Batman Forever treated Robin pretty decently, but Batman and Robin just made him a whiny baby obsessed with hooking up with a villain for most of the runtime. It's kinda sad.

Robin was terrible

Will you love it... Forever??

@@darrellcovello7917 I will

The soundtrack was banging. That U2 song is catchy af

If they had taken out Robin and Two Face the movie would have been amazing

I agree people give it to much hate

I still love Batman Forever, and I’d love to see the Schumacher cut. I’m certain that a version of the film without all of the cartoon sound effects added over the fights and with the original order of events restored would be well received. It might even result in it being reevaluated as not being the same shallow rubbish that was Batman & Robin. I really think there’s some good depth to the story with the duality of Bruce Wayne/Batman juxtaposed with the dichotomy of Two-Face, with Bruce being able to accept his two halves where Two-Face can’t. The only weak link is IMHO Tommy Lee Jones, who seemed to be competing with Carrey to see who could go the most over the top. He seemed to forget in most scenes that Two-Face should have two personalities, not just one loud one. If there really is a Schumacher cut, I hope there are some alternate takes of TLJ where he does play up the duality of the part.

You can always tell who the people were when the movie in question comes out . They call it 'underrated '. They dont realize that this movie was the smash of the summer of '95.

@@daveyboy_ im not talking box office im talking about critical reception which especially these days people dont look back at this with too much fondness.

@@thabreez456 who cares about the critics? It didn't make that much money because people thought it sucked .

It was actually meant to be much darker, closer to Returns. WB forced it through many cuts. One of the things we lose is Two Face’s character arc. Harvey was Gotham’s leading DA and was Batman’s friend, helping to clear his name of the whole Penguin situation from Batman returns. After that, Batman asked Harvey to meet him on a rooftop. Harvey wanted to retire and settle down but Batman didn’t let him, saying that they are two sides of the same coin. Batman promised Harvey that as a reward for staying DA, Batman would protect him NO MATTER WHAT. We all know what happened after that and Two Face was sent to prison for Two years until he escaped by killing a prison guard, by getting him to play double or nothing, where Two Face’s coin landed on the bad side and he said nothing means you don’t even get to live. Throughout the book, Batman feels guilty about what happened and at the circus instead of saying I’m Batman was going to say something he had mentioned to Dent at the rooftop and actively tries to stop Harvey by throwing a gun to his head, hoping it will distract him from flipping the coin at the circus. Not only is Batman sympathetic to Harvey but Two Face follows his coin much more in this version, not minding when the good side turns up. He even tried to kill Riddler at one point after Face thought that he had successfully killed Batman. The infamous coin toss scene is still in there but as Face clearly explains “For each time Batman and chase pass me, it’s a new chance to kill him, requiring a new toss”. Finally, Face dies differently and it was Dent that chooses the death. After the “you’ve always been a good friend” line, Harvey flips and Batman still feeling guilty only uses something to knock the coin off tangent. Face catches it but before he can flip again to see what is the accurate result, Robin says he acts as though the coin is making the decisions for him and asks him to flip for himself. Face does and WITHOUT looking at the outcome smiles at Robin, says “you owe us one sunny!” and kills himself, making as what Batman says is the first real decision he’s made in years. If you want to see what this film could have been, pick up the Batman Forever book by Peter David.

Schumaher actually wanted to do just that, but the studio refused because McDonalds.

@@Jose-se9pu Like how Joe Dante wanted "Small Soldiers" to be darker and edgier but couldn't because of Burger King.

If two-face would have hated working with the riddler as much as Tommy Lee Jones hated working with Jim Carrey the dynamic would have been so much more fun to watch.

Let's not forget here that Tommy Lee Jones only did this to make his son happy I don't think his heart was in it.

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Same here. I watched it so many times on VHS.

Will you love it... Forever?

It's alright for what it is the movie is a easy fast watch its fun Jim Carry is funny Joknes is mostly enjoyable and Val Kilmer is alright with Robin being fin the film is a perfectly watchable alright family film for adults to watch with kids.

I have the Batman collection on DVD. And yes, that includes the abomination that is Batman and Robin.

The fact he looks SO bored when he is without the mask seems to be intentional.

What’s underrated about it? It grossed a profit & people loved it at the time

@@Bingo_the_Pug yes but there are some people who compare batman forever to batman and Robin which isn't true

Except he wasnt

Blame the studio for that. WB deemed the camp elements to be what made Batman Forever a hit. Tey were also still afraid of being too dark after the Batman Returns fiasco, which is why the best content got cut from the film. So in their rather ignorant logic, they wanted the next film to double down on camp with non of that annoying dark themed stuff at all. They also got greedy over the huge toy sales of Batman Forever, so they demanded that Joel make the film more "toyetic". Selling toys became more important. Joel did as he was ordered to do. WB was at the height of their ignorance during the 1990s.

It was junk and Carrey chewed the scenery.

Seal's Kiss From A Rose makes this film worth existing

Here in Australia McDonalds had a promotion featuring glass mugs of the characters.

The Robin Williams story I was familiar with, and also consider it to be so sad. I would have preferred Gibson and Williams have gotten those parts, first. Such missed opportunities.