Bassnectar 360 Subwoofer Sound Design

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Dave Rat

Dave Rat

Күн бұрын

Lets take a look at optimizing a 360 Degree Arena Cardioid Subwoofer Coverage with a focus on extreme cancellation venue center.
00:00 Intro and description
02:15 Soundvision prediction 5 subs forward facing
04:22 40 sub ring
06:05 5 subs with 3 rear subs with no delay
06:54 5 subs with 3 rear subs end-fire
08:45 5 subs with 3 rear subs cardioid
10:08 Adding in full ring in cardioid
13:03 Magnitude of cancellation and real world
13:57 Temperature make a difference
15:59 Dealing with real time adjustment of cancellation
17:50 Photos of show
20:49 Outro
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@Ratso_au
@Ratso_au Жыл бұрын
I liked this format Dave. Nice to see the journey from problem, to theoretical solution through to implementation
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@Jlinwoodjackson
@Jlinwoodjackson Жыл бұрын
All of his “tutorials “ are like this. He usually has some sort of “model situation “ set up on the computer, or with actual gear. His videos are crazy informative. He shows it all. And he has soooo much real world, cut your teeth knowledge on tour sound
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Cool cool James, and Dover is a member of my channel as well. I do live zoom chats and post them and there are a few hundred more vids on the member side
@maxwaehrens4402
@maxwaehrens4402 Жыл бұрын
Only thing that could have topped it off, was a short demo of the points in your conclusion here: 19:55
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
I've been pondering a setup that will demonstrate low frequency nulls in a desktop videotapable scenario. That said, I am on to new adventures and need balance sharing stuff I already know and did vs stuff I enjoy figuring out and learning.
@visathief
@visathief Жыл бұрын
Young audio engineer here, videos like this are incredible resources in practical problem solving. Explanations were very clear and concise, especially the little details of temperature change and how to keep levels consistent in spite of it. Great stuff!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@kenp9073
@kenp9073 Жыл бұрын
Your performance as a sound engineer is just as, if not more important than the performance of the actual musicians. Poetry in motion is an understatement! Thanks again Dave for sharing real world knowledge with us!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Fun and thank you! 🤙
@spejsat4505
@spejsat4505 Жыл бұрын
I surely hope you mean is this instance specifically? This guy is a good engineer i have no doubt and much respect! But the SE is around at all to make the musician translate in the room, or on record. Im strawmannirg you because you probably meant this specific performance tho... which is very much materialsport music from what i gather, high and mighty as i am...
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 9 ай бұрын
Hmmm, an artist can be defined many ways and one way is that an artist is someone who can transform ideas concepts, emotions or entities into a form that is more understandable or accessible to others. Putting more or less weight on the various links in the chain is a very individual decision. Beautiful architectural concepts are nothing without a master builder and a craftsman capable of fulfilling the build along with the mathletics of structural engineers to ensure feasibility and stability. My heroes might not be the same as your heroes and you are no more or less correct than I in who we consider a true artist
@WompRok
@WompRok 7 ай бұрын
​@spejsat4505 no for any bullshit DJ who requires this dumbass decibel level. Perfect example of being louder is better, great for grooming high schoolers. Dave is the artist on this one, fuck bassnectar and fuck dipshit DJs with their heads stuck up their ass lmfao
@PsychicHealingFactoryOutlet
@PsychicHealingFactoryOutlet Жыл бұрын
As a non-engineer whos interested in spatial audio and the physicality of sound, its super interesting to see the software used for designing a sound space on this scale. I’d love to see more, especially nontraditional configurations or works with lots of low frequency in three dimensions.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@thenoisynomad
@thenoisynomad Жыл бұрын
Love the timing of this video in my life right now. I’m at Rational Acoustics going through SMAART training and just set up cardioid subs for the first time yesterday. Walking around the pair of subs and hearing the rejection blew my mind. It’s one thing to know the theory, but the practical application made me giddy. I can only imagine what it must’ve been like to get on that stage and hear, or rather not hear it for the first time! Thanks Dave!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Fun and yes!
@TheKb117
@TheKb117 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveRat can you liken it to being in the eye of the storm... the lull and peace, and yet you know outside the bass is raging... hahaha
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
It really was a surreal eye of the storm feel
@kenners02
@kenners02 Жыл бұрын
I’m going through SMAART training also!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Good plan. Awesome software and important to know
@mattarthurs3571
@mattarthurs3571 Жыл бұрын
Very VERY cool stuff Dave. I was not present for this show you designed specifically but I was present for multiple other “360” shows Bassnectar put on and they were truly a magical experience provided by a one of a kind production. Standing anywhere in a 20-30,000 person stadium and it sounding as if you are up front is something wild. It’s amazing to see the technical application here having experienced it live as well. More stuff like this please!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@RyanKirk99
@RyanKirk99 Жыл бұрын
That is interesting how seemingly small differences in time and temperature can have such a dramatic difference in the end result. Thanks for allowing us audio geeks a peek behind the scene.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@Matt.S.
@Matt.S. Жыл бұрын
This was such a great video; I remember learning this in school. We did a small setup in a staging room and I will never forget how erie it was to be standing behind 1,000s of watts of subwoofers and almost all the sound was gone, but yet I could hear EVERYTHING shaking and vibrating intensely. I would have paid $100s to have experienced your setup. 🤩
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@Toggymok
@Toggymok Жыл бұрын
'The eye of the storm'
@chrishall4012
@chrishall4012 Жыл бұрын
Seen Bassnectar over 100 times and this show was definitely top 5 in sound
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Love that!!!
@StereoAnthony
@StereoAnthony Жыл бұрын
I totally would pay to have experienced this as well. Just amazing!
@UncleManuel
@UncleManuel Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, this is ANC on a whole other level! Using reverse-phased subs to improve quality of live for the DJ/performer is quite genious! 😎😎👍👍
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@jarrett7977
@jarrett7977 Жыл бұрын
I was at this show. This video is an absolute gem for someone who not only loved his 360 shows, but a sound nerd as well. So cool to watch and learn! And I was in the riser seats and it was plenty loud!! It was awesome. Thank you for your hard work.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Awesome and yeah that was a fun show
@AttawayAudio
@AttawayAudio Жыл бұрын
Fascinating journey through design, conception, implementation, and continued testing. With the small changes in delay times being such a significant factor, I'd imagine that sub positioning being precise down to the 1/4" was a critical component as well. Thanks for sharing!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Yes, position was critical and arcing the subs may have been even better but I reached what I believe to be the point of diminishing returns
@nathanbarnes4740
@nathanbarnes4740 Жыл бұрын
What a fascinating video! Seriously loved it! It was awesome seeing the prediction process being brought to life with the actual rig. And that you monitored it with Smaart during the show to optimise it even further when the room was warming up is just so cool. Awesome work.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@raiden72
@raiden72 Жыл бұрын
I was there in Birmingham 2015 and for NYE the next couple of years! That is so cool to see how the magic is done! Thank you so much for your hard work and dedication to the craft!!! Those Bassnectar shows were surely a sight to see. It is really a shame How some may abuse their fame to exploit others, but there's no question that those shows were a work of art
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@YourMomsFavoriteCommenter
@YourMomsFavoriteCommenter Жыл бұрын
@raiden72 I haven't been following the basshead scene, but I do like some Bassnectar music. Can you give me the rundown on what you're referring to? Short or long answer, if any, works. Thanks in advance.
@raiden72
@raiden72 Жыл бұрын
@@YourMomsFavoriteCommenter i could not summarize it better than the vice article, "fall of Bassnectar"
@pauljohnson2478
@pauljohnson2478 Жыл бұрын
@@YourMomsFavoriteCommenter seems like a bunch of girls (some women technically) made obviously retarded decisions which they are now cashing in on with media hysteria and pretending like their choices were solely the product of manipulation, instead of actually owning up to their real mistakes from their ultimate self decision. Did they fall victim to their own obsessions? They took money for fucking a famous person, they probably bragged to their friends about it. Have you ever heard girls of that age group talk privately? Esp. ones that behave like that... Now they are taking money for insinuiating they were raped, which is pretty awful degredation to the term for people that have been. The human condition is in a state of dissarray. It's offensive to hear about this, thinking about the immense history of people, and all the terrible malpractice, and suddenly the tables are turned and the plebs are able to manipulate and generate benefits too. This is not an Epstein-like story. These people weren't trafficked, they weren't bred in captivity at a Mexican ranch. Teenagers aren't supposed to be allowed to make such character harming mistakes, they shouldn't be programmed to think they can get away with those mistakes, they shouldn't be allowed to wear them like this, it does nothing to limit this kind of dynamic in the future. Now all these fan girls will think they can get the story, get the cash, and win the lawsuit no worries, everyone will support their terrible decisions. Very selfish and sad. The moral of the story is don't be disgusting, it will have an impact. For Bassnector to lower himself to these impulsive situations due to a leverage many at his level have used forever, and for those girls to prostitute themselves, it's not a good move. Beatle-mania should have been a big red flag in hindsight. Widespread hysteria is unhealhty, everyone is targeted and it is needed from every individual to not fall victim by making good choices and carrying oneself in a considered and ethical way. It impacts everything not just our own little selves. A serious pity, and there's no room for empathy when people act up like this. Edit to add: this video was actually really cool, and linking to that Vice article really turned my mood reading about a bunch of idiots and their woe is me "I was only 21, like he had so much more life experience" - I doubt whether these fools can gather such a thing, given their inability to understand and control their motivations and actions at a grown age.. lol
@peehandshihtzu
@peehandshihtzu Жыл бұрын
This is really cool! When you introduced the temperature variable it blew my mind a bit. I mean I knew it was a factor but I did not realize it was so consistent as to be useful. Too cool Dave! :)
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@MegaJaceace
@MegaJaceace Жыл бұрын
I enjoy how you explained this. I've read books about this before and you condensed dozens of hard-to-understand pages into an easy to understand 20 minute video - bravo!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@nathanieleck6821
@nathanieleck6821 Жыл бұрын
Dave, this was far too entertaining to watch! I loved how you walked us through the process and showed us multiple factors that could have an effect on this design working as intended. Your videos are why I was able to mess around and get the best coverage I could in my spaces without having lots of bleed on the stage. Thank you again!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@kumble2687
@kumble2687 Жыл бұрын
I'd imagine it be so much fun, and amazing to see artists butting heads with engineers to create unique experiences together, amazing insight and a treasure for sharing
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
It was not butting heads, I was brought in as a specialist to solve an extreme and complex challenge. I love this stuff!
@kumble2687
@kumble2687 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveRat i think i might have used the wrong words haha, i meant colaborating
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Yes and perfect
@DaftFader
@DaftFader Жыл бұрын
"Putting their heads together" means collaborating, but "butting heads" means not agreeing. They sound very similar, but are in fact opposites heh. ;)
@johnmarkbaugbog6296
@johnmarkbaugbog6296 Жыл бұрын
Genius! I now realized that sound cancellation can be that important, Ive always thought the louder the better. Thanks Dave!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@derjuden
@derjuden Жыл бұрын
As someone that knows just a little about sound design this was a great watch and very easy to follow. Definitely gives someone an appreciation of how much work it takes to get great sound out of a performance and the issues that crop up when your just jamming more and bigger speakers into the show.
@surfinbird221
@surfinbird221 Жыл бұрын
I loved this! I remember going to that show as a aspiring PA nerd and freaking out when I saw the Anya's , was an absolute incredible show and seeing you break down the thought process behind it made it easily digestible. Thanks again and hope to see more, you are fueling dreams!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Cool cool Lucas!!
@TheAveridgeGuitarist
@TheAveridgeGuitarist Жыл бұрын
Awesome video and very articulate explanation and visualization of sound cancellation from design to final product. I've engineered for a lot of DJs in small clubs who insist on insane monitoring SPLs, it's so interesting to see the work going into the solving the complete opposite problem! Understanding acoustics makes such a difference to what we do and your videos are a great source of knowledge.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@RoySATX
@RoySATX Жыл бұрын
That was really fascinating. Admittedly I don't know all the physics but as someone who in my younger days spent a lot of time in DJ booths, with the resultant ear damage to prove it, I can appreciate the challenges involved and how more skilled engineers such as yourself should be consulted.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@thewingedpoet8658
@thewingedpoet8658 Жыл бұрын
I love the systems engineering aspect of your channel. It's so cool getting to see things I have only hypothesized about being used in practice!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@dylanreed4146
@dylanreed4146 Жыл бұрын
Insanely cool. Loved the walk through of the issues you faced and how you solved them, loved the visuals, loved the pictures!! I was at this show and the product of all that hard work was unreal. Thanks for your time and energy!!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@wilsden
@wilsden Жыл бұрын
This is so cool. i always wondered how technicians handled sound issues like these. Thank you for sharing stuff like this. What a cool job
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@robertharker
@robertharker Жыл бұрын
Oooh. An interesting case for machine learning. Real time analysis of temperature, humidity and level. Constantly adjusting delay while monitoring sound level to minimize level in the center while maintaining level in the outer ring. Machine learning (AI) doing micro adjustments in realtime and analyzing the results. Great format for the video. Helped me understand the difference between cardioid and end fire sub arrays. Keep up the good work!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Super cool Robert! Also you have access to loads of vids as a member. This has been a member only vid and am just releasing public. Check the member exclusive playlist, there are over 200 member only vids in there
@raball
@raball Жыл бұрын
You don't need AI, it's just calculus man (or experience!). Don't replace Dave with robots!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@covenantsound6774
@covenantsound6774 Жыл бұрын
Very much enjoy this format. Thanks @DaveRat . This one hit home as I am in the Birmingham area and I have worked in this arena. In 2020 just at the onset of the COVID pandemic a remodel was started to update the BJCC arena. I was brought on temporarily by a contractor for the removal of the house PA gear. I had on rope experience and rappelling certs at the time. We removed all of the installed/flown speakers and subs. I had some great video of us swinging the EV subs from the upper ring of the arena and landing them on pallets on the arena floor. It is now the Legacy Arena and significantly nicer than back in 2015. Thanks again for committing your time for us who just want to learn more!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@michaelj3725
@michaelj3725 Жыл бұрын
Dave I truly wish there could be people like you teaching as leaders in our school’s. You’re way of sharing is appreciated. Thank you
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
So cool and thank you!!
@tonmasterdigital7937
@tonmasterdigital7937 Жыл бұрын
This is burning profession, i really like your videos and the fire that you have for the things that you're doing. It is always mind opening, thanks a lot
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@faderautomation
@faderautomation Жыл бұрын
Dave that’s always interesting to see and understand from you on these kind of sub setups, also cover few Venues with flown subs aiming down towards the audience area concept
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@darkhawkwingsgt
@darkhawkwingsgt Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video! It's incredibly fascinating to hear all the challenges that you and your team had to overcome.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@Powerhauze
@Powerhauze Жыл бұрын
Awesome the way you analyze sound! Truly out of the box thinking and cool how you pull it off everytime👍🏻👍🏻 Thank you for sharing that with us, it helps a lot🙏🏼
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@chrishall4012
@chrishall4012 Жыл бұрын
I was at that show and I saw Bassnectar over 100 times from 09-2015 and this show was definitely top 5 in sound quality
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@darrylpioch2055
@darrylpioch2055 Жыл бұрын
After bassnectar cancelled himself for sexual abuse did you jump on the excision train as a substitute? Lolll
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Working with Lorin back in 2015 or so was pleasant and professional. Have not worked with him since but I'm not one to jump to conclusions or make assumptions as you may know from my tests and videos. Whatever he has or has not done to the best of my knowledge factual information is not available to us publicly at this point in time
@darrylpioch2055
@darrylpioch2055 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveRat brother he admitted to it all and cancelled all his shows bc of it. He got charged with sex trafficking, pedophilia and a couple other things. It's extremely public lol. It's about the first thing that comes up when you google bassnectar
@darrylpioch2055
@darrylpioch2055 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveRat I'm not sure about the progress on the lawsuit though. But yea it doesn't sit with the rave community and he's not gonna be able to make a comeback
@disklamer
@disklamer Жыл бұрын
Good stuff, this kind of large complex installations with specific requirements make for interesting challenges. I like how you applied the principle of cancellation to shape the sound level in different areas. Add a controller with a thermal sensor to automate the delay adjustments for ultimate overenginerding. When you mentioned 136 dB I felt a slight panic and my ears started ringing...
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@jmannUSMC
@jmannUSMC Жыл бұрын
Having pros that are willing to teach the public their craft is so great. Loved this presentation and learning more about arena sound design!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@naehh73
@naehh73 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was the best thing I've seen for I don't know how long! More xtra detail-y stuff would be much appreciated indeed.😊
@tobitweaks
@tobitweaks Жыл бұрын
incredible work
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@charliecaminiti9614
@charliecaminiti9614 Жыл бұрын
Great insight Dave! Can I have you sitting by me in my classes for audio engineering live & acoustics? 😉👍🏻
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Oh my, I did not do so great in school, I get too distracted
@okulodedio
@okulodedio Жыл бұрын
Wow, I have nothing to do with sound. But I could not stop learning from you, with ever increasing fascination. Thank you so much. 🙂
@ElvinBurnett
@ElvinBurnett Жыл бұрын
You are a wizard 🧙 of sound, Dave! Love this solution and super impressed with the implementation and monitoring/adjustment of the real time data.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@handlenotset
@handlenotset Жыл бұрын
WOW WOW WOW thats amazing! my jaw DROPPED when the center went black. incredible work dave
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Fun!
@mattc487
@mattc487 Жыл бұрын
"caused his HDD to skip" Bro even back then EVERY MOBILE DJ IN THE BASS MUSIC KNEW you would need to upgrade to an SSD I was an IDIOT and lost my music collection like 3 times over before actually doing this myself ironically enough. VERY cool explanation; def subscribed for more!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
The HDD was the back up that failed when the SSD failed but the biggest issue was his vision was blurred and could not see the computer screens. Everything was shutting down both electronic and human due to vibration
@christopherpowell274
@christopherpowell274 3 ай бұрын
This show was my first 360. I was on the floor, show was absolutely insane.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@pvanb291
@pvanb291 Жыл бұрын
More of this please!! Going from theory to real world installation, with pictures was great. If I ever have access to that many subs, I now know there's some interesting ways to deploy them!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@sammichmanjr
@sammichmanjr Жыл бұрын
I have no buisness being here but I loved this. I got chills thinking about that final description you gave about being on the riser with all the energy around you but not feeling anything. Cool video!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Wonderful and thank you for hanging out!
@user-uk6oz9wl6o
@user-uk6oz9wl6o Жыл бұрын
Really dig how you flowed thru the conceptual dilemma to the potential solutions then thru to optimal solution and onto implementation. Classic trouble shooting, Step 1 / Step 2 / Step 3 / etc... Never, Ever, Skip a Step, amazing, thanks for the insights!!!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@MinimaDomum
@MinimaDomum Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing stumbling across this video soon after I had an issue with excessive bass at my previous show over the weekend, looks like I need to try a cardioid setup next time!
@dustingay1244
@dustingay1244 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I still remember how amazing the Birmingham show was. Thank you for helping to create such an unforgettable experience.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@caracine
@caracine Жыл бұрын
Dave, a very interesting topic that you explained quite well. I like hearing how you to take care of these unique challenges. You ARE the guy! Thanks for sharing, too.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
So cool thank you Christopher!
@Lyb183
@Lyb183 Жыл бұрын
I love this so much! I tried to explain this to a dj once. This explanation is perfection. Thank you.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@berniesteer
@berniesteer Жыл бұрын
Great video Dave! Well explained and has a nice logical progression from problem to solution. I've never seen the temperature affect a cardioid subarray so drastically! And it's amazing that the theory worked out in practice so well, and that you were prepared to deal with the temp fluctuation. Bravo! Hats off to you sir. Always a pleasure watching your videos. Thank you.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Wonderful and thank you! What got me focused on temperature and it's possible effects was years ago mixing leads and reading festivals and they supplied the very first generation nexo cardioid subs. I tested out the sound system and all worked well during soundcheck but during the show I lost all of the low end and there were complaints that there was lots of low end in the production office behind stage. I put much thought into the possible cause of this and came up with a few potential causes with temperature being one of them. The other issue is non-linearities in the rear-firing out of polarity speakers.
@FOH3663
@FOH3663 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveRat Nonlinearities in the nulling subs?
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
If a set of speakers is set to null another set of speakers it is critical that both sets are driven at almost exactly the same power levels. Else, the voice could in the set driven harder will heat up faster and result in more power compression than the set driven less hard. This scenario will collapse the cancellation and can result in constantly changing significant shifts in the the coverages. Furthermore, non linearities in the peak response of drivers driven harder vs less hard can result in the lower level signals cancelling and the peaks not cancelling.
@angusarmy34
@angusarmy34 Жыл бұрын
You're a wizard man! Thank you for this video and for designing the 360 experience 🤘 these shows were nuts
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@jacoblyons531
@jacoblyons531 Жыл бұрын
Man just stumbled across your work and I have to say it's awesome you put these videos out for us to learn from your extensive knowledge. I mean you've been doing probably longer than I've been alive or close to it. What I would do to be able to sit in on you working at a show
@harrybajan9160
@harrybajan9160 9 ай бұрын
I found this interesting and absolutely astounding that such a small amount of delay made such a big difference. I am in the process of trying to tune the room that i mix in and looking to learn as much as i can from folks like yourself.
@blakehussey
@blakehussey Жыл бұрын
I love this video, I can’t wait to try the sound cancellation myself. Please continue making videos like this!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@jdub1922
@jdub1922 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd love to see more about your personal experiences on the road, stories, you know, the juicy stuff :) Thanks for this!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
🤙👍 cool, will try some more of that
@DailyHotTopic
@DailyHotTopic Жыл бұрын
Bassnectar 360 was my first live show, phenomenal experience! Thanks for the explanation on how you protected our main man Lauren 😁
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
🤙👍🤙
@miguelcraveiro
@miguelcraveiro Жыл бұрын
Shure I like this format. Very interesting and your explanation is very informative.Thank you so much for sharing those kind of experiences.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@garrettwheeler5646
@garrettwheeler5646 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this format
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
🤙👍🤙
@ShinyShinyBlack
@ShinyShinyBlack Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave - I always learn new things every time I get a chance to watch your videos, thank you!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@StereoAnthony
@StereoAnthony Жыл бұрын
I am just flabbergasted by how cool this is. Astonishing knowledge. I hope one day I'll be able to find myself in a situation where I'm able to do this. I need to learn how to do this on a smaller scale.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
🤙🤙
@homeaudiobasics
@homeaudiobasics Жыл бұрын
I saw Ghost and Volbeat end of last year and it was the cleanest loudest concert I've ever experienced. The bass was shaking the concrete in the lower bowl but didn't over power and everything was perfectly clear.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
🤙👍🤙 the way all shows should be
@libertyriotmusic
@libertyriotmusic 11 ай бұрын
This is the coolest, most practically informative audio channel I've ever seen. Thank you Dave.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat 11 ай бұрын
So cool and thank you!
@jesussavescars807
@jesussavescars807 Жыл бұрын
Your a freaking genius when it comes to sound and how it travels I never realize how much goes in to setting up a show for sound quite amazing honesty
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@jesussavescars807
@jesussavescars807 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveRat yes sir your the one who makes the whole show a show lol
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
🤙👍🤙
@Haryazz
@Haryazz Жыл бұрын
the universe entered my brain and gave me this video. amazing, thank you, on a spiritual level. Admirable Work.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!!
@Eckstant
@Eckstant Жыл бұрын
This was awesome. I really appreciate all the explanations and thought processes being laid out. Thank you for your time and the video!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@michaelmotes8994
@michaelmotes8994 Жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch your videos! Thank you for providing the information!!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@avnut5517
@avnut5517 Жыл бұрын
Can't tell you how insightful this was. This format worked great.👍
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@sonicart1808
@sonicart1808 Жыл бұрын
Incredible work Dave, I found this very interesting even though it's way outside my scope of knowledge.... thanks for being a great educator and role model.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@ReedReed999
@ReedReed999 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see more of these setup videos Dave, thanks for sharing all this knowledge with us
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
,🤙👍🤙
@hypedupdemon
@hypedupdemon Жыл бұрын
This came up in my recommended videos and was surprised to learn all the small specifics of sound design and seeing how delay can actually lower volume 😮
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@altern8nrg
@altern8nrg Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! I use cardioid sub setups as often as I can with EV ETX 18sp on-board DSP. Tweaking it and running around to hear what it sounds like everywhere is maddening and alot of legwork. I have always "walked the room" to discover and adjust the sound. I just need to embrace the tools that are already there to make this a more efficient and precise process. I need to invest in the proper gear to dial it in like you are doing.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@unmakeyourself
@unmakeyourself Жыл бұрын
This video is incredible, and it's made me realize that I'd love to learn more and possibly try to do this for a living.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
That is awesome!
@bdc-muzik
@bdc-muzik Жыл бұрын
Thank you for blessing us with your knowledge, Dave. I’m not even a sound guy per say but I love the channel, and you work is incredible and ground breaking. Salute 🫡 👍🏽👏🏽
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
So cool and thank you Brandon
@brucehartnell1475
@brucehartnell1475 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The amount of expertise is epic, figuring out changing temperatures, etc. Big league baseball players stay in the big leagues because they can hit the curveball. Dave sees the pitch before it comes out of the pitchers hand.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Honored and thank you
@bamapatriot205
@bamapatriot205 Жыл бұрын
I live in Birmingham and have never seen this type PA application at the BJCC.UNREAL. Great Job Sir!!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@kieranniemand2939
@kieranniemand2939 Жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff Dave! Keep em coming! 💪
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@Bobbybobby1
@Bobbybobby1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome to see this behind the scenes, takes me back to my physics of sound course!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@caseykittel
@caseykittel Жыл бұрын
Dave, every now and then I see a video that I wish I could give a 10x like to. This is it for me. Thank you so much!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@Whitey831
@Whitey831 Жыл бұрын
Sick video brother. That show sounded fantastic that year.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@smellycat249
@smellycat249 Жыл бұрын
Omg you make a shockwave. This is amazing! Thank you for sharing this
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@pigasusr2
@pigasusr2 Жыл бұрын
This is the coolest KZfaq video I’ve seen in ages!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@ShannonLandsberger
@ShannonLandsberger Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent breakdown of the information. Thanks for the great video Dave.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@JT__Media
@JT__Media Жыл бұрын
These 360 nectar shows were Wild
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@Shaggy0f138
@Shaggy0f138 Жыл бұрын
Great work and explanation of how to get sound where you want it to be and also where you don't. Thanks for sharing this.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@housemana
@housemana Жыл бұрын
hey dave. . . this is a long shot most likely geographically speaking, but you wouldnt by chance have been the designer/engineer for lorin when he came to the key arena for bumbershoot 2014. or 2015 - where the crew and him set a key arena first and blew a mainline fuse the squad went THAT hard. ive been to hundreds of shows at the key now and the bins were going full gale and then some. operations went to the fuse box and repaired the fuse quick in and out and the rig was throwing bassweight within probably a handful of minutes of wait time for them to safely perform the repair. a golden memory. appreciate all yall do plus anyone with that big a portrait of their doggo is good people in my book mate. big up that too D stay warm out there ty again ⚡
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
I was renting gear to BN back then but not as involved with design yet
@John-the-Bass
@John-the-Bass Жыл бұрын
A great explanation, thanks. You are a very experienced audio engineer. The DJ should have been very pleased. I learnt a lot, thanks again
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@camsterdam420
@camsterdam420 Жыл бұрын
Very cool to see behind the scenes from one of the best shows I've ever been to!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
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@jungillestt02
@jungillestt02 Жыл бұрын
I've always been so fascinated by sound production/design and as for someone who like to dj as well things like this blow my mind. My gf gets annoyed by all the speakers I have and always tweaking with them for the perfect sound especially when it comes to bass, phasing ect. Very interesting stuff. Bassnectar is such a throw back, I remember seeing him for his Into the Sun album. 🤙🏼
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
🤙👍🤙 we need lots of speakers
@jungillestt02
@jungillestt02 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveRat hell yeah 🙌🏼
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍😃
@markonw6661
@markonw6661 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, as an engineer and fan of acoustics this was awesome…great stuff, subbed.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Cool cool Marko!!
@kid.forever
@kid.forever Жыл бұрын
Class is in session! A brilliant way to solve a problem explained with ease. 🤘
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Awesome and thank you!
@neuztec
@neuztec Жыл бұрын
THis was so rad, thanks Dave! Great ideas. I am designing a bass-bed for an ambient soundbath gig, using 9 x 18" yorkville parasource bass bins with mats ontop so listeners can lay on the bins for the sound bath in the middle of a quadraphonic top end thinking about cardioid to concentrate the pressure levels in the middle, so reverse of what you did here this was very helpful in my thinking. best wishes from west coast canada..
@michaelshultz2540
@michaelshultz2540 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago i had a portable disco. And used cerwin vega tunnel reflex sub and to isolate my turntables i set them on a small waveless demonstration model waterbed matress. I never had any problem with sub feedback to my platers both were dual 721 direct drive. This is incredible what you are doing with modern tech. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
That is cool thank you!
@michaelshultz2540
@michaelshultz2540 Жыл бұрын
@Dave Rat the mattress was the kind that was a single piece like a traditional waterbed with vertical tube baffling inside that made it resemble an inner spring mattress. I've tried it with a pet waterbed that had a fiber inside for baffling and did not get the same result.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
So cool, putting a damped fluid in the per be could help. Or adding some tichener to the water that is not biological and won't mold.
@michaelshultz2540
@michaelshultz2540 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveRat like glycol thickened with cellulose. Like x-lube.
@michaelshultz2540
@michaelshultz2540 Жыл бұрын
You would have to experiment with the thickness so you dont have a resonant mass at the wrong fq
@rhythmatician4411
@rhythmatician4411 Жыл бұрын
What cool video!! Fascinating solution to the problem. It would expect it to work in theory, but to accomplish it in reality is inspiring.
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
🤙👍🤙
@jesseowens4652
@jesseowens4652 Жыл бұрын
This was amazing Dave! Great story!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@Durosai
@Durosai Жыл бұрын
Wow thats awesome, lovely setup and coverage. Thanks for sharing!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@lerrynhawke3375
@lerrynhawke3375 Жыл бұрын
Love this format!!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
👍🤙👍
@JoshCarlsonftw
@JoshCarlsonftw Жыл бұрын
Dave, you're just the coolest sound human. Such a wealth of knowledge and passion for sharing it with the world. I love you, man
@JoshCarlsonftw
@JoshCarlsonftw Жыл бұрын
P. S. This format is great. Please continue!
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Awesome and. Thank you Josh!
@dn544
@dn544 Жыл бұрын
It was a show i will never forget
@DaveRat
@DaveRat Жыл бұрын
Love that!!
@cbparker44
@cbparker44 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Love the technical stuff.
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