Battleship Positioning - The Push Timing Example #1 - Bajie

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Flamu

Flamu

4 жыл бұрын

Moving on to the next logical step of understanding positioning, understanding when and how to push into the enemy. When is it beneficial and potentially game winning, and when is it just plain suicide?
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@Flamuu
@Flamuu 4 жыл бұрын
By the way, here's a pre-emptive list of ships I'd planned to give away upon reaching 100k subs, what do you think? twitter.com/flamuchz/status/1269740081767686144 Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/ Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz Discord: discord.gg/Flamu
@beepboop9268
@beepboop9268 4 жыл бұрын
How can we win one of these?
@grandadmiralraeder9608
@grandadmiralraeder9608 4 жыл бұрын
Looks good. But how to win one?
@rildain76
@rildain76 4 жыл бұрын
Free ships always sound good!
@blubblub9489
@blubblub9489 4 жыл бұрын
Flamu I dare you to make a battleship positioning guide for German BBs on the map Two Brothers
@grimmshredsanguinus2915
@grimmshredsanguinus2915 4 жыл бұрын
hahahahaahahahahahahah i think u must pay him with doubloons for that
@arlingo
@arlingo 4 жыл бұрын
Mid rush
@ErulianADRaghath
@ErulianADRaghath 4 жыл бұрын
SPESHUL!!
@samleake2528
@samleake2528 4 жыл бұрын
COWABUNGA IT IS.
@crevieauxquentin9657
@crevieauxquentin9657 4 жыл бұрын
Flamu on German bb's? Considering he says GK is crap and that its primary range is a problem, I'm not sure it's a good thing to wish him to play the brawler.
@Diisonbravo
@Diisonbravo 4 жыл бұрын
Great work Flamu having so much more fun with BBs now.
@-Spartan-Lifestyle-
@-Spartan-Lifestyle- 4 жыл бұрын
Yeap, all 3 parts of this guide are great!
@spencerdunklebarger5418
@spencerdunklebarger5418 4 жыл бұрын
is it just me or is flamuu saying yamato the most satisfying thing ever
@Ace42x
@Ace42x 4 жыл бұрын
Smoke-blapping guide is tops, whiney Smolensk accused me of hacking when I blind dev-striked him. Got any advice for working around battleship guns that love to Overpen (Alsace, Richelieu / Gasgogne, Roma, I'd put Izumo in there too, maybe some of the KM)? They seem to be "bounce off the front / overpen through the broadside" disaster areas. I end up ignoring a lot of the more troublesome cruisers in favour of shooting battleships because at least on the latter I know my shells will arm; that or I go for the gun turrets if close enough to hit them - but that's nowhere near as satisfying as getting those citadels.
@Jez3134
@Jez3134 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime I disable their turrets, something triggers in BB players minds and they always go for the ram
@TheCommanderswat
@TheCommanderswat 4 жыл бұрын
@flamu the riga lost all its hp 2 seconds after your shots missed and said "and he didnt get punished" :D
@Flamuu
@Flamuu 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, clarification, didn't get punished by me!
@onebigfatguy
@onebigfatguy 4 жыл бұрын
Lol the Alaska tore him a new asshole.
@jakobsarsgaard6167
@jakobsarsgaard6167 4 жыл бұрын
@Flamu I just looove when u tell Jingles to "Shut up, old man" and Jingles just laugh his ass off
@hokkikokki
@hokkikokki 4 жыл бұрын
More of these how to play "chess" with ships! Rly good video yet again!
@alexblazquezvelarde8677
@alexblazquezvelarde8677 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, WG didn't hate German BBs
@flashtirade
@flashtirade 4 жыл бұрын
So you've always arrived late?
@thelvadam2884
@thelvadam2884 4 жыл бұрын
So 5 years ago ?
@Taeschno_Flo
@Taeschno_Flo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the BB guides, got me quite well or at least fun games, after starting this game to the Bayern so far. Yeah, im a noob, so great to learn something new and helpful!
@grimmshredsanguinus2915
@grimmshredsanguinus2915 4 жыл бұрын
just stick to the flank.. u dont want any cruisers to burn u to death in the midle
@BPKPhoenix
@BPKPhoenix 4 жыл бұрын
Midway: *IM GONNA RAM YOU!* Baiji: Hoooh, so you're approaching me!
@iROWiki
@iROWiki 4 жыл бұрын
Somehow this showed up in my feed and while I am fascinated in the game I have not played it yet, but your video was very easy to follow. Thank you!
@kylefitzsimmons2565
@kylefitzsimmons2565 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving this series
@meatballg8655
@meatballg8655 4 жыл бұрын
Flamu: tries to make video to help the community with positioning The community: cyka cyka push mid rush b
@hetzhornchen7319
@hetzhornchen7319 4 жыл бұрын
i love these videos in which you tell how to play the ship :)
@RysenKai
@RysenKai 4 жыл бұрын
*furiously taking notes*
@grizzz6884
@grizzz6884 4 жыл бұрын
great vid , i have been looking at your clock to see at what time to push , i see i need to hold back a bit
@JessWLStuart
@JessWLStuart 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome instructional video! Again! Thanks :)
@Dorkrust
@Dorkrust 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting example, definitely a well played mid to late game. Early game was a gimme with the Monty and Soyuz not turning south and angling against both you and the Yamato which is a wild oversight on their part. GG tho Flamu, love your content and insight.
@techignorance4435
@techignorance4435 4 жыл бұрын
Two brothers central positioning guide thanks!
@Deadlydel
@Deadlydel 4 жыл бұрын
You realise you've increased the amount of people playing BB's recently right? Good job! 👏
@Dominus_Potatus
@Dominus_Potatus 4 жыл бұрын
lol... for me... I changed to cruiser
@jahnavmudoi4448
@jahnavmudoi4448 4 жыл бұрын
Title: Example #1 Thumbnail: Example #3 Me: *visible confusion*
@azerhero
@azerhero 4 жыл бұрын
2020 : chaos everywhere around the world flamu : let's make another chaos
@theenhancer
@theenhancer 4 жыл бұрын
"Taking you're time, lining up that sweet shot", only for RNG to troll you.
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat 4 жыл бұрын
That was a dang skillful push. Almost makes me want to play the game again lol
@SebaX92
@SebaX92 4 жыл бұрын
1:43 yeah that was me on forum saying this. Fun fact 3 of those BBs were a full div. Next day same crap I saw when I was playing my DD. Though today I didn’t see it maybe people learned not all yolo B on their BBs.
@SergioMerendino
@SergioMerendino 4 жыл бұрын
nicely explained
@descriptiondescriptiondescript
@descriptiondescriptiondescript 4 жыл бұрын
You are so close to hitting 100k subs :O!!!
@hajka7887
@hajka7887 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see such video with Soviet BBs, thanks for your content
@tonkatoytruck
@tonkatoytruck 4 жыл бұрын
Cross fire the flank from the middle. Pray one of the enemy flanks collapse. Push up once the dds are identified\killed. Got it!
@slam_down
@slam_down 4 жыл бұрын
Hi bro. If you do that kremlin push video then you have to follow it up by a bourgogne video to showcase the contrast in armour characteristic of each of these ship and what difference in approach and play-style is required when jumping from one to the other
@Toxik_Tobi
@Toxik_Tobi 4 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@derunbekannte2074
@derunbekannte2074 4 жыл бұрын
Hey @Flamu are you going to do something similar for other classes as well? DDs and CA/CLs? I would appreciate it!
@Pliskkenn
@Pliskkenn 4 жыл бұрын
More positioning videos! I'd love some RN BB ones.
@Shadow.24772
@Shadow.24772 4 жыл бұрын
well, since you started, when BB is done how about some cruiser and DD positioning guides? if you decide to do it, please, for cruisers make for low tier and high tier :D
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu 4 жыл бұрын
Filed for near future needs under "How to play Izumo." Which 4-point skill would you take first, FP or CE? Would you consider sacrificing AR and EL to take BOS?
@demosearies7591
@demosearies7591 4 жыл бұрын
The german bb's biggest problem was not aiming for your turrets.. it is at least for me, very very good at that range for taking turrets out..
@kagavc6278
@kagavc6278 4 жыл бұрын
The problem of mine trying to hold the center position and try to get juicy broadsides is that my teammates on both flanks are too bad or too scared to have critical impact on the enemy. And it always ended up in me and a few survivors being bullied in a massive crossfire.
@amirulasyraf9199
@amirulasyraf9199 Жыл бұрын
I know it's late but it's never to late to learn something new. Is this playstyle appliable to any BBs? How about ships that likes to brawl eg: Kremlin, Bismarck/Tirpitz etc?
@TheFuzzypuddle
@TheFuzzypuddle 4 жыл бұрын
roflmao... "i'm not sure if i really have to spell it out for you guys..." have you seen us? yea, i'm pretty sure you need to spell it out for us.
@FourTetTrack
@FourTetTrack 4 жыл бұрын
Too true...
@dusvlf0419
@dusvlf0419 4 жыл бұрын
ok, i'll try this with my lenin and soyuz!!
@theenhancer
@theenhancer 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Flamu, might I recommend for the next video a ship that has difficulty with positioning due to its speed, like the Colorado and New Mexico?
@TastierBackInThe80s
@TastierBackInThe80s 4 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing as others. When up into the mid after watching the last video and got it handed to me. The opposition's two CVs deleted me and my team basically split onto either flanks and pushed hard from the start.
@Dawgsofwinter
@Dawgsofwinter 4 жыл бұрын
I usually prefer a flank in my ANGRY PIG and the range anymore is often worth the slower turret traverse. I'm one of the oddballs that likes Izumo over Yamato.
@ShakaNFSW
@ShakaNFSW 4 жыл бұрын
I would like a central position example but with a German ship, but not A TX, the Bismarck
@haikyuu6038
@haikyuu6038 3 жыл бұрын
what can u do if u play ijn bb and focused by torpedo air crafts
@Jax2777
@Jax2777 4 жыл бұрын
Rule #1 from a BB to a DD, do not launch torps when your friendly BB is brawling
@thiagosantiago1704
@thiagosantiago1704 4 жыл бұрын
Flamu can you upload more videos where you are in maps with a bunch of islands in one of the sides or maybe both like in the last one with Yammy? would like to see how much oportunitys and how you create them when dealing with this. Also can you upload one or two in epicenter mode? i think epicenter is the name of the game mode when the 3 caps stay in the mid of the map.
@grimmshredsanguinus2915
@grimmshredsanguinus2915 4 жыл бұрын
im looking forward for a t10 baguette potition and a tea t10 bb potition
@zarlev9083
@zarlev9083 4 жыл бұрын
How do you do that closeed up aimming at 11:15 with such smooth frame rate and control? ı have never seen what. in thoose close up situations i either use the normal camera angle( which makes it kinda hard to aim in a certain place at point blank range ) or ı get on the turret view but that also causes my frame rate to drop to a significantly lower rate then normal ( ı get about 40-50 normal but in drive by and CQC it drops to 5-10 at best 15)
@solomonzweig1551
@solomonzweig1551 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a dd positioning guide with Kleber.
@descriptiondescriptiondescript
@descriptiondescriptiondescript 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do one for the GK as well?
@bakhtiaraljefry164
@bakhtiaraljefry164 4 жыл бұрын
Good tips and hopefully you can guide many potatoes of CA to use radar and catch the dds. Too much potatoes CA want farm BB n then being blop by BB.
@mateuszsobich8113
@mateuszsobich8113 4 жыл бұрын
Flamu what about BB positioning guide for map Shatter? For ships like Georgia or Massachusetts?
@repaleonhalo9754
@repaleonhalo9754 4 жыл бұрын
Ah that montana man.. Yesterday i was going to rush around the corner in my hipper to torp a Lenin.. My bismarck killed me with hes back turrets,, and ofcourse you dont get any exp compensation or something..
@SnipeExpert1
@SnipeExpert1 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a site or something where you can see the sigma of ships ?
@perocean3992
@perocean3992 4 жыл бұрын
I was lucky I saw this game on stream
@edwardtabuno3547
@edwardtabuno3547 4 жыл бұрын
hi @Flamu cant you do Georgia please thanks and more power :)
@postron5649
@postron5649 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Flamu, Im relatively new to WoWS and I dont understand what you use the letter sigma for here. I know sigma primarily as the standard deviation however a higher standard deviation would imply less accuracy rather than more as you say in the video. What is the letter used for in WoWS?
@justin870116
@justin870116 4 жыл бұрын
They should made your video mandatory to watch for all the players. It will improve the general gameplay so much. Therefore save some players who wants to quit the game all together because teammates are acting extremely stupid all the time....
@EmperorNefarious1
@EmperorNefarious1 4 жыл бұрын
You're making me a better WoWS player... I don't know if that's a good thing
@IconProduction01
@IconProduction01 3 жыл бұрын
3:09 - There was an "Omnevoi" in the center.. Is that some kind of new testing phase premium ship or something? :3
@peradith0163
@peradith0163 4 жыл бұрын
holy shit i have never seen that much xp in one game
@azfarabdullah5115
@azfarabdullah5115 4 жыл бұрын
Need a GK guide please
@Dominus_Potatus
@Dominus_Potatus 4 жыл бұрын
I found it amushing.... Somehow... I got better results if I use center positioning with Azuma but do worse with BB....
@XHitsugaX
@XHitsugaX 4 жыл бұрын
will this be steel/coal ship?
@piotrlitwic5935
@piotrlitwic5935 4 жыл бұрын
This build doesn't seem to work on Bismarck. Perhaps a secondary or a hybrid build pls?
@danielharrison9624
@danielharrison9624 4 жыл бұрын
are the american bbs good at central positions or should you use them more like the Japanese bbs
@danielharrison9624
@danielharrison9624 4 жыл бұрын
sorry let me rephrase are the should the tech tree American bbs be more aggressive topush or should you snipe like the yamato from the center?
@tristanjones7217
@tristanjones7217 Жыл бұрын
I play my Montana in the center of the map to snipe, it works well for me
@nadlisse9055
@nadlisse9055 4 жыл бұрын
everything is better with Yamato gun sound
@Xaildra
@Xaildra 4 жыл бұрын
pls do a video like this withe a Roma
@Dominus_Potatus
@Dominus_Potatus 4 жыл бұрын
Can you answer my question: How do you play Azuma? If I use AP, it is basicly overpen... Is it a long range ship? Short range ship? I have an identitiy crisis with Azuma... I win lots of rounds, but hard to be Top 5 with it
@miyano3116
@miyano3116 4 жыл бұрын
She's basically a long range HE spammer
@nikanotsane
@nikanotsane 4 жыл бұрын
That zao did a good work even though he complained about poor teammates and cried in chat all game
@1110jesse
@1110jesse 4 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand how it works this well for you.. I mean if I were in your position in this game, what would happen is my teammate would turn tail towards J line and run away. In a different map with similar 3 caps in E line, and I did go to G7, so between B and C caps. I was playing vladivostok, and I had a friendly Montana there who decided to run away and camp at J8 when 2 enemy BBs (vladi and georgia) came through the cap. I ended up in crossfire, got farmed and killed by those BBs, and that georgia at the end of the game ended up ramming that montana after blapping him for 50k dmg.. and worst part is, I blapped that georgia twice really hard at perfect boardside, he had below 3k health at some point.. the game was a typical weekend disaster.
@bluerendar2194
@bluerendar2194 4 жыл бұрын
If you pay attention to it, he's pushing up *with* the JB, and as the JB turns away towards the end (but gets killed during it), he slows down In any case, pushing is something you do when you are fairly *safe* to do it or you *need* to Given it's a friendly Monty and you're in Vlad, you're a T8 BB in T10 MM, so you need to play it safer. Should you be pushing with a Monty, the Monty should be taking point, and you should stay safer in a farther back position - and you should be paying attention to what the Monty is doing/can do, and planning possible next moves around it. Well, unless it was a desperation push, then can't really do much about that
@joshuasantos3692
@joshuasantos3692 4 жыл бұрын
Can we please get a German bb positioning guide!
@grimmshredsanguinus2915
@grimmshredsanguinus2915 4 жыл бұрын
on ocean!!!
@Glider5858
@Glider5858 4 жыл бұрын
stefanos perivolaris lolooololol
@florianbielawa2919
@florianbielawa2919 4 жыл бұрын
1:46 THINKING'S MAN ACTION GAME
@rockykong3134
@rockykong3134 4 жыл бұрын
Bajie is a pan-Asia ship from China
@damiangracafreitas3260
@damiangracafreitas3260 4 жыл бұрын
1*
@V-V1875-h
@V-V1875-h 4 жыл бұрын
I have Izumo since yesterday, I get 100k damage each match, only two wins...... Aaaaaaaaa
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela 4 жыл бұрын
Why the thumbnail and title is different?
@user-eq6te1mw8e
@user-eq6te1mw8e 4 жыл бұрын
i bet this ognevoi is one of the dude who say omg he sailed into my torps what a noob
@derek96720
@derek96720 4 жыл бұрын
[BAH] - [jyeh]. That is all.
@6uiti
@6uiti 4 жыл бұрын
CV are more balanced i remember the time where one mistake and you had 3 taiho torpedo squadrons on your broadside
@guano64
@guano64 4 жыл бұрын
Wait if baje have 2.1 sigma and Izumi has 2.0 sigma, izumos sigma is better
@OberstStein
@OberstStein 4 жыл бұрын
Higher Sigma means better accuracy because the accuracy in game is 1/Sigma
@jorahtheandal243
@jorahtheandal243 4 жыл бұрын
wah im early
@haradimitroula3175
@haradimitroula3175 4 жыл бұрын
69 shells... thts why this game was that succesfull
@xolove0024
@xolove0024 4 жыл бұрын
Make video like this with Kremlin or G.Kurfurst XD
@hhhfghhh
@hhhfghhh 4 жыл бұрын
mfw i play ranked as scharnhorst setting up a crossfire, and my teammates angle towards me and eat citadels.
@filipplaczkiewicz1631
@filipplaczkiewicz1631 4 жыл бұрын
Kremlin please!😉🙃
@MG3Super
@MG3Super 4 жыл бұрын
@Flamu it's pronounced "j-ae" like jay, not "j-i", don't be misled by the spelling.
@Scholesy92
@Scholesy92 4 жыл бұрын
so again - please explain what the f*** point is of this when 2 cvs exist in every game and there is not a thing you can do about it? Please explain.
@user-sw1lj9qh5y
@user-sw1lj9qh5y 4 жыл бұрын
Title must be fixed How to position in BB when your teammate is dumb enough
@mv3592
@mv3592 4 жыл бұрын
Pigman
@soffici1
@soffici1 4 жыл бұрын
So, in order for your guides on centre positioning to work you need: 1) cooperating enemies that shoot a bow-in Yamato instead of a broadside Bajie; 2) team mates able to think and breathe at the same time; 3) potato enemy CV that goes for the good-AA JB instead of going for the no-AA Bajie, then tries to run away in the same direction of the incoming threat and finally tries to ram a BB; 4) total idiots in the enemy DDs, that go hunting butterflies on the map border instead of blapping the big fat BB in the centre of the map; 5) cooperating enemy BB players, first lining up on your bow instead of creating crossfires and then exposing broadside to shoot with the rear guns. In the real world (I.e. ANY server but the RU server) these things don’t happen too often: although there is no shortage of idiots, they tend either to cluster on your team (not the enemy) or to be evenly distributed, thus rendering any hope of cooperation from your team mates vain...
@vermillioncap8784
@vermillioncap8784 4 жыл бұрын
92 comment lol
@justbite6355
@justbite6355 4 жыл бұрын
Wtf is this Bajie dispersion?! It is sooo aweful.
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