A special demonstration held at the Brooklyn Observatory for the Bartitsu Club of NYC
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@ricmacphedear14367 жыл бұрын
i have to use a cane just to walk, im an old school pugilist, i have 159 amater bouts under my belt, but learning these can tactics opened a new avenue for the mechanics i learned in boxing, which were proper, now my cane is a weapon....thank you for the time in giving me a different look in using my cane
@dalegribble603 жыл бұрын
Bartitsu got the coolest gi's.....
@EskrimaTiger7 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, the first time a fighter combined strikes with grappling, wrestling and a few kicks, that fighter was using a mixed martial art. All that term means, is combining techniques from various form of combat. So, if you want to get technical, you could make the claim that the first recorded mixed martial art was practiced in ancient Egypt. Inscriptions on the temple walls at Beni Haded ( I'm probably misspelling it) depicts warriors engaging in a combatives style that include strikes, grapples and stick fighting. That would predate Pankiratian, possibly Kalaripayyitu as well. Tai Chi Chuan and Baquazhang could be considered mixed martial arts, since they combine joint locks, take downs and strikes, and I believe they were developed in the 18th century. And they were inspired by other older Chinese styles that also combined so-called "hard " and 'soft" techniques. Okinawan te combined closed hand strikes, open hand strikes, kicks, joint locks and throws. Speaking of Okinawan arts, the term Goju Ryu means "hard-soft" school. What about some forms of silat? Muay boran? So, the term could cover many different fighting styles.
@HECTORARTUROA7 жыл бұрын
A mixed martial art is a combination of many arts, even if this arts don't include ground or striking techniques.
@Dragonflyjones676 жыл бұрын
EskrimaTiger Somebody who knows their history! Thank you for taking that claim. Because the first recorded Beni Hasan martial arts is recorded in the pyramids. They call it the Muntu or Montu.
@geoffreyfletcher69765 жыл бұрын
But if such tactics were originally part of battlefield art's curriculum, and not borrowing from another outside source, as far as Greek pankration goes, then it wasn't considered mixed but merely comprehensive. However quite a few ancient arts did wind up borrowing from other systems from time to time.
@6arcsn1sky9 жыл бұрын
The only reason bartitsu is considered one of oldest mixed martiaI art because it was the first style to blend Western (British boxing, savate, French cane fighting, and Swiss wrestling) and Eastern (jujutsu) styles.
@josephlee23169 жыл бұрын
Look up pankration
@6arcsn1sky9 жыл бұрын
@Joseph Lee Last time I read about pankration, it didn't have any Eastern martial arts in its combination.
@BartitsuSociety8 жыл бұрын
+suissecarnifex No, the fact that modern Bartitsu is a revival of the original style is taken for granted as a basic premise of the activity. It's widely publicized and understood; instructors explicitly make that point in interviews, classes, demonstrations etc. There's no fraud involved at all.
@michaelkeha6 жыл бұрын
6arcsn1sky mixed martial arts is just the mixing of various martial arts you bloody weapon it has nothing to do with the origins of the various styles.
@Ed-tc2pg6 жыл бұрын
Nah, it was mostly made up because fans of Sherlock Holmes didn't like that the author killed him off.
@KonElKent6 жыл бұрын
I've started cross-training Bartitsu to keep in shape (I really miss my twenties); if nothing else, I've seen a rebound in my flexibility and reflexes from even a few months ago.
@dancingbear765 жыл бұрын
Not the first mixed martial art. Just established before Jeet Kune Do. Definitely deserves more recognition though.
@thuglincoln76996 жыл бұрын
apparently nobody there knew how to keep quiet while they're filming an interview.
@Lamont240125 жыл бұрын
Jujitsu was also part of this system originally.
@IBurton8610 жыл бұрын
This is such an underrated and incredible martial art! It isn't the first mixed martial art though since the practice spans thousands of years ago on every continent in the world. Either way, Barton-Wright was an important figure and I'm glad his art is being revived.
@johnmatthewcrane44237 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The first MMA was invented in Greece, Pankration.
@AlexanderPews7 жыл бұрын
Yep thought the same +1
@HECTORARTUROA7 жыл бұрын
Pankration was introduced in Olympic Games in 648 b.c., and Wrestling (considered as art) was introduced in 708 b.c. 😞. How could be integrated Wrestling in Pankration if was created after it?.
@Dragonflyjones676 жыл бұрын
No it's not! Those facts are not even valid at all
@b.levering11806 жыл бұрын
if Wrestling is introduced in 708 BC its created before Pankration/648 BC you knob
@Dragonflyjones676 жыл бұрын
ᛒᛆᚱᛏ ᛚᛂᚡᛂᚱᛁᚾᛕ Whatever the hell your name is. Stop getting your facts from Wikipedia!!!!!
@YoutubeIsRetarded6897 жыл бұрын
This martial art has clear an obvious signs of Wing Chun among other eastern martial arts in it.
@OnyxXThePunch3 жыл бұрын
It's based around early Pugilism and Savate
@Th0ughtf0rce3 жыл бұрын
Convergent evolution. What shares the same objective, will develop similar traits.
@sonnygallo56626 жыл бұрын
Remember that Shaolin had multiple chambers each with a specific style or system but I believe that Bartitsu is the first true mixed martial art of the west. Peace and OSU
@michaelkeha6 жыл бұрын
Sonny Gallo if you ignore Pankration and about a dozen other martial styles from the west sure it's the first.o
@sonnygallo56626 жыл бұрын
michaelkeha If you can read you'll see that I corrected myself. Peace and OSU
@michaelkeha6 жыл бұрын
Sonny Gallo you believe it is the first true mixed martial art of the west which is objectively false your point?
@jackjevne13278 жыл бұрын
I don't care what your favorite martial art is facts are facts and greek Pankriation fight was invented in 440 bc. It is a mix of kicking, striking(elbows and knees), and wrestling.....
@ttc.o40072 жыл бұрын
Wish there's one in my area, one school claimed to teach it, but that turned out not to be the case
@ThanksIhateyoutoo7 жыл бұрын
I just wish they had a club here in Oklahoma.
@mullethippo6 жыл бұрын
You could go learn it there and bring it back
@ethanchaney11396 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see some of the old school martial arts and the original attempts at combining martial arts for a better and more sufficient way of fighting. Also how they use defense against people attacking you with sticks and just using basic stuff to defend it not some weird Aikido shit. Personally I think that modern MMA and Jiu Jitsu is the refinement and perfection of techniques of martial arts combined but it’s interesting to see that people already have been trying to do this for awhile.
@NYWAORCANZ11 жыл бұрын
I would imagine it helped alot of sailors or gentlemen walking out of a brothel or card games near the back alleys ways
@stefanschleps8758 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to disappoint any of you but the truth is that there is no first MMA style anywhere in the world. One of the earliest contenders for this title is the gladiatorial boxing styles that arose within the time of the Roman Empire, and before that with the Spartans, and before that with the Minoans. All the way back to the beginning of time. My opinion is that systematic training in the core features of martial arts began no later than with our neo-lithic hunter gatherer ancestors. I am in the process of writing a book to this effect now. My arguments will all be presented for the public at time of publication in about six or seven years. Although we think otherwise, the truth is that there is nothing new under the sun. We flatter ourselves in believing ourselves superior to our ancestors. All the best. Laoshr #60 Ching Yi Kung Fu Association
@deck4448 жыл бұрын
Soooooooo basically Krav Maga for hipsters?
@gloomy55058 жыл бұрын
bwahaha XD maybe lol
@decromcquin2738 жыл бұрын
+deck444 Didn't I just see you on that other video?
@ThanksIhateyoutoo7 жыл бұрын
deck444 * gentlemen *
@hugomoreira68236 жыл бұрын
Guess that bartitsu is older, not?
@sumyunggai89734 жыл бұрын
Except that this was invented in the 1800s, long before the modern concept of hipsters. So, no.
@madjack8218 жыл бұрын
I think I like the ideas behind the system rather than the techniques. If you wanted a better system you could blend bjj, Kali, and some kind of striking art.
@jacquesaebischer91243 жыл бұрын
encore 1 × cela demontre que la fusion entre arts martiux, et sports de combats orientaux et occidentaux produisent de tres bons resultats , ex. Jeet Kune Do , M M A et bien d'autres .Le Bartitsu doit etre le plus ancien
@ratonL6 жыл бұрын
I thought Robert Downey Junior was trained and used Wing Chun in the Sherlock flick. 🤔
@martinbailey62016 жыл бұрын
True
@martialharpistmatthew18376 жыл бұрын
He blended wing chun along with the bartitsu.
@dancingbear765 жыл бұрын
Wing chun is a part of bartitsu
@sonnygallo56626 жыл бұрын
I am sorry I forgot about Greek pankration. Peace and OSU
@sonnygallo56626 жыл бұрын
Obviously the point is your head. Chinese culture is at least as old as Greek culture and I mentioned Pankrace when I corrected myself. Peace and I'm done with the stupidity the first mixed martial arts were done by the original man in Africa/Asia where you guys got your culture and your gods.
@johnleaf47289 жыл бұрын
LOL! 1:14 Dude tried to block a cane strike with his forearm... If they ever train realistically or with contact they will be in for a rude awakening....
@Jaburu7 жыл бұрын
better a broken forearm than a broken head though lol
@bigbigchud6 жыл бұрын
Wolarski better moving your fuckin head than breaking your arm
@marco-uy8ex Жыл бұрын
Robert Down Juniour practised Wing Chun lol.
@brittanystapleton242110 жыл бұрын
Uhhhh 'Vlad Tsepis' is uncomfortably close to the name of the historical figure that Dracula is based upon, Vlad Tepes. Please let that be a society stage name.
@arthurwatts16806 жыл бұрын
Yep, I'd definitely take my cues from whatever Robert Downey Jnr is doing in any given movie. Or passed out stoned on someone's front lawn. Seriously, if all you effing well want to be able to do is fight, find a boxing coach who wont let anyone hit you too hard at the gym and get to it. Then find a rugby forward who is prepared to get drunk and try to take your head off at every opportunity : shouldn't be too hard. Forget about 'style X vs style Y' : serious martial artists are far too busy working/training/sleeping to hang around bars looking to play out some 18th century fantasy Master Wong told you about on YT .....
@mrmel95556 жыл бұрын
Raver is best fighter followed Panama dance..
@enio882410 жыл бұрын
Hipsters fighting? I hope they know what they are doing
@MiniPainterGamerDadD206 жыл бұрын
Enio fighting over the last pair of skinny jeans, or the last small batch IPA at the pub.
@shotokido6789 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but claiming a European bastardization of various arts in the 1890's is the FIRST mixed martial arts system is simply ridiculous. Ninjitsu systems are more than a thousand years old and include striking, joint locks, throws, submissions, and weapons forms, among others.
@MaddalenaMalaspinaG8 жыл бұрын
+Shoto Kido the mixed martial arts system in Europe started in XIV century
@shotokido6788 жыл бұрын
Maddalena G. Which further falsifies the claim being made here. And it's also still long after the development of mixed martial arts outside of Europe.
@BartitsuSociety8 жыл бұрын
+Shoto Kido Bartitsu is the "first MMA" only in the limited sense that it was the first known cross-training system to combine Asian and European styles.
@discipleofkhorne94728 жыл бұрын
Ninjutsu is not a martial art, it's a collective of skills used by the ninja. Ninja would just train in the same martial arts of the samurai, while ninjutsu did not teach direct combat. What ninjutsu did teach was espionage tactics and stuff related to espionage such as how to make explosives or what you should wear in crowds so you don't stand out. This is the first mixed martial art as it is a mix of multiple martial arts from different countries and continents.
@paulaandrea77885 жыл бұрын
#BR
@lovefunbeer6 жыл бұрын
Mixed Martial Arts is a modern term. It's less then 50 years old... Younger then this system. Also mixed martial arts isn't a British term. More fuckery if you ask me. What about Roman fighter that boxed, and wrestled, same thin in Africa, or the rest of the world. Yooo living in a fantasy.
@Worldwidewhat-wb6 жыл бұрын
Africa Egypt India s.e Asia Pacific region islands China Japan those are the order of known fighting arts the word martial arts wouldn't have existed in China as martial refers to mars aka a creco Roman god and as the ancient China didn't follow Roman gods or know of them so the term martial is not part of chines language this word was adopted via trade with the Europeans possible marco polo
@pepefixfix6 жыл бұрын
Ridiculo!!!
@seemykids996 жыл бұрын
This is NOT the first Mixed Martial Art. Pankration existed for hundreds of years before this. Also, its not 1820, get some new clothes.
@mortallious12346 жыл бұрын
Tosspots.
@larissadequeiroz92806 жыл бұрын
R
@Quodge10 жыл бұрын
Is this music an anachronism?
@mortgagefinancing55586 жыл бұрын
lol
@THELONDONCHANNEL6 жыл бұрын
What a load of old bollox
@petopetteri1785 жыл бұрын
MMA was invented 10000 years ago!
@redstar9562 жыл бұрын
Matey totally forgot Japan, where he got a lot of his ideas from. -Itsu is a dead giveaway. Good whitewashing there presenter
@rezwansalehin89226 жыл бұрын
Lol try Muay Thai.
@RD-fv7nn6 жыл бұрын
Rezwan Salehin the whole point of having multiple martial arts is because some don't like others its not about the style its about how the fighters use the style
@oasis72565 жыл бұрын
@@RD-fv7nn that's my boy
@jimmykrimmer55065 жыл бұрын
please stop talking::
@jimmykrimmer55065 жыл бұрын
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@hairybanana966812 күн бұрын
Let’s see it in a real fight. This is larping and likely wouldn’t stand up to stress