай бұрын
@@Ira88881 goodness gracious they are old now but were at the kings coronation. Princess Alexandra was very close to the Queen and was the princess Royal for some time. Rightly respected,all of them. Read up on your history.
@Ira88881
@Ira88881 4 ай бұрын
@@dorothywillms115 I can’t say for SURE they’re all still alive, but I saw a recent video which said yes. But it’s not my history. I’m an American and think the Monarchy is a joke…a joke that a lot of Brits just don’t get.
@xxxxxxxxx3944
@xxxxxxxxx3944 4 ай бұрын
Alexandra was the late queen's only female cousin on her father's side. ​@@dorothywillms115
@user-nf6zs4sw7y
@user-nf6zs4sw7y 4 ай бұрын
This is SILLY
@johnholmes6897
@johnholmes6897 3 ай бұрын
War birds were built fast for obvious reasons. Lots of them went down without being shot down.
@dreamsrmadeof
@dreamsrmadeof 4 ай бұрын
I wonder why British shows have such loud background music?
@howardsimpson489
@howardsimpson489 4 ай бұрын
And why they have such beautifully pronounced BS.
@PaulineYao-dx1co
@PaulineYao-dx1co 3 ай бұрын
This prince is very handsome.
@davidlogan4329
@davidlogan4329 3 ай бұрын
He looked like his grandmother, Queen Alexandra.
@goldsburypeter116
@goldsburypeter116 4 ай бұрын
Is the person who wrote the English subtitles a naive speaker of English? There are so many mistakes that this seems very unlikely.
@raywilliams6896
@raywilliams6896 4 ай бұрын
Some things to bear in mind: It is true that the Royal Family had German relatives, but I do not think that that alone would have been a strong enough reason to foment a coup. On the other hand Germany was fighting the communist Russia - and the communists were quite ruthless to royals and aristocracy. Thus the Royal Family may have hoped that communism would be overthrown. And so it could be mooted that they could have favored suing for peace with Germany to permit Germany to concentrate on its other front and defeat the Russians. And, perhaps in the backs of their minds, they could have thought that this would buy time for Britain to regroup, build up forces, and then, when Germany was further weakened by a war with Russia, rejoin the battle. By August 1942 when the Sunderland crashed the news of the extermination of Jewish people by the Nazis was only just being heard by the Allies, so at that time there were people in Britain who would have sided with anyone fighting communism since communism was very Anti-Christian. The tail gunner apparently never spoke about the crash to family or friends afterwards which makes it seem likely he was hit with the Emergency Powers Act. This seems like overkill for a routine flight to a RAF base in Iceland. What were they afraid of him saying? There are two items mentioned on the Internet but with little corroboration: (a) He mentioned that there was one other person (not on the list of the dead) on board; (b) The Duke (who was a pilot, but probably not of 4-engine aircraft (my remark)) was at the controls. So possibly this second comment might have been the reason for making him keep quiet. The crash site was meticulously cleared by the military. This is another facet quoted by those suggesting a cover-up. If the aircraft had been sabotaged the wreckage would have given clues as to what had happened.
@winkieblink7625
@winkieblink7625 4 ай бұрын
Is there evidence Prince George and Rudolph Hess can be connected?
@davidlogan4329
@davidlogan4329 3 ай бұрын
no
@prizecowproductions
@prizecowproductions 4 ай бұрын
To put things in context The Russian KGB files were opened up for scrutiny why is it the British Security Service is unwilling to do the same. It prompts me to think Queen Elizabeth 2 knew the family history and worked 3 times as hard for her loyal subjects. Speculation yes but is it that far from possibility. Aussie Jeff Moore
@brentvfreiberger
@brentvfreiberger 4 ай бұрын
former КГБ files were opened after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. The British Royal Family still holds the throne.
@cassandratq9301
@cassandratq9301 17 күн бұрын
Yes!
@chriscaughey1103
@chriscaughey1103 4 ай бұрын
Oh, does he look like Prince Andrew!!
@piscesempress1978
@piscesempress1978 3 ай бұрын
More like William.
@stevep5408
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An example to the royal family by the security servicesll?
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