God I miss Schnepp, I revisit this review all the time because its so entertaining watching him talk about comic book movies.

Batman v Superman *Superman Is Dead (Front page of the newspaper) *Daily Planet Writer Clark Kent Dead (Second page) Justice League Part 1 *Superman Lives! (Front page) *Daily Planet Writer Clark Kent also comes back from the dead! (Second page)

It's been over a year and Schnepp's rant of this film is still GOLD.

This movie had like three endings. You kept thinking it was going to end, and then it went into another ending.

I interpreted Lex knowing about Darkseid at the end as a result of him messing with the Kryptonian ship.

john schenpp went all out holy shit

I will always remember Schnepp for his straight up take on the movie. Stay sweaty up there, man!

Man these dudes probably hated the font size of the ending credits.

Schnepp is 100% right.

Schnepp seems like he was so hyped for BvS that it couldn't live up to his expectations. so he was underwhelmed and disappointed. Ellis didn't like man of steel so it makes sense that he would be underwhelmed by BvS. Campea liked man of steel so it makes sense why he would like BvS. don't really know what to say about Dennis. everyone seems to love Ben Affleck as Batman so that's a good thing.

RIP Schnepp. I miss how passionate he was. This was one of his all time great rants.

The guy on our left with the Einstein hair was spot on 👌🏼

Tell em Schnepp. Totally agree. It's a fun movie with problems. I actually forget that Superman dies at the end. And I've seen it twice already. No weight

dude with the glasses and white fro went OFF lol. hes absolutely right about everything

I don't hate it as much as Schnepp seems too, but every criticism he has I pretty much agree with, it is a very divisive film indeed.

Good old days of collider. RIP Schnepp

I thought the scene where Martha was said over and over was a parallelism to him as a kid when he wanted to protect his parents from a bad man and was powerless. When he has his boot on Superman and is about to kill him he hears Lois Lanes explanation and realizes that at that moment he was basically Joe Chill

did no-one hear the ship tell Lex Luther.. that it had knowledge of over 100,000 planets.. 😕 then Lex said teach me it all. 😑😑😑 this is how he finds out about Darksied

Schnepp is right. everyone is here.

I had tears in my eyes when Clark pleased to Bruce to save Martha. It humanized Clark in a way that Bruce was invaluable of seeing. He was older and tired and had lost Robin. He lost his humanity. You take a man who is so haunted and cracked by the loss of mother and father that when he heard that name years later, it stirs him out of his rage. Batman promises Superman that Martha won't die tonight. He has a chance to make sure Clark never goes through what he went through, all those years ago. It was so powerful to me. I love how Bruce ruminates on his legacy and how he wants his legacy to be having saved the world from an alien menace by killing Superman. Now, his legacy will be saving the world from an alien menace by assembling the Meta-Humans and creating the Justice League.

If they called this movie Dawn of Justice and scrapped the whole BvS thing, it would have made expectations a lot easier to set.

i'm with Schnepp

The editing and story line was just mosh posh, and lex luther was just a wannabe Joker...

The reason Batman killed those guys was to save Superman's mother. He had neither the time or patience to be gentle with them.

Campea V. Schnepp: Dawn of Opinions

guy in glasses on the left has this film spot on.

Schnepp representing the reality-based community like a boss Murderman v Captain Hypocrite: Rush to the Justice League

I can't keep hearing about Superman's motivation for fighting Batman. He DOESN'T want to fight him, nor kill him for that matter. He tries to reason with him but Batman won't have any of it. Superman then receives a proper beating, his motivation was never going to be "I have to kill th evigilante"

I'm usually in Schnepp's camp most of the time, but here I see a guy who genuinely loved Batman and Superman comics growing up. Thought the movie was going to be a certain way. Then it wasn't. From then on, he just couldn't see the movie in front of him because he was so disappointed. Schnepp! I was just like you. I was so distraught after that first watch. Watch it again and realise that it's not nearly as bad. Lots of Love, Fellow Sweaty

Zac Snyder should be hired just to direct the actions scenes !

Recall what Max Landis said, don't confuse fan rationalization for narrative justification.

Jon Schnepp is 100% right.

I'm shocked how wrong they all are, except Campea. I just saw it and half their complaints were explained in the film.

Thanks for letting Schnepp go off on his rant, a lot of that needed saying

Schnepps passing, I need to watch this again lol. Remember and love this so much. RIP our sweaty king

Love schnepp. But it seems this film really hurt him emotionally. I disagree that it's as horrible as he says. He's hating on this film more than amazing spider man 2. And this film is superior than a lot of comic book films.

I'm with John, I loved it even though it was messy.

They couldn't end the movie without showing Sups been alive because they need to show him in the marketing for Justice League part 1, or at least part 1.

Completly agree with Schnep here, by the time the action came i was to bored to care. It was so disjointed and all ove the place. I found it frustrating to watch. And I loved man of steel

The opening credits of the film was the best part of the film to me. No words were used with the exception of 'Martha' at the end. Just using visuals and music to evoke emotion and to illustrate batman's origin, was perfect!

Schnepp rant. Love it.

When Gal came on as Wonder Woman & the guitar kicks in boy I had goosebumps, fantastic.

i agree with john schnep

Wonder Woman looking through the email files should've been a mid-credits scene.

if i'm not mistaken, keaton's batman kill criminal too...

Love the panel, but Dennis and Campea are the only ones that made legitimate arguments.

Everything schnepp said was dead on

tell Snepp that Lex got access to the Kryptonian archives and that's how he knew about dark side

The crew: they didn't explain this. Campea: yes they did, there was this, this and this line. The crew: well I don't buy it. Maybe pay attention to what's happening in the movie? John seems to listen.

Totally respect all of you but Schepp is totrally correct. This movie was DC' Comics best chance to catch up with Marvel but they fell way short. As a big Marvel fan I was hoping for better.

love Schnepp's review/logical explanation about the movie.

John Campea CRUSHING the rebuddles. haha. Loved the film!

Campea is such a smart guy with great and deeply thought opinions. Respect!

God this talk is fucking informative and real. From every spoiler review , this is by far the best I've ever listen to. rooting on you guys, keep it up! wished it's a little bit longer.

Lex knows about Darkseid from the ship!! The ship tells him they have archives of over 100,000 systems and Lex tells the ship to tell him "everything" ! God damn guys, watch the damn movie.

For the first time I'm actually agreeing with Campea and not Schnepp. Also, pretty sure they established superman's motive for fighting Batman.

Schnepp we do know how Lex knows about Darkseid and it's when he was in Zod's ship and overrode the system and asked to be taught about all the data the ship collected throughout the galaxy...

everything I think about this movie Schepp got it right.

"How does Lex know about all this stuff?" Did nobody pay attention when he went into the Kryptonian Genesis Chamber and the computer said something to the effect of "We have all kinds of knowledge about the entire universe...wanna read it?" and lex was like "Totes" Jesus H Fuck y'all need to chill out and actually pay attention to the movie

Dude schnepp just goes straight up ranting when they told him what were his positive of the movie. Lol

Martha thing makes sense. He realised that Superman was actually a man. It was a sweet moment imo.

Damn Schepp went OFF!!

I couldn't fully articulate how i felt about this film until i heard Schnepp's opinion. He nailed it.

Dude when schnepp does not give a movie a 10/10 he really brings the mood of the converstaion down

Schnepp with the justified nerd rage

RIP SCHNEPP!!!! best rant ever

its hilarious how Schnepp or whatever started off like "meh" to outright hating it.

They totally abandoned their feud because both their mother's names are Martha? I'm still confused.....

I actually walked in the theatre expecting Superman would be dead. The Death of Superman storyline was actually suggested by revealing Doomsday in the trailer and I found the release date is close to Easter, an event where another "alien" died for the sake of humanity.

Schnepp summed it all up in one word: Sloppy. Sure, the action and visuals are great but Snyder have never disappointed on that regard. A turd is still a turd in fancy gift wrapping. A horribly written and paced movie turd. I already had low expectations from all the bad reviews before watching the thing. Unfortnatelly it turned out even worse than I imagined.

Yeah i'd give it a 6 and a half too. Out of a 1000 that is.

4:10 sums up this movie well. Thank you Schnepp.

It was too choppy but I agree with Campea. I thought the positives outweighed the negatives. I liked it.

I'm glad you enjoy it! Thanks for the shoutout!

"I loved how he dissolved back into his hair. Like a Pantene commercial!" XD

This movie deserves less than 30% that got on RT. What was WW's purpose in this movie?? It would've been absolutely the same without her. Why did Lex had to kidnap Martha? Batman and Superman would've fought anyway. He didn't know that ,but it made no sense to me. The fight between Batman and Superman had no weight like at all. They didn't fight because of any ideological differences , but cause they think the other one is a douchebag.If they had like one minute conversation the fight would've been unnecessary.Which brings me to my other point. Captain America and Iron Man had more screen time and dialogue in a movie about the Avengers than Batman and Superman had in a movie called Batman v Superman. And the Avengers had Thor,Hulk,Black Widow,Hawkeye ,Loki and Nick Fury. What did BvS had? Lois Lane , 12-13 lines from WW and 30 seconds clips from Cyborg, the Flash and Aquaman... worst cameos in history.Doomsday was absolutely wasted.This movie also shits on Superman big time. Why does he threatens Batman straight away? What did he do to him? He gives him crap about him being too brutal ,but the first thing Superman does in this movie is flat out kill a guy.. WTF?The only purpose of this scene is to make Batman angrier.His death had no impact whatsoever.There is no conflict between Batman and Superman it's just misundestanding , that's why from Batman being ready to kill him went to Batman being his best friend in about 10 seconds.. Overall disappointment. This movie shoul've been much more. And im no Marvel fan , Superman and Batman are my 1 and 2 and that is not what they deserved. Batman is badass there's no doubt about that, but he is a murderer as well. He kills people without any explanation.That's my opinion.If you like this movie, than Im glad for you, cause I didn't and by the looks of it many others share my opinion. 5/10

Clearly John was the only one paying attention during the movie lol

you earn mi interest on your opinion about the DCU since your Man of Steel talk. I loved it, and I loved this talk. your channel is awesome guys!

Schnepp you know Batman is the one who sent her the hard drive

Superman resurrection, getting a little more obvious with the Jesus parallels are we?

I don't know what you all talking bout. this movie is epic!!!!

Came back to watch this bc of Schnepp RIP the King of sweat

Also, this video is amazing. All your points are clear and concise. Good review

Film Press on Batman v Superman: It’s NOT the shitty Justice League cartoon that I remember! It’s NOT a Christopher Nolan film! Superman doesn’t save any cats from trees! It’s NOT the Batman that I liked from that amazing Joel Schumacher film! Lex Luthor isn’t campy or want real estate! What? Real Wonder Womenz have “Curves”! ONLY Ledger is allowed to be cray-cray, yo! Still, while flawed (as most films are), it's still perfectly enjoyable. I'd give it a solid B+.

5:25 Lex wants Superman dead because he's jeakous of Superman's power. Lex thought power was being able to do what you want and pay your way out of trouble. But he sees Superman doesn't need any of that because of what he can do and now no amount of cash can buy him out of trouble because Supes isn't corruptable by cash.

So did they completely forget that Lex Luther got all of his knowledge from the Kryptonian ship??

This is why I love Campea. He understands this fuckin' movie.

We're gonna complain about a massive fight in an unpopulated area when all people did was complain about the fight in Metropolis from Man of Steel?.......? Huh?

9.5/10 for me. I absolutely loved this film! When I left the theatre, the only thing I was baffled about was how it got such a negative reaction. It even surpassed Watchmen to become my all time favorite comic book movie. Such a great film and I can't wait to see the extended cut when it comes out.

I've seen this Movie 2 weeks later. I give this Movie an 8 out of 10. I like it 👍

The scene where Superman says Martha and then there are a brief sequence of flashbacks to Bruce's mom also showed that Bruce realizes he and Supes are more similar than he thought. Bruce realizes that Superman's mom still has a chance to live while his mom didn't. In a way Bruce took this as an opportunity to save his own mom symbolically. That's why he told superman "I promise Martha isn't dying today" and then goes ham on the bad guys.

Batman V Superman fights > Any fight from Nolan trilogy.

thank you campea for trying to show these "critics" why this movie is getting unnecessary criticism. this movie is not nearly as bad as people think and I'm getting sick of ppl downing it for no reason.

I really miss this team together! 🙌 Those were the days! 😭

Great review guys. Totally appreciate all of your takes

I completely agree with Campea loved the movie despite its flaws

I really freaking enjoyed this movie!!! 😁😁 Now I did go in to this with moderate expectations and I totally agree with you guys about the lacking character motivations (Besides Batman) and writing issues, but overall I left the theater excited and pumped! Did not see the Death of Superman coming but all in all I think it worked in the general tone of the film and the world motivation of this DCEU. Especially how it sets up Justice League Part 1. Hopefully Sydner can pull it off, not worried about his visual direction tho. All the visuals were intense and crips. I was never lost in all the action and debris. Now I was really worried about the DC cinematic universe because I didn't really like Man of Steel. But really loved all the set up in BvS. Seeing the Flash in that future Vision was intense and mystifying. And every single Gal Gadot scene as Wonder Woman was FANTASTIC!!! I even enjoyed Alexander Luther (He's not Lex Luther to me) and agree with Campea. His motivation wasn't fleshed out but it was there. I was lost for a second with the darkside "ping ping ping" but you guys cleared that up so thanks ^.^ in the End the DCEU has a very different tone than the MCU and I appreciate that. As a Comic book fan it felt as if some scenes hopped right out of the page and onto the big screen. Hopefully Zach Snyder does get a co-director for story flow cause the Resurrection of Suerman story could get wonky. But I'm pumped for what the DCEU has to offer!! I rate BvS 7.0/10 👌🏾👌🏾

Schnepp v Campea: Dawn of Review

THIS is a great, great episode... Such a great point of view discussion of negatives vs positives. WELL done by all.

FYI - At 23:48 Schnepp corrects Campea on his description of "Clark Kent's" funeral incorrectly. Campea did say "Kent's" funeral, not Batman's funeral.