Battle of the Eastern Solomons: Japanese POV & Analysis of the Battle (2/2)

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Montemayor

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(Animated Battle Map) Part 2 of a two part series.
Bonus clip link: • Combat Footage of the ...
00:00 Introduction
00:25 Operation KA Preparation
4:51 Why did American Intelligence Fail?
11:26 August 23
13:12 August 24 Sightings
17:01 IJN’s Biggest Mistake
22:22 IJN’s Second Blunder
25:40 Lessons from the Battle
Corrections:
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Help with research: Michał A Piegzik
Help with script: Daniel N.
Music:
Filmstro
Sources:
Cox, Jeffrey (2019). Morning Star, Midnight Sun: The Early Guadalcanal -Solomons Campaign of World War II ... August-October 1942. Osprey.
Dull, P.S. (1978) A battle history of the Imperial Japanese Navy. Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press.
Evans, D. C., & Peattie, M. R. (2012). Kaigun: Strategy, tactics, and technology in the Imperial Japanese Navy, 1887-1941. Naval Institute Press.
Frank, R.B. (1990) Guadalcanal. Penguin Books.
Hammel, E. M. (2009). Carrier clash: The invasion of guadalcanal and the battle of the eastern solomons, August 1942. Pacifica Military History.
Hornfischer, J. D. (2011). Neptune's inferno: The U.S. Navy at Guadalcanal. Bantam Books.
Lundstrom, J.B. (2013) Black Shoe Carrier Admiral: Frank Jeck Fletcher at Coral Sea, midway, and Guadalcanal. Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press.
Lundstrom, J. B. (2005). The first team and the Guadalcanal Campaign: Naval Fighter Combat from August to November 1942. Naval Institute Press.
Prados, J. (1995) Combined fleet decoded: The secret history of american intelligence and the Japanese Navy in World War II. Random House.
Prados, J. (2013) Islands of destiny: The solomons campaign and the eclipse of the rising sun. New York: NAL Caliber.
Stille, M. (2015) Guadalcanal: 1942-43 ; America's first victory on the road to Tokyo. Oxford: Osprey Publishing.
Stille, M. (2012) Santa Cruz 1942: Carrier Duel in the South Pacific. Botley, Oxford: Osprey Publishing.
Stille, M. (2013) The Naval Battles for Guadalcanal 1942: Clash for supremacy in the Pacific. Oxford: Osprey Publishing.
Stille, M. (2007) USN carriers vs IJN Carriers: The pacific, 1942. Oxford: Osprey.

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@ThatOneGuy1904
@ThatOneGuy1904 Жыл бұрын
Getting to the end of the one hour video to find out there was an unlisted half an hour one is such a treat.
@jajefan123456789
@jajefan123456789 Жыл бұрын
the gift that keeps on giving 🥰
@warrenpeze8987
@warrenpeze8987 Жыл бұрын
oh yes
@CassidyListon
@CassidyListon Жыл бұрын
Seriously! ❤
@bandit6272
@bandit6272 Жыл бұрын
Same. It really makes you glad you watched till the end
@malickfan7461
@malickfan7461 Жыл бұрын
It’s like he’s trying to filter out those that didn’t watch all of the last one. 😂
@ukaszbochenski5453
@ukaszbochenski5453 Жыл бұрын
It's also interesting to see how Enterprise's commander makes sure twice that Fletcher receives Ryujo spotting report, while Japanese airman from secend wave don't even ask their flight leader why are they flying to nowhere.
@proof4469
@proof4469 Жыл бұрын
Cultural differences. In Japan it's hard to challenge a superior, let alone speak up at all about anything. How dare a lowly pilot question their flight leader?
@ReichLife
@ReichLife Жыл бұрын
@@proof4469 Is it though? Bermuda Triangle most known story about Flight 19 was almost certainly exactly due to flight leader being in blatant wrong and no one daring to question or disobeying him.
@proof4469
@proof4469 Жыл бұрын
@@ReichLife we are talking about the average experience; of course there are examples showing the contrary for anything. Of course not all europeans are like this, not all asians are like that, but there is a real general cultural difference on average. I lived in both east and west and you can instantly notice a cultural difference when it comes to speaking up to your superiors. It is on average an uncomfortable experience in the west, while a possible social suicide and a very easy way to get instantly fired from your job in asia
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 Жыл бұрын
@@proof4469 It's certainly true that it comes up on several occasions during the war that American soldiers, sailors and commanders were willing to speak up and even speak against their superiors and that often was extremely helpful. It was something that shocked the Axis quite often when they saw that attitude and something they learned to respect, that and the generally more informal culture of the American military even compared to other Allied armies.
@HarrDarr
@HarrDarr Жыл бұрын
@@hedgehog3180 when did it shock the axis? which axis forces were shocked by this? german doctrine was centered around junior command and the ability to critically engage the battlefield based on the units individual capabilities and the lay of the land.
@crazywarriorscatfan9061
@crazywarriorscatfan9061 Жыл бұрын
I know The Ops Room now dominates this section of KZfaq, but this channel will always be my favorite! The fog of war aspect is one of the reasons why you're videos are so good
@PalestinianAmerican
@PalestinianAmerican 4 ай бұрын
Because you're racist
@2Links
@2Links Жыл бұрын
Love your work. I know you just do this as a hobby but you really should make this video public so more people will see it imo.
@MontemayorChannel
@MontemayorChannel Жыл бұрын
I Fear it messes with the algorithm if you release two videos on the same day. so I kept this one unlisted for those who are interested. but probably in a few days I will make this one go public.
@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829
@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 Жыл бұрын
@@MontemayorChannel I love your videos so much. Seriously, this really made my day and when I saw a SECOND video 30 mins long… I just got the biggest grin
@rjhaney2614
@rjhaney2614 Жыл бұрын
@@MontemayorChannel Oversimplified releases two videos on the same day. He might have different reasons for it, but it works for him and it could very easily work for you. Especially if you link the second part at the end of the first part.
@JustinHusted
@JustinHusted Жыл бұрын
@@MontemayorChannelSeriously, I don’t know what your financial situation is, but these videos are in such detail and we know you put a ton of work into these. If you had a Patreon or something I’m sure folks would gladly contribute for your efforts. Edit: ah just noticed you have a PayPal link on your profile. Thanks again for all you do!
@qx43
@qx43 Жыл бұрын
@@MontemayorChannel thank you for this great content!
@LostShipMate
@LostShipMate Жыл бұрын
Part 2 in less than a year, let alone a few days? I hope this trend continues, this channel is such a gem.
@JJMB27
@JJMB27 Жыл бұрын
It was available the same day, but it was unlisted.
@josephdontworryaboutit4495
@josephdontworryaboutit4495 Жыл бұрын
​@@JJMB27 I keep seeing people say "unlisted", what exactly does it mean when a video is unlisted and why would it be made unlisted?
@JJMB27
@JJMB27 Жыл бұрын
@@josephdontworryaboutit4495 that it didn't appear in the list of videos of the channel, but if you kept watching the first part till the end, the link will be there and you would be able to see part two.
@artificialintelligence8328
@artificialintelligence8328 Жыл бұрын
@@josephdontworryaboutit4495 Essentially it means the video is hidden from the public but can still be accessed through direct links.
@vavamast-di8oj
@vavamast-di8oj Жыл бұрын
You're not very bright, lol!
@evanwilberg7537
@evanwilberg7537 Жыл бұрын
Came here from part 1, fully expecting part 2 to be behind a Patreon or some sort of paywall. Absolutely floored that this was simply unlisted. You are one of the purest creators out there. That said, if I ever had to pay for your content, I would. You can take as long as you want. These videos are an occasion. Thank you for your effort and sincerity :)
@Colonel_Overkill
@Colonel_Overkill Жыл бұрын
Check out drachinifel. He did a really good overview of the solomons campaign going over every naval action, released last year and does a great job on vids. He has a patreon but no content is pay walled, its mainly for ship review or deep dive suggestions and voting.
@somebod8703
@somebod8703 Жыл бұрын
@@Colonel_Overkill I think Drachi is quite different than this channel. Operations room would be more similar. Drachi never makes any visual stuff (at least on youtube). No maps etc. He just shows pictures and talks. While still entertaining, that's much less work than this channel puts into the videos I believe.
@Colonel_Overkill
@Colonel_Overkill Жыл бұрын
@Some Bod yea, you are right. I was thinking of the solomons mainly which do have maps and animations, but most of the rest of the campaign overviews dont.
@somebod8703
@somebod8703 Жыл бұрын
@@Colonel_Overkill I think the video does have maps, but I don't remember ever seeing an animation from him. Are you sure?
@Colonel_Overkill
@Colonel_Overkill Жыл бұрын
@Some Bod yea, the first couple dont but the later ones ops room did them in a collab
@ThePilot4ever
@ThePilot4ever Жыл бұрын
Montemayo is the gold standard of animated battlemaps on YT, possibly the whole of the internet
@Psalmster023
@Psalmster023 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct
@sterlingpowersify
@sterlingpowersify 3 ай бұрын
If there is an animated battlemap, you have my money and my sword
@GPCyanide
@GPCyanide Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for not blueballing us! not only did you craft this perspective as well but you delivered it at the same time! this is why you're the best
@Renzuru21
@Renzuru21 Жыл бұрын
This is really a nice trait of Montemayor. He shows both parties in any documentary. Something that most modern history documentary films don't do. This is the reason why he's one of the best content creators when it comes to history :) More vids please! Thank you
@jimmym3352
@jimmym3352 Жыл бұрын
As a Navy vet who served on the USS Enterprise (CVN 65 version), I appreciate the good work. Thanks.
@norspit7473
@norspit7473 Жыл бұрын
This channel is at the top of war history on YT, i hope you get to dedicate more time for it in the future. I can't wait for the next campaign you'll cover.
@orinthecat
@orinthecat Жыл бұрын
20:09 Pilot's initiative is vital in a carrier battle. Japanese pilots did nothing resulted in missing a critical blow on the Enterprise. On the contrary, in battle of Midway US pilots missed their target, but insisted to search for IJN carriers while having limited fuel, eventually delivered deadly blow to Kido Butai.
@SirGrindalot
@SirGrindalot Жыл бұрын
This video being currently unlisted was a great idea and a welcome surprise. As if getting new content from Montemayor wasn't a blessing already!!
@manuellanger1168
@manuellanger1168 Жыл бұрын
This is more entertaining than most of movies shown in theatres. Brilliant narration (it feels very passionate), I love your videos.
@TheSpaceEnthusiast-vl6wx
@TheSpaceEnthusiast-vl6wx Жыл бұрын
Very true.
@thecappeningchannel515
@thecappeningchannel515 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I paypaled the dude the price of a cinema ticket. Best money spent. 😅
@gingerli5820
@gingerli5820 Жыл бұрын
@@thecappeningchannel515 Getting out of 'paypal' would be money better spent.
@f-xdemers2825
@f-xdemers2825 Жыл бұрын
The amount of research it must have taken to put together an accurate rendering of the events of this battle, must be awesome. Thank you for every minute of the story telling.
@Wil_Dasovich
@Wil_Dasovich Жыл бұрын
Bro your backkkk let’s goo!!! 🎉🎉🎉
@MontemayorChannel
@MontemayorChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Wil!
@dazzagong
@dazzagong Жыл бұрын
You have an incredible talent for presenting naval history in this format. Thank you for your hard work.
@TheSpaceEnthusiast-vl6wx
@TheSpaceEnthusiast-vl6wx Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@richmcintyre1178
@richmcintyre1178 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSpaceEnthusiast-vl6wx 100%
@Zergling.
@Zergling. Жыл бұрын
To everyone that stayed until the end of the other video from the american perpective, good job this is our reward. And another present at the end of this one too :)
@Rudy-du2mt
@Rudy-du2mt Жыл бұрын
For the swarm!
@sirboomsalot4902
@sirboomsalot4902 Жыл бұрын
I just got done reading “Japanese Destroyer Captain” by Tameichi Hara, who commanded the Amatsukaze in this battle (it was his destroyer that pulled up alongside Ryujo to rescue survivors). This battle was one of my favorite parts of that book. One slightly humorous thing I read was at one point Hara sent a message at Ryujo yelling at them for having so few aircraft airborne and being so slow to launch the rest
@salvadorvizcarra769
@salvadorvizcarra769 Жыл бұрын
Propaganda, but NOT History, has led us to believe that the Empire of Japan began its territorial expansion in the 1930’s, invading China, creating the puppet State of Manchukuo and “Provoking” the war with the Western Powers. But, Was this really, how events happened? Did Japan invade China and South East Asia? It seems so. However, the Propaganda does NOT say that for centuries, all Asia was invaded by Western Powers. England occupied India, Burma (Myanmar); Singapore, Malaysia and China (Hong Kong, Nanking, Shanghai, etc). France dominated all Indochina. The Netherlands intervened by the Force of its Arms, to all of Indonesia. And Belgium, Germany, Portugal, Spain, and of course, also the United States were in South East Asia cuz, for example this country, the US, occupied the Philippines since 1898. (Spanish-American War). Thus the panorama in the 30's, the Empire of Japan, when defeating to the Tsarist Russian Empire, it also decided to "Grow" by invading its neighbors. In those years, all European nations had colonies in Africa, India, the Middle East, Asia and America. (England came to occupy almost ¼ part of the planet). For its part, the US, in 113 years of existence as a nation in those years, had "Grown" 711 the size of its territory from its original 13 colonies. Now is the picture clear? Japan for its part, had fought on the side of the winners in World War I (1914-1918), and they, the Japanese, not awarded any "Gain". The western victors of WWI divided the world. Japan was excluded. Thus, Japan's motives for attacking and expanding as the Europeans and the US did seem clearer, right? Then they, the Japanese, attacked China in 30’s, which was occupied by 6 Western Powers for almost a century. None of the Western Powers occupying China at this time, OPPOSED or fought Japan for Invading China. NONE! Then, 11 years later after having occupied the territory of China and coexisted without any problem with the Western Powers within China, they, the Japanese, attacked Hawaii, which in turn, this Island had been occupied and annexed by the US in 1898. (In 1900-01, Hawaii became US territory and Hawaii ceased to be an independent nation after more than 630 years of sovereignty. By the time Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, the United States had just completed the 40th anniversary of the military occupation and annexation of Hawaii). They, the Japanese, attacked Singapore, which was then a Colony of England. They, the Japanese, attacked the Philippines, which were occupied by the US and whose Gov’r, Douglas MacArthur reined as Emperor. Yup… Truly like an Absolute Autocrat. Therefore, the Japanese did NOT attack (In the 40’s), Singapore, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Borneo, Timor, the Philippines, etc. In reality, the Japanese attacked England, France, Belgium, Holland, the US, etc. That is, the Japanese attacked the Western Powers invading all of Asia. That is the verifiable truth. But, Propaganda has made us believe that the good guys were us, the US. And of course… Nanking was a horrendous Genocide committed by Japan, but, it was no more horrendous than the 12 Genocides committed by the United States in his History and all over the world. Nor was it less horrendous than the Genocide committed by King Leopold II of Belgium, in Central Africa. Nor was Nanking more or less horrendous than the Genocides that the British Empire committed in America, Africa, Australia, Middle East, India and also in China too. And now, the Japanese are our friends and allies... Yup… But, to fight against China, AGAIN!!! Well… No More. No More British Malaya nor British Borneo nor British wherever. No More French Indochina. No More Dutch Indies. No More Portugese Domains. No More US Domain here. Asia is for Asians and “The China Sea” belongs to CHINA!!!
@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis
@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis Жыл бұрын
BROOOOOOOO WHAT A TREAT!!!!! NO IDEA there was a part two! I love the little unlisted gift! Best analysis channel on the Pacific BY FAR. Love your work! Yearly waits are completely worth it!
@RobertLesterDodd
@RobertLesterDodd Жыл бұрын
Every time Montemayor has a new video up I wait for a quiet evening, grab a drink, and enjoy some of the best war documentaries I've seen. Just superb work, and I'm grateful! Thank you!
@MontemayorChannel
@MontemayorChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert Dodd! I'm glad you enjoy them.
@bikezonly
@bikezonly Жыл бұрын
I can't find another channel that splits battles into the perspectives of the parties involved, and also being asked to think of what course of action we would take in the face of dilemmas. Truly amazing work!
@andrewwang885
@andrewwang885 Жыл бұрын
The complexity of the information presented in such an understandable manner exceeds any other popular form of media covering same or similar topics. Almost every other KZfaqr or streaming service is still presenting "fun facts" they learned in a history channel documentary we all watched in 2003. This is the next level. This deserves much more attention. Phenomenal job on every one of your videos.
@grantbridge22
@grantbridge22 Жыл бұрын
Happy to be part of the lucky few who found this while it was still unlisted. You make great content, and I can't wait to watch literally anything you post.
@TellTaleBeat
@TellTaleBeat Жыл бұрын
Really absolutely fantastic work. The wait has been more than worth it. You really are one of the best creators on the platform. I wonder if you could tease or gives us hints to any future plans or videos? As a fan, I hope you take all the time you need to make them, because they really are that fucking good. The effort is clear and is VERY appreciated.
@Rudy-du2mt
@Rudy-du2mt Жыл бұрын
Oh yes please do!
@grfrjiglstan
@grfrjiglstan Жыл бұрын
It's remarkable how both luck and good strategy play almost equal roles in these battles. If you have excellent procedures and tactics, you can overcome some bad luck, and a stroke of excellent luck can outclass a decent strategy.
@shawnc1016
@shawnc1016 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that the truth.
@WilliamDye-willdye
@WilliamDye-willdye Жыл бұрын
Commenting to boost the almighty algo. Monte, you're one of the best historians I've ever had the pleasure of watching. My dad served in that theatre, so your videos are a way for me to get a little closer to him by better understanding that important chapter in his life. He rarely talked about it -- too tragic.
@timhorton698
@timhorton698 Жыл бұрын
In 1942 Fletcher sank 6 japanese aircraft carriers for the loss of 2 of his own. I dont know how much more anyone could ask from him
@The_Modeling_Underdog
@The_Modeling_Underdog Жыл бұрын
8 carriers sunk instead of six... Or that's what King would have said. Massive respect for Fletcher.
@stevotravica7125
@stevotravica7125 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@ReichLife
@ReichLife Жыл бұрын
Not losing 2 fleet carriers and not failing at covering Guadalcanal would be a start. Also worth remembering that Midway, where Japan lost 4 FLEET CARRIERS, was more result of Spruance than Fletcher.
@timhorton698
@timhorton698 Жыл бұрын
@@ReichLife yes. That is the standard narrative. Fletcher was the senior officer at midway...he was smart enough to let spruance use his experience without impeding him which is something another commander (not mentioning names) couldn't do.
@ReichLife
@ReichLife Жыл бұрын
​@@timhorton698 Argument though easily can be made that Halsey or basically any other admiral would perform similarly, showcasing Fletcher presence was hardly that crucial. At the end Midway victory was result of 3 things, US intelligence, overstretched Japanese plan and 'luck'. 'Luck' in which Spruance played bigger role than Fletcher, as it was former decision to spread out attack formations which played key role in disrupting Zero CAP over Kido Butai and also led to deadly two pronged attacked of Dauntlesses. Sure you can use 'senior officer' but just as much Nimitz was senior officer who went with Midway in the first place. Edit: My overall point, Fletcher while decent and competent, wasn't some amazing commander. His withdrawal at the start of Watchtower, could lead to most humiliating US defeat yet and still resulted in embarrassment which was Savo. That was basically 1942 Samar debacle, in which case Fletcher didn't have connections which Halsey had, all while war situation was immensly worse and any defeat could ruin frontal situation for months or years.
@Vrym42
@Vrym42 Жыл бұрын
This unexpected 1-2 punch was exactly what I needed after an especially long work week. While I’d love to see videos from you every week, I think the fact that’s a hobby and side project for you is what makes the videos so good! Thanks for sharing your passion with us!
@fakecubed
@fakecubed Жыл бұрын
Woo! Yes! A second video immediately after the first. I feel bad for anyone who didn't realize this unlisted video was linked at the end of the first part. Hope that it's made public soon for all of them.
@adamtruong1759
@adamtruong1759 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely different from reading the Eastern Solomons on a website than to watch the battle unfold with the fog of war and missed opportunities. Your telling of the battle completely changed how I viewed it (which was that it was a slightly tough victory for the US). I will say, if the Eastern Solomons was this difficult for the US, I can't even imagine how terribly Santa Cruz is going to be, and I already had the opinion it was the toughest carrier battle for the US (maybe even above Midway).
@OnSilverWings
@OnSilverWings Жыл бұрын
Pleasantly surprised part 2 was already up!
@theresaherman
@theresaherman Жыл бұрын
Old guy here. Excellent videos! Really enjoyed your series on the battle of Midway. This was just as good. Cannot wait for your videos on the “last stand of the tin can sailors” Thank you.
@salvadorvizcarra769
@salvadorvizcarra769 Жыл бұрын
Propaganda, but NOT History, has led us to believe that the Empire of Japan began its territorial expansion in the 1930’s, invading China, creating the puppet State of Manchukuo and “Provoking” the war with the Western Powers. But, Was this really, how events happened? Did Japan invade China and South East Asia? It seems so. However, the Propaganda does NOT say that for centuries, all Asia was invaded by Western Powers. England occupied India, Burma (Myanmar); Singapore, Malaysia and China (Hong Kong, Nanking, Shanghai, etc). France dominated all Indochina. The Netherlands intervened by the Force of its Arms, to all of Indonesia. And Belgium, Germany, Portugal, Spain, and of course, also the United States were in South East Asia cuz, for example this country, the US, occupied the Philippines since 1898. (Spanish-American War). Thus the panorama in the 30's, the Empire of Japan, when defeating to the Tsarist Russian Empire, it also decided to "Grow" by invading its neighbors. In those years, all European nations had colonies in Africa, India, the Middle East, Asia and America. (England came to occupy almost ¼ part of the planet). For its part, the US, in 113 years of existence as a nation in those years, had "Grown" 711 the size of its territory from its original 13 colonies. Now is the picture clear? Japan for its part, had fought on the side of the winners in World War I (1914-1918), and they, the Japanese, not awarded any "Gain". The western victors of WWI divided the world. Japan was excluded. Thus, Japan's motives for attacking and expanding as the Europeans and the US did seem clearer, right? Then they, the Japanese, attacked China in 30’s, which was occupied by 6 Western Powers for almost a century. None of the Western Powers occupying China at this time, OPPOSED or fought Japan for Invading China. NONE! Then, 11 years later after having occupied the territory of China and coexisted without any problem with the Western Powers within China, they, the Japanese, attacked Hawaii, which in turn, this Island had been occupied and annexed by the US in 1898. (In 1900-01, Hawaii became US territory and Hawaii ceased to be an independent nation after more than 630 years of sovereignty. By the time Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, the United States had just completed the 40th anniversary of the military occupation and annexation of Hawaii). They, the Japanese, attacked Singapore, which was then a Colony of England. They, the Japanese, attacked the Philippines, which were occupied by the US and whose Gov’r, Douglas MacArthur reined as Emperor. Yup… Truly like an Absolute Autocrat. Therefore, the Japanese did NOT attack (In the 40’s), Singapore, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Borneo, Timor, the Philippines, etc. In reality, the Japanese attacked England, France, Belgium, Holland, the US, etc. That is, the Japanese attacked the Western Powers invading all of Asia. That is the verifiable truth. But, Propaganda has made us believe that the good guys were us, the US. And of course… Nanking was a horrendous Genocide committed by Japan, but, it was no more horrendous than the 12 Genocides committed by the United States in his History and all over the world. Nor was it less horrendous than the Genocide committed by King Leopold II of Belgium, in Central Africa. Nor was Nanking more or less horrendous than the Genocides that the British Empire committed in America, Africa, Australia, Middle East, India and also in China too. And now, the Japanese are our friends and allies... Yup… But, to fight against China, AGAIN!!! Well… No More. No More British Malaya nor British Borneo nor British wherever. No More French Indochina. No More Dutch Indies. No More Portugese Domains. No More US Domain here. Asia is for Asians and “The China Sea” belongs to CHINA!!!
@R2Sam
@R2Sam Жыл бұрын
Sees part one and is hyped and prepared to wait a couple months for part two, preceeds to be pleasently suprised with sneaky full part two only to have an extra short at the end of that. I'm not sure I'm prepared to see how far down the rabbit hole I can go
@P99s-s
@P99s-s Жыл бұрын
You are legit the best KZfaqr for naval operations. Please continue! These are amazing and the perspective you use is exactly what’s needed to comprehend these battles fully. Thank you for your work.
@morganambler5281
@morganambler5281 Жыл бұрын
Not one, but TWO, Montemayor videos in the span of a weekend? Is this heaven?
@stephens021
@stephens021 Жыл бұрын
You are so good at this, thanks for the work you put into these.
@spacebar1111
@spacebar1111 Жыл бұрын
Oh cool this is up already! It's like finding an easter egg
@MontemayorChannel
@MontemayorChannel Жыл бұрын
haha yes. and there's one more easter egg at the end of this one as well.
@dhjoe2966
@dhjoe2966 Жыл бұрын
What a great 2 part video. I have been waiting a long time for Montemayor to produce this video. I have viewed to a lot of videos on the two carrier battles of Guadalcanal and this pair cut through the fog of war and excellently explained the intricacies of Fletcher and the Japanese commanders. I have to agree that Fletcher was given short shrift by Admiral King. Bravo to Montemayor!
@Melchirobin
@Melchirobin Жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the work you do to make these videos. Did not expect one video this month but got two on the same day. Great work and please keep them coming
@BradleyAMartinez
@BradleyAMartinez Жыл бұрын
@Montemayor As an armchair military historian, your videos are absolute crack to me. The perfect balance of historical facts, expert interpretation, and a sense of novelty with the a fog of war. I hope you know how much your videos are loved by people like me
@RagingAura
@RagingAura Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always, glad to have you back
@KohalaKai
@KohalaKai Жыл бұрын
Haha, you really got us with the unlisted video! Fantastic stuff, and absolutely admirable that you've produced two videos totaling over an hour and a half of highly detailed and informative content in such relatively short amount of time, given the capacity at which you operate. Thank you so much!
@chriswatchesvideos
@chriswatchesvideos Жыл бұрын
Can’t tell you how much I appreciate your research and skills putting these videos together. They are some of the best historical docs I’ve ever seen man!
@draugsvoll01
@draugsvoll01 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic channel, by far the best coverage of the Pacific War I've seen on youtube. Here's to the hope that the channel will have many future uploads. Cheers!
@michaelangelo5861
@michaelangelo5861 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for all you do. I watch and re-watch your videos because they are so well done. I've learned so much!
@greghanson3495
@greghanson3495 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for both of these videos and the bonus footage of the attack on the Enterprise. I'm already looking forward to your next effort.
@ezequieldg7509
@ezequieldg7509 Жыл бұрын
however long it takes you to put out another video, its totally worth it considering the quality of your content. thank you for your efforts!
@Gpz0
@Gpz0 Жыл бұрын
I was completely ready to wait a few months for this follow up, but there was no wait at all. Thanks Montemayor, I really appreciate the work you put into it. The fact that you could have fed us these videos one at a time to drum up interest but choose to wait is admirable. However, I know noone would mind if you want to release them in pieces, we really want to see your channel grow so you can make more videos. 😉
@deadlyfangs
@deadlyfangs Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing works, been waiting for you videos for months!
@musclesmouse
@musclesmouse Жыл бұрын
Nice! Thanks for coming back
@jefflozes8785
@jefflozes8785 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Incredible detail with objective opinions make these videos a "must watch" for Pacific War history enthusiasts.
@spongememefunnypants9101
@spongememefunnypants9101 Жыл бұрын
I hope you'll keep it this way man...Your channel is BY FAR the best ww2 naval battle analysis channel..
@InTheDarkMode
@InTheDarkMode Жыл бұрын
Thank you for coming back!!!
@kennethmurphy6621
@kennethmurphy6621 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video with great analysis of the battle. I especially like the two different POV & fog of war aspects of how the battle progressed.
@KenMathis1
@KenMathis1 Жыл бұрын
This is just too good. Thanks. I used to be upset that the science and history cable channels had gone to the dark side of reality TV. Then I realized that channels like this give me far more, and better, information than I've ever gotten before.
@imtiredtiredtired
@imtiredtiredtired Жыл бұрын
The "History" Channel is a lost cause
@henryplantagenet219
@henryplantagenet219 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic week - two videos from Montemayor after such a long time of waiting. After having watched the Savo Island Video 36 times I can add new real stuff. Thank you for the great work you do. Line very much your way of telling the stories - it’s much appreciated!!
@MontemayorChannel
@MontemayorChannel Жыл бұрын
Thank you henry! I'm glad you have enjoyed them.
@leonardogoycolea3364
@leonardogoycolea3364 Жыл бұрын
@@MontemayorChannel when the next one ???? please !!
@Superlegend56
@Superlegend56 Жыл бұрын
Soo glad I waited till the end of the last video. This is honestly such a treat, thanks Montemayor!
@PedroLopes-fn6hb
@PedroLopes-fn6hb Жыл бұрын
Your work is awesome man, take as much time as you need for the next one
@LazurBeemz
@LazurBeemz Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I was hoping for a Japanese POV, after that second strike force completely whiffed.
@bassdasdwadsasdasw
@bassdasdwadsasdasw Жыл бұрын
When you started talking about this video in the first part, I expected some sort of Nebula or Patreon pitch or something lol. Great work as always
@hashmagandy2012
@hashmagandy2012 Жыл бұрын
You’re back!. So glad to see these new videos, think your narrative and animations of Pacific WWII campaigns are by far the best on KZfaq. Thank you for sharing these ‘publicly’.
@davidhubeny396
@davidhubeny396 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your effort to make such great war history videos. I really enjoy the way you make them.
@pandora509
@pandora509 Жыл бұрын
i was delighted when i learned about japanese perspective at the end of first video, first i thought it will be ''to be continued'', thank you very much
@deaks25
@deaks25 Жыл бұрын
I've always considered the cracking of IJN Naval Codes at Midway to be a critical success factor for the USN and this battle emphasises that for me; had the Japanese not updated their naval codes, there's a good chance the Fletcher get's regular information on the IJN movements, which is likely to make for a very, very different battle. Once more, this was an excellent set of videos, I always enjoy the way Montemayor presents things, it creates such a unique take on historical events.
@chrissim4386
@chrissim4386 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Wasp would have been there for sure then - giving more spotting power and another proper attack air group. That could have substantially changed the outcome of the battle.
@josephraffurty9293
@josephraffurty9293 Жыл бұрын
Two videos in one day from your channel is a blessing! Huge fan of your work and attention to historical detail!
@davidk6269
@davidk6269 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for another deep dive into key WW2 Pacific theatre naval battles! I really enjoy your content. Great job!
@stamasd8500
@stamasd8500 Жыл бұрын
Wow, not one but two... wait three?!? videos at once. :) It's always a good day when you upload. Nay, a good month. A good... year. Best battle analysis I have seen anywhere. Been subscribed ever since your Midway videos. I only wish you could have material posted more often - but I do understand the amount of research and attention to detail you put into these analyses is very time consuming, and am very grateful for you doing it. Please keep up the great work!
@MontemayorChannel
@MontemayorChannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for understanding. doing these videos, especial POV ones, take a lot of time to do. as you see, I pretty much end up telling the battle twice, thus twice the work. But when it's all said and done, I think they are worth it.
@juanpabloramirez7523
@juanpabloramirez7523 Жыл бұрын
Ambos bandos aprendieron muchas lecciones en Midway. Sin embargo, se me hace increíble que los tomadores de decisiones imperiales siguieron tomando los optimistas reportes de sus valientes, pero exagerados aviadores, sobre el daño causado al enemigo como verdades indudables. No tomaron ninguna precaución para verificar si la información era correcta y además tomaron decisiones estratégicas críticas en la última fase de la batalla en base a lo que sus pilotos les reportaron. Lección no aprendida.
@streetfightinmanrs
@streetfightinmanrs Жыл бұрын
Excellent work. I appreciate that this video was concealed until the first was completed. It’s a shame that Fletcher ended up being relieved by Nimitz and King, he made the best possible decisions with the information he had.
@mistibarbee8043
@mistibarbee8043 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m so glad you came back. You make these historic battles so interesting and understandable. I finally know what’s going on. Thank you.
@Midlandlandman
@Midlandlandman 9 ай бұрын
You are my favorite KZfaq account. Your delivery and in depth information is so great. Please keep making videos!
@catcraft2374
@catcraft2374 Жыл бұрын
Could you make a Battle of Leyte gulf video. I love your videos and I know it was a big battle but there is not many videos about is.
@armandomendoza9028
@armandomendoza9028 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! One thing that strikes me is the reluctance of Japanese Navy Commanders to fully commit in order to achieve all their stated objectives. From Nagumo's refusing the 3rd strike in Pearl Harbor and Tanaka's prematurely retiring his cruiser force in Savo Island, time after time it seems like Japanese Commanders just stopped halfway to total victory and be OK with just a partial one. Regardless faulty intelligence, apparently Yamamoto and Nagumo's decision to take their carriers away and left Tanaka alone was in the same trend of calling quits when the going was still good and no press their luck. Sometimes it seems like Japanese commanders had some kind of weird "fear of success" syndrome... I wonder if such reluctance was due to strategic analysis and doctrinal thinking focused on avoiding risks and preserving the IJN's main force for the expected "final mega battle" vs the USN... or it was actually due to some kind of psychological barrier to carrying a battle on until reaching its definitive conclusion.
@edwardlong189
@edwardlong189 9 ай бұрын
Excellent description, well explained.
@ziEpEtajs
@ziEpEtajs Жыл бұрын
Awesome job! I'll surely be waiting for the next one!
@yifanwang3978
@yifanwang3978 Жыл бұрын
Almost missed this one had I not watched every second of the last one,
@spacebar1111
@spacebar1111 Жыл бұрын
What I still fail to understand is why radio operators didn't try to confirm messy or inaudible reports. They can just ask them to repeat no?
@davidbuckley2435
@davidbuckley2435 Жыл бұрын
The risk there is that if the carrier sends a message requesting a repeat report, that might give away the carrier's position. Radios back then were omni-directional, so you couldn't limit your transmission to a single bearing.
@elektrotehnik94
@elektrotehnik94 Жыл бұрын
@@davidbuckley2435 You got a point there.. A pissible concern: If many planes submit 2 or more repeats of the reports (one at once, one closer to the carrier), you just painted a vector towards your home carrier. Very bad. ^^
@KenMathis1
@KenMathis1 Жыл бұрын
@@davidbuckley2435 True, but communications were so vital that they should have come up with a work around. After all, battles were lost over missed/garbled communications. Carriers could have sent a communications aircraft some distance away that would receive/confirm high value reports. If their location is found, it's no big deal since the carrier isn't there. It could even pretend to be the carrier to divert attention. From the carrier's point of view, they'd get a chance to catch the initial report, plus any confirmation traffic with the communication craft.
@SiegAgus
@SiegAgus Жыл бұрын
Please keep up the great work, it's amazing to see the quality and the love you bring to every video.
@KnightNave
@KnightNave Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this!!!
@ares106
@ares106 Жыл бұрын
feel so bad for the scout planes, they always selflessly sacrifice themselves to report a position.
@artificialintelligence8328
@artificialintelligence8328 Жыл бұрын
the MVPs nobody acknowledges...
@colonelreb1014
@colonelreb1014 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for these videos. Been waiting on them for a long time.
@simtill
@simtill Жыл бұрын
We can be thankful that you have such a cool hobby and the skills to visualize and narrate these events. Thank you.
@Temp088
@Temp088 Жыл бұрын
Man this and the video you released earlier are so interesting. The Marathon of Mistakes in the decesion making moments is turly amazing.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Жыл бұрын
The Enterprise was so lucky.
@fenner1986
@fenner1986 Жыл бұрын
Hey there Montemayor. Any chance you plan on doing a breakdown on the Leyte Gulf battle? I would really love to see your breakdown of the largest naval battle of WWII and how people like Halsey and Kurita came to their fateful decisions that day as you have an absolute knack for explaining the mindset of such commanders and put us the audience in the hotseat to understand their thinking. Love your work man, hope this message finds you healthy and well!
@jimyoung9262
@jimyoung9262 Жыл бұрын
Yes please!!!
@tewks4458
@tewks4458 Жыл бұрын
This has gotta be the coolest way to present battlefield information I've seen on youtube. If you keep making these types of vids I will keep watching.
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 Жыл бұрын
Yours is one of the very few channels whose videos I immediate "like" (before even viewing) and for which I will watch all ads and even click on some. Your work is appreciated and I hope KZfaq conveys that to you. I looked forward to this followup video and you completely delivered. This battle is usually a mere footnote in military history books, or at best boiled down to mere numbers. You took me there; for that you have my thanks. The followup video was amazing! I can see why you seperated it as it enhanced the information but also would have muddled the account. It works very well as a chilling stand-alone detail. I recommend it to all.
@CassidyListon
@CassidyListon Жыл бұрын
It's actually quite frightening how much the Japanese adapted and learned from all the mistakes they made on Midway. It's a good thing they found new mistakes to make this time.
@brianl7321
@brianl7321 Жыл бұрын
Yet another great video! The vagueness and chaos of WW2 carrier combat is really fascinating and makes this style of analysis very useful
@NecroMalkor
@NecroMalkor Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back! Amazing video! 🤩 I can't wait to see your future content!
@blitzevans4273
@blitzevans4273 Жыл бұрын
I really like your presentation style and thoroughness. seeing battles from both sides with and without the fog of war adds to the experience. Thanks!
@darbya1644
@darbya1644 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Both parts are excellent! I really enjoy how you made use of the different perspectives in order to give a more "genuine" impression of the battles
@ethanbrown7198
@ethanbrown7198 Жыл бұрын
You have the best WWII videos of engagements that I've seen on KZfaq. I love your content, I hope you include more!
@cdk68
@cdk68 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the glorious content
@leighdee2084
@leighdee2084 7 ай бұрын
Great, detailed work. Excellent
@Rummeltobi
@Rummeltobi Жыл бұрын
I'm super excited for the next video! Keep up your fascinating work!
@EnderCrypt
@EnderCrypt Жыл бұрын
extremely excited for the next video, the quality of these videos is so good, thank you for the good content!
@johnshoosmith
@johnshoosmith 2 ай бұрын
Wow, you obviously put SO MUCH WORK into this! Fantastic job. I thoroughly enjoyed that and all of its detail, and the accompanied visuals also well done. Great audio too!
@Oznius
@Oznius Жыл бұрын
Wow, was not anticipating a new video this soon, I'm in the middle of watching the savo island video. You're doing great work here! I look forward to seeing more of your videos, be it in a few weeks or a few years.
@pokipua
@pokipua Жыл бұрын
Your efforts on these videos are greatly appreciated.
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