Battleship Survivability & Cruiser Consistency

Battleship Survivability & Cruiser Consistency - Illinois First Impressions

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@minhqun Жыл бұрын

When you, a BB captain, embrace the inner Orkiness and ask the Navy for *Moar* *DAKKA*

@e_da_g2161 Жыл бұрын

This ship could've been so much more. The actual design for this also featured a redesigned superstructure (similar to Oregon City and Fargo class cruisers) with stronger AA and 36 127mm dual purpose secondaries. (18 twin turrets, 8 on each side and one fore and aft of the superstructure.)

@jaysonnunley6602 Жыл бұрын

which is why this is just more weegee bullshit fake design pasta

@never_forget9431 Жыл бұрын

Possible could be for a tech tree line.

@TheDgamesD Жыл бұрын

Thats the USS-Kentucky BB-66 Scheme "H"

@Aelxi Жыл бұрын

You're giving them ideas..... :0

@e_da_g2161 Жыл бұрын

They still could add Kentucky as maybe a T10 special ship with a ludicrous amount of Massachusetts secondaries, but I don’t see that happening anytime soon. WG isn’t prone to listening to complaints about historical inaccuracies.

@kovacsj7823 Жыл бұрын

Waiting for this ship since announced. Gonna make those BB main gun hit missions so much easier. I'm glad she's not for steel or dublon only, i can get her free, since i dont want to spend on this game anymore.

@jabaited Жыл бұрын

"You know what, fk this, i'm going cruiser" - Illinois

@oddforoddssake3751 Жыл бұрын

So: We’ve had battleships that want to be destroyers (Gneisenau, Tirpitz, Schlieffen) We’ve had battleships that want to be a carrier (Ise, Kearsarge) Now we have a battleship that wants to be a cruiser. How long before we get a battleship that wants to be a fricking submarine? 😂

@florianbielawa2919 Жыл бұрын

we had that already, all the US battleships from Pearl Harbor

@baronofrhodes1185 Жыл бұрын

If you ask CV players, all BBs are submarines...

@thewatcher4585 Жыл бұрын

Careful. There was a real Japanese submarine that wanted to be an aircraft carrier.

@Dragons_Armory Жыл бұрын

@@thewatcher4585 It's pretty much guarenteed the Japanese carrier subs will be eventually featured as a premium

@flatoad6950 Жыл бұрын

@@florianbielawa2919 💀

@NDK0 Жыл бұрын

I half expect the next big thing is Super-Island-Ships... Nickname SIS, they are huge mobile islands with thousands of guns, all of which has a few seconds of reload time, and an No-cooldown radar.

@joshuaraewa-ay9684 Жыл бұрын

Take one look at Kaneda's battleship and the description of the SIS would fit in. Save for the latter two. Though I doubt the devs would stop at that point, considering the state it's in right now. Imma be throwing a fit if Superships from Warship gunners are added here.

@someoneinasia Жыл бұрын

you can expect a new line soon with the same idea, BB hull with cruiser guns

@madduckuk Жыл бұрын

Just before the Halford style hybrid destroyer line...

@jaywerner8415 Жыл бұрын

They better not! That would just be taking the PISS. Still this ship IS a Real Design that was planned, a few cosmetic differences aside.

@dominges Жыл бұрын

Imagine the Sov Tree... A whole line of Stalingrads. Way to power creep Kremlin, Petro, Stalin and Slava.

@nikoskapa1519 Жыл бұрын

and a supership on top of those with a reload booster or something

@EternalGaming786 Жыл бұрын

@@nikoskapa1519 calm down Satan. :'3

@intangible_kant Жыл бұрын

PQ gets a new ship: "Maybe building for AA will work this time!" I kid. Thanks for covering the Illinois, definitely an interesting ship!

@DotDotDotDashDashDashDotDotDot Жыл бұрын

So weird to not hear a big boom every time the gun fires.

@Rider-zr7ix Жыл бұрын

Awesome ship OMG can't wait to play this thing! Great video btw. You do a great job on your videos thanks for showing.

@fighter5583 Жыл бұрын

To note, the current USS Illinois is a Virginia-Class sub.

@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43 Жыл бұрын

SSN's took over BBs in terms of being named after states, quite rightfully in my opinion. If you think about it, SSN with big guns (Strategic nukes) and heavy armor (sea water) are actually the most fitting successors to the BBs anyway. They are not the lackluster phish that their predecessors were, they are actually expensive forces to be reckoned with. But they are still not honored enough to fight any armed target that could fight back, old habit dies hard it seems.

@Airwalkerstudios Жыл бұрын

Based on the title I thought you were roasting a normal bb for having bad pen LOL

@joedoe6444 Жыл бұрын

this will be a must have for those missions that require you to get X number of MB hits in a BB. this will get it done faster than anything else in the game right now.

@wanderingnomad1241 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the intro to the Illinois - very interesting 👍

@Steelshadow104 Жыл бұрын

So my question is, doesn't this kinda make Yoshino/ Azuma obsolete? Sure it doesn't have the same alpha per salvo nor torps, but the amount of fires you can set in this thing and the reload can make up for that. Also the fact that it has an American battleship hull and aa, already way more survivability than the ijn supers

@sandville2396 Жыл бұрын

thanks, I know what my next ship will be 🤘

@gstormcz Жыл бұрын

I like this ship I'll probably get it too. Got only Ohio and Siegfried from RB, was thinking about either Paolo Emilio or Vampire II, but DDs are usually my 3rd choise. As I had my shy personal record with Iowa for some time and loved that ship and playing Des Moines in CBs mostly, this is must for me.

@rowinglove4ever Жыл бұрын

As a dd main for the past two years i suggest you to get vampire II! I play mostly Kleber , Marceau, Daring , Smaland, Ragnar, Khaba, F Sherman, Kitakaze but mostly i love the Groningen! i belive the combo smoke+ hydro is the best for strong dds! vampire ii is a better Groningen she get amazing dpm a little less than smaland but she get the best fire starter chance of all dds on game!

@SpartanGIS2 Жыл бұрын

Curious what mods you use, and how you move them around? I don't remember that icon on the bottom left being standard when aiming at a target.

@AO_9 Жыл бұрын

Can I get a Ohio with the Worcester guns? I love WG physics btw.

@markdowne4629 Жыл бұрын

this is basically des moines with a massive hull which can be used for tanking and brawling with crusiers, not to mention the free range on the guns if you know how to lead the catapult US shells

@ceruleancrow5884 11 ай бұрын

First saw this while using Albemarle the other day. Got it mixed up with another US bb, safe to say I had a surprised pikachu face when he roughly matched my reload.

@guidobirgit Жыл бұрын

I like your videos and comments most

@guyincognito1560 Жыл бұрын

It's the dream! Des Moines guns sans squishiness. May have matches with 7 Illinois on each team quite a bit in the future. Love the Des Moines but island hugging can be an issue from time to time.

@Strykenine Жыл бұрын

I'll be getting this...thing.

@gothia1715 Жыл бұрын

Man those weird USN BBs they add recently... I guess next will be two North Carolinas welded together at T10. Of course with a flight deck across them and torp launchers in the radar mast. And it will outpace and outspot cruisers. Something like 35kts + speed boost on top cause gimmick mania. WG really lost it. Nobody asked for those complete bastardizations of ships but they throw them at us. Completely ignoring that there are still lots of real ships they havent implemented yet but many players would love to get.

@anidiot2818 Жыл бұрын

Fighting this ship in any T7 ship that isn't a DD has to be fun.

@danh7411 Жыл бұрын

For sure, thing can't even overmatch anything. Would love to farm it while receiving no damage in return.

@shadows4400 Жыл бұрын

Double uptiering should have been removed years ago... A colorado Vs any T9 is hell...same with T9 vs T11 now ☠☠☠

@anubhavdassharma1854 Жыл бұрын

It's literally a cruiser with BB armor 😂

@thelogicmatrix Жыл бұрын

@@shadows4400 I mean the player base is shrinking, because of weegees bullshit

@sLim88CPC 11 ай бұрын

@@shadows4400and T9 used to be the save haven MM wise, could face T10 max. Good old times. Today you can end up bottom tier in a T10. :(

@unemployed_history_major4795 Жыл бұрын

So now we have to contend with cruisers with BB armor and health, cruisers with smoke, cruisers with agility, and all of them can sit and HE spam to their hearts content. Great. Cannot wait to bounce AP off this thing while it chunks me every 8 seconds for 6k of my health by pressing the skill button…

@Gundolf300 Жыл бұрын

I imagine dealing high damage open water (or surviving in general) with this thing can be a nightmare since every time you fire you reset the detection countdown. So the ability to go dark between salvos is pretty much out the window.

@slowbro- Жыл бұрын

Looking at ship's icon next to its name, it's not a premium?

@Stoicismisourgreatestteacher Жыл бұрын

Now I want to see a CV with BB secondaries, a DD with BB guns, and a BB with DD guns

@sardaukerlegion Жыл бұрын

"I want to see a CV with BB secondaries" german Graf Zeppelin

@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43 Жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to an 203 sherman. Doubt it would be strong, but still it's a real test ship. 127 aa training boat wyoming tho? Maybe yes if it goes to play with Mikasa.

@jgalena1000 Жыл бұрын

HMS furious started out with 2 18 in guns (one forward and one aft) had the forward replaced with a flight deck and then later they removed the remaining gun to fit more dekc space.

@Stoicismisourgreatestteacher Жыл бұрын

@@sardaukerlegion that's not BB secondaries

@sardaukerlegion Жыл бұрын

@@Stoicismisourgreatestteacher Graf Z has Bismarck / Tirpitz secondaries, and Both are BBs.

@adrianionut8464 Жыл бұрын

i meet this ship recently....it was in the enemy team....our Musashi....sunk really fast

@tawelwchgaming8957 Жыл бұрын

Does the Illinois sit lower in the water than the Missouri/Iowa?

@TheWildcard4542000 Жыл бұрын

Does it get the American Heavy AP?

@Bill3528 Жыл бұрын

Yes!! More HE spamming torturous ships! Just what the game needed!!

@burt591 Жыл бұрын

It's a Des Moines that doesn't need to hide behind an island, *you are the island*

@dennisboulais7905 Жыл бұрын

If I have the Research Bureau points, do I take this or the Ohio?

@jamiemaclean5667 Жыл бұрын

Basically this ship is a DD with great armour, as the citadel is impossible to hit.

@sardaukerlegion Жыл бұрын

Buffalo guns, but BB size target and burn time? For RPs? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

@brochodoce5006 Жыл бұрын

what are your graphic settings? why does your game look so good? when I play On ultra it still looks like poop and looks all gray and washed out

@superleodu06 Жыл бұрын

Oh boy a des memes with steroids

@arczer2519 Жыл бұрын

at 17km+ ranges AP might be good choice, you can actually penetrate 50mm+ decks due to plunging fire and it has actually faster travel time. ofc how good its over a fire it's hard to answer.

@Sam_the_Spinosaurus Жыл бұрын

also since its a BB, that bell sound for the loaded guns are gonna be very frequent

@hectorc7080 Жыл бұрын

this ship appears to have a good potential for credit farming... dont you think?

@HOLO_Enjoyer Жыл бұрын

When was this coming out?

@AO_9 Жыл бұрын

Seems like it's coming this Thursday with patch 12.2 for 51k Research Points.

@joecarlson6428 Жыл бұрын

Looks like my next purchase

@AdamWieczorek-Vetinari Жыл бұрын

Why is 19 pt commander "Navy Elite"?

@Seluecus1 Жыл бұрын

I imagine this is WG's attempt to make Brawler-esc US BB's. Between the shorter range secondaries and the fire rate of the 302's... The section of BB line just screams midrange and cover fire, instead of sniper (MN line) or Midrange/Sniper (VT line). Honestly, i'd play it like a very large cruiser and keep the shorter range, in order for accuracy. The way you had the IL positioned at the beginning of the 2nd match was incredibly strong, and if the AP had actually smacked the Citadel of that cruiser, then the benefits would have been far outweighing trying to snipe in the thing. Also, if they did not change the mechanics of rams, then you retreating has the similar effect of running a ram flag.

@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Жыл бұрын

How long is the ASW range? If this gets longer than Ohio's 6km thats some bullshit.

@jamiemaclean5667 Жыл бұрын

That first game was the normal Random game nowadays. The winner was decided by MM and it was essentially all over by the seven-minute mark. A full stomp. I miss the classic games that went the full time.

@murillo160592 Жыл бұрын

at long range shells land almost on 90 degree angle... May AP pierce decks? insane

@pqfire0950 Жыл бұрын

Shoulda been a Georgia hull lol. Get those de moine guns and the georgia secondaries on am enemy haha

@lokkenfarms Жыл бұрын

Now we need a sub with cruiser guns as that is actually historical

@mysticdragonwolf89 Жыл бұрын

I got her - I’m still trying to get the play style down. I’m a “go at them guns blazing until I can hit them with my sword, tactics be damned!” type of player Obviously - cruiser, dd, and aircraft carrier are not my strong suit

@avimin Жыл бұрын

Hypothetically, let’s say you have Illinois and Ohio broadside to each other. Both have adrenaline rush and both fire AP, who would be the winner?

@CorsairCombat13 Жыл бұрын

So mad I got the pos Slava when this comes out this week

@gamingrootz4411 10 ай бұрын

In 15 hours, this ship will be mine! :D

@GameReplays- Жыл бұрын

so a massive cruiser

@donl7596 Жыл бұрын

After watching your first game, I thought the guns handle a lot like my Irian build. Its more of a torp/fire/concealment build. As an Irian player, who has often felt the pressure of trying to dodge every shot fired at me, having a little brawl might be nice.

@BigBass63 Жыл бұрын

Now I want a BB with a shit ton of de guns

@thanasisanagnopoulos9265 Жыл бұрын

Is this an older video ? why only 19 points captain ?

@dermaks_ Жыл бұрын

now waiting for the iowa hull just just fletcher guns

@diamondrmp Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why you had to ships flat broadside and didn't use AP.

@hiddentruth1982 Жыл бұрын

I can see that thing being really good against cruisers and dd's. really any ship that wants to kite out bb's.

@davidballantyne4492 Жыл бұрын

Maybe I missed it, but I did not hear you mention how to get this ship: It will be in the RB for 51k RP next patch.

@okanui Жыл бұрын

you missed it

@prisonerofthehighway1059 Жыл бұрын

For that reload I’d want at least battlecruiser dispersion. Battleship dispersion should have DM auto loaders.

@jozseftoth8731 Жыл бұрын

agreed

@Airtroops83 Жыл бұрын

you build for secondary range and take the skill that gives you main battery reload when targets are in secondary range. You cant be citadelled, use that, enhance the already good dpm. Play it like a des moines, dont even bother with most targets outside of 14km

@svnnyg 11 ай бұрын

Always use for main battery shell hits mission Haha

@maryceleste_aghost Жыл бұрын

Hull BB for light arm. That is what BC german, opposite is BC UK with heavy arm and light armor

@AllAhabNoMoby Жыл бұрын

Poor Colorado... "Nice and slow..." 😂

@Beep2bleep Жыл бұрын

This would be absolutely game defining in a tier 7-9 game. You could bully everything.

@Apollyon-er4ut Жыл бұрын

Good vid, but this ship just doesn't appeal to me, at least right now. Maybe after I play against a few, I'll feel different. It just seems like the Des Moines is better, and if you want the extra range, run a spotter instead of radar, then you also have Hydro.

@nineonine9082 Жыл бұрын

Surely this ship is gonna be op, I mean rng is what gets BBs , salvo just goes nope, also the fact they tend to have low dpm, if my cruiser could sit in the open trading with BBs be ez, let alone with twice the hp pool and a repair now.

@rasmus6705 Жыл бұрын

RNG gets them because it's the difference between a 60k salvo and 5k salvo. RNG in cruiser guns is the difference between 10k and 2k. I do think this ship will be strong but it won't have the DPM of a cruiser due to shite dispersion, and it won't have the damage potential of a BB due to low caliber guns. Just a sort off middle ground, so like most ships it can be played to both great success and horrible performance. Seems likely you will be playing HE spammer rotating between hiding behind islands and "tanking" from midrange, I have a strong feeling the AP will be nigh on useless except at close range broadsides given the BB dispersion formula and cruiser level damage payoff.

@danh7411 Жыл бұрын

What? This thing is gonna get turbo farmed by normal cruiser cause she can't overmatch them.

@hipperguy1654 Жыл бұрын

@@danh7411 is it your job to consistently post the most brain damaged comments and takes?

@nineonine9082 Жыл бұрын

At range probably yeah, but at close range with American AP your health pool will let you 1v1 them, just don't brawl or your gonna get fished, The ship made the trade off to crush most BBs and DDs easier at cost of Cruiser capability, you just gotta play her like a GIANT ASS AMERICAN cruiser, you don't trade unless it is favorable.

@danh7411 Жыл бұрын

@@nineonine9082 you mean the 3rd lowest hp for a tier 9 BB, Iowa's giant superstructure, Des Moines's paper turret and no overmatch? Sure, she can 1v1 a non German BB but the game isn't about fair 1v1.

@Allies_USA Жыл бұрын

1:22 no illinois got buffed to Battlecruiser disppersion during test, its no longer Battleship disppersion

@pigbay Жыл бұрын

BB with Destroyer guns is next

@thh1997ptvn Жыл бұрын

I mean, it’s already here since the beginning. It’s called “secondaries”

@jgalena1000 Жыл бұрын

USS Wyoming had her 12 inch guns replaced with 5 inch turrets so it's possible for low tier.

@KnodsilMemeMaker Жыл бұрын

Whats next? Cruisers with battleship guns? Oh wait...

@sardaukerlegion Жыл бұрын

..... Siegfried and Sevastopol....

@rccola5167 Жыл бұрын

I think I've got the points for it. 😊

@LordOfChains Жыл бұрын

I wonder if they'll make a tier X version and name it USS Second Amendment. Or maybe it'll be the USS Maximum Dakka.

@bruinsfan3725 Жыл бұрын

this shit is dented i love it

@savagepatty Жыл бұрын

Looks super fun but no way I’ll be grinding for it

@HippioKass Жыл бұрын

i want this ship so bad lol, a DM that doesnt get deleted the second it pops out from an island? yes plz

@yanniskouretas8688 Жыл бұрын

I know is sacrilege but I'm gonna reset a couple of lines to get this one - I don't care - I just want to have fun with the guns (it's always about the guns - either big ones or more of them )

@TRSG727 Жыл бұрын

Hmm Illinois in arms race

@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43 Жыл бұрын

This is a foolproof dm. Kinda glad it's locked behind research bureau so at least only people who can *somewhat* aim can get it, although still pretty unfortunate how expensive research point grinds are. Potatoes driving this would be so painful to watch.

@hiddentruth1982 Жыл бұрын

I have to lead more than that with my montana so it's not that bad really.

@atpyro7920 Жыл бұрын

this thing having more dpm than buffalo is hilarious to me. buffalo just sort of sucks. illinois uses the battlecruiser dispersion formula like georgia does, so it's still accurate for a battleship. the accuracy parameters are identical to georgia actually.

@helenjohnson4899 Жыл бұрын

this literally looks like something i built in From the Depths

@mikestion4629 Жыл бұрын

oh god i want this fucking boat

@tektkite7255 Жыл бұрын

Awesome work by the WG fucks! Now make a BB with smoke and Sherman guns! What this game really really needed is more HE spam. Hopefully they will put themselves out of business soon

@anubhavdassharma1854 Жыл бұрын

It's not that bad. Stop glorifying this. This game has bigger problems than DM on a hull as shitty as Iowa's hull

@evolutionari Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this, and honestly it looks ridiculous. This whole "Hybrid" mentality doesn't bring diversity, it brings annoyance. Long range accuracy BBs like Slava, or close range brawler like Schlieffen brings diversity. Or Shima vs Daring etc brings diversity. A BB with cruiser DPM is just outright nasty.

@TheDgamesD Жыл бұрын

I am still pissed off at the misnaming of a ship i brought to the devs year ago. This project was never intended for the BB-65 Illinois hull but was specifically drawn up for the more complete BB-66 Kentucky hull. I was the one who drug this up from Naval Archives, brought it up to the devs with all of its documentation and they turn around and change the state name which has incredibly pissed me off as this was the only project that ever carried my home state's name.

@alphariusomegon6711 9 ай бұрын

Perhaps they will do Kentucky as a T10, and as planned by the Navy? All those spicy secondaries and the trimmed down superstructure. Could definitely see them add it in as a T10 steel ship, but with like 7.5 second base reload.

@HAWK...214 Жыл бұрын

no matter how many new ships they bring out...nothing will fix this game or the ridiculous player base

@varanzmaj Жыл бұрын

Ahh yes, another meme ship by Wargaming reserved for the "L333T" players with every single line researched at least twice.....so by the time I will actually be able to buy this ship for research points...some time between now and the heat death of the Universe.....it will be nerfed into the ground or power-creeped by other, even better unreachable ships, while my own win ratio is blasted into the dirt, by those very same L33T players with access to the best ships in the game.....Thank You Wargaming. Thank You very much.

@Dbars19 Жыл бұрын

think ill just get the yolo Emilio and have fun

@watdeneuk Жыл бұрын

Oh boy, a 21km HE behind-island spammer XXL armored des moin keeping all bb's in that range perma-burned. Yeah that's really what this game needs right now...

@Jorakful Жыл бұрын

At this point i'm just waiting on WG to take on that idea of german Battlecarriers i've seen floating around on the internet. which would basically be Battleship-Carriers instead the other way around. Instead of taking a BB and slapping a Flight Deck on it, it would be a CV with Battelship or Cruiser guns slapped on it.

@vicdoesgaming7570 Жыл бұрын

Talk about a real battlecrusier

@Go_Spleef_Yourself Жыл бұрын

That's that streamers ram, I have rams slower than that all the time and it will count for 100% of my health despite being in a larger BB with ram flag

@robertboss2581 Жыл бұрын

They really just need to buff the Yodos turn circle and deck armor.

@frontsightm1a Жыл бұрын

This ship makes me sad. Illinois was a real thing. She was laid down and partially completed but canceled in 1945. Illinois was different than her sister ships, being an all welded design instead of riveted together like Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri and Wisconsin were. She would have been lighter and theoretically faster than the others. WG could have played off that, made Illinois kinda like a Georgia without overmatch. Maybe buff the secondaries a tad, since she was the newest of the class and whatever upgrades applied to the others would apply to her. Put a Georgia/Bourgogne speed boost on her, she could have played as a fast flanking BB.