Yes!

Thanks Dave never knew that about 3 dB being twice the noise, but it certainly makes sense.

You are correct. A 3 dB increase is twice as loud as the previous number.

Also between cuts you have no sound at all and that helps too.

Yes it's correct.

My local small engine shop recommends using the premixed, ethanol free gas. They said they've been able to let some engines sit for years without gas going bad or ethanol eating the lines.

@@robertm5969 That's cool, but I can use mt E-saw inside my shed in foul weather. No fumes. But, nothing beats a gas saw IMHO!

@@dougtravins9624 Maybe you right in a sense, the all problem with MSA300 is the AP500S battery isn't up to the saw. Battery technology still light years a way for continuous professional work, other than that I fell very confident I can challenge any 50cc gas power saw with my MSA300.

I take the point about ultimate range, but also, here in the uk, how often do we do 650 miles in a day? Not that often. So in some ways the lightning is a good choice. Certainly here in the uk anyway

@@richardpage1162 i agree…I think the majority of people don’t regularly drive over 200 miles in a day, maybe 4 times a year. And that is why it makes a lot of sense.

Why do Tesla owners feel compelled to tell us about their cars no matter what the actual subject of the discussion is?

@@TroySavary because teslas are the best electric vehicles on the market, and Mike was discussing the ford lighting

That is an $800 chain saw. Glad to see you are handling your own situation reasonably well. Best wishes!

Most definitely. I’m using their lawnmower and string mower and am impressed by the battery life!

But.....how long do you have to wait for the battery to charge compared to a minute or two for refilling the gas saw. Time is more important than green energy in my opinion

Also Stihl batteries and charger are quite expensive.

@@bparsons72007 It really depends on your setting and need. My lawn isn’t that big, so I can do with one battery for the entirety of my lawn. Easy. If my lawn were considerably larger, I’d go with a petrol-powered tool. But if I can use an akku tool efficiently, why not choose a greener route? Let’s not be myopic. There are many ways to go, depending on your needs and requirements. Both combustion and electric motors have their place-for now at least.

@@jefftaussig7373 that’s true.

10 minute commercial

​@@hankkalb9267 who would you rather see. A salesman or Mike.😂😂😂 Mike is more honest.

@@hankkalb9267 personal endorsement for the brand but these are his opinions and observations. He isn't trying to sell you on this.

The pros and cons with a 271 homeowner saw tuned SUPER RICH on top of it to underpower it? Lol, stop.

@@njkay0033 If you're this gullible you'll be cursing yourself on the deathbed.

And how do you see MSA160 vs MSA220? Do you think you would buy both next time, is there need for both for you? Or one of them would do it, which one, please? :)

@@frantisek_heca I feel having both was a good decision. the 220 is more of a general purpose saw while the 160 is better for limbing and getting into tight places when clearing brush. If i could only buy one, i would go with the 160 for my purposes since it can do everything the 220 can (to the extent that bar length isn't a limiting factor) but just a bit more slowly since it has less power.

Good for when you are up in the air and don't want to loose your balance while pulling a starter cord.

There is a bunch of Maples in my far forty with that defect, I don’t have a sawmill so they end up firewood!

@@oldmanfred8676 that's too bad. They can have stunning figure and make great cutting and charcuterie boards. Have a great day.

@@tommyordoyne7461, I’ve seen some cute things made of it. Turned bowls would be great.

Agreed; at first look, I was thinking I might have gone with the 300 had it been available when I bought my MS261 as they are similarly priced...until I saw the battery would be another $500 CAD! For that price, I would have gone with the 400 with a 24" or 28" bar. Happy with my MS261, but I can appreciate the benefits of the 300 as a firewooding saw if you can afford it. It looks like a great option for many.

@@jamesiversen Yes the main problem is the batteries cost, however I use the same battery in the Trimmer 135, on the MSA220C and sometimes even one the 161T, but yes buying the batteries feels like buying gold.

I think in this video you not got the really cutting time on the MSA300. I have one and 4 AP500S plus 4 AP300S batteries. The saw itself is great but is like a Mustang GT with gas tank in the reserve. Cutting oak with an 18" bar on my MSA300, on logs using about 80 or 90% of the bar 12 cuts and I am out of power on AP500S battery. Battery technology still kind light years away for this saw, this for professional use.

If your electric stuff breaks down you won't skin your knuckles because you won't be able to fix it..

Even a Tesla for long trips isn't that bad. The charging network is getting pretty solid. My buddy drives from Michigan to Florida 2 times a year with his Tesla Model S without issues. Charging added maybe 2 hours or something. The Tesla plans out your charging stops in its GPS for you.

I own multiple saws, and I can say that I find myself grabbing the battery-powered Stihl most times unless I need to fell a big tree. Never Knew I needed it until I had it.

@@TroIIingThemSoftly instant torque is nice

Recip saws are brill often over looked, We bought down 5 30 Leyland with one cheaper than paying some professional? Team. 🇬🇧

I use my battery saw for covert little "logging trips" where I don't want to attract any attention (just collecting dead & fallen wood from areas of questionable ownership as I don't have my own property. Lol) . Gas saws can be heard from miles away on a quiet day......

you know that an electric vehicle would have the same advantages

@@protovack No. An electric vehicle does not have the same advantages. Electrics work for some things and not for others.

@@cdalton3169 then why is their massive demand for electric trucks all over the place? farmers and ranchers don't like doing gas engine maintenance. the biggest demand for electric vehicles is coming from fleets, bus fleets, garbage truck fleets, maintenance fleets, and then private citizens that have a lot of work to do and don't want the inconvenience of gas. did i miss anything?? im a lifelong silverado owner and i use the crap out of my trucks. and i am first in line for an electric version. basically the only reason at this point to not go electric is if you tow heavy for long distances. and even that advantage is disappearing rapidly. within 10-20 years your statements will have aged poorly!

@@protovack There is no huge demand for trucks and tractors to do farm work. Your argument is a non-starter because you don’t understand Ohms Law. Farmers and ranchers don’t use gas engines. Many buses, cities, etc. are being forced to go this route because of regulation… not because they want a plug in vehicle. Sounds like you have talked yourself into a plug in truck. Best of luck with that. It will never pull what a diesel will (despite what you think), you will lose two hours on your trip because that’s how long it’ll take to acquire a moderate charge, and under heavy load that little fact of Ohms Law called current will eat your lunch. Let’s see how far you get by comparison to a diesel pulling a trailer of even moderate load. Wait until that battery needs replacing and the cost of the battery exceeds the value of the vehicle, which is already occurring. If you’re a closet, save the planet guy - that’s a non-starter too. You are pulling hundreds of amps off the grid to charge that vehicle. So, sorry - you’ll need the power lines and nuclear power to keep your plug-in running. And those batteries… nothing more nasty than lithium and cadmium. Most localities now are charging an added tax because you’re not burning road fuel so there’s no saving there either. Electric works for trains because weight is not a factor and they have massive diesel engines supplying variable AC to the drives. They get gallons per mile economy but they are moving 100 million pounds. You are not doing this with a battery vehicle. There is no efficiency. In fact, you’re hauling nothing and certainly not pulling anything beyond 200 or so miles and if you do very often those cells only have so many charge / discharge cycles before their capacity is reduced and will require replacement. You have bought into the false reality of pie in the sky electrics. You are being played. As far as the farmer, imagine that pansy electric tractor sitting out in the field with seven bottom plows in the ground and, darn Ohms Law, pulling so much current the batteries die. Can’t refuel the thing so you have to bring a generator out and burn diesel fuel to charge it for four hours to plow 20 more rows. Can’t drive back to the barn every time the batteries get low. What you can do is watch your neighbor with that big, efficient diesel plow his entire field while you sit there picking your nose trying to save enough gas for all the rest. It’s both comical and stupid at the same time. So your serve, battery man. Your mind is made up and so is mine. Best wishes to your battery powered future.

@@cdalton3169 i mean i already own an electric car that does 99% of my needs. battery power tools that do 100%. and i have a gas silverado that only does actual truck duty and has 30k miles in 10 years. my electric truck will do everything my current truck does. i don't tow heavy trailers thousands of miles, but its pretty obvious that someday there will be electric solutions. there are already electric excavators and front end loaders doing heavy work in europe and they are handling the load just fine. the only thing i will agree on is that there is no way electric can do long distance air travel, and it may never. But a heavy trailer? You can easily slap a battery and a motor underneath it and double your miles.