Battersby to Whitby Route Learning and Cab Ride on Class 25 No. D7628

Battersby to Whitby Route Learning and Cab Ride on Class 25 No. D7628 - Part 2/2

Рет қаралды 35,570

4 жыл бұрын

Part 2/2
Battersby to Whitby Route Learning and Cab Ride on Class 25 No. D7628.
Filmed in 2008 on the Esk Valley Branch.
Watch Part 1/2 (Grosmont to Battersby):
• Grosmont to Battersby ...
Note that the layout of Whitby station has subsequently been altered to re-instate Platform 2 for the North Yorkshire Moors Railway.
See updated Esk Valley Line Route Learning with the new Whitby station layout:
Battersby to Whitby (2015):
• Battersby to Whitby Es...
Whitby to Battersby (2015):
• Whitby to Battersby EV...

Пікірлер: 55

@jdavis460 22 күн бұрын

Nice to hear the Northern accent again. I started my 45 year footplate career at Kings cross and we would venture into those strange lands "up North". 😃

@tango6nf477 4 жыл бұрын

The amount and depth of knowledge the driver possessed about the line was incredible what a professional, I was very impressed.

@neiloflongbeck5705 3 жыл бұрын

That's because in the UK drivers have to known every signal, speed restriction and braking point on the lines they Re cleared to drive on. This can mean trains being cancelled because of the lack of route qualified drivers, unless a inspector is present to take responsibility.

@tgm9991 3 жыл бұрын

The depth of knowledge is as expected really, drivers have to know a route like the back of their hand before they can drive it alone guards also need a good amount of route knowledge as well

@paulhwbooth Жыл бұрын

Fantastic. An expert, demonstrating his expertise in a clear manner, without fuss. The best sort.

@DistrictDriver 4 жыл бұрын

An excellent resource! As a former train driver, it was like going through road learning school again! Thanks!

@steamdieselrailwayvideosfi4296 4 жыл бұрын

A great video........... thanks very much for posting.

@markthompson7261 4 жыл бұрын

brilliant thanks for posting.

@London1064 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, great instructor 👍👍👍

@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 4 жыл бұрын

very interesting and informative. thank you

@MDBenson 4 жыл бұрын

Part 2 of a great video, atmospheric, educational and a real insight into the operations on the line. Many thanks.

@andyjgough 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a very informative video

@SteamCrane 3 жыл бұрын

At 14:53 to 14:59, the farm on the left has a narrow gauge railroad, several switches, looks like also grading to extend the track northward. Has good looking limestone ballast. I found it on Google satellite, along the track just west of Castleton Station and Langburn's Bank road. The owner did extend the track slightly west, to add a runaround track (loop).

@piccadillyline9765 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to see a rat out on a run. Great video.

@ThePanzer6 4 жыл бұрын

Great,

@andyjgough 4 жыл бұрын

Is there one of these for the actual NYMR? Ive bought the route learning DVD but its nice to get the commentary as well

@nymrfootage 4 жыл бұрын

There isn't one with a commentary for the NYMR, yet

@malcolmbrown3532 4 жыл бұрын

A most interesting view along with part 1 of the NYMR Esk valley operations. Especially with Chris's [the Driver] commentary highlighting various aspects of the route. it's also most interesting how various of the bridges embankments and cuttings between Grosmont and Battersby were built to accommodate a second track. As this second line was never installed other than as passing loops in some stations. The Grosmont Whitby section was originally double track, up until the eighties as a left over from the old days when the line ran through to Pickering and Rillington on the Scarborough line.

@nymrfootage 4 жыл бұрын

I presume the iron ore traffic from the long closed mines never justied the doubling. Ironically, the line has never been busier.

@neiloflongbeck5705 4 жыл бұрын

@@nymrfootage there weren't many iron stone mines along the Esk Valley. Traffic revenues ever justified the doubling of the line.

@ewanmarshall2010 4 жыл бұрын

That driver sure has a lot of knowledge when it comes to driving the loco along the Esk Valley Line! Though it is hard trying to understand what he is saying to the signaller at Whitby at the 1:06:50 mark but I’m assuming he requests permission to set up a route from NR back onto the NYMR?

@ssbohio 3 жыл бұрын

I saw a whistle board at 1:13:54 but the horn wasn't sounded. I couldn't see a crossing immediately after that, though, so perhaps there was no need to sound the horn. Was it missed, or did it not need to be sounded at all?

@edwinholland6149 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to have a run on a 1250 again. Signed and drove these machines for many miles working all classes of traffic in the 70s/80s. Was one of the Vac brake settings selected on brake changeover switch as sounded as though only one compressor running, took a long time to rebuild air Res ? Good locos, many memories, what I wouldn't give for one more driving turn on a 25 !!

@markneilson6380 4 жыл бұрын

Do you know if NR have a plan to replace some of the old bowstring bridges that have the 10 mph speed restrictions?

@nymrfootage 4 жыл бұрын

Many of the bowstring bridges have been replaced since this was filmed. A couple were done about 5 or 6 years ago at Danby and the bridge at Glaisdale near Beggar's Bridge has also been replaced. A couple of other bridges may have also been replaced more recently. If you watch the more recent route learning footage on the EVL from 2015, you can see the new bridges at Danby. The speed restrictions have now been removed. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJZje5NhzruvhoE.html

@neiloflongbeck5705 4 жыл бұрын

The NER called those bridges hog-back girder bridges.

@nymrfootage 4 жыл бұрын

@@neiloflongbeck5705 didn't know that. Thanks

@philiptaylor664 4 жыл бұрын

I know this might seem a silly question, but do you have to notify anyone about the sheep on the line and also the dead one

@nymrfootage 4 жыл бұрын

If there are are a lot of sheep on the line it is advisable to notify the signalman so they can warn other train crews of possible encroachment onto the line. If you run a sheep over you only have to report it if there are more than 6 sheep, I think. Could be 8. Animals like cows or horses are more dangerous as they can cause more damage to a train die to their size and should be reported to the signalman so they can warn other trains of the obstruction. Nowadays trains have GMSR digital phones so they can contact the signalman en route

@philiptaylor664 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@RockAutisticChannel 3 жыл бұрын

On 1:06:49, I can't hear what the driver is saying at Whitby about asking permission to use a token, pass the stop board and proceed to Grosmont. Can you tell me what he was saying?

@tgm9991 3 жыл бұрын

He'll be saying pretty much the same as he did when we heard him asking for the tokens at Glaisdale and Battersby.

@inregionecaecorum 2 жыл бұрын

Not exactly HST is it? I remember this line, this video is oh so modern with the welded track.

@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf Жыл бұрын

It is now. This video was many years ago!

@paulbennett2902 3 жыл бұрын

Has the Battersby to Whitby section always been single lined ?

@nymrfootage 3 жыл бұрын

Whitby to Grosmont was double track until the early 1980s. It was then singled to what we use today. Grosmont to Battersby was always single line but had passing loops at each station. These were removed at some point. Not sure if it was the early 1980s when the Whitby to Grosmont section was singled or whether it was earlier. The

@TheZacDJ 4 жыл бұрын

What was required on the train to run at line-speed? I couldn't quite make it out the Driver said "if you haven't got (something) on the train you'll be limited to 25mph"

@nymrfootage 4 жыл бұрын

There are various issues that could limit the train speed. I've not gone and looked at the video but if you can give a time code I'll take a look. For example if the AWS/TPWS equipment was faulty and the driver has reported the issue to the signalman, the train could continue at reduced speed to get it to its destination and clear the line. Other issues such as a defective horn or a brake on a coach has been isolated also necessitate a reduction in speed.

@fetchstixRHD 3 жыл бұрын

@@nymrfootage: Something to do with the doors - at about 1:21:40 it's mentioned but I can't make out the word? (Edit: it sounds a bit like "door stewards" after replaying, though I may still be mishearing?)

@cedarcam 3 жыл бұрын

@@fetchstixRHD He does say door stewards. I presume because these trains are slam door with no locks on they are restricted to 25mph whilst running on Network Rail unless there is a steward at each door.

@fetchstixRHD 3 жыл бұрын

@@cedarcam: That would make sense, something I didn't even think of truthfully! Didn't think of what the restrictions you'd have without central door locking would have been before (or whether you could have ran without it!) but it all sounds sensible.

@brianaston8544 4 жыл бұрын

At 50 seconds why is the signal beside the G showing Red? and passed?

@nymrfootage 4 жыл бұрын

The signal was actually yellow but the angle of the camera and the type of bulbs or LEDs in signal look red when filmed by the video camera, also not helped by the white balance being set to warm/cloudy to brighten the image. If the signal had been red you would not get the 'G' to proceed to Glaisdale. It would be blank.

@brianaston8544 4 жыл бұрын

@@nymrfootage Thanks for the prompt reply.Ill pass it on to the other Bodmin Railway drivers who found the Video interesting .

@inregionecaecorum 2 жыл бұрын

Only one platform at Whitby? I can a lot of evidence on the bridges that this used to be double track for a long way and that is how I remember it.

@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf Жыл бұрын

Yes, prior to the now 2 platform station and revamped layout.

@thesaint001 Жыл бұрын

It was at least double track from Grosmont to Whitby but was reduced to single track in the late 1980s.

@joncoe9046 4 жыл бұрын

Is this NR owned? They need to spend some money on the bridges if so.

@tgm9991 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it is owned by Network Rail and some of the bridges have been replaced since this was filmed it took a while this line isn't exactly a priority for cash.

@markneilson6380 4 жыл бұрын

Is the 25 regiested on NR? Is it TPWS fitted?

@neiloflongbeck5705 4 жыл бұрын

Yes it is. It has to be to go on the public network.

@fetchstixRHD 3 жыл бұрын

You can see the TPWS control panel on the top right hand corner, at 0:13!

@tgm9991 3 жыл бұрын

TPWS, AWS, GSM-R are all required for the NR lines and are fitted, pretty sure OTMR is required as well.