Batman vs Bruce Wayne

Batman vs Bruce Wayne | Batman: Ego

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@jakegittes1864 2 жыл бұрын

Just saw The Batman and Matt Reeves wasn’t kidding when he said Bruce’s arc in the film was inspired by this book. Batman learns that he cannot just be the scary vigilante fueled by vengeance who’s feared by criminals and that he had to evolve into a symbol of hope for the innocent people of Gotham. Good stuff. Wish Darwyn Cooke could’ve seen it.

@comictalk95 3 жыл бұрын

In the fandome interview Matt reeves mentions this book has one of his favorite Batman books.

@comicpop 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone knows that. It's literally where we know it from in the episode. The point is it's not exactly something you can translate on screen.

@mero7731 3 жыл бұрын

@@comicpop yeah but you said you were trying to find it

@mero7731 3 жыл бұрын

@@aurahoneydew9607 ego is considered obscure

@mero7731 3 жыл бұрын

@@aurahoneydew9607 i mean that’s when reeves was brought on so I guess it is credible?

@normansmith9009 3 жыл бұрын

@@aurahoneydew9607 my friend, Ego is obscure, rarely will you find it any top 10 stories. I’m happy that Reeves read this.

@Grievousish 3 жыл бұрын

If any book was gonna be called Batman Ego it should have been All Star Batman and Robin. Cause you need a real swelled head to call yourself the "goddamn Batman"

@uglynerd8764 3 жыл бұрын

MHM, technically the book you are referencing should be All star batman and robin the boy wonder by Frank miller, All star batman is a book by Scott snyder in which the titular character doesn't say that line.

@Grievousish 3 жыл бұрын

@@uglynerd8764 I have corrected my error, thank you

@fragile4408 3 жыл бұрын

14:57 Silly sal. It’s December. The entire MONTH IS CHRISTMAS

@zacharywalker4369 3 жыл бұрын

I love that Cooke uses Freud’s concepts of id, ego, and superego to explain Batman’s psyche. The “fear” persona represents id, the primal selfish nature of bruce wanting vengeance for his parents. The superego represents the “humanitarian” persona, that is Bruce’s best self of accepting the loss of his parents and moving on without Batman. The ego is the middle ground of the two personas that give us the actual Bruce Wayne/Batman. This allows his fear persona to exist but also allows Bruce to hold on to a code and do good as a humanitarian too. That’s my interpretation anyway.

@daelen.cclark 2 жыл бұрын

Nice way to look at it. I’m starting to see it like that, too.

@stankovicf 3 жыл бұрын

My favorite Batman comic. I will never not miss Darwyn though.

@brikkboyz22studiosextra Жыл бұрын

me too, bud. me too. may he rest in peace.

@uncannyhumantorch3704 2 жыл бұрын

the symbol of hope thing is what i think robat battinbat was talking about where he got his inspiration for the character

@dannycarmack2044 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, the Batman was more of an interpretation of this story. When Batman is helping people out of the flood with the first responders, it’s the same as Batman calling Gordon at the end of this story. Acknowledging what he has to be to continue this journey

@HollowGolem 3 жыл бұрын

Regarding the Catwoman design that you mentioned at the end, I seem to recall an interview where Cooke said that he never would have put that zipper at the front of her costume if he knew nobody would zip the thing up. That design came from the Ed Brubaker Catwoman run, which Cooke did art for, and started as backups in Greg Rucka's first run on Detective Comics.

@Volvagia1927 3 жыл бұрын

I mean...had he seen comic book art...? If there's a justification for sleaze (however threadbare), they'll take it. With certain artists, even if there ISN'T, they still might. Sexy Dead, Not a Zombie, Scarlet Witch in Ultimates 3, anyone...?

@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 3 жыл бұрын

This story is basically Batman having all this stress, and Bruce assuages his fears by putting a comforting hand on his shoulder, and telling him "Leggo, my Ego." W-why are you looking at me like that? Why do you look like you're looking at some sort of pitiful creature?

@uglynerd8764 3 жыл бұрын

wow buddy never thought I'd see you on this side of town, I see you appreciate the western side of picture based books as well.

@NihilisticBallman 3 жыл бұрын

I always found it weird that I see you on very popular sometimes meme videos but your also on Comic Pop.

@anthonymarciano6050 3 жыл бұрын

I have seen this guy on basically every video i have ever watched

@thegloriouswizard5270 2 жыл бұрын

KEK!

@priceyyeti4058 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, I've never heard of this. "This is a pure Batman story by Darwyn Cooke." And now I'm going to pause the video, buy the book, and skip Back Issues this week to read it unspoiled. Edit: Read it, loved it, love the episode just as much.

@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 3 жыл бұрын

Yeti! It's been a while!

@priceyyeti4058 3 жыл бұрын

@@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache Haven't really thought of anything interesting to say for a while now. Just been hanging on the sidelines, waiting for that wit to occur once more.

@postRTFfailure 2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting, now that we’re on the other side of The Batman being released, that Reeves was able to use this as the foundation for Bruce’s/Batman’s revelation that he must be a symbol of hope rather than represent vengeance in its most brutal form. Kinda funny how Sal mentioned they never would incorporate anything from Ego’s “story” into the movie (I know you mean literal plot points), but somehow the most important piece of Bruce’s growth takes seemingly direct inspiration from this.

@anothercleverusername992 2 жыл бұрын

Ben's idea of the Batman creature being out of breath and worn out after the big display, cracked me up SO hard! So funny. I love this damned channel.

@ninja1man4u 3 жыл бұрын

Imitates M bison from the street fighter cartoon: "YES !!!!!"

@ToonGal12 3 жыл бұрын

2:00 Wait. So you're telling me that we're witnessing the murder of the Waynes at the beginning of every James Bond film?!

@DanV900 3 жыл бұрын

One thing I appreciate with Batman: Ego is that Darwyn Cooke considers it “an earnest yet flawed first effort.” He was willing to be critical of his own work and I also miss him calling out other artists for not getting work out on time. He is the best cartoonist in comics history and you can’t change my mind.

@Insane-Howl-Cowl 3 жыл бұрын

Back issues is something I look forward to every week. Seeing this reminds me so much of how I would hang out with my friends years ago and talk about comics like this. Thank you Comic Pop for another year of great stories, and the inspiration it has given me to work on my own projects. You've made 2020 so much better.

@Insane-Howl-Cowl 3 жыл бұрын

I remember picking up this book years ago, and finding it interesting but weird all the same.

@roccoborghetti4693 3 жыл бұрын

Darwyn is the ultimate comic book writer and artist. And Ego, like the New Frontier, is just another immaculate example.

@mikesetzer9379 3 жыл бұрын

Bruce Wayne’s psychology exploration is my favorite part about Batman. It’s so reliable how we separate ourselves from things and attach ourselves to other things to find strength in tragedy. Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stranger

@TommyBaysMusic 3 жыл бұрын

Happy anniversary Sal and Tiffany! Love getting Back Issues early in the day so I can watch and listen before work! Thank you to the whole ComicPop! crew for all that you all do! Grateful for all your hard work.

@luffytaro-jg5ow 2 жыл бұрын

Wait they are married?

@LogantheSloth 3 жыл бұрын

EGO is in my top 3 favorite Batman stories. The discussion between Bruce & the monstrous Batman is by far the best psychological exploration of the character ever. It's also just really well written and the artwork is beautiful, it flows so well that I need to see it animated!

@chrisdaily2077 3 жыл бұрын

Me starting this: neat Darwyn Cooke. This is just going to be like the Animated Series "He kills his family to save them from the Joker's wrath and then kills himself" Me: perhaps I should have read the comic before letting my little brother watch this

@dorseyerik 3 жыл бұрын

Year 4 is "My best friend is an alien"

@Omar-wq9dz 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, a Darwyn Cooke story. Just curious, any future Back Issues on Darwyn Cooke stories? I would be interested in seeing you do one on his comic adaptation of Richard Stark's The Hunter

@DanV900 3 жыл бұрын

The problem is that it wouldn’t do well no matter how great it was.

@dlvnmedia 3 жыл бұрын

@@DanV900 @omar94 I would love to see his DC Conics run of the Spirit covered.

@ItsOver9000Productions 3 жыл бұрын

Darwyn Cooke is always a plus. RIP.

@dylanlewis5113 3 жыл бұрын

RIP Darwyn Cooke.

@comixproviderftw_02 3 жыл бұрын

I remember reading this when I was 9 at the library and it blew my mind and changed my perception of the Batman character outside of the TAS version.

@padrehernandez188 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if that's where this whole concept of "escalation"(batman begins) or batman inspiring his villains originated.. possibly in The long Halloween?

@grayson3347 3 жыл бұрын

31:10 BRUCE WAYNE I'M NOT SOME CONJURER OF CHEAP TRICKS!!

@questions2493 3 жыл бұрын

Have you been told that the bullet perspective has already been taken in one shot of Batman Gotham Knight episode "Deadshot" from 2008 yet?

@ItsOver9000Productions 3 жыл бұрын

This is such a great story. So that means next week you should do Batman Odyssey to remind us comics are crap sometimes too lol

@jakegittes1864 2 жыл бұрын

I think people took it too literally thinking beat for beat. *EGO* was Matt Reeves’ influence for Batman/Bruce Wayne’s characterization rather than the plot and story of the film. The main and major theme and idea of this book is Bruce confronting his shadow self, his one rule to not murder, and how he learned that he had to transform from just being a scary vigilante who hunts criminals to a symbol of hope for the innocent people of Gotham. It’s more about how Pattinson’s character was written and his arc in the film instead of the plot of the book.

@comicpop 2 жыл бұрын

@soupkid8268 2 жыл бұрын

"Not a shred of this will be in the movie." Oh man. He was CLOSE.

@austinmeghu 3 жыл бұрын

Always loved this book. Rip Darwyn Cooke

@Sqoobthedude 3 жыл бұрын

That perfect cut of "eh eh eh sure"

@jamesc2889 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see this happen in the movie. I would also want to see a proper robin introduced in a batman movie

@willknight685 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I love self contained stories. I feel like there’s a safety to them for writers and artists and if I had a choice I’d make a label strictly for stand alone stories. (What black label could’ve been) great video guys keep up the GREAT work

@MammothBehemoth 3 жыл бұрын

Batman is basically Green Goblin now

@SergeantPancake 3 жыл бұрын

God, these Batman deconstruction comics always blow my mind. Never heard of this one, thanks so much guys!

@squishyty918 2 жыл бұрын

12:13 This is exactly what I’m like at every social event

@corbettduncan2913 3 жыл бұрын

It’s close enough to Christmas to consider this a Christmas edition episode

@Night221Shadow 3 жыл бұрын

I know about this book because it’s by Darwyne Cook, who will forever be one of the greats. He’s just a monster with every page.

@aristosachaion_ 2 жыл бұрын

Literally just finished reading Ego (haven't finished the other stories yet) and it's such a brilliant dive into the Batman and Bruce Wayne dynamic. Essential reading, in my opinion, alongside Year One and The Long Halloween + Dark Victory.

@samchafin4623 3 жыл бұрын

That looks like a really great book. The art is great; it says something interesting; most importantly, it avoids the bloat so often associated with comics.

@DanV900 3 жыл бұрын

The closest adaptation we will ever get to Batman: Ego is honestly Birdman which still isn’t a great comparison besides just watching My Dinner with Andre as the main influence.

@g-mandacomicfan350 3 жыл бұрын

I read this after that Reeves interview about it being an inspiration for the movie and thought it was good, I really like it more after watching you guys talk about it. Discussion really helps with a trippy book like this.

@TevyaSmolka 3 жыл бұрын

This story sounds really interesting and honestly if Matt Reeves does take inspiration from this story I would be all for that.

@aidanmartin546 3 жыл бұрын

I've been listening and watching for a few years. So happy to see this episode. I love this story so much. Thank you guys. Big massive love to the 4 horsemen/woman of the comicpopalpse

@Martin_TheCollector 3 жыл бұрын

Such a great story!! R.I.P. Darwyn.

@coopersheridan73 3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE DARWYN COOKE!! Thank you for finally getting around to Batman:Ego!

@adamoswald1789 3 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to say thanks guys .Back issues always makes a day better .

@playwithalfred7113 3 жыл бұрын

No one correcting you here, just a fan who has lots of fun watching you guys and appreciates your work. Keep making what you do comic pop crew!

@bahbah52 3 жыл бұрын

It’s been so long since I’ve watched one of these 👀 fantastic!

@jlev1028 2 ай бұрын

I read this comic today, and it's fantastic. I love the psychological conflict between Bruce and Batman. We've never seen the two persobas have a heart-to-heart conversation over their roles in Gotham and whether their accomplishments matter. Darwin Cook's BTAS style is also fantastic and helps draw in the atmosphere. Overall, Batman: Ego's probably one of the character's best comics and should be recommended to all.

@JoshMunroe 3 жыл бұрын

Darwyne Cooke, man... gone way too soon.

@kurtoogle4576 3 жыл бұрын

Great show! Thank you!

@nathancrump401 3 жыл бұрын

Lol I have a friend me and him watch this show all the time it’s like his dream to be on that couch with y’all talking about this stuff🤣🤣🤣🤣

@IzzysIssues 9 ай бұрын

I completely zoned out for this entire episode so I'll have to return and watch it in the future but still wanted to leave comment engagement

@MrNewguy456 3 жыл бұрын

Really dig this ep, great work guys!

@joaosturza 3 жыл бұрын

this reminds me of both the dark night returns and the immortal hulk, with the being a deeper, darker side to Batman separate from Bruce.

@KenByrneNL 3 жыл бұрын

The artwork reminds me of Batman: year 1 - it is beautiful

@davidesterley3163 3 жыл бұрын

I had this book at one point, now I'm inspired to find it again

@fourultra119 3 жыл бұрын

This book makes more excited for the Batman movie, Great video!!!

@user-ne4pm8cg3t 3 жыл бұрын

Yesss I’ve been waiting for this one for a long time!

@DanV900 3 жыл бұрын

Batman: Ego was heavily influenced by the great film, My Dinner with Andre. I would recommend that interview Darwyn Cooke did in 2007 for The Comics Journal when he spoke about it. “That’s really the idea: What if these two guys could sit and have a conversation? Are they the same person, just with a mask, or are they really two different personalities within the same person.” www.tcj.com/the-darwyn-cooke-interview-by-markisan-naso/

@jarrydgasson1802 2 жыл бұрын

One of my favourite comics ever

@vfxninja5503 3 жыл бұрын

I reeeeeeally like this book. Excellent art and a very unique take on the character.

@wtfrocks8663 3 жыл бұрын

22:55 - What's funny is you could've made Ben disappear with the same level of editing trickery they did in Excalibur.

@Evyscreations 3 жыл бұрын

1:11 Me trying to explain comics to non comic readers. I feel seen, Sal.

@roxastidus 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this one. Darwyn is my fav

@sheevinit1490 3 жыл бұрын

This was my first superhero comic, picked it up in trade at my local library when I was... 12? I think? Needless to say, it blew my mind, and now, here I am.

@flywheelshyster 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know what this is but it looks like the animated series. so instant love. I hope the animated series stuff gets moved to HBO max, i've only heard that the movies are. losing them all / having to purchase through VUDU or amazon would really suck. I got DCU for them to begin with

@DCPatrol 3 жыл бұрын

I've had this book for a while now but have never even opened it. It was fun to listen to you talk about it though! I have suggestion for another Batman book to cover. Kings of Fear. Real fun, especially if you like Kelley Jones' work. All the best!

@comicpop 3 жыл бұрын

We've got it!

@xxmunkiexx 3 жыл бұрын

ive been sick as a dog these past few days and ever since this dropped ive been feeling 10000000x better! is it the medicine finally kicking in or is it the sweet, sweet back issues giving me life? I think we all know the answer.

@FanSpawn1 2 жыл бұрын

This is a great story I love watching this show to get some ideas of books to add to my collection I had this on my list of books to buy. I don't know why or how but I found a copy of the original paperback edition of Batman Ego and Other Tails, not the deluxe at a dollar store near me today so I bought the only copy that was there and it only cost me $4. I guess you get lucky sometimes with where you find comics.

@scoobers90 3 жыл бұрын

Can't watch because I'm at work, so imma just leave a thumbs up for now.

@mandy_death24U 3 жыл бұрын

You guys should do Minutemen by Cooke. A great story overshadowed by the before watchmen reception.

@reddays8448 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome I’ve been waiting for this

@creme8338 3 жыл бұрын

boys, this is what i watch the channel for. fuck yes batman solo stories.

@vaggelisbaousis1756 3 жыл бұрын

Yeeeees! Love me some Darwyn Cooke!

@Captain8ball 2 жыл бұрын

Idk why this is a part of the The Batman essential reads. it takes more inspiration from zero year and earth one

@TumzFestivalYT 2 жыл бұрын

I want a James Bond opening gunshot style death of The Waynes.

@Brazdon83 3 жыл бұрын

Buster Snibbs is a classic name XD

@Iceteague1 3 жыл бұрын

Super underrated story.

@xanderreimers4445 2 жыл бұрын

After picking up the trade, I think that reeves and Pattinson might have been informed by the cat woman and Batman stuff cooke did that also included in the paperback

@adamquenano8563 3 жыл бұрын

Top 5 Batman story

@infinitymelon7939 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see vol 2 of IDW tmnt the fist video was great

@pbjoey703 3 жыл бұрын

Batman bat-issues I’m in!! 🦇 ❤️

@ianrusttattoos 2 жыл бұрын

Not 100% sure, but I BELIEVE that Frank Quitely may have done the bullet POV shot in We3.

@makisdimakis333 3 жыл бұрын

Finally a Batman video !!!🥳🥳

@Ode_10 3 жыл бұрын

Just purchased a 1st print, sooo goood!

@prettyflyforafilipin 3 жыл бұрын

Batman’s grave is a pretty solid solo story

@jonathanthomas4722 3 ай бұрын

Darwyn is Canadian. @16:37

@Peecamarke 3 жыл бұрын

Great video guys! Sal, you are a true bard with your storytelling skills

@creed8712 2 жыл бұрын

You know what’s funny. Mention of the animated series and the writers association makes it ironic that it would be talked about on the couch seeing the death of the Wayne’s from the bullets perspective as that was an idea regarding following at least the gun that killed the Wayne’s

@jeffrosicness 3 жыл бұрын

I also love hyrule

@Sicod79 Жыл бұрын

As this referenced Three Jokers and being a Batman story that only involves the Bat family it made me think, would DC ever go with more than 1 Batman because Bats can seem different in crossover stories and Bat only stories.

@ryan-wt7dy 3 жыл бұрын

Darwyn Cooke was Canadian. 16:40

@comicpop 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta get that correction in there.

@thealmightytruffles9622 3 жыл бұрын

Will you/have you done Batman Last Knight on Earth by Scott Snyder yet?

@thermscissorpunch1787 3 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe Sal forgot the best part of that episode of Batman the animated series, the one with the three vignettes. There’s a scene where the kids telling the stories pass by another kid who is rather “flamboyant“ who insert himself into the conversation, saying he had seen Batman and that he loved Batman with all the leather and the capes. The three children look at him with a funny look and one of them says “whatever Joel.” Which is a big dig at Joel Schumaker and his Batman films.