Barbarians - Is This Netflix Show Historically Accurate?

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Barbarians - Is This Netflix Show Historically Accurate?

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Are the weapons and armour seen in the show Barbarians correct? Is the clothing? Are the events accurate to what we know has happened during this dramatic defeat in the German forest of Teutoburg? Let's find out.
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@LarryGarfieldCrell 3 жыл бұрын

Regarding the polish of the helmets, that may be for theatrical purposes. A big shiny piece of metal in the middle of the shot is going to create a ton of glare for the camera. If your goal is to blind and intimidate your opponent, that's great. If you want to get a good color-balanced shot with a modern camera, dulling the steel is probably a practical necessity.

@BTobiasJ 3 жыл бұрын

Commenting to boost this comment.

@a2c546 3 жыл бұрын

Good point.

@TheCoffeehound 3 жыл бұрын

That is something I should have known, but didn't consider. Upvoted so Metatron sees it.

@shibolinemress8913 3 жыл бұрын

That was my thought, too. Unless you're JJ, you don't want those flares 😉.

@riograndedosulball248 3 жыл бұрын

As a photographer, i endorse this. Nothing worse than big shiny stuff glaring at random points in your picture

@GoodPotatoes 3 жыл бұрын

Just FYI, on a film set when using horses you almost HAVE to have stirrups legally. It's a danger to the actors and the unions have deemed them necessary, so I wouldn't be too hard on them for that. It's a detail that doesn't have a huge difference in historical accuracy and makes it a LOT safer for the actors.

@fransbuijs808 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I was already thinking that they used the stirrups to make the riding safer and easier for the actors, but I didn't know that it was a rule. Makes sense.

@kunit2012 3 жыл бұрын

Commenting just to give this comment more attention because it deserves it.

@Tom-tv7qf 3 жыл бұрын

+ no insurace wouldn't cover no damages if they havent used them.

@bossmoffelinc1884 3 жыл бұрын

This.

@L4sz10 3 жыл бұрын

In the HBO show Rome I think there are no stirrups. They even show that Caesar gets on his horse stepping on the back of a servant.

@Suiram82 3 жыл бұрын

This show was much better than I feared. I mean Netflix has a very poor track record for this genre, but it was actually decent.

@nurval1093 3 жыл бұрын

you're wrong. netflix have a lot of amazing shows of the same genre. the last kingdom, knightfall, the frontier, etc.

@helios4753 3 жыл бұрын

Poor is an understatement

@Suiram82 3 жыл бұрын

@@nurval1093 Agree on The Last Kingdom, Knightfall not so much.

@thelobsterperson 3 жыл бұрын

I think the Last Kingdom was BBC

@kostja789 3 жыл бұрын

Its actually a German Show

@waaagh3203 3 жыл бұрын

Roman Soldier 1: "Why are we wearing 20 pounds of armor when it provides zero protection from basic weapon attacks?" Roman Soldier 2: "More to the point, why is the government putting so much money into the labor intensive act of producing enough armor for entire armies if they provide no defense?"

@gangrenousgandalf2102 3 жыл бұрын

"How did a simple civilian take one of our soldiers out in an unarmed tussle even though he was trained in wrestling?"

@dusk6159 2 жыл бұрын

This hits even harder to a medieval knight

@thecakecakecake8198 2 жыл бұрын

@@dusk6159 a knights full plate armor was extremely effective though

@dusk6159 2 жыл бұрын

@@thecakecakecake8198 And that's why it's more confusing and impactful to them

@yeetmeister8927 2 жыл бұрын

That last episode when the sharp sticks hit with the same force as a ballista bolt.

@TreiberSeptim 3 жыл бұрын

The show really shines if you’re German, because it really makes the Romans seem like foreigners, the way the Germans saw them. It’s a cool way to see Romans.

@williamthekiller7219 3 жыл бұрын

I'm more convinced to believe arminius about Rome... If only he didn't forget about it in the end, cause he was right after all...

@loxodoncyclotis1823 3 жыл бұрын

What I find ironic is that the Eagle of Rome is now the national symbol of Germany.

@williamthekiller7219 3 жыл бұрын

@@loxodoncyclotis1823 haha, they did kiss the eagle..it's fate

@OkabexKurisu 3 жыл бұрын

actually hurt to see this show as a german.

@TreiberSeptim 3 жыл бұрын

@@OkabexKurisu why? It’s German, if you watch it, watch it in the original

@deathofchanel8568 3 жыл бұрын

A cool thing about roman costumes you didnt mention, the soldiers were wearing scarfs to stop the armor cutting them which we know is historically accurate

@dumitrache12 3 жыл бұрын

I would rather think scarfs are worn to protect the armour from rain and other elements and to keep the soldiers warm since at the time Germania was a freezing hell hole. Armour cutting its wearer seems like bad a armour smith.

@ThunderAndGuillon 3 жыл бұрын

@@dumitrache12 The Romans did most definitely wear scarfs to protect against their armour. It has nothing to do with bad armour smiths. Just rub a blunt piece of metal on your skin, eventually it will start to cut in.

@DLockholm 3 жыл бұрын

@@dumitrache12 No, it is well known that the scarf is to protect the neck form sharp edges on that part of the armor (if any, because of quality differences), bruises or/and painful pinches.

@ee12321 3 жыл бұрын

They also had them to use as bandage if they got hurt in battle and no medic was aveilable

@deusvult6164 3 жыл бұрын

they also used them as pillows

@Masuuruhiito 3 жыл бұрын

No stirrups, no insurance coverage from insurance company in case of riding accidents during filming. Plain as that.

@mangalores-x_x 3 жыл бұрын

That complaint is really annoying me on various channels. There is talking about historical authenticity and there is ignoring realities of the modern world. Like insurance pay or plainly that an actor might be trained in horse riding, which in our times means with a saddle, stirrups and harness so he won't be trained riding without stirrups and feel comfortable controlling a horse while acting without them. In the same vein what stunt coordinators would do to a historian who wants to force them to use equipment that risks stunt men breaking their necks. One can acknowledge that this is anachronistic but should also acknowledge why this is not a mistake, but an intentional necessity.

@phaedrearden3412 3 жыл бұрын

The whole time he was going on about the stirrups I was waiting for him to say "...but we can forgive this because of the safety factor--the production insurance requires stirrups for everyone but trained stunt players." Nope. Apparently he has no idea, but I guess he's a historian, not a student of the movie industry. Still, you'd think if WE know that...

@fabulous_finn7810 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is rather sad that such a problem gets in the way. I understand it, but people were able to do this process of horse riding for years, which makes me think it wouldn't be too much if a stretch to have the actors learn such a method.

@WeboKonAroz 3 жыл бұрын

@@fabulous_finn7810 It would cost more time and money to train the actors. And for a series, that's going to be much tougher to accomplish. Especially over something that most people who aren't historians are going to catch.

@Delgen1951 3 жыл бұрын

@@fabulous_finn7810 When the lord of the rings was being made the producers had a world wide search for men who could ride bear back, for just such resions.

@lawrencebautista1 3 жыл бұрын

The stir ups were probably a safety measure for the actors. That was also a noted inaccuracy in the 2000 film 'Gladiator,' but were installed for safety reasons as well.

@jairoukagiri2488 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm not sure many cavalry stunt men necessarily know how to ride without them, it seems like an aspect of training, same with lacking saddle. Maybe some do but insurance companies are picky like that, safety wise.

@TheTariqibnziyad 2 жыл бұрын

In Alexander the Great movie they didn't have stirrups, credit to the riders

@Giorno. 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTariqibnziyad Alexander (2004) was the most historically accurate movie about antiquity ever made

@TheTariqibnziyad 2 жыл бұрын

@@Giorno. yup, loved how they delved into his pshyci too, amazing movie

@BetheLightCS 2 жыл бұрын

Right? It's no wonder that many nobles and emperors throughout history died by falling off their horses. Without stirrups I can imagine it would be much less safe getting on and off the horse.

@markus9998 3 жыл бұрын

They actually wanted to not use stirrups, however it was impossible to get insurance without them. Thats should be really considered.

@TrueFork 3 жыл бұрын

At least in most shots they tried to not make the stirrups obvious

@gregmattson2238 3 жыл бұрын

yeah I would have retouched with CGI..

@slopcrusher3482 3 жыл бұрын

Greg Mattson that also takes a lot of money. Would you rather have the Romans wearing different types of armour, or not see stirrups?

@gregmattson2238 3 жыл бұрын

@@slopcrusher3482 it actually doesn't cost that much now, most film companies shoot digital now, and you aren't adding something to the film, just subtracting. A full frame of CGI costs in general 5,000 to 20,000 per minute, I'd assume that just a small part of the film would be a lot less per minute. And how many minutes in the show have stirrups in them?

@itshunni8346 3 жыл бұрын

@@gregmattson2238 "Just Subtracting". it is hard to remove something from a movie without people immediately noticing and going "Hey what the hell is that". This is not just taking something out. you have to ensure you only remove the stirrup, you have to fix the lighting around the rider's feet, you have to make sure everything tracks properly, you have to fix a lot of stuff. this all had to be done by a team of individuals that are normally specialized. you cant just pay a guy 50 bucks per hour for a couple days, these guys make an average of 80 grand a year each, they aren't cheap. in the end they decided it wasn't worth the costs.

@shan9usfc 3 жыл бұрын

Legionnaire Metatron: I don't want to go back to the forest. No. Germanicus: Titus, get the cross...

@windowsxp9120 3 жыл бұрын

Vulpes, get the cross

@patwest1815 3 жыл бұрын

@Mexican Rocks for Trump 2020 It's always worked better as a torture device than a religious Icon.

@crackshack2 3 жыл бұрын

Crucifixtion time.

@patwest1815 3 жыл бұрын

@Mexican Rocks for Trump 2020 Really I haven't seen him around. Last I heard they nailed him to one 1987 years ago.

@patwest1815 3 жыл бұрын

@Mexican Rocks for Trump 2020 We're both a little off-topic but there is no one behind me. The metaphysical/supernatural world doesn't exist.

@thorstenziglasch22 3 жыл бұрын

The face mask of Arminius is actually a replica of a mask found during the excarvation. It's known that there was a shiny layer on the mask, maby even made of silver, but it might have decayed over the years or was torn of he mask, because it appeared to be valuable. The film crew might have forgotten this information from the archeologists

@trueromancat7978 2 жыл бұрын

Worth to ay, it was found in the town of Kalkriese and can be seen in the Kalkriese Museum.

@TheYoutubeUser69 Жыл бұрын

Throwback to me 10yrs ago thinking Roman statues were all white 😂

@kevinkelly5780 Жыл бұрын

I doubt they ever knew that or talked to an archaeologist

@simonphoenix3789 9 ай бұрын

I personally find the unpolished look pretty cool on that mask.

@SanctusPaulus1962 8 ай бұрын

@@simonphoenix3789 That's probably why they left it unpolished. It looks better on film

@fanrik9583 3 жыл бұрын

It's funny how a tv-show goes to so great lengths to be, say 95%, historically accurate - and then just intentionally really fuck up the remaining 5% (like cutting through armor). I cannot grasp why they would do that.

@defaultytuser 3 жыл бұрын

Fanrik I think they fall to the temptation of using such devices to deliver clear messages. Like in action movies, when people get shot and die instantly, or pass out by a single punch. The message is "he's dead". Similarly , in medieval themed battles the most realistic way would be to have the soldiers fight HEMA style and die form infected wounds several days later but a) doesn't "look cool" for the (uneducated) audience b) takes to long to deliver the message: "he is dead". Soooo: swords cut through metal plate because is what people are used to :'(

@rapidvetD 3 жыл бұрын

First 5 episodes i only saw armored people getting sliced in the most vulnerable parts and no armor piercing just yet

@jamie_d0g978 3 жыл бұрын

@@rapidvetD Even in the final battle most of the detailed kills are cutting throats or stabbing under the arms. People like to complain

@rapidvetD 3 жыл бұрын

@@jamie_d0g978 someone said its harder to do thrusts than cuts when doing stunts and with the cgi thing i think its way less work for the tech dudes plus its saves more budget idk. in the show i saw less of those armor cutting swords than any other shows i've watched so far

@Caderynwolf 3 жыл бұрын

@@rapidvetD ultimately it does come down to budget, and time, I would add "sex sells" but that technically falls under budget (marketing and potential profit).

@brxnv_ 3 жыл бұрын

The funniest criticism i've heard from this series is that it doesn't uses actual Latin and ancient germanic languages like this is a major improvement over British Romans and you expected more?

@piotrpiotrowski4681 3 жыл бұрын

It is a case of failled expectations. It was advertised as the most accurate historical TV show ever and these details are a valid point of criticism. Also, I honestly do not like members of Germanic tribes speaking modern German, probably because I can actually understand German. That turns it into a weird gimmick; why make the characters speak a modern language if we are going for historical accuracy? I would rather they spoke English then, otherwise it just looks silly. As for the Latin, it does sound funny, but at least it is a more exotic language, despite the weird pronunciation, so it is not such an issue.

@gilbertotoledo1421 3 жыл бұрын

@@piotrpiotrowski4681 I cannot say about them using modern German. But considering that Roman soldiers came from all over the empire, I would imagine that they would all have their own funny accents when speaking Latin so that may not be too far off from reality, just as there are so many different accents of English today.

@stc3145 3 жыл бұрын

do we even know what language the Germanics spoke back then? Is it as well documented as Latin?

@angela_merkeI 3 жыл бұрын

@@piotrpiotrowski4681 Why shouldn't they speak German? It's a German production. There are tons of English movies with people speaking English and subtitled foreigners.

@colbunkmust 3 жыл бұрын

@@stc3145 It is believe among historians that "American" accents more closely represent pre-19th century British accents than modern British accents.

@Lion_Hamza 3 жыл бұрын

The face mask Arminius is wearing, was actually found and is a museum artifact. I think this is the reason it was shown.

@clothar23 3 жыл бұрын

Still doesn't change the fact it should have been polished bright enough to see your face in. Roman soldiers were trained to take great pride in the appearance of their war gear.

@tenarmurk 3 жыл бұрын

The mask is cool and it was found at the battle but his helmet is a bit embellished like i dont think Romans had skulls on their helmets

@Lion_Hamza 3 жыл бұрын

@@clothar23 Yea you are right. But this artifact was shown because it was found at the actual battle field.

@WaKaSaWaKaSa 3 жыл бұрын

Historians to this day do not know why this helmet was there, too.

@proudcanadian5713 3 жыл бұрын

@@tenarmurk Actually NOT that unusual. Legio V Alaudae were called the Meadowlarks and had their helmets decorated with Blue Meadowlarks on the sides. Incidentally, their tunics and shields were also blue instead of the Roman red.

@douglascox9996 3 жыл бұрын

I had heard that the Romans had kept the German subjects in their territory before the rebellion “iron-starved” by taxation and confiscation, since iron implements are easily converted to sharp, pointy things. When the Germans began their night raids against Varus’s column, they were often armed with short oaken cudgels split from younger trees, thereby forming triangular-sections that could concentrate a blow against a Roman helmet or lorica armor sections into deep dents. That’s often more effectively damaging to flesh and bone than a puncture or a slash, since the iron stays dented, compressing the wound. Romans rarely fought at night, being used to resting then behind their palisaded and moated encampments. By continuing the increasingly panicked marches at night, the Romans were vulnerable to sudden rushes from the flanks by black-painted warriors with clubs and light shields into and through the marchers. Gradually, the Germans were able to arm themselves with left-behind Roman arms to be ready for the final set piece ambush battle where the remnant was trapped at the barricade at the lakeside.

@monad5140 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciated that, even though the Latin wasn't 100% accurate, it managed to convey the conversational and casual sound fo Latin. So often the church style of stiff rigid Latin is what people associate with it. I liked that touch.

@folx2733 3 жыл бұрын

Church latin isn't classical latin, people 2000 years ago didn't speak like the Pope or whatever

@shavedata5436 3 жыл бұрын

My personal pet peeve is that some of the characters pronounced Varus as "Vawus" when it should be more like "Warus"

@carinajauregui9383 2 жыл бұрын

A mí me sonó muy italiano el acento.

@mikatu 2 жыл бұрын

There is liturgic latin and vulgar latin. Completelly different languages. While in church the language didn't change, the vulgar changed as much as today we have different languages very different, all of them steaming from latin.

@Error_404_Account_Deleted Жыл бұрын

Agree. Nothing ruins Latin like Catholicism. 👍🏻

@budahbaba7856 3 жыл бұрын

Any English only speakers watching Barbarians, i strongly suggest you run it in the original German and use captions. The optional English dub hurts the dramatic effect.

@danielc9967 3 жыл бұрын

Now you tell me? I feel cheated now

@budahbaba7856 3 жыл бұрын

@@danielc9967 always glad to be of service ;)

@andrewkelly6828 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't even see a dub option. Just started playing and had subtitles.

@andrew_mb 3 жыл бұрын

Subtitles are the only way to go. Dubs are blasphemy.

@guycross493 3 жыл бұрын

@@andrew_mb Amen

@petrdv.6185 3 жыл бұрын

*Best* scene: Germans before the battle: "We can't win, we're going home" That chick: "We're gonna win, I cut my face so I must know" Germans: "K, sounds legit, we're staying"

@calvin5541 3 жыл бұрын

IKR that made me cringe so hard

@reudensplasher1659 3 жыл бұрын

@@calvin5541 why did that make you cringe?

@lewistaylor2858 3 жыл бұрын

@@reudensplasher1659 because it is stupid?

@reudensplasher1659 3 жыл бұрын

@@lewistaylor2858 but how? It's their religion and they believe that she can see the future

@oguzhangorgun6918 3 жыл бұрын

@@lewistaylor2858 It actually made sense since people back then was superstitious as heck.

@raddirector99 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing looking back this far can ever be 100% accurate, how could it be, but the effort must be recognized. Well done in my opinion.

@HorFell 3 жыл бұрын

Alright so Germanicus' campaigns when? Also I'm still holding out for the hope someone one day does Ancient Roman James Bond series; Setorius.

@seand.g423 3 жыл бұрын

*Ancient Roman _Connery_ Bond.

@naevia9010 3 жыл бұрын

The battle of Teutoburg forest was in 9 CE, and Germanicus found the remains of the legions who died in that battle in 15 CE, so Germanicus went to Germania 5-6 years later.

@realtalk6195 3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see Roman North Africa.....and no, not another Biblical movie about Jesus in Roman Palestine (where they spoke Greek as lingua franca, not Latin mind you).

@tombombadilofficial 3 жыл бұрын

*My main gripe about the series is the actual events leading to the battle itself. The series presented the ambush like it happened for a couple of hours instead of a methodical 3 day massacre for the Germanic tribes. Wouldve been awesome if the ambush was presented as a 3 day struggle for survival for the doomed Romans to the point that youd feel sympathetic towards them as the series presented the Romans as the antagonists.*

@ahronsumar5075 3 жыл бұрын

in my opinion the roman soldiers seemed to be portrayed as inferior fighters which for the most part kind of irked me,yes you see a few kills for the romans ,but it would have been atlot more instense in reality i would say.

@sephiroaone-of-nine101 3 жыл бұрын

budget, you want more pay them more, shit is not free

@mephisto5856 3 жыл бұрын

They could have stretch the episodes up to 10 if they really made the battle long but yeah it seems they don't have enough budget to portray more episodes.

@mephisto5856 3 жыл бұрын

@@ahronsumar5075 well thats normal since the winning side has always plot armor. its like comparing it with star wars and its storm troopers. Maybe in Barbarians season 2 when Germanicus delivers a Roman Blitzkrieg into Germania we would see Legionarii besting almost all of Germanic warriors

@MasonBryant 3 жыл бұрын

@@sephiroaone-of-nine101 Muh budget. You're boring.

@lordkent8143 3 жыл бұрын

Love how they cast an Italian as Varus. So used to seeing Romans being played by British actors 😅.

@francescocantoni5665 3 жыл бұрын

Casting British actors as Romans (especially when they are the villains) is an American productions' custom. For example, in French movie "Druids", the character of Julius Caesar is played by Klaus Maria Brandauer who is an Austrian!

@batsnack3796 3 жыл бұрын

@Sjwaria Law Your joke wasn't really funny.

@robroux5059 3 жыл бұрын

If this was the BBC, they would have cast IDRIS ELBA as Varus...Claiming historical accuracy to the time.

@maurovaz6081 3 жыл бұрын

@Sjwaria Law well the empire recruited from North Africa and Middle East why would all the soldiers look southern Europeans

@TheOldBlackShuckyDog 3 жыл бұрын

Yeh well, what you gonna do chap 😂

@ivanstepanovic1327 3 жыл бұрын

15:03 She stabbed the guy into the neck. Just finished watching the last episode, so I'm pretty sure of it. So, she didn't pierce the armor, she bypassed it.

@magnusthered4973 3 жыл бұрын

But in the final battle of the show they cut through it like butter

@shavedata5436 3 жыл бұрын

She did stab that dude in the neck, but I'd more so take issue with Arminius's kill around 28:15 of episode 6

@marvinamann4969 3 жыл бұрын

-reading stirrups: you can't get insurance for your actors without stirrups. So they don't really have a choice if they wanted to use them or not

@SithLord2066 3 жыл бұрын

It's only in a couple of scenes, they could've easily CGI'ed the stirrups out. Or change the camera angle so the feet aren't visible.

@ep6600 3 жыл бұрын

@@SithLord2066 That's easy to say. VFX work is tightly scheduled and no one has the time to work on an irrelevant detail that 99% of the audience won't even notice.

@miserenobis4603 3 жыл бұрын

When the german dude who spat on the standard didnt get crucified i was dissapointed. He wouldnt have gotten off so easy. It also feels like one of these modern series who treats the audience like children. “These guya are assholes. Hate them. This guys are the good guys, relate to them”. This is why the HBO Rome is the best. All characters have vile character flaws and disgusting traits yet you love them.

@scratchy996 3 жыл бұрын

You didn't pay attention then, every character had good and bad traits, it's just shown in a more subtle way. Also the series was too short to fully grow each character.

@LookHereMars 3 жыл бұрын

Man I miss Rome I think it's due time I rewatch the 2 series box set absolutely fantastic show.

@janwojtyna3392 3 жыл бұрын

What do you expect German miniseries about how Romans got whooped by Germanic tribes.

@wpjohn91 3 жыл бұрын

I agree misere nobis, it was in some ways over simplified. But as pointed out they had a limited time frame. The barbarian were very basic even though we know tribes bordering roman land wernt savages so to say. Also the main female lead caused all the issues. She is never held acountable that she assaulted the roman standard and caused the whole chain of events. Any way it was enjoyable but there was a definite narrative

@j.m.w.5064 3 жыл бұрын

The battle seemd rather small and insignificent. I'm not complaining about a lack of stand-ins or CGI. More on how everybody behaved. It felt more like a minor first victory that got their spirits up. I happened and was over. I really prefer films like The Eagle or Legion - not accurate! BUT so much more effective when it comes to depicting the dread and otherworldliness the invaders are facing. Personally, I had hoped for a journey like Heart Of Darkness / Apocalypse Now. This was a bland and unemotional clusterfuck.

@MacRoss1792 3 жыл бұрын

"armor cut like butter..." as Shadversity said : the lightsaber syndrome

@TreiberSeptim 3 жыл бұрын

@Gustavo Octavio deCampos I think you’d enjoy „the king“ then. Loved their portrayal of medieval hand to hand combat

@fjack1588 3 жыл бұрын

What kills me about light sabers is no one let's the light go past the three feet. Must be knightly fetish but you would thing Darth Vader would have taken the pin our an let the saber rip to it's max cutting and piercing and smoking 'em distance of 100 meters. Yeah, even peon me took the pin out of my shotgun to allow two extra shots!

@KraNisOG 3 жыл бұрын

@@fjack1588 It has a set length, and losses potency the longer it gets. Vader's saber allows him to freely choose between 1 length and a another longer length. So he already has a longer saber.

@geraq0 3 жыл бұрын

@Gustavo Octavio deCampos The King is a horrible movie, dialogue and acting is terrible and it is ridden of modern progressive sensibilities. Its battle might be more accurate but it is incredibly boring to watch. I'd take Henry V (1989) rendition of the battle of Agincourt any day over that trash.

@KorporalNoobs 3 жыл бұрын

Your description doesn't quitecapture the energy in the word *LIGHTSABAAAH!*

@300leothelion 3 жыл бұрын

This chap knows his stuff. Pronunciation of the words perfectly. You can tell his family are Italian. 👍🏻🇬🇧

@leandrog2785 3 жыл бұрын

Lol he's Italian himself

@300leothelion 3 жыл бұрын

@@leandrog2785 I didn’t know mate. I thought by his accent he was from London. But his ancestry’s Italian.

@leandrog2785 3 жыл бұрын

@@300leothelion IIRC he lived in London. There's a video where he talks at length about his language skills and where he lived (which includes Japan), but i watched it a long time ago and i don't even remember the title or subject.

@javiUSC 2 жыл бұрын

He's Germanic. If you want to see real Romans, look up terenetius neo or the Pompeii portrait of Achilles. Or the Pompeii portrait of Mars as a reference

@mattmark94 2 жыл бұрын

@300leothelion he is not english, he's 100% italian

@halbaker1075 3 жыл бұрын

I am sorry, but I love the intro "I'm not going back to that forest. I'm not." I wish more historical fiction had more characters with common sense. :-D

@FirstOfTheMagi 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure a great many of the legionnaires had that common sense but the threat of crucifixion really has a way of motivating you lol

@bubbasbigblast8563 3 жыл бұрын

Funny thing about Arminius is that no one seems to know what the heck he was trying to do: his family disowned him because they wanted to be Roman clients, the Germans killed him because he seemed over ambitious, and most Germans traded with Rome, so being involved with him would always be a problem no matter what.

@blakexu4943 3 жыл бұрын

He's quite the benedict arnold. Very complicated motivations.

@couchpotatoe91 3 жыл бұрын

When in doubt, assume he wanted to have power. In this case this might be the control over his and neighbouring tribes with the knowledge of Roman strategy and tactics. It might be a bit of a stretch to paint him as a "patriot" since, while the Germanic tribes had a sense of identity, it wasn't on such a national level like the Romans, but more tribal. There was a lot of infighting, the fact they mostly raided Romans seems to be owed to the fact that there was simply better loot to be had compared to fighting other Germanic tribes.

@ottersirotten4290 3 жыл бұрын

At least he archieved a form of Immortality

@321AlterSchwede 3 жыл бұрын

Most warriors of the Germanic tribes of nort and middle germany followed him as military leader, so his acceptance was bigger than you describe here. He was no outlaw in the cherusci society but a nobleman with good relations to rome.

@eutenhomuitosnomes5485 3 жыл бұрын

@@couchpotatoe91 The Romans sort of projected their national identity on other groups (They saw the tribes as all being part of the ''Germanic'' people). So maybe Arminius was more ''patriotic'' than other Germans; because he had the ''Rome vs Germans'' idea in his head due to his upbringing.

@inaces1 3 жыл бұрын

They should do a season covering the campaigns of Germanicus

@kev3d 3 жыл бұрын

I want to see Scipio and Hannibal.

@camb5282 3 жыл бұрын

La vendetta

@DesertHunter24 3 жыл бұрын

@@sfjlfkjsdlfkjds 'Das Nibelungenlied' is not set in any particular time period. In fact it is scattered all over the time scale. On top of that it is estimated to have been written around 1200 AD from folk memory. These folk memories were at this point from 5 to 12 centuries old. Obviously they would get severely distorted into folk tales/legends. As to the connection 'Siegfried - Arminius': This and other links to historicals events have been made by historians and other literary professionals. Laugh as much as you like but that won't illegitimize their interpretations of this story. The idea is that the dragon represents the roman army forced to march through the forest while stretched out into a long line. Originally even in Europe dragons were imagined as serpents (without limbs). Hard to prove but as good an interpretation as any other. Btw, the belief that Siegfried is copied from Sigurd is nonsensical. It was the other way around. Scandinavians could not be the progenitors of a story largely based on early Frankish history...

@wiryx1 3 жыл бұрын

@@kev3d Scipio and Hannibal wouldn't be called "Barbarians"

@TorianTammas 3 жыл бұрын

Season 2 - Roman come back and massacre every Germanic tribe who tries to opose them.

@henryv.3272 3 жыл бұрын

From a production perspective, my wife and I thought they needed a bigger budget. Meaning the tribes should have been bigger to give us the audience a hint as to why the Romans went through the hassle of putting someone loyal to Rome in power, and why there was any attempt at peace. As is, the tribes looked like a handful of people and the Roman army should have just cut them down. It is obvious the scope was kept to a min due to cost, which is ok. But for additional seasons, it would be great if these different factions had some more scale.

@MrFredscrap 3 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling stirrups on horses are for occupational health and safety (ie: insurance) reasons......

@CptFugu 3 жыл бұрын

That's a gem... "Spoiler alert for those who didn't go to school". It should probably rate as the best burn of the decade.

@thomaslee2792 3 жыл бұрын

Though one could argue that there is someone watching this video who hasn't learnt it yet in school lol.

@disfavored2654 3 жыл бұрын

Because a school in Argentina is gonna teach about a battle in Germany. sure bro

@feketeputty 3 жыл бұрын

I have been a sport extra in the ending battle. Was a fun job. Even tho 10 hours in that lorica is a Woden damned misery sometimes...

@sinisterminister6478 3 жыл бұрын

I am so envious. It must have been a blast.

@henner645 3 жыл бұрын

how cool! can you tell me where it was filmed? Thanks!

@Moritz606 3 жыл бұрын

@@henner645 The series was supposedly filmed in Budapest (probably near it)

@faramund9865 3 жыл бұрын

You can say god damned you know. God is a Germanic word and has nothing to do with that desert crap. It’s a god damned shame that people associate native things with xtians and then try to circumvent them. But, very cool!

@Matt-cz6ti 3 жыл бұрын

That must have been soaking

@alexwyman8380 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, super shocked at how good this show was. The costuming was just awesome. Sure there's was a few details wrong, but in comparison to 99.9% of all TV about Rome... I was blown away when I turned the first episode on and saw actual Roman armor

@lukeperry9006 3 жыл бұрын

imagine being the guy who is tasked with capturing those exotic animals for the games lol better get paid well

@generalripper7528 3 жыл бұрын

I thought about that aswell. I reckon they used slaves for that or like "professionals" who were paid well?

@mikeymy1603 3 жыл бұрын

The Giraffes you sold me wouldn't mate

@realtalk6195 3 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't be much different than how it would be done in modern times (in the absence of tranquilizers). You really only need sticks and nets, and isolate an animal to capture it. You're not doing it with your bare hands.

@helygg8892 3 жыл бұрын

Got any lions? Nah fresh out but I got a pissed off boar and thirty lemurs.

@jetjackal2870 3 жыл бұрын

Modern day plebs: "Roman's wore mohawk helmets." Grand Master Metatron: "CREST HORIZONTAL"

@Pachiku93 3 жыл бұрын

For what I've read online (so take it with a pinch of salt) "mohawk" type of crests where used my rank and file legionaries but as decoration and on parades, not really on the battlefield. The big mistake people usually make is putting mohawk crests on centurions. Centurions used exclusively the horizontal crest to make them easier to locate on the battlefield and as a symbol of their rank

@SimonAshworthWood 3 жыл бұрын

Pfft! Such things are unimportant to the effect of a TV show. The effect comes from the story. Does it show what happened or does it make people get a false understanding of the politics and economics of the era? Barbarians shows the main points I have learnt about the era, so I approve.

@mrkiky 3 жыл бұрын

Aren't they both horizontal? I mean the mohawk type doesn't strike me particularly vertical. Distinction is rather between inline or perpendicular to the line of sight.

@lars573 3 жыл бұрын

Thing is they did, about 250 years later.

@gnbilios 3 жыл бұрын

its not mohawk, its a halo. it can be vertical of horizontal.

@jthompson2379 3 жыл бұрын

"Should I say 'spoiler alert'?? I mean, this is history..." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You're the best, The Metatron!!

@nachoconazodiablo1234 3 жыл бұрын

Super! You should check out the Chinese series; the longest day in Chang'an, a Chinese series set in the Tang dynasty, here the swords don't go trough armor, which is great to see and it's said that the armor, weapons and architecture are the most historically accurate in all of the Chinese series and movies.

@proudcanadian5713 3 жыл бұрын

There is also evidence that the initial area for the ambush was prepared months in advance with some rudimentary fortifications for the Germanians built up high on both sides along the path through the forest. Also, according to Tacitus, the battle took place over 3 to 4 days like you've mentioned but it was in late autumn and during all of those days it was raining which contributed to the ease for the Germans to defeat the Romans. (Light infantry versus heavy infantry being able to move easier in wet conditions.) The Romans also had difficulty with the shield covers getting sodden from several days and even had difficulty seeing the enemy from rain dripping onto their faces from areas of their helmets.

@WarDogMadness 3 жыл бұрын

8:32 you cant get actor insurance for film without them they are safety concern.

@Moritz606 3 жыл бұрын

but you can edit them out, shouldn't be that hard. Or film from angles where you dont see them.

@WarDogMadness 3 жыл бұрын

@@Moritz606 lazy productions edits cost more production money again

@shmekelfreckles8157 3 жыл бұрын

@@Moritz606 yes, you can edit them out. But it’s weeks of methodical hard work.

@undertakernumberone1 3 жыл бұрын

@@shmekelfreckles8157 and the moment one is not Properly edited out, you're the joke of the internet.

@undertakernumberone1 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, and Just editing it out would cause the riders to sit there, with their legs still in stir up positions, just without stir ups... leading to "They edited out the stir ups blabla" etc.

@mickmcgoldrick5453 3 жыл бұрын

Ok that opening bit about teutoburg forest actually made me audibly laugh 😂

@kanarien-ei1817 3 жыл бұрын

Best opening ever... 🤣

@johnnytrigger5512 3 жыл бұрын

Mike Mcgoldrick surely???

@MikeBenko 3 жыл бұрын

When the trees start speaking German.

@johnnytrigger5512 3 жыл бұрын

@@MikeBenko Mein Wald

@DIEKDSE 3 жыл бұрын

@@MikeBenko GUTEN TAG

@cycloidcyclone4309 2 жыл бұрын

Polished metal means reflections which you want to avoid in a large production, because removing them is a hassle same thing with the stirrups.

@luka832 3 жыл бұрын

Please someone remind me, on who's side did Xena fight in this battle?

@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking 2 жыл бұрын

All I heard her say was: "AEI-AEI-AEI-AEI-LI-LI-LI!"

@scratchy996 3 жыл бұрын

I was expecting them to show the slow march to ruin of the legions, the final battle happened to quick. I feel they missed the essence of the Teutoburg forest battles. But they did set up what comes next for Arminius.

@Moritz606 3 жыл бұрын

The end battle felt like they ran out of money tbh! Still enjoyed the series for the costumes and locations, the fighting was sadly a fantasy cliché

@sephiroaone-of-nine101 3 жыл бұрын

@@Moritz606 well its what it comes down shit ain't free

@YoreHistory 3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY...it was several skirmishes and two battles over the course of almost 4 days...it was a series you would have thought they could portray that part better :(

@Xirpzy 3 жыл бұрын

@@Moritz606 thing is, movies and tv series are rarely ever shot in the order it is viewed. They shoot all the scenes taking place in the same location at one time. So it could very well be that this battle was the very first thing they filmed. Could also be the last, I dont know.

@ryan7864 3 жыл бұрын

It was compressed and I don't know why.

@danielrogge3085 3 жыл бұрын

Though I understand what you mean, since thought has crossed my mind aswell, Iwould not say the Romans were depicted as "evil". Metellus was clearly arranged as an antagonist, as was Varus, but both had moments of "humanity". I explained the difference in portrayal of the "Germanics" and the Romans by two things: One, the PoV is clearly on the Germanic side, and for a compelling story of this sort you need antagonists. Two, the Romans were an occupying force. These are not civilians, these are not even soldiers in their (semi-)permanent forts, these are the soldiers of an expanding empire on campaign, sent to subjugate a sometimes friendly, sometimes unruly and sometimes outright hostile populace. They're sent to collect tribute und establish a more direct form of rule, and I do not doubt - given Varus' ultimate destiny - that they weren't always the most careful and understanding of rulers.

@seand.g423 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, Arminius kinda fucked up explaining the Tribes' views on execution, but... yeah... pommel-bashing a kid? _not_ very "hearts and minds" on that one...

@sama847 3 жыл бұрын

Romaboos be like

@weloveTM123 3 жыл бұрын

I liked Metellus. He was pretty bad ass and yes, he did have a moment of humanity. Too bad, Arminius betrayed him.

@admontblanc Жыл бұрын

@@seand.g423 Napoleon's marshalls in Iberia committed the same mistakes 1800 years later so idiotic commanders will always exist.

@archangelrsr1326 3 жыл бұрын

I was really impressed when you explained the special and expensive armor of the "eagle barer"! Thanks a lot for this video. E prima che mi dimentico: grazie per la raccomandazione di evropaantiqva!

@robinledesma2683 3 жыл бұрын

In relation to your video 2 years ago about "Black Washing History." I'm glad they didn't do it here. And for anyone who will call me a racist, I'm a Malayan race Filipino. I would be equally offended if there were Filipinos in Ancient Rome.

@dilonruns4797 3 жыл бұрын

I know but what if German people get offended

@BlessDD89 3 жыл бұрын

Shut up you idiot

@theinquisitor8112 3 жыл бұрын

@@dilonruns4797 They wouldn’t. There weren’t black people in that part of Europe that long ago. Black people coming to Europe in large, noticeable numbers beyond the Mediterranean coastlines is a very recent thing.

@GeorgeP1066 3 жыл бұрын

The Roman Empire literally included North Africa and half the Middle East. It also traded with places as far away as China and. India. Of course there were people of colour living in the Roman Empire. Sub-Sahran Africans might have been uncommon but there were plenty of mixed race and brown skinned North Africans and Egyptians in the Roman Empire. A burial site in Southwark, London had 22 people in it and four of them appear to be of African ancestry. 4 out of 22. That's a minority sure, and it was probably a much smaller minority outside of urban areas, but it's still a significant number.

@GeorgeP1066 3 жыл бұрын

You might also want to look up Romans like Lusius Quietus, a Roman general and governor of Judea who was originally a Berber prince from modern day Morocco.

@kalskirata9643 3 жыл бұрын

The stirrups were probably used for security/insurance reasons, as to not need to train the actors in riding without stirrups

3 жыл бұрын

They should have added a disclaimer at the start: "Any and all historical inaccuracies are entirely the fault of the actors' union"

@Bigrago1 3 жыл бұрын

I liked the first 5 episodes but I found the last disappointing, with all the build up I was hoping for a more accurate portrayal of the battle. But still overall I liked the show and judging by how it ended there might be a season 2.

@feuerderveranderung6056 3 жыл бұрын

I too was disappointed, but I think this a moment where they were constraint by the flow of the narrative, limited time and possibly budget.

@wiryx1 3 жыл бұрын

The battle itself could have taken 2-3 episodes if they went for true display of 3 days of battle

@mangalores-x_x 3 жыл бұрын

I feel Netflix curtailed them. They could have easily used 2-3 more episodes to build the set up more, why Arminius decides to betray Varus, why do the Germans turn openly rebellious. Another episode to cover the battle more. A lot of this show feels rushed due to the episode count.

@Will-SFC06 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I take issue with the scene where everyone just forgets to use shields or formations. Film-makers have a thing for chaotic, pell-mell battle-scenes!

@wiryx1 3 жыл бұрын

@@Will-SFC06 The funniest thing about it is that both sides just charge against each other like dumbf*cks, while there is the monologue of Arminius in the background saying that keeping the ranks in check is so important. Btw, that monologue was the worst part of the entire show.

@charlesmartel8112 3 жыл бұрын

I once saw a show about Viking weapons and armor. To demonstrate a Viking sword's cutting ability , they hung two pig cacasses - one bare and one clad in chain mail. The bare carcass was cut almost in half - the mailed one received a foot-long gash three inches deep - a fatal wound. My point is mail could indeed be defeated by a 'clean hit' - I watched it being done - mail was mainly to protect against deflected blows. Did the gladius or 'Latenne' swords cut as well ? Likely not. As far as a lorica segmenta - a much tougher beast to crack , no doubts there.

@bruenor82 3 жыл бұрын

On Armour and why they never work in shows/movies: Safety. Actors are not trained stunt actors. They are also very costly. It is far easier to strike the armour than to fit in choreography that shows the fighters properly bypassing armour.

@franciscovieiradebem2700 3 жыл бұрын

When I heard the first line I Latin I thought "I need a metatron video about it". Thank you man, you are the best

@Warren_Peace 3 жыл бұрын

I really wish they would show the Roman retaliations for the Battle of Teutoburg Forest.... Because this gave the illusion, just like Crassus' defeat at Carrhae, that the Roman's were "helpless" and just took this defeat on the chin.....

@sephiroaone-of-nine101 3 жыл бұрын

Ok give them a couple million or more and boom, what don't have the money for something so big..ahh well we can all dream

@alexdobma4694 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, Arminius and many of the Cherusci warlords were killed in a battle a few years later by the Romans.

@armorking7258 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexdobma4694 Wasn't Arminius backstabed after countless defeats by fearfull/jealous warlords?

@alexdobma4694 3 жыл бұрын

@@armorking7258 My bad, yeah. He did die as a result of losing a battle, just not directly.

@desmondd1984 3 жыл бұрын

Could definitely be a season 2. Netflix hasn't officially ordered it yet but it's a very popular show.

@neckripperoni 3 жыл бұрын

Me: * reading the comments, not paying attention to the video * Metatron: *speaks italian* Me: *MMH, ORA DI ISCRIVERSI AD EVROPA ANTIQVA!* P. S. Complimenti davvero! Non sapevo che fossi italiano! Lodevole pronuncia inglese, un punto di riferimento per il mio studio! Continua così!

@GrasshopperKelly 2 жыл бұрын

I can confirm, from a horse rider friend of mine who regularly works on film with his and other horses, and also from asking his Dad, who's company supplies and works with literally any animal the any production needs; The stirrups were required for two reasons. Most of the rider's had learned to ride with them, and you'll even spot some saddles that were soft fabric, not the typical hardened seat typical of Equites, and looking for riders comfortable without stirrups wasn't considered important, for reason two. Second, was insurance... Insurance wanted the riders using stirrups. If someone fell off their hose, broke their arm, insurance didn't want to cover them. :/

@darthplagueis13 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Several roman historians have apparently scolded Varus for commiting suicide in their chronicles, calling it cowardice and claiming that he did so to avoid having to answer for his failure and the loss of his legions to the roman people and the emperor (and ignoring the fact that he likely wouldn't have survived the battle either way and even if he did, he probably wouldn't have made it back to rome in one piece).

@tenarmurk 3 жыл бұрын

But every roman commander who failed hard either died in battle or committed suicide with maybe varro as an exemption but cannae is a whole other honeypot

@TheodoreMinick 3 жыл бұрын

Romans were not gentle on failure.

@alexmag342 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheodoreMinick nobody is gentle on failure, it always is unnacepatble

@arminius301 3 жыл бұрын

Varus made it back to Rome, in six bags of body parts, delivered by the few legionnaires the Germans allowed to live, with a message for the emperor "Try that veni, vidi, vici shit again and this is what happens, Schweinehunde!"

@gandaruvu 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexmag342 not it's not always. The ancient greeks were more forgiving with failures, who saw it more as good people who just happened to stumble into human errors. This is why we have many tragic heroes in greek myths

@RoyMcLellan 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sitting here wondering if that's the same helmet that Matt Easton is about to destroy with his pilum

@beardedbjorn5520 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha so was I

@robwalker4452 3 жыл бұрын

Looks exactly the same.

@TheodoreMinick 3 жыл бұрын

Probably because he got it from the same guys. From what I understood, the other helmet was shipped directly to Matt. This one, I think, is the one that he went and got.

@Azoundo 3 жыл бұрын

You lost me at “c t r l C and c t r l Vvvvvvvv” I’ve never heard it pronounced that way. Amazing

@byzantinetales 3 жыл бұрын

Whenever I see such videos on my feed, I just press subscribe! Great video!!

@kewaso_5313 3 жыл бұрын

I don't even speak Italian but I understood that one sentence perfectly, speaking any romance language really fuckin helps I guess

@robroux5059 3 жыл бұрын

You realize that nearly every European language was influenced by Latin You don't need to be a Romance speaker to understand what the Romans were saying. Heck even the Nahautl speakers have Latin(Roman Catholic Church) origin words in their vocab today. Altough if you are an Iberian Romance speaker, you could understand some sentences in 'Al Hayba' (2017 Drama) .

@kewaso_5313 3 жыл бұрын

@@robroux5059 I know, I speak Spanish and german as my mother tongues but Im also fairly fluent in portuguese, french and guaraní (and english, duh). Speaking any language makes it easier for you to understand whats going on on any other similar language, like italian or dutch for example. Im right now looking to learn arabic or turkish but I cant really decide between the two, turkish is probably more useful but arabic is going to be easier due to many similarties between spanish and arabic vocab.

@lordoflek 3 жыл бұрын

ita

@maurovaz6081 3 жыл бұрын

@@robroux5059 that is a massive exaggeration, just because some can do it doesn't mean all can. The vast majority of Spanish speakers can't even understand portuguese and you expect that a Russian will understand latin

@kewaso_5313 3 жыл бұрын

@@garciagar64 its not difficult really, incredibly simple gramatic and structure like english. The only difficult part is pronouncing it

@WRanarchy 3 жыл бұрын

Respect to all the extras and reenactors that were part of the project,you deserved far more screen time.

@a55tech 3 жыл бұрын

LPT: c-t-r-l is pronounced "control"

@Makkis 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, but c-t-r-l is much funnier

@Justanotherconsumer 3 жыл бұрын

Homer pronounces it “catarl.” Homer is never wrong!

@wellendoxairfix 3 жыл бұрын

I live in the area of the Teutoburger Wald. The monument of Arminius (Hermannsdenkmal) is right around the corner. Feels strange to see a show that plays around the time all these events unfolded, and living right there where it all happened.

@vatossureno 3 жыл бұрын

Is it a Big forest?

@scholarlycat8180 3 жыл бұрын

As long as the Romans being portrayed are at least attempting to speak Latin instead of using British English, this show already wins me over.

@RomanHistoryFan476AD 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just glad their wearing decent armour for once and not leather straps or coats like they did in that Rome rise and fall of an Empire show on the history channel years back.

@seanbrazell6147 3 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about?! ALL Roman's had British accents! TV told me so. Seriously though, be glad they didn't use an American accent. One name: Channing Tatum: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abZ7gdl61MnRaas.html

@inaces1 3 жыл бұрын

Last time I was so early the Roman empire was still around

@manuelkluge383 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you. A little sidenote yo might like is the football team of Bielefeld is called Arminia Bielefeld, one of our slogans is 'nobody conquers the Teutoburg Forest'. There is also a Monument in the forrest in honour of Arminius called 'Hermanns Denkmal'. Check it out. All the best to you, in the words of Bielefeld : stur, hartnäckig, kämpferisch.

@oscargustaverejlander. 3 жыл бұрын

Well polished armour is more prone to reflections containing crew and film equipment.......

@gabrielinostroza4989 3 жыл бұрын

That Centurion's helmet look like his mom bought it for him, like a couple sizes too large for when he grows up.

@shorewall 3 жыл бұрын

:D Conehead!

@ryan7864 3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the equipment in this show was the best I've ever seen on film. Was it perfect no.

@michaelpettersson4919 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe she did... 😉

@richarddimeck4578 3 жыл бұрын

He'll grow into it 😂😂

@RedmarKerkhof 3 жыл бұрын

2:19 Missed the perfect oppertunity to say "copy pasta" and you just let it slip like that. Incredibilis.

@lukasrohrs5476 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting! Thanks! Greetings from South Africa 🇿🇦

@rhythmharmony2923 3 жыл бұрын

What an honor! The series is originally in German. This time, English in the synchronised version. I can watch it in my mother tongue and it will feel authentic. I was immeadiately surprised by the deep and realistic sound of the father’s voice at the beginning. His first two sentences were mumbled and I didn’t understand them the first time. The third sentence: “Mach die Haare auf!” (Open your hair!) had a different colour to it. It was warm, deep and touching. I thought, it would be then a good idea to hear the original voices, as it already seems to be a well made series, as soundtrack and voices pierce straight through you and I would profit from it even more in English... And then I saw it: Deutsch [Original]. 😊

@blackdragon5274 3 жыл бұрын

"spoiler alert for those who didn't go to school" 😂😂

@lucasraphaelpianegonda2058 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah.. That's probably overestimating the quality of the history classes around the world..

@mr.negativenancy5751 3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasraphaelpianegonda2058 No kidding

@MaggotDiggo1 3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasraphaelpianegonda2058 It's probably eurocentric to assume that Battle of the Teutoburg Forest would be covered in history classes around the world.

@MeRu_Artifex 3 жыл бұрын

@@MaggotDiggo1 I doubt 95% of European schools would have covered that anyway

@yvesgomes 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I was so burned by that. And I ended up catching some actual spoilers for the plot. He did warn, though, so it was my fault. XD

@hateoverlove1 3 жыл бұрын

I like the look of the Romans that is depicted in the show.

@joshuahugill7809 3 жыл бұрын

For every minute in your Latin video I’ll send a dollar on Patreon. I know it’s nothing crazy but I love your content and I really enjoyed this show so I’m showing my support in the strange way that I do. Thank you for the awesome videos!

@cheddarcheese5476 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all these content Metatron. I discovered my fascination for history through this channel.

@fatthorstumtum6593 3 жыл бұрын

08:30 it's a insurance thing. They need to use them.

@andrewcheng2113 3 жыл бұрын

They could probably remove it with cgi, no?

@zigedelic3909 3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewcheng2113 Would probably be really pricey to get it to look smooth. The other CGI in the show was pretty glaring (especially that spear throw), so I can understand why they wouldn't bother

@sauromatae9728 3 жыл бұрын

they could hide it somehow. or even use the magical technique called "avoiding focus on stirrups".

@nero1798 3 жыл бұрын

When the trees start speaking German

@icitrom 3 жыл бұрын

Love your videos. Just a nitpick: in ecclesiastical English, C-T-R-L is pronounced "control" as in control-C or control-V.

@Alejojojo6 3 жыл бұрын

Most of the Germanic populations who fighted the Romans actually migrated to the Roman Empire and settled there. So their descendants live today in modern Italy, Spain, Portugal, France, the Benelux and the UK (Franks, Anglo-Saxons, Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Suebi etc). The Germans of Germany are those who moved later, did not fight the romans or were left behind by the bulk of their fellas

@Alejojojo6 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ulfberth The Franks left germany and settled in The Benelux but also many went to France and gave it its name (Franks ---》 France). Many minor germanic tribes settled in France (gaul), such as the Burgundians(where the name for the region known as Burgundy comes from) etc... Also many tribes like the Goths who settled in Spain (visigoths/westgoths) and Italy (ostrogoths/eastgoths) alongside the Heruli and many others. All the Suebi left Germania and settled in Northwestern Spain and Northern portugal where they created a kingdom (the name Swabia comes from the region they had inhabited before leaving for the roman empire). The Lombards also settled in large numbers in northen italy giving the region its name. The Anglo saxons left northern germany and southern denmark and migrated to the UK, etc. The germans are the descendants of those who remained begin, such as half of the Saxons who moved south and eastwards. Tribes who barely fought the Romans, who stayed in the interiors of Germania, not the ones the Romans confronted. Those tribes actually crossed the Rhine into the Empire where they settled massively. The Alamanni tribe moved south to present day switzerland and Baden wuttemberg areas that were under the Roman empire before the alamanni migration occured into the region and where germans were not even present in Roman times. So the modern descendants of this tribes live actually in the former nations that were part of the Empire not in Germany proper.

@thenapalmbrothershq5585 3 жыл бұрын

Surprising, at this point Nyet-flix is synonymous with revisionist history so to see a positive review based on historical accuracy is actually kind of exiting.

@ryanforbes8192 3 жыл бұрын

@MonsieurHiroshima they were cruel though Rome wasn’t known for civil rights

@stc3145 3 жыл бұрын

MonsieurHiroshima Except they had thousands of slaves, they didint care much for common people and they were ruthless during their military campaigns. Julius Caesar killed a million people and burned and looted thousands of villages in Gaul.

@koffieslikkersenior 3 жыл бұрын

Mister Albanian that quote is from the end of the HRE. It was definitely holy, roman and an empire earlier on

@userofthetube2701 3 жыл бұрын

@MonsieurHiroshima While I admire Roman achievements as much as anyone there can be no doubt that they would have been absolutely hated by many of the people they came into contact with. Roman brutality in dealing with tribes is well documented and was even by the norms of society back then sometimes considered to be excessive. Of course that is only part of the story and often relationships were more peaceful. It is recorded that some barbarians were actually very proud to become Roman citizens. Yet it is entirely believable that from the perspective of other tribesmen the Romans were indeed evil.

@Intranetusa 3 жыл бұрын

@MonsieurHiroshima Only educated and/or skilled slaves were treated with care because they were expensive (but they still had little to no rights and slaves of either sex could be raped). Uneducated & unskilled manual labor slaves were not treated with care and were disposable - that's why many were sent to work in mines which had a high injury and fatality rate.

@randomdude2026 3 жыл бұрын

To the point that the romans are portrayed as evil. Yeah it is told from the germanic side and they really hated Varus for ignoring germanic laws and forcing them to pay high tributes.

@thessop9439 3 жыл бұрын

i love romans. But boy did I loved the take on the romans of this show. Pretty true and evil.

@misterrex684 3 жыл бұрын

Theres good and bad people on both sides, thats how it should be. Rome is anyways portrayed as the superb civilization most of the time, while slaves and tributes contribuition is often ignored.

@jackogrady3118 3 жыл бұрын

I mean, every society at one point or another did slavery back in ancient times, and if it was a universal practice then you cannot really use it to make judgements between different societies.

@gerhardswihla1099 3 жыл бұрын

The problem to me seems that the Romans had a army to maintain and the taxation of a subsistence farming society as the german tribes has nearly nothing to spend.

@ottersirotten4290 3 жыл бұрын

@@misterrex684 its hard to argue that Rome wasnt the superb civilization really

@PaddyANS 3 жыл бұрын

The production worked with Kaptorga visual history, they did the historical work for costumes and weapons with a little compromising for film-tropes ^^

@TheNumber1jedi 3 жыл бұрын

You sir are a wizard. Liked, subscribed and notifications. And it criminal that KZfaq gives the revenue to Netflix. So sorry

@Bluebelle51 3 жыл бұрын

It's been awhile since I've seen the show, but if I remember right, they didn't even mention the weather. There was a horrific storm going on during the first and possibly second day of fighting. The Germans were accustomed to this sort of weather and fought accordingly, the romans, not being used to it were not only terrified by it, but also being more heavily armored, had more difficulty in maneuvering as well. I don't remember who said it now, but someone said that the weather changed history

@YuuSHiiiN 3 жыл бұрын

They did include the rain after Arminius was giving a monologue about needing help from the gods, mostly for dramatic effect.

@kenken8765 3 жыл бұрын

I saw the trailer. Some of the Germans even had the "Suebian Knot" hair like the ones found in bog bodies.

@magnajota4341 3 жыл бұрын

But the suebians were still in the north

@sauromatae9728 3 жыл бұрын

@@magnajota4341 didn't Julius Ceasar fought with them 50 years earlier?

@magnajota4341 3 жыл бұрын

@@sauromatae9728 I know that he knew about them. But I don't think he fought them. As there lived quite a bit afar from the Gaul region. They didn't settle in today's svabia until the 5th century

@sauromatae9728 3 жыл бұрын

@@magnajota4341 what are you talking about? Ceasar surely fought Suebi led by Ariovistus. then he crossed Rhine to pursue them.

@magnajota4341 3 жыл бұрын

@@sauromatae9728 Yeah, you are right, it is quite a time ago that I read De Bello Gallico. However, it was only a expansion force. The bulk of Suebi still lived in todays Bohemia. They also didn't ally themselves to Arminius.

@palmaiattila3288 3 жыл бұрын

Very correct observation and remark. The stirrup in its present form has been known since the 2nd century AD, probably manufactured and distributed by the Xiongnu Huns in Central and East Asia (first the wooden version, later the iron one). But the Hephthalites (White Huns) when settled in Europe (Athila rex Hunnorum exercitum) have not yet used it. All we know is that the Avars introduced it into the Carpathian Basin since their first invasion wave in the 6th century AD. The stirrup arrived in Western Europe only after the troops of Carlus Magnus subjugated the Avar Empire.

@INKASANT 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you man I wanted to watch this show but the inaccuracies that you have pointed out, especially about the bad Romans and the noble barbarians are hard pill to swallow. I saved a lot of time avoiding this, thanks again.

@pauleugenio5914 3 жыл бұрын

Metatron: The helmet’s aren’t shiny enough✨. 😂 I appreciate your precision. You really hone in on the subtlety. It’s too mad you can’t monetize this episode for copyright reasons. You totally deserve it.

@TrueFork 3 жыл бұрын

Movie industry today tends to take the "weathering" of props and costumes so far that they often look excavated.

@henner645 3 жыл бұрын

They knew that the stir ups was wrong. They had to do the stir ups out of legal and work safety reasons. Sounds stupid but it is true.

@soldierofmisfortune6284 3 жыл бұрын

I know it's a bit late but I would love for you to do a short video about your thoughts and comments on Caesar's Legion from Fallout: New Vegas. I don't know if you're familiar but they are an in-game faction based on the Roman Empire. Very awesome stuff. Love your videos, been a fan for a while. Vale.

@Kokorisu 3 жыл бұрын

This is the first video of yours I watch, but I love your attitude! Informative, well researched and also supportive of other channels that have helped you learn, and positive in your tone, acknowledging the choices made for some fiction aspects and conceding points where historical accuracy wasn't perfect, and overall being fair in not being tremendously nitpicky. Definitely subscribing! Beautiful video.

@danternas 3 жыл бұрын

The Roman fort looked like they just set up tents in a clearing and put down spikes and called it a day. To my knowledge Roman were very keen on making effective fortifications. Otherwise good show and in particular the equipment and clothing was mostly spot on.

@BasildeRayen 3 жыл бұрын

At last! I had to scroll down here to find your comment. I was worried nobody noticed it. Fort of two plus Legions? without serious engineering work? at the very extremity of the woods? absurd! CGI could fix it at no time (but hey, how could they steal the Eagle then?) -en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudis_(stake) is suitable for temporary castra gr.pinterest.com/pin/511862313873813898/visual-search/ for longer periods www.slideshare.net/GrahamAPhone/roman-camps

@theshadowling1 3 жыл бұрын

@@BasildeRayen Literally the first thing I thought when I saw the camp. "Why are there trees up to the walls?"!

@williamthekiller7219 3 жыл бұрын

To make it easy for the protagonist to penetrate a Roman fort,

@strikeforce1500 3 жыл бұрын

"How did USSR win on their side in WW 2?" Me: "well, you take a soldier, Ctrl+C, then Ctrl+VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV...

@martinan22 3 жыл бұрын

It is a complicated issue. Military History Visualized have made several videos about this. The Red Army became very competent, about one year into the war. The Red Army had plenty of fuel, the Germans did not. The Red Army was supported by the world markets and the resources of the global empire of USA and Britain.

@Vitalis94 3 жыл бұрын

Memes really fuck up the mainstream view of history, for sure.

@The-Real-JD 3 жыл бұрын

"We have more men than they have bullets comrades" quote by the memes

@darthplagueis13 3 жыл бұрын

@@martinan22 Notably, the german head of state was also an idiot. Oh yeah, why wouldn't you attack another super power you made a non-aggression treaty with when you are already at least evenly matched against your current opponents? What could possibly go wrong?

@minderbart1 3 жыл бұрын

@@darthplagueis13 pretty much every german general were for the war. the plans they drew up was made by the okw. the generals wanted operation citadel while hitler did not. this meme about hitler being the idiot and the generals being overruled is nonsense.

@1987MartinT 3 жыл бұрын

Do you think they'll make a second season focusing on the campaigns of Tiberius and Germanicus? I think they should. Most people forget about or don't know what happened after the battle of the Teutoburg Forest.

@RomanumChristum Жыл бұрын

October 21st!

@TheSoda21 Жыл бұрын

Well, they did...

@RomanumChristum Жыл бұрын

@@TheSoda21 And it was shit.

@chiodh 3 жыл бұрын

Kudos to this vid, Metatron!...this the way to fight against fake info...for ourselves and our future generations!

@narzoggash 3 жыл бұрын

For all of you, who can speak German: the historic advisors have a KZfaq Channel and made an q&a about the good and the Bad stuff in the series and the process. Their Channel is kaptorga. Edit: they are a team of a historian and an archaeologist.

@ferdinandvonschill4512 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info

@Tarik360 3 жыл бұрын

"these helmets wouldn't be thrown away" Kinda like how some modern soldiers seem to carry what look like Cold-war era rifles at a glance.

@anggi8699 3 жыл бұрын

The same way how US Marine in early part of WW2 were still equiped with WW1 weapons like the 1903 springfield rifle and and water cooled Browning machine gun.

@user-ef4gf7rr9r 3 жыл бұрын

@@anggi8699 Not to mention the B-52

@bernardo0330 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks for the Video, Metatron. Looking forward to the next ones, and Barbaren S2

@Beery1962 3 жыл бұрын

Part of the reason they didn't need stirrups was that the horses at that time were much much smaller than they are today - about the size of Welsh Ponies - very small. So you could climb on one very easily.