I prefer quality over quantity. This is the perfect length of an orchestral masterpiece.

@Steven Moore Hi Steven, thanks for the comment ! Agree, his music is very powerful ! There is a book by Elliot Antokoletz on Bartok, but don't know how outdated it is : )

Yes. The beginning blew me away, I heard the los angeles philharmonic version. It is pure horror. Early 20th century Europe was a nightmarish space of time for humanity.

So terrible, people tried to stop the Marxists, what a terrible effort!

No wonder it gave me Indiana Jones vibes

You mean nazism right? They are different.

@@berserker8716”ackshually….” Shut up.

Shut up mate

It's true it is surprisingly loud. I've watched this three times as an audience member and that part is so unbearably loud and cringy it always makes me shudder

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@@sneddypie nah x 2

Check out ligeti's Kammerkonzert 4 example

Not wrong

​​​@@sneddypie right, unlike Stravinsky, Bartók was transparent about his use of various folk themes, and incorporated them smoothly and in his own unique way, unlike Stravinsky who copied various Russian and Ukrainian songs without ever tipping his hat to the sources. Every awesome tune in The Rite was copied wholesale from elsewhere. Stravinsky was clearly a genius, but no Bartók.

and they do it so perfectly if you ask me

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+Timothy Brittain Not actually a Ballet, it's supposed to be a Pantomime.

That's a good analogy!

I'd love an explanation of this analogy. ​@@vk92007

North Carolina- the land of crackheads

@@americana3555 Is your State the terrible country ？

@@shin-i-chikozima no it is not the worst but states like Texas are better.

@@americana3555 Thank-you Someday please visit Japan in spring or autumn . Japan is a member of G 7 like USA , but Japan is full of surprises and emotions that surpass what you can imagine growing up in Western and American culture . In Japan there are many things that you can not experience or see or hear in the West and USA . Japan is entirely different from China , Korea and other asian countries . Japan has a aesthetics peculiar to Japan from 1200years ago , I wish you a great and glory life . Good luck ！

@@shin-i-chikozima I would love to come visit, recently I have been learning more about Ancient Japanese history.

Lmao yes :D

Real! My fav part!

But it was the first.

Agreed. They kept it together but he sorta sabotaged the orchestra.

Solti - former student of Bartok - conducted it even faster.

Hans-Detlev v. Kirchbach Yes, you're right, of course. I've just compared the two performances again- I think it must be that because the Phil play the passage with a bit less bite and attack, it just sounds softer and blurred. Of course Solti conducted EVERYTHING that fast!

The part where the mandarin dies is in the full version. This concert suite version cuts after the mandarin chases the girl. This is the chase scene, which has to be played fast nevertheless

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@doinkdoink49 Only in the full ballet, not the suite

They played the immolation scene from Wagner Götterdammerung later in the programme

king krule

this is the suite version. The full version is much better imo

+Jarrett Grempel fine observation, but she didn't do it that bad. She just failed one note. If you are a professor, try to be more human when you want to get the best from someone. This was a great interpretation. (sorry for my bad English, I'm argentinian). Saludos.

+Malbrán María it's actually the prinicipal oboist (male) that screwed up, not the english horn player. in other recordings (I recommend Boulez conducting the Chicago Symphony Orchestra), the oboe and english horn are in unison. I just noted that not only did the oboist in this performance screw up the rhythm, but didn't play the right notes either. Just something that is very rare to occur in such a professional setting!

Fooled me! @Gustav Mahler

Dude its very small mistake ...As you well know the Style of This piece is Atonal and Avant Garde for that reason even Its sounded Natural =D Im sure Audience didnt understand anything =DD

I feel that they're way too soft in general. This piece was made for trombones to shine

A very interesting comment, although I find I can tear myself away from it (unlike you), and I'm only too glad to do so. You've made me think about the fact that there is art and music that is generally acclaimed, and therefore I should respect, but which I cannot come to like, however much I might try. (Just as you may know perfectly admirable people you just don't like) For me, Bartok tops the list. I find his music technically brilliant but ultimately cold and unengaging. And often just plain ugly. My loss, I guess!

I completely disagree with both posts. In this instance, Bartok is writing for a post WW1 bustling city full of crime, struggle and in this case, prostitution. So to expect anything other than a heavy, dissonant grimy sound would have made this piece silly. Yes, it's technically brilliant but I'm completely engaged in this piece. I've performed it as well and found it really fun to play too. When you understand the time period and the events in which the composer is writing, the music tends to make more sense. Not all music requires beauty or soaring melodies. That's poor story telling.

Of course -- music for a crime movie.

i advise you to hear his romanian folk dances. it's far from being cold and unengaging :)

... And you somehow end up loving it...

What and why?

Because only men can play expressively?

Really?

Bro's probably just mad he got rejected from an orchestra

@@jansalomin No. This is no sexist discrimination. This music is pure brutality. And the presence of death. Women hate this kind of expressivity. This is not a part of their world. 17:11 , to play this you have to be utterly agressive. Serial killer music.