You have to use the correct technique when sharpening on whetstones. It is not just a back and forth motion but you also have to follow the contour of the blade on the stone. Stropping is good to touch up the blade but sharpening a dull blade requires more than that.

I wouldn't feel that way honestly. You can get the leather treated so it becomes some what more resistant to the weathering. Also, handles on the Bark River knives come in all sorts of materials. Some of which are completely water proof.,

I fully agree. If you don't want to babysit your knife the Fallkniven is the better choice. To my eye the Bark River's are more pleasing to the eye but that won't help in the wet and damp climate. It's all about performance. Both perform good but Fallkniven is better when it comes to being care free most of all in wet conditions.

@@griff7749 I don't recall a video where DBK actually tested any knife in wet or cold conditions. They are usually in their backyard. They also seem to spend a lot of time on editing and special effects and it's nice to watch. I'm just not sure if you can depend on the judgment of people that won't leave their backyard?

@@griff7749 Sure they have trees in their backyard (parents back yard) but no jungle, no desert, no arctic, no taiga, etc. The term 'Bush' originates from Australia and means Wilderness. Not woodland. They are not outside when it rains or when it's very cold. They don't have to carry the stuff in their backpacks. I have nothing against reviewing knives from a desktop, backyard, etc. I do watch them and even make them. I'm not that good at filming. DBK is sponsored. They talk a lot about the steels. The truth is that for somebody who knows what he/she is doing the steel is not that important. Everything they do with these super steels I can do with a 10 euro Hultafors GK if the knives are the same size of course. So to call DBK the authority of knives is complete bs.

@@griff7749 Reading your reaction you did get the point and we agree that DBK is not an authority on knives.

+ogenmatic It's hard to beat Bark River when it comes to handle ergonomics.

+likota123 Bark River has also achieved Internet marketing genius with the voluminous handle choices. Customers spend lots of time looking at dozens & dozens of images of the same model knife rather than the "if you've seen one F1, you've seen them all". We're able to personalize our selections without the wait & extreme price of most custom knives.

+ogenmatic True. The Gunny Hunter in this video is relatively unadorned with its black micarta handles. My Bravo 1 on the other hand is a good example of Bark River's customization options: Bravo 1 - LT version - rampless - in CPM3V with spalted curly birch handles.

My top choice for a survival knife would be a SurviveKnife GSO 5.1 or a Fallkniven S1. I still use the Gunny Hunter and the F1 but not for survival and I never had any issues with the glue on the handles.

Survive Knife GSO in CPM 3V or M390? Which is better in your opinion?

3V is better for hard use, M390 is better if corrosion is an issue.

On compact knives with 10 cm blade which is best in your opinion?

That is hard to say. Maybe the F1 because I have it for a long time and still use it frequently. The Gunny Hunter is very good as well but only after you make some modifications like described in one of my videos. Recently I use the Manly Patriot a lot. It is a very good little knife and very affordable.

Thanks for the comment. I have XL sized hands and the F1 fits just fine but I don't know how it would work with extremely large hands. But if the Mora Companion works fits your hands then the F1 should as well. Alternatively, you could go with the S1 - the F1's bigger brother. After 7 or 8 years the F1 is still my go-to knife in wet&cold weather. The grip is very secure and the sheath despite being ugly turned out to be very resilient. Some people complain that Fallkniven knives are too expensive, especially the Pro line. I can't comment on that because I bought mine a long time ago. The convex-ground laminated VG10 works fine and is easy to maintain. Laminated CoS in the F1 Pro seems to be even better but it is a lot more expensive. If you can get a good deal on the F1, I would say go for it.

It can be used for bushcraft but I would recommend to reprofile the blade first. The Gunny is more an allround camp knife thean a true bushcraft knife. For actual bushcraft I would prefer a dedicated bushcraft knife like the Bark River (Ultralite) Bushcrafter or similar knives.

I use Wilson Ultra Wrap Tennis Overgrip on my Gunny Hunter as you can see here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMt_aZiDmam4ZnU.html It helps proving a much better grip.

likota123 .... just ordered an F1 Pro. Will see if the slight increase in handle length and height helps.

When i bought it, it was only available in A2 and 3V. Stainless steels were introduced later.

The H1 is a bit different than the F1 so I can only comment based on the stats and my experiences with the F1 and the KK, which I also have. After all these years I still think the F1 is a good choice for light chopping and splitting of wood. However, I agree with you that the H1 is not an ideal hunting knife. The blade is very thick (even thicker than on the F1) and VG10 does not react well when it hits on bone (even when laminated with softer steel). I also have a BR knife in A2 and I must say that I really like that steel because it is very forgiving, easy to maintain and performs well. In my experience there is only one major downside and that is corrosion resistance or lack thereof. It definitely rusts more than CPM3V but I found out that a light acid wash helps a bit.

@@likota123 Although I find zytel a perfect material for an outdoor knife, I made my own knife with cocobolo wood after purchasing the H1 blade from Fallkniven. For my hunting (boar skinning only) the length of the blade, its thickness and its shape theoretically gave me the perfect knife. But in practice the soul of the knife its steel was for crying. The BR with A2 steel can scrape a 150kg boar without blunting its edge. Such a boar has its coat full of mud and 2-5 fingers of hard subcutaneous fat. The minus of A2 steel is as you wrote the torque on the rust.

+Jeremy Madsen I have 4 Bark River and 2 Fallkniven knives for now so apparently I like knives from both companies. Ofc there are fanboys and haters in both camps but I try to base my assessment on my own practical experience. Both have their pros and cons :)

likota123 Indeed, and well laid out in your video. Fantastic upload.

+Jeremy Madsen Thanks.

Bark River fanboy, eh? Well.... ME TOO!! 😂

They are both all around knives. The only thing that makes the gunny hunter is the fact that it has a slightly dropped point. That doesn't in any way negatively affect it as a survival knife.

Ich habe inzwischen eine Kydex Scheide für das Gunny Hunter. Mir ist schon klar, dass es viele verschiedene Variante des Gunny gibt. Die Wetterempfindlichkeit richtet sich vor allem auf die Griffe. Die sind bei allen Bark River Messern sehr glatt und bei Nässe sehr rutschig. Das habe ich sehr schmerzhaft auf eigener Haut zu spüren bekommen. Dafür habe ich aber auch eine Lösung gefunden: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/os2BaMWF39PSgoE.html

Das F1 ist ein sehr gutes Allrounder Messer. Die Klinge ist sehr vielseitig. Der Griff ist sicher, aber auf Dauer nicht besonders ergonomisch (zumindest nicht im Vergleich zu anderen Messern wi z.B. BR Bravo 1 Lt oder Bradford Guardian 3). Als Survivalmesser finde ich es etwas zu kurz. Das S1 odr A1 sind da die bessere Wahl. Ich nutze das F1 als Winter-Outdoormesser, da Griff, Klinge und Scheide auch extremen Bedingungen standhalten.

1. "These two knives should never be compared in the first place." Why not? They are both convex ground fixed blade knives and very similar in all dimensions. 2. "I know for some reason people love fallkniven but they are grossly over priced!" I agree but I bought the F1 many years ago when the price was more reasonable. 3. "You get a soft mid range steel..." I don't agree here. If anything the VG10 core is too hard for this knife. Spyderco is notorious for soft VG10. Maybe they should swap their respective batches of VG10. 4. "...and cheap rubber with a crappy sheath" Handles and sheath look and feel cheap but they are very functional in my experience. After all these years the F1 is still my go-to knife in the winter season. 5. "...while for the same price you can get a high end steel with burl handles and leather sheath." At least here in Europe that is not true. Such knives cost at least 100 € more. Btw, I am talking about the regular F1 and not the ridiculosly overpriced F1 Pro.

likota123 Everything you asked is stated in my comment...

I did not ask anything except a rhetorical question in my pont no.1 but I just replied to your comment.

Whoa there! Looks like you’ve never used a Fallkniven OR a Barkie! Both knives are amazing, but I wouldn’t consider one worse than the other

@@seanb6986 atb Sean shut these guys up.They should buy the Mora Garberg knife job done.