Look at list of naturalized basketball players in wikipedia. Almost all are American, FIBA had to put a cap of 1 per team. Americans taking over international basketball so much Fiba had to put a cap. You used international players to help your argument. Europe has over double population of USA, and the rest of world has 20 times larger population of USA. When basketball becomes more popular in world, of course a bigger proportion of USA players will become international.

no because most of the Europeans you describe was developed here in the us I hate the fact that euroleague fans are trying to claim that they responsible for giannis and embiid growth

@@danielsmith7576 Noone talked about Embiid... he isnt european. And he also grew up in the US Highschool system. And no, Giannis learned the fundamentals in europe. He learned the physicality and post play in the US, cause he had to grow into his body first. You cant bully 7'0 250 lbs grown men in europe as a 6'9 175 lbs 17 year old. But he learned sharing, tactics, offball movement, angles... also when and where to be on defense... oh, and he learned to be coachable. Something a lot of american Highschool stars struggle with. Look at Young... how many coaches did he forced the Hawks to fire up to this point?

we do it better in Europe and thats clear we see and all will see it in the next 10 years the top 10 now has 8or9 europeans

The individual skills are strong...the team play and passing is lacking. Totally agree with this video.

Gotcha but the question also comes up is how good were you guys?LOL.

​@@grosskopf2779 I'd not be surprised if the average level of casual players would be higher in Europe than in the US. Do you guys have local casual championships and clubs?

@@marcbuisson2463 Yes, local leagues and club teams, some travel

@@grosskopf2779 To be fair, I'm struggling to find national info about them '-'. Like, in France, we have around 4500 clubs, each having one or more adult teams. We don't stop after high school, far from it. From afar, it sounds like just a career or a way to reduce college costs in the US '-'. But as I said, I'm struggling to find info, maybe it's not the case.

@@marcbuisson2463 In the USA, there are really three levels of basketball: High School basketball)from usually ages 13 to 18(there are exceptions max is 20) College Basketball - Usually from ages 18 -22(a lot of exceptions, I knew a player that played at the age of 26) and of Course professional in today's world 18 until... you can't play anymore(NBA,FIBA,G-league,China league,South America etc.) things can be confusing in the college different divisions NCAA I, 2, 3 and NAIA, Junior College. Now through all of that there's what we call intramural leagues which are like club teams, some are local, some travel, . This is usually in the college age but then there are leagues for ages like 40 and over, 50 and over, etc. In Highs school they have what is called the AAU league which runs parallel to regular HS but can be played over the summer, then there are traveling teams AAU. It's a lot, and unless you personally experience it, it can be confusing

Yeah that was good before the NBA evolved to a 3-ball league. Noe Popovic sucks. Ancient tactics

@@tumelotshabalala1239 more like he hasn’t had any good players or a star player since kawhi left. Seriously his kawhi lead team were doing pretty damn well against the warriors - the team that everyone is trying to copy. Idk how you can say such outlandish things in the modern time when theres 720p video of this around. Like you could probably say something reasonable about wilt chamberlains since there’s almost no footage of him. But saying this when there video proof in high definition is crazy.

@@milktea2422 any good or a star player? Demar Derozen?

@@tumelotshabalala1239 hahaha right. now tell us how Demar is comparable to Timmy, Manu or Tony?

@@plakomismark he's comparable to them because he's an all-star. DUH.

And the fact Europe has already got the template for this kind of thing down thanks to football and rugby they know how to set up a proper trainer feeding system for their clubs and national teams

Black people in America think basketball is only for blacks a black sports when they see white players they get jealous,angry and depressed and start whining and start complaining because without the sports they all be broke,poor and doing odd jobs ..... They just don't want white people to take over the sports but it's inevitable white people's can also play too .....

​@@michaelkehaid say the most similar template is hockey. NHL is the top league just like NBA in America. Europeans just have been around in NHL for longer than in NBA. Id say if you learn the history or follow the NHL, you will see the similar patterns appearing right now in the NBA what happened in the NHL couple of decades ago.

It's not that big. Football is way bigger than basketball. Basketball may not even be a top 5 sports in Europe overall. It's only relatively popular in Eastern Europe. That's why it's impressive how they were able to produce good and great players. USA vs Lithiania in a FIBA game is like USA vs a country comparable to the 10th smallest state of USA. California alone is 7 times larger than Lithuania and 21 times more people.

Basketball is not very popular in the Netherlands or Belgium where KORFBALL is more popular. In England NETBALL is more popular, just like it is in the other Commonwealth countries (Except Canada)

Damn bro that's crazy, that's where parents should've intervened; we all laugh at these overly invested fathers living vicariously through their sons sports careers and soccer moms, but if one person said something maybe it wouldve changed. Hell, you'd be better off with one of such weirdo fathers taking over the team and organising trainings based on drills found on KZfaq or some ish lol. Then again you'd probably quickly find other parents complaining about their precious amazing sons having to actually train while they're winning anyway so there's always that.

Well said my friend. It’s about unity, not selfishness. It’s a team sport. If you’re not making yourself and your team better, they’ll never go far.

This video was damn good. The clips he used to show bad decision making were perfectly hilariously bad.

So true!

While I agree with you generally, I think these proceedings are not the result of culture but mostly of completely unrestrained capitalism. The complete and utter commercialization of sports (trying to make profits of youth players, way too many games etc.) AND the public space (social media) leeds to what we perceive as a different "culture". I'd argue that culture in that case, is a lot more just a result of the systems, that we use to govern our affairs. And in the U.S. that's mostly unrestrained capitalism.

Hear Hear

yelling isn't a sign of good coaching and that trend of the coaches being angry and screaming their lungs out is changing in sports, thankfully. youngest coaches in European's best leagues are calm and collected and emphasize making their players confident and confortable playing

​@@mcfuckinanotheraccount808Younger couches maybe don't yell,but the best European coaches definitely do

@@mcfuckinanotheraccount808 I think he phrased that a little difficult. They yell because they care. It's not just buisness. There is a relationship, passion.

@@mcfuckinanotheraccount808 they don't yell at you with bad manners it is just so you have a reaction, I never had a problem with my coach and I respected him a lot

Seems like at the elite level, they develop their reputation by any great player they coached and not team wins.

it's different development system, nba team don't have youth system like football in europe, they got player from draft pick

Rooney😂, you mean Ronaldo. I think that's the only real system. Sports and school/university should be divided. In america you need to be extreme good at school or sports to afford a good education. But why a dumb person who can dribble a ball should be at a university? On the other hand you can't teach your players a system or philosophy like Ajax or Barca do.

@@ti8864 He meant Rooney, the man was a starter for Everton when he was 17.

I wish the NFL and the NBA had that, so many great talents have been destroyed by college sports. It's a scam

Rooney was overrated as hell and an ego player. He better would have played Dome more years in a lower ranked team.

That's not good for American soccer. European soccer is now heavily positional - just watching a Manchester City will teach how important positional play is.

what? literally dribbling is one of the most useless thing to teach to a kid who's learning the basics of the game. Dribbling is cool, but without position, passing and most importantly TEACHING HOW TO KICK THE BALL (something i see less and less with my little cousin even in italy) there is no way you are gonna win and build a team

To this day (25) I can’t do more than 6 kick ups or dribble through cones quickly. I can defend, make runs and pass, that’s what always got me into the first XI. Dribbling doesn’t matter

@@jeffhardy6333 come on bro, 6 kick ups? Just get the ball spinning backwards and you're golden

@@Sethro92 mate I got 2 left feet. I wish it was that easy for me, trust me😂😂😂

Obviously he was just a kid

Do you ever worry about his longevity? At a minimum, we should all be concerned about his weight management as it shifts too frequently to sustain a long career.

​@@iluvdissheet his playstyle isn't really dependent on athleticism. That alone will extend his career not accounting for injury.

Hall of fame giant slayer

@@natebaxter9551 I mean, how long is he trying to play? Hookah Doncic doesn't strike me as a guy thats gonna need/want to play till his body gives up.

These types of cross sport skills are invaluable and often not obvious at all. I recall an interview with Drew Brees when he credited playing tennis in high school with developing the quick footwork he needed to prosper as an NFL QB. Of course he didn’t realise it at the time - he was just having fun playing. But that’s the point.

Heard an interview with a successfull football (soccer for the US guys) player after his retirement. He stated that he also didn't just play football all year round (Where he is from you'd play on snow during the winter.) So he went skiing and played ice hockey during winter in childhood and youth. He mentioned that "cross training" to have been very helpfull in teaching balance, and "to get the head clear from doing the same thing over and over again tha whole year". And each team sport you aren't the best of the team meas you learn to work for the team and improove.

Aye, not sure why I got recommended either Closest I've got to this sport is watching Kuroko no Basket But a facinating video

In EU we are encouraged to play other sports in our free time, I trained football (soccer) for the club, the position of goalkeeper, at school we HAD to play basketball, volleyball, football, handball, badminton, chess, even in my free time with my friends I played basketball, tennis, volleyball, if I played football I wasn't a goalkeeper like when I was playing for a club

Old School High School Basketball. It was mandatory to run CC in the Fall if you expected to be on the Basketball Team in Winter. Playing Football was discouraged unless it was your strongest Sport

Truly the greatest not just in Lithuania not just in Europe but in the whole world

Twolves ended this

@@Imnotsemi ask tumberwolves

@@JackTray I genuinely have no clue why I was glazing like that

Thugs coaching undisciplined kids is a recipe for disastrous citizens

Kids here play high school basketball too. Can't make AAU the scape goat

@@mrhoopfan1 High school basketball is fine, most of the AAU circuit sucks

@@mrhoopfan1 high school basketball and AAU are complete opposite things

@@_________. kids aren't at AAU as much as people try to say

Drazen Petrovic and healthy Arvydas Sabonis would open american eyes sooner...

Drazen is the best shooter of all time. Not greatest but best

@@kobe5283 Even Reggie Miller complained about guarding him. No wonder, Draz's release was so quick that it was crazy. There's even a video of very young Steph Curry watching him play.

This will never happen ever and I can bet you that

@@KRS7u5 Great Talents

Yet usa still wins the most

exactly. If teens are playing only to get the next TikTok highlight dunk without checking who's next to them and how their team is playing, you're building young selfish superstars that will eventually miss shots or drop balls because of their lack of team structure awareness. In europe it's a known fact that BBall is a collective sport ^^

This. I once triggered a bunch of Bones Hyland's fanboys by pointing out that it's weird he puts out his own mixtapes and creates his own hype with so little under his belt.

nah i can just see the racism coming from your comment

@@yourdreams2440 nah man I'm just an older dude (😓) who doesn't like how modern athletes use social media for clout, unless it's like LeBron who raises awareness for important causes

​@@yourdreams2440 Racism? Huh?

Anyone who doesn't play every minute of every game could be said to be load managing. Chuck and MJ would hate if you suggested that any team with reserves was load managing though. Yes, it sucks that players can't play every game. Maybe 98+ games a year to win a championship is too many for any one player to play at 100% in. If so, either expectations or the number of games needs to change.

he is not european

@@pedrao420 dont know if you are trolling but of course he is not european but his career and development is like he was, even his last name is italian, and i also never said he was, just took him as the prime example of load management

@@pedrao420 he played in europe before going to the NBA. From 98 to 02 in Italy.

​@@pedrao420 who cares? They suck

Yet usa wins the most

Denver Nuggets is a example of this with Jokic, Porter and Murray.

my gramps used to coach Yugoslavia, created some clubs, was the first wave of the balkans bball scene, and a few years back, Popovic invited him to coach a bit over there, show some of the fundamentals. sadly, he was already in his 90' , had to decline and then died a few years later. i used to play in the montenegrin league, and played serb players, and all had the fundamentals down, and the ones that played for the points, would lose the game for the team.

On one hand it’s the ring fishing culture in the NBA. A bunch of superstars running around the league asking for maximum support for themselves. For teams to do that, young guys often got traded for immediate helps. No actually coaching been done. On the other hand, the draft/social media oriented training camps for younger teens. It’s all about “me” and “my flashy scoring”, no actual concepts of team and how to win with it.

Yeah they're getting left behind. I always see these highlights of high school prospects and they're just doing a bunch of fancy dribble moves/etc but aren't really playing a good game of team basketball. Even just in this video when you see clips being compared that are just a few seconds long, the Europeans look like they're playing a well organized game, and the Americans just look like they're all over the place, defense looks clueless, etc

@user-yx4pc9oz5t We’re talking about Basketball

Yes

Showboating is on the rise and the fundamentals of teamwork are no longer important. “Teamwork is not a preference; it's a requirement.” - John Wooden

Facts. I was playing men's Division 4 basketball every now and then here in Finland back when I was 17 years old, and even though it's literally shit tier beer league basketball, it's against fully grown adult men, so getting to the rim for example was a completely different ball game. You can't move those 30-year-old bodies around like kids your own age, and they know how to play smart defense, and flat out make you look silly. I was getting pushed around in the paint and brick walled on screens. You really need to learn to take a completely different approach to the game when you're at a disadvantage like that. I'd imagine it's probably very similar to what 19-year-old American rookies coming out of college ball are up against when getting into the NBA, except that the grown ass men they're going up against are also the most skilled hoopers on the entire planet.

That is how college once was when you came in against upper classmen. Only a handful of freshmen started or even played significant minutes when guys stayed 4 years. The NCAA even made freshmen ineligible for a long time. Those couple extra years learning to play as a team and in a system meant/means a lot.

Yea, as a European how long it takes to get to play for real is odd to me. 16-17 year olds often will get game time in football if they're good enough. I honestly think it's about money. Simply making rules they can't be paid until they're supposed to be "fully developed" is an easy way to save money on developing players.

@@Londronable It's because the us has a highschool system, into college system and college sports is huge in the usa i think it would be like lower league football in europe kind of but not the same since i assume they all college aged.

Coming is a 16 and 17 year old into a 1st team can often provide a very important thing for these guys, a kind of low level ego death. A reality check where they realise how far they have to go physically and technically, so they can refocus and grow much more easily without their ego getting in the way, and if done succesfully they come out on the otherside either more confident than before but for the right reasons (see luka) or ready to be a team player and a cog in a side

Astute observation coach. This not just a basketball problem. Club/travel sports are limiting young athletes physical development. I’m a personal trainer and the amount of kids/teenagers that I encounter who can’t squat ass to grass, can’t differentiate between a torso rotation and a pelvic rotation is disheartening. Like is mentioned in the video and you said as well. These kids play their sport year round but hit the same moves and never significantly improve. There’s never an off-season. I think the nba is the first time players actually have time to deload and improve body function

@@IrkedLurkerin England my coach would say he would rather us loose games playing properly and us develop rather than win by letting the best players score etc etc.

Youth sports should not be business at all, ever, period.

To some degree the kids are a commodity too in Europe. I think a major difference is the that we don't have high school, college and then professional sports. The Clubs are independent organisations and train the kids all the way from the little leagues to the professional men. They have an interest to train well rounded athletes and not to waste their talent before they even make it to the big leagues.

In EU we are encouraged to play other sports in our free time, I trained football (soccer) for the club, the position of goalkeeper, at school we HAD to play basketball, volleyball, football, handball, badminton, chess, even in my free time with my friends I played basketball, tennis, volleyball, if I played football I wasn't a goalkeeper like when I was playing for a club.. and it had impact on mind and body..

Yea. C. Ronaldo back in his teens was like that. Showboat with a relatively low end product. Didn't take that long for him to fix it but still.

@@Londronable You hit on the core of the problem. Ronaldo is a generational talent one of the greatest to ever play soccer. But for every Ronaldo there's 100,000 Rafael Scheidt's. The AAU system is busy trying to find the next Michael Jordan and in doing so they aren't developing guy's with potential but less raw talent. The AAU will still produce superstars, but we're going to see more and more workhorse players coming out of Europe.

@@Londronable why is football into the conversation ? Analogy is not always comparison

And when 90% of all players are American/Canadian, yet the last 4 MVPs went to foreigners.

"When a late 2nd round pick wins multiple MVPs it should be a major wakeup call.". Misconception, Jokic was drafted in the second round because only the Nuggets knew about him. It's not that no one considered him promising, just no one knew about him(except for Denver).

Makes sense!

usa needs a national leauge system with regulations other than nba. Most teams in europe has 2- 3 million euro budget this is nothing for usa.

Training too much can effect performance

sounds kinda sad to get people off of the blacktop though lol.. so counter to USA basketball culture..

Have you seen knees over toes guy? Sounds like his experience as well. I’m 43 and dealing with some knee pain as well. The problem is a lot us were not taught the proper way to care for our knees and other joints. It just you dont realize it until years later.

@@H41030v3rki110ny0u I totally agree. It's definitely a sacrifice.

@@nodeout5465 I've watched a few of his videos. The guy seems to know what he's doing. Hard to know.

that's why i stopped watching nba at 2am and just watch euroleague like a normal person. it's just boring to watch hours of commercial for bad basketball. let's go red star ai gamisou pao!

@@gahdhsh623 My man learned Greek to trash talk Panathinaikos, that's the Balkan basketball atmosphere we all love!

@@gahdhsh623 which one because there also clubs like the football (soccer)

@@gahdhsh623 for basketball then you have Taiwan’s where Dwight is only going crazy with dropping 82 games

@@gahdhsh623 82 points

They spent only on black kids if they spent the same money on whites kids in America they will be better than them and again Black people in America think basketball is only for blacks a black sports when they see white players they get jealous,angry and depressed and start whining and start complaining because without the sports they all be broke,poor and doing odd jobs ..... They just don't want white people to take over the sports but it's inevitable white people's can also play too .....

Yeah but those young players on the European teams actually get a salary. NCAA teams will never pay someone so why stay?

Ball aslo has changed in Europe as well. Players have more "room to breath" now, and it's not all about 100% team plays.

@@localhobo5362 agreed

Usually they are met with a lot of hate and skepticism (some case racism), hence they are "project", this way the teams can kick them out or bench them without angering the american fans too much, we see a lot of this with Chinese or African NBA players, being non-American you gotta be careful not to get too big in the sport or else.

Did they really lack confidence?

@@hmmm2564 I believe it yeah. It really is about the way they are taught and their environmemt. Just to sum up : -traditional EU training = youth dont get much minutes but play/train almost every day. They play experienced and skilled adult players or the best promising kids of the country(u17/19). Team first Basketball, find the opened shot, learn tactics and space, learn to be a contributor even if you play 8 minutes. If you force a shot, you go sit on the bench. The goal is simple : WIN. GAMES. -AAU/NA Training = grind your skills, play your level of competition, focus on yourself, polish your handles and play for your stats so that you can get clics & scholarship. When you travel on weekend you have to show everybody you're the best. Team ? who cares about your team ? You won't play with them next year! Tactics ? You'll learn tactics and how to be a good teammate later. The EU system overall is a much better environment, but a few years ago the youth system was too much about team first and EU players often arrived in the NBA lacking individual skills (shoot/handles/postup). Now it seems this has been corrected, so I'm not really surprised to see more and more EU talent come and flourish in the NBA.

incidentally, a lot of Kobe's early basketball life stories come from when he would hang out with the 76ers when he was at home in Philadelphia, or with pros wherever his dad was playing or working. He was submerged in pro basketball and adopting that humble, high IQ studious attitude that, as one NBA analyst put it (I forgot whom) makes his 39 inch vertical more potent than someone else's 42.

Lol, Euro Giannis is Mr Run and Dunk

@@mrhoopfan1 nice job man... You took one of the few that fall outside of that description to prove a point. Nice job.

@@LucaPetraliaPhotography Cool, Luka embodies team effort, efficiency, and defense, lol....same thing James Harden was doing ... For one guy we said " he is ruining basketball ", the other guy we call " fundamentally sound, plays the right way, genius, etc" despite him dribbling the air out of the ball half the time....

@@mrhoopfan1 you're right. Luka is an extremely lazy defender Like Harden.

Serbians and Croatians are my favorite basketball players

I respect the hell out of that approach. I mean, I think everyone should get a little bit of floor time, but holding people accountable and making them really learn the game is very commendable

​@@CountryViewMeadows Doncic's father is Serbian

@@slobodankaradzic9582 Dončić was born in Šempeter pri Gorici, Yugoslavia, now present-day Slovenia.

Yes,i agree with u.Slava Ukrajini..pozz iz Srbije 💪🇷🇸🇺🇦💪

Agree

A lot of American coaches in the lower levels (high school, college) have recognized this for years but seem to be cancelled out, overwhelmed by the rising influence of NBA-style basketball over the past 30-40 years. We hope that the success of European players in the NBA will help swing the pendulum back to team oriented basketball.

@Reality dunks are the best part in basketball

@Reality without spectators the Sport is dead. You gotta give them a show too

@Reality you realize without money they also die? They are all about money remember that

That's true, biggest tragedy for basketball at all was dissolution of Yugoslavia, imagine now that national team with Doncic, Jokic, Bogdan Bogdanovic, Bojan Bogdanovic, Vucevic, Saric, Hezonja, Musa, Nurkic.... they would be neck to neck with team USA at the olympics.

That’s kind of sad their lives are so on the rails that way. No room to dream. You made it at 9 years old or you’re not going to make it

@@Augrills there are exceptions though, it all depends on the character of each player

I was thinking about the club situation. The value of such a system is just as you described. The downside, of course, is that some players do not develop until they are 16-18+ years old. What is the pathway for "later bloomers" in the club situation? I generally like the club environment, it makes sense, but there are so many examples of guys not growing until they are older. I went to college with a former Laker named Devean George. He went to my DIII school when he was 6'3" and by the time he graduated he was closer to 6'7" and was first-round pick of the Lakers. I know he's an outlier, but I think it illustrates the point.

@@jeffvanderwerf3391 On the contrary! Because the structure is much wider and much more efficient, even late bloomers are identified quickly and moved to where they "belong". For example, let's say a player is a late bloomer and only starts overindexing at 18-19, he/she would play in the lower national leagues (usually we have 3 national divisions, and countless regional divisions) playing against the B, C or D teams of bigger clubs. Those talents get scouted, brought into more professional clubs and developed accordingly. Barcelona, Madrid, Pana, etc have many many teams playing in each category precisely for that purpose. Imagine a much much bigger G-League, where the lower teams of NBA teams play against semi-pro teams. We have quite a lot of examples in the Euroleague of players who for whatever reason only make it to the main leagues age 25-26 and then go on to be very successful!

@@jeffvanderwerf3391 Your missing the european part since i dont know the basketball system il explain it the football/soccer way. You have a pyramid in all european countries lets take england you have the prem, Championship, League one, League two, Van national, Van national north and south and then it keeps going down lots of tiers. Take a player like Jamie Vardy he was in the lower leagues didnt get picked up by a big club but kept playing kept scoring. Bigger team spots him buys him moves up still keeps scoring bigger team buys him moves up more. This dude climbed all the way up to the premiership with Leicester City and even won the league. But There are players who will never make it but you can still be a pretty decent player in lower leagues and make a living. Take like Bukayo Saka he is 21 right now hes been in the Arsenal Academy most his life and joined the senior squad at 18 playing vs prem players. You can often see 16 and 17 year olds getting game time.

This is a really insightful comment. The answer does seem to lie somewhere in the middle of the American and European systems.

@achastos The Duncan Robinson podcast with the Wagner brothers will explain it a bit, particularly from Franz’s viewpoint.

Indeed

You are so right! Even Giannis who never really went through the euro system had during his first years in the NBA trouble developing his basketball "attitude". I remember him saying "whatever the coach tells me to do I will do" when answering question like "why didn't you try to take over" or something like that. This is typical euro basketball mentality. The team (and coach) comes first. Individual skills are only there to service the team. Obey the play! The system comes first! But it is players who can bend these rules through personality and skill that become truly special. It is they who make even strict euro coaches say. Yep, let him do his thing... Bogdanovic, Spanoulis, Luka, Navarro, Diamantidis, to name a few.

The problem isn't a focus on team vs individual basketball. The problem in the US is a development system focused around a draft and colleges. You're never going to have a successful development system if you have a draft system which means teams aren't insintivised to invest in youth development.

OverEast34 It's not the coaching. European have a much higher avg IQ than Americans & they are capable of strategy & teamwork that is beyond the capacity of Americans to understand. That said, we still have a much deeper talent pool & have more individual talent, probably always will. Europeans are not taking over the NBA anytime soon.

@@kieranjtierney I see these kids at tournaments, have coached, and have close friends in the basketball circles here and we all say the same thing. Kids can’t just pick up basic ball concepts on their own, so someone needs to teach them. I see so many guys who think just because they’ve played and followed basketball for so long they think they know what’s up, but they don’t stress things like screening, cutting, rotating on defense, etc.

@@kieranjtierney so why have USA won them many times over them in the olympics? you liceheads are ridiculous.

​@@kieranjtierney Higher IQ lol. Basketball fundamentals are taught. If Europeans were superior, team USA couldn't just throw a team together in 2 months and still win Gold.

​​@@kieranjtierney Preposterous statement and boarderline racist in your implication that IQ differentiates American and European players. American players up until the early 2000s were just as fundamentally sound, team oriented, and heady as the current crop of Europeans that everybody is lauding over. There are a multitude of reasons why American players are developmentally behind...none of it has to do with IQ. I'd suggest you do better research than fall back on lazy, ignorant tropes.

It's been killing the league but unfortunately increasing the revenue/ profit at the cost of purest form of 5 vs 5 basketball itself. Sad

I remember growing up and just stealing the ball easily from so many different aau teams because their guards couldn't dribble with both hands. It has only gotten worse as I've watched my younger cousins coming up through the ranks. The level of basketball in the US today compared to 15 years ago has gone extremely down hill. Yeah there's still those generational talents but the overall team play is so weird to watch nowadays. Bad organization from coaching staffs, pretty much just letting kids do whatever. No structures offense, lazy defense, poor conditioning. Most of our high school JV teams from 2010 would beat most these 2023 varsity teams.

@@Sethro92 seems like a lot of the AAU coaches are just paying the lottery, trying to cash in on a big star instead of actually coach a team

@@rwalker0130 100%

We learn these sports as "team first" more than "show off tour talent"

@@Arkansya guess what. Argentina is the World soccer champion.

​@@oscaralegre3683 They're also the only non-european team to win in 20 years and did it on the back of a record numbers of penalties at the most openly corrupt event in history

@@epicmarschmallow5049 Brazil 5 World cups. Argentina 3 and Uruguay 2.

@@oscaralegre3683 this is not a soccer video and most good argentinian players play on Europe

Yep, without a doubt, be more like European Soccer teams. Although due to the draft existing, there will need to be some changes to the system, maybe the NBA teams will just fund an independent organization to run the academies. They are _kind_ of doing this with the G-League Ignite program, the problem there is it's much too late in players development to make the impact you'd want to see. See Jalen Green for an example.

that’s what the g league is for……

@@ThaTruth223 it's much too late by the time someone is in the G league.

@@ThaTruth223 clubs in europe have U-7 (under 7 years old) teams in their youth academies, they often develop these kids for 10-15 years before they even get to the pro level, by the time players in the US go to the G-League they're 18 and already have most of their development behind them, that's way too late.

I always asked myself this question. like why does the nba not have academies like football instead of drafting which a lot of the picks dont go so well. In an academy if a player has the potential but wont get playing time (due to the senior players being better) just loan them to a small club for them to develop.

it's also been shown that a ton of exercise in a expertise sports while very young significantly increases your chances of injury as an adult when playing at a high level. Lonzo Ball is a perfect example of this

Now Fontecchio is a rotation player 💪🏼

Markkanen is a beast lol and it's kinda funny how little attention it gets. People talk about him like he is like Dirk just because of his skin color.

@Charmander I agree with you! 85% of viewers have no idea how to win but they shout loudly their opinion and DUH 💩💩 most of them watch 1 or 2 games a week and they believe they know what is right or wrong in the league

People be like "white men can't jump" lol

@Soundtallica in Chains if you watch carefully, any race' person can jump! Not every person but is a lil percent of the whole population!

@@BoxCarBoy12 Not after Mac McClung

A big issue with NCAA is the one-and-done system. A player can be eligible for the NBA after one college season. So you show up in August, and by the next April, you are done with NCAA basketball. So not as much coaching can truly occur

Interesting thing is - in Europe players gets benched super fast for a very bad decisions during defense. You can rarely see coaches getting mad over some bad offensive play (missed shot, TO, bad pass,..), but if someone missed a cutter on defense or is late on help defense, and most importantly - doesn't make an early foul to prevent easy drive/score while team is still not in penalty - coaches benches players really fast. If your team has 2 team fouls, you are a guard, got a switch and now you are defending a center 2meters away from the basket - you better make that foul as soon as you can, else hear the screams from the coach while sitting on the bench :D

I have never been a fan of american style of basketball ever since then but i do like NBA players and their style of play got worse as the years pass. No doubt that they have the best basketball talent but in terms of team basketball especially today they are probably the worst.

Thats a lie

I love that bit about refs telling players to toughen up.

My son plays AAU basketball, predominantly to stay in shape for school teams. He has been lucky to be good enough to play quite a few minutes, but he has kids on his team who sit on the bench for all but 1-2 minutes at the end of blow-outs (although there are a lot of blow-outs in AAU). Coaches often focus on the main 6-7 players, in order to win, and the other guys are there to fill in when there are injuries or foul outs. It is disheartening for the kids who really need more development opportunities, I think. I don't think many parents in my area (NYC) expect their kids to be Lebron or Jordan, but I do think a lot of them think their kids are going to play college ball, which is nearly as unattainable -- especially the D1 scholarship level. AAU feeds on that dream. On the other hand, local schools don't always offer opportunities for kids to improve -- they have them try out and expect them to be good enough -- so AAU is main chance for kids hoping to make varsity (or even JV) to play. I think basketball in particular is tricky. The best kids when they are young do not need to be very tall or fast. However, as we all know, some kids do not hit their growth spurts until the are 16-20 years old. In a sport that relies to much on height, that makes it tough to predict which kids will end up with the right physique; as a result, some kids stop playing too early because they may have skills but are simply too small.

Americans think basketball = hurr durr jumping and dunking Team sports are always played with your brain, physicality is never gonna be as important as your IQ, never...

@@luizmatte4345 what is this take??

@@Nini-kc5ss Correct Or are you gonna tell me the average american basketball fan i.e. casual, doesn't think dunking is what makes a player great?

@@luizmatte4345 nah bruh even as a casual people know the basics. Its a very popular sport here compared to europe so I don’t understand your take.

...and we won't, because the narrative has been pushed that "proper" basketball isn't taught in the US anymore, and as a consequence, we're losing ground. I certainly have my issues with AAU, Adidas & Nike camps, and HS coaches who aren't certified to coach fundamental, team basketball...but let's not get it twisted...the bulk of the NBA talent still comes from the US despite these deficiencies. On both the junior and senior national team levels, the US wins more than it loses. The US is still sending players overseas who go on to have successful careers. The rise of Doncic, Jokic and others is the inevitable result of the game going global following the Dream Team's debut 30 years ago. And I suspect that in the years to come more players from Latin America, Africa, the Caribbean, and Asia will also enter the league to ply their trade. The NBA hasn't become the England's Football Premiership yet, where the best players collectively aren't English. We'll see how demographics change in the next 20 years in the NBA.

​@@MHiggs-rx5zz lol u just hate some white boys are showing up and doing damage. Cry more racist

Exactly, finally someone with brain

we dont tho we are 145 wins to 10 losses in non exibition matchs against the world dont know where this narrative is that we are falling behind tbh we are actually pulling ahead as basketball is more popular then ever but thier are more us superstars then before

lmfao no

@@ThaTruth223 Why do you think more and more prospects, like RJ Hampton and the Balls skipped college and went overseas? It isn't just because of the pay, it is to play against grown men in serious pro competitions.

Absolutely. Same exact thing here in my area. At 55, I can easily win with older player and and crush these young undisciplined "athletic" players. They think because they JUMP higher or RUN faster is better. Very cocky and WAY over- confident equates to OLD guys handing them losses....and they STILL don't get it. No passing, all 3's, no defense...EASY WINS.

It's also a bit too late. You'd ideally get the kids into academies years before that. Guys like Jalen Green were already score first, offense only players by the time they got to the Ignite.

@@andrewshandle You're right but lets see what the adjustments they will do.

Bingo. Nobody is surprised the best football players don't come from one country. Make a best 11 and you could probably argue a best 11 of 11 nationalities.

Basketball has been prevelant in Europe for the past 37 years or so . The reason the Euroleague has boomed in popularity outside of Europe is mostly because of the internet and people start to lean their harsh judge of European Basketball since they get way too many examples mostly of the defensive plays presented to the fans which , at the same time , firmly expose the weaknesses of many top NBA stars . As far as the coaches go , yeah , it's pretty much an one man dictatorship on the bench since they're forced in active participation into the game ( seriously , if the coach loses their cool at any point , it's means trouble ) .

@@panoskakkavas4022 yeah mistake from me basketball has been around in Europe for a while, but it does seem like NBA scouts are more interested in foreign players than ever before, and are actively looking to scout foreign players from across the world but Europe especially instead of just trying to get the best American players, leading to more and more European players being drafted into the NBA.

Please dont think anymore

@@panoskakkavas4022 Americans think nobody played basketball before, like the “rims in the hoods” don’t exist in Europe… It’s typical arrogance and ignorance… Europeans are better educated in basketball, it’s not one men game in Europe, it’s a team game. That’s why Luka, Giannis and many more guys say that is harder to play in Europe… Luka or Jokić can’t shoot 30+ every game in Europe, no way!

@@hidajetsejdic4270 Which is true . The biggest difference is that in the FIBA we don't play with defensive 3 secs and handchecking is firmly encouraged . Thus , defenses are tougher and more provocative with less chance for penalization to anyone .

Exactly, people are forgetting that college ball exists in this argument.

Correct but that’s the pinnacle of amateur basketball. You cannot have a low IQ and play in the NCAA final. Just like high level AAU, it’s more organised

@@jeffhardy6333 But aren't those the players that the NBA picks from ?

@@stanw909 not always but yes you’re right. There’s more to lose if you don’t play like a team player in college though. Those boys aren’t even getting paid, imagine losing a scholarship and ruining your draft hopes?

Mindset???????? Europans have 10x better mindset than americans

@@filipmilosevicpavicic5307 Mindset of dedicating everything early on... Take Dirk for example. He nearly didnt sign up for the draft cause he wanted to get an apprenticeship and go to the army... he played a lot of different sports and wasnt focussed on Basketball as a profession at a young age. Hence why he had huge problems in his first season. If it wasnt for Donnie and Nash who helped him a lot, he couldve easily been another failed european talent in the 90's early 2000... If he was drafted by another club, not sure he would even be a NBA player for more then a couple of years. Now look at Luka. He trained professionally since age 13. Dedicating everything to be the best player possible. Same with Jokic. When he choosed basketball, it was only Basketball and nothing else. Thats what I mean. Talented american kids do the same thing for decades. European players were allways skilled. But now they also have the 100% dedication early on, cause even youth leagues are highly professional. They werent 20 or 30 years ago, cause the clubs just didnt have any money. Exception was the east block... but thats a different story how they treated talentend kids.