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Baruch Spinoza - Antonio Damasio and Rebecca Goldstein

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In 1656, Amsterdam’s Jewish community excommunicated Baruch Spinoza, and, at the age of twenty-three, he became the most famous heretic in Judaism. He was already germinating a secularist challenge to religion that would be as radical as it was original. He went on to produce one of the most ambitious systems in the history of Western philosophy, so ahead of its time that scientists today, from string theorists to neurobiologists, count themselves among Spinoza’s progeny.
In Betraying Spinoza, Rebecca Goldstein sets out to rediscover the flesh-and-blood man often hidden beneath the veneer of rigorous rationality, and to crack the mystery of the breach between the philosopher and his Jewish past. Goldstein argues that the trauma of the Inquisition’ s persecution of its forced Jewish converts plays itself out in Spinoza’s philosophy. The excommunicated Spinoza, no less than his excommunicators, was responding to Europe’ s first experiment with racial anti-Semitism.
Here is a Spinoza both hauntingly emblematic and deeply human, both heretic and hero-a surprisingly contemporary figure ripe for our own uncertain age.
Contemporaries called him "Satan incarnate" and "the most impious atheist who ever lived upon face of the earth." But he is now revered as arguably the greatest philosopher since Plato, as the political theorist who first enunciated the general principles for a secular democratic society, and in many ways a modern saint. Baruch, later Benedict, de Spinoza (1632-77) devoted his adult life to thinking about the biggest questions of all: the nature of God and the universe, the function of religion, man's elusive quest for happiness, the ideals of government, how we should conduct our lives. His own was one of absolute simplicity -- a rented room, a little gruel for supper, an occasional pipe of tobacco, most of it paid for by his small earnings as a lens-maker. But, as the poet Heinrich Heine said, "All our modern philosophers . . . see through the glasses which Baruch Spinoza ground."
Part of Spinoza's prescription for true happiness may sound familiar. The ancient Greeks advocated a stoic indifference to the world's ills; St. Augustine confessed that our hearts are restless until they rest in God; Buddhists believe that we must free ourselves from the wheel of desire to find spiritual beatitude. Unlike these austere systems, however, Spinoza's doesn't reject the body or the delights of the world: "It is the part of a wise man, I say, to refresh and restore himself in moderation with pleasant food and drink, with scents, with the beauty of green plants, with decoration, music, sports, the theater, and other things of this kind, which anyone can use without injury to another. For the human body is composed of a great many parts of different natures, which constantly require new and varied nourishment." And we should strive to be cheerful too: "Why is it more proper to relieve our hunger and thirst than to rid ourselves of melancholy?"

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@X-Incognito
@X-Incognito Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful conversation!
@Souljahna
@Souljahna 4 жыл бұрын
I am grateful for this interview with two people I much admire, about Spinoza whose thought has been influential in my own life. I did not appreciate however, how the interviewer cut off many explanations for breaks and then did not follow through when the conversation resumed! Really annoying.
@kimfreeborn
@kimfreeborn 4 жыл бұрын
I agree really horrible.
@fredpauser6228
@fredpauser6228 7 жыл бұрын
A correct understanding of Spinoza tells us that he believed that we do NOT have free will. I read Damasio's book, Looking for Spinoza. On page 174-175 Damasio wrote: "It is often said that Spinoza did not believe in free will..." And Damasio continued to attempt to reason away that notion, that in some sense Spinoza did believe in FW. I watched another lecture by Goldstein in which she also touched on the free will question. First she confused "fatalism" with "determinism," and then she went on to explain how Spinoza did believe in FW. Both Damasio and Goldstein are showing their bias -- their desire to believe that we have FW. They are rationalizing. Einstein was more favorably influenced by Spinoza than by any philosopher. He loved Spinoza. Einstein made it clear that he did NOT believe in FW (and nor did Spinoza).
@jimmuncy5636
@jimmuncy5636 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, Fred, I agree. Sam Harris explains our inherent determinism extremely well in his "Free Will." The universe is ruled by cause-and-effect; no one and no thing can escape it: I'm typing this comment out because of something in my history. But, I think, that Spinoza claims that we can be free if we are completely rational, like god, which is impossible to achieve in the extreme, but we can approach it. The more rationality, the more freedom.
@MichaeldeSousaCruz
@MichaeldeSousaCruz Жыл бұрын
“Free Will” free and independent choice; voluntary decision. the doctrine that the conduct of human beings expresses personal choice and is not simply determined by physical or divine forces. However, since our brains prepare to initiate a behavior before there is conscious awareness of the decision, your belief that you consciously chose to move is wrong; but in that lag time is the potential to consciously choose to veto that action - we may not have free will, but we have Free Won’t.
@Thomas-xn4tk
@Thomas-xn4tk Жыл бұрын
@@thotslayer9914 he was not a pantheist. Dr. Steven Nadler leads the modern charge in this posit.
@sarahtyrrell3585
@sarahtyrrell3585 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have shared this with our community.
@redmotherfive
@redmotherfive 7 жыл бұрын
Worst timing for commercial breaks, ever.
@yesyes4005
@yesyes4005 4 жыл бұрын
yes holy shit it cutsthe other guys train of thought wastes useful gold gems
@2bsirius
@2bsirius 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this. I've saved it to watch later.
@awb350
@awb350 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion!
@nanomicroart
@nanomicroart 9 жыл бұрын
Thank You, Well Done Bravo!
@paulrxxxmann6718
@paulrxxxmann6718 6 жыл бұрын
the book by matthew stewart is excellent , and also very amusing.
@deckiedeckie
@deckiedeckie 7 жыл бұрын
Where is the difference between the Portuguese "forcing" jews to be catholics and jews "forcing" other jews to accept the jewish religion??....under penalty of...read the Spinoza's excommunication document...jejejeje
@palladin331
@palladin331 4 жыл бұрын
There is no difference between Catholics forcing Jews (or anyone else) to be Catholics, and Jews forcing other Jews (or anyone else) to accept Judaism. Any system that includes the concept of heresy is the utmost folly and the source of enormous tragedies and crimes, both mental and physical. Although the Amsterdam Jews of Spinoza's time had political reasons for enforcing their heresy policy, there is no excuse. It reveals the contradictions and outright lies inherent in all religions. Spinoza figured this out at a very young age and he walked away from his excommunication unharmed, mentally or physically (except for one non-lethal knife attack), although he was for the rest of his life in danger of imprisonment, or worse, by the Christian authorities as a result of his 'ideas'. The marriage of religion and politics is a fatal error, as we learn each and every day.
@Thomas-xn4tk
@Thomas-xn4tk Жыл бұрын
The difference is Jews aren’t burning non-believing Jews via an Inquisition largely based on human desire of property and wealth with religion only being pretext
@bell1095
@bell1095 7 жыл бұрын
Quite much namedropping, including Spinoza himself.
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