Bargue Lesson 18 - Shadow Shapes

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The Da Vinci Initiative

7 жыл бұрын

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@martinlakeuk
@martinlakeuk Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate these videos, very informative. I’m a very impatient budding artist, and this process makes me slow down to get more accuracy.
@haybuhay1994
@haybuhay1994 4 жыл бұрын
pausing the video just to comment: this has a very mesmerizing ASMR feel to it. Like Portrait of a Lady on Fire. All you would need would be fire crackling in the background. I appreciate it very much.
@thedavinciinitiative5045
@thedavinciinitiative5045 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marktwain6635
@marktwain6635 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are really nice and helpful. You teach extremely well. It is very generous of you to put these on youtube for free. I pay for my art class and they do not teach it there. I am at lesson 18 and watched previous lessons at least twice. I have a question about shadow shapes. I will try to ask as clearly as possible. When you block in shadow shapes, are you blocking in only the dark parts of the shadow or does the block also include the end of the dark part where shadow is lighter? It is hard to ask this question without pointing to the plate. I hope I made sense.
@thedavinciinitiative5045
@thedavinciinitiative5045 4 жыл бұрын
You want to block in the shadow shape where the dark area looks even slightly darker than the other parts of the shadow. This is called a "bedbug" line or a "core shadow" or a "terminator line". When the value starts to lighten, that is actually midtone and is part of the light, not the shadow. I am releasing another course soon that really covers these concepts.
@jackiemiami6107
@jackiemiami6107 6 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic lesson!
@darkhorsemusicco.5156
@darkhorsemusicco.5156 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these videos! Are your limits of the shadow shapes where the shadow becomes dark and unified? And then blending in rendering? Are you specifically looking for that unified dark shadow section for the placement of your lines?
@wilmakerstholt699
@wilmakerstholt699 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much i hope i will be as patiënt as you are you are great
@thedavinciinitiative5045
@thedavinciinitiative5045 3 жыл бұрын
What a compliment, thank you.
@Dale_Blackburn
@Dale_Blackburn 4 жыл бұрын
What is the size of this plate? A5? What size should i print the plates at? Thanks much
@thedavinciinitiative5045
@thedavinciinitiative5045 4 жыл бұрын
I printed this plate at 11"x17"
@megindog6484
@megindog6484 7 жыл бұрын
After spending all that time measuring and drawing the arm's out line it comes down to eyeballing the shadow in place. I am very new to drawing only been trying to understand how to draw for 3 years. What makes a drawing "Art" or a photo rendation? I understand Bargue training logic. Copying an Artist work learn how shade is rendered etc then moving on to Cast drawing followed by life drawing. The Bargue technique does not fit with current art school training in the UK. Which apparently is all experimenting and not developing drawing skills. My art teacher in an adult education centre concept of sculpture is bending plastic water pipe and stacking them together. I do not believe she can draw. But she has a degree in Art!!
@Maximissesable
@Maximissesable 7 жыл бұрын
It's the same with art schools in Australia. They only concentrate on contemporary techniques. It's the reason I dropped out. :(
@thedavinciinitiative5045
@thedavinciinitiative5045 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Megin, it's possible to better place the shadow correctly because all of the work for proportion and shape of the bigger pictures has already been done. I Interpreting visual information requires academic rigor and deep understanding of concepts that have been handed down for hundreds of years from artist to artist. The eye can perceive brighter brights and darker darks than charcoal can actually achieve, and it is up to an artist to interpret this information to maintain the same relationships between light and dark that is seen with the human eye. A camera makes choices mechanically. A human sees with emotion and makes different decisions for compressing visual information based on what is most important to that artist. When training in an atelier, all the students can work from the same model yet everyone in the room can say who made which drawing based solely on the artistic choices the artist made. It takes training to understand these subtle choices, much like it takes training in music to hear when a note is flat. Because this training fell out of favor during the last century, most people (including art professors at many universities) have not had access to it or even know it exists. What is interesting is that this training has become the counter-cultural movement in art education. Universities are beginning to re-incorporate visual literacy training, or atelier training, into their curricula and it is just a matter of time before a tipping point is reached. Congratulations on being a counter-cultural figure in the art world until that time :)
@PHeMoX
@PHeMoX 7 жыл бұрын
@The Da Vinci Initiative: Yes, that is definitely what has been boggling my mind actually. Art schools in my country do not seem to offer training in the (classical) fundamentals of drawing, painting and so on at all, but rather promote a pointless 'be creative and be modern' thing. Indeed the whole bending plastic water bottles and calling it art. No offence to contemporary art or fans thereof of course, but this is often the type of 'art' that does not require a degree. I'm sure creative thinking is something that has to be developed as well, but how the heck can that be done when someone doesn't master the fundamentals of art yet? It's wildly frustrating and in fact the reason why I try to learn on my own, instead of going to art school.
@sheilaorr5596
@sheilaorr5596 6 жыл бұрын
I believe drawing, painting, composition, etc., is important to learn the basic techniques--"Art" is doing something creative with what you've learned
@IbrahimYounes
@IbrahimYounes 4 жыл бұрын
12:30, sorry but at this stage, are your lines still dark because to give us clear feedback? or it must be darker at this point?
@thedavinciinitiative5045
@thedavinciinitiative5045 4 жыл бұрын
I am drawing darker than I normally would in order for the viewer to see in these videos. You always want to draw as lightly as possible when blocking in a drawing.
@logos513
@logos513 4 жыл бұрын
Is this plate a bit advanced for a complete beginner? Can someone point me to very beginner plates I can download and start practicing with? cheers! Great vids btw!
@thedavinciinitiative5045
@thedavinciinitiative5045 4 жыл бұрын
We have a lesson plan that breaks down an easier plate you can download for free here: www.davinciinitiative.org/bargue-plate.html
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