That is true for most military sci-fi and most likely actual navy. While the commanding officers commands ship, the senior non-com have the run of the ships. They run everything below command level on a daily basis. Unless they too are new to a ship, they know more about a ship then any junior commanding officer.

That's like how in DS9 when Miles is on leave nothing in the station seems to work. Talk about job security.

Well, a chief engineer is making sure that a ship can still run. That is true for most engineers/mechanics if they had done the same thing over and over through the years. The same goes not only for ships, but for trucks, cars, planes and so on

When you commit and act of mutiny, you need the support of whoever runs the engineers and mechanics corp. of the ship in question. Otherwise your mituny is gonna be short lived.

they're inconsistent with him. Are they calling him chief in the sense that he's the head of engineering, so he's an officer but also a department head so they call him chief?(like Chief O'brien on star trek, he is an OFFICER but he's the head of the transporter officers so they call him Chief.) Or are they saying he's a chief in the sense of the US Navy rank "Chief", as in "Chief Petty Officer", which is the Navy version of what other branches call NCO (at least on submarines, we never say "NCO", that's army/marines/air force). If it's the latter, why was his rank displayed on the computer as "Senior Chief"?? In the Navy a Senior Chief is paygrade E-8 and you don't address them as "Chief"...you say "Senior" or "Senior Chief".

Not just that, but Lee behind Adama staring at Zarek. You feel the "You wanted to kill and replace MY Dad?"

So say we all

The intensity that EJO brought to this role was carried by so many others as well. A most remarkable series, with so many stories and arcs and even so, mysteries and the unexplained. You knew there was more. Just a great show.

you interpret too much it's the same look for both of them

Felix didn't want to hurt anyone, he just hated the Cylons, which is understandable.

Tom's only plan ever was ultimate power for himself at any cost. Like trudeau, like pelosi, like marcone, Zarek was willing to fight to hold on to ultimate power to the very end and didn't care if the cost was blood as long as it wasn't his.

@@deancain1841 every single decision Gaeta made here was counter survival.

@@gawainethefirst In his mind the Cylons were just waiting for a chance to kill them all and Adama was too blinded by his own Emotions to see it. Combine that with Zarek riling him up and his actions become very understandable. He wanted to ensure the survival of humanity without becoming dependent on the Cylons which would be the death of them or at least that’s what he thinks.

@@gawainethefirst every decision Gaeta made, made sense. Would you trust a race of robots that destroyed everything you knew and loved, that have been hunting what remains of your species, purely because they say they were bad but now they good?

He just oozed charisma in that role. A lot of the actors invested themselves emotionally in their roles more than most sci-fi shows before or after it, and Olmos is the best example of that.

The guy who played Hotdog was his son too.

WarGrowlmon18 wait what for real😳

@@video409 Yep. Bodie Olmos.

WarGrowlmon18 wow cool

I think it's the loss of the leg, the pain, the brutalization of humanity... 7 years and it could be just about ANYONE else that would eventually break in that manner.

@@kinagrill I totaly agree. I mean, of course he is guilty of treason, but the events he went through since new caprica, the tracking of treators after that (he nearly went through the airlock because nobody believed him despite all his efforts to help resistance), the search of earth based on an obscure intuition from a person showing strong signs of crazyness, and finaly, the lost of his leg, that would have broken many loyal people.

@@yoyoyoyos2868 Dualla blowing her brains out is basically the moment that breaks him.

He suffered so much. He didn't deserve to die.

@@skippertheeyechild6621 Agreed. A very hard scene to watch. Loved Dualla.

"Sir, it's the Enterprise!" also qualifies.

Agreed.

@@Argumemnon Unless it's Enterprise-C

He's not mad, just disappointed. Enough to put a few people in front of a firing squad.

@@HomoChomsky Deservedly so. You don't (intentionally) betray the entire human race and get away with it, whatever justification you can come up with. Zarek wanted power, and Gaeta was angry. In the end it got them both killed.

Lt Castillo couldn't have have had a more deadly expression when dressing down Sergeant Crockett.

If I faced that stare, I’d bawl

He's a classy guy, absolutely. He kept the dream alive, all that time and, as you said, practically singlehanded. It must have stung a hell of a lot to see someone else getting all that credit, but he still pitched in and gave his support.

It also plays into the theme of circular time, it's super meta if you think about it.

Wow! I grew up watching the original Battlestar Galactica before I was even in kindergarten. I wound up catching the reboot on DVD at 15 years ago. This is the first time I realized that the actor who played zarek was the original Apollo.

What do guys think about the planned re-reboot on Peacock!!!? I loved and still love that series, it was before Game of thrones and had a lot more intensity, turnarounds that no sci fi, fantasy series have known to this day!!!! The Expanse, was very weak...But i will not say the same for people that are LOST!!!!!!!!?

@@B20C0 Oh good gods I hadn’t even thought of that. It fits so well.

It’s always them innocent ones

The actress playing Dualla was ready to move on and asked to be written out of the final episodes.

@@Dularr Didn't know that.

​@@Dularr That's so messed up! She could've waited until the series finished and give Dualla a more deserved end on new Earth... It's not like she has done all that much after this show.

@@SirMattomaton she did get her chance at a main role on a NBC series. It lasted one season. Plus she did several TV movies.

That would be more Drummer Style... but different series.

Its like a Napoleon moment really, he knew the only way to avoid violence is if he is at front. He knew his crew at best love him and at worst respect him and know they wont shoot. If it was a marine at front there might have been shooting.

Personally, I wish Sharon had gotten to cave in Specialist Rapey’s head

I remember reading that the full scene actually had Adama walk into the CIC and immediately shoot one of the mutineering Marines, but they decided to cut that on the final edit and just show him walking in with gun raied.

@@Spectro108 They were obviously pondering writing the scene which guy Adama shoots, but I think they concluded to end these characters with a martial so it was unnecessary glorifying killing a random cast. But I can see it’s definitely within Adama’s character to pull a trigger to someone’s face considering he was about to nuke his own son at one point.

this is what the show lacked, a bit more science ... too expensive for the budget I guess

@@ioandragulescu6063 Wat.

@@ioandragulescu6063 "science"

@@ioandragulescu6063 There was never any reason to show it. Part of the show's success was not delving into wacky pseudoscience to explain why they can travel faster than light. That would just beg a lot of other questions like why they still had cars on Caprica that as far as we understood burned fossil fuels. This is Sci-Fi where space and ships are merely a setting, not a real aspect of the story unto themselves.

@@SpaceMonke99 yeah well, I would agree but the amount of viper/raptor tech, the refinery ship and other pseudoscience stuff that was present in the show begs to differ. Hell, they even explained to a point how a raider works, which I found a bit ridiculous, with Starbucks "hand&feet surgery" but well :) And Galactica's engine room appears ... once, for me it's clearly a monetary decision. Everything else they showed is small scale, easily produced with cables, wires, boards that are readily available but in order to make the engine room in "the bucket" look proper, they would have needed a lot of CGI and integration with real actors, harder to do. Personally I think it would have been amazing but yeah, that's that.

Fighting was always going on and his loyalists joined him as soon as they saw him going for it. In addition he turned all of the men sent to execute him to his side simply by stating that he was going to take back his ship.

Whoever people support is in control, Gaeta and Zarek had no support except for a few bought off soldiers. Adama had the entire ship behind him, quite literally.

@@astrick1768 What about Racetrack and Skulls?

The second they tried to shot Adama and an officer in the CIC threw himself in front of the bullet you knew it was never going to work. The love and respect for the old man saw someone jump in front of a bullet without hesitation. Then when you see him walking back with a group of armed supporters you see unarmed people crawling out of every goddamn doorway to join him. Zarek had no chance.

I was hoping hey'd win. Adama is a traitor.

Or the Chief Medical Officer, they have the authority to declare anyone unfit for duty, be they just maint crew or the admiral running the show. Dr. Sherman Cottle certainly knew that. ^^

Just like the chief of engineering on the battlestar Pegasus when he saved the ship.

I was always bummed that he got completely shafted in the end. :(

There's a miniseries called "Face of the Enemy" that reveals he had personal experience of betrayal by a Cylon. During the Occupation, a lot of people _died_ because Gaeta trusted a Cylon. That _really_ pushed him over the edge.

@@epiendless1128 Sad thing is Gaeta didn't appreciate that even more people lived because of that trust. Even if that particular Eight had betrayed it.

@@epiendless1128 It's madness that story was relegated to a lost webisode series. It should have been an episode in itself in the main series. It was really important to set up Gaeta's increasing bitterness and paranoia and to understand where he was coming from. It also filled in blanks about what Gaius whispered into his ear in S3 and what happened on New Caprica etc.

@@epiendless1128 I had no idea there was a web series other than Blood & Chrome. Any more I missed?

@@epiendless1128 what miniseries?

I'm not disputing that the head tilt isn't used in Chicano society, but it's common in many cultures to demonstrate wordless commands.I think it probably dates back to the dawn of civilization as a symbol for 'do the thing that it's obvious I want you to do'. Of course, the way he delivers it is powerful and why I feel that Olmos is such an underrated actor.

Lt Castillo taking charge of Galactica :)

I'm not remotely Chicano and I grew up with the head tilt thing.. as a normal expression among all. course my best friend was Mexican. that might have had something to do with it. 🤔

@@Maplelust My sister and our father communicate in head tilts and eye gestures and it sometimes freaks people out when we have entirely wordless conversations.

That's a.... Perfectly normal thing in all cultures. It's an obvious signal. Babies do it.

I SWEAR ITTTTT I'M COMING FOR ALL YOUUUUUUU

Don't even go there dude okay don't even compare BSG old schoolOG, here they both staying on their own in their perspective error so don't even go there it took some negotiation to get Richard hatch to come on the rebooted BSG and originally initially he did not want to do it he will still loyal to Old School.

I would say that this iteration is vastly superior to GALACTICA 1980. However, I would not concur that this "surpassed" the iconic 1978 iteration. It would be like comparing apples to oranges, as the saying goes (the newer version is inspired and influenced not only by the original, but also by ST: Voyager - Ron Moore briefly was a writer on that show - and the real-life events of 2001 and even the 1990s and 1980s).

When I was a kid I loved Battlestar Galactica there wasn’t very much like it on TV at the time. But it hasn’t aged well. The two hour premiere of the reboot though is some of the finest science-fiction television that’s ever been broadcast.

@@guthabanglasdash8641 calm down with your nostalgia

@@bonghunezhou5051 I have nothing but love for the original, but yeah, this vastly surpasses it.

Yup. Loved that 'Old Man.' Role-model, for sure ;-)

Brilliant dialog written for the show and just as brilliantly delivered. There's so much nuance in every episode.

The quality of the show from writing, to acting, to shooting the scenes, it's all surpassing anything on TV.

Indeed, he was great in both the original and reimagined series. However, you might want to pay the man the courtesy of spelling his character's name correctly - it was Tom Zarek, not Zarak.

dave28lax RH was so easy going. He’d laugh off the error. Thanks for the correction.

​@@MadAudi lol. I have no idea of whether he'd have laughed off the error, and unless you are a friend of his I'm pretty sure you don't know that either. Why don't you just admit your mistake, and edit your original answer to spell the character's name correctly?

@@TonyTylerDraws I think you mean 'PROtagonist'...

Don't forget... He's also Karn the Undying.

Would have been better if Adama had removed the safety off the pistol

Adama and Roslin, that's the entire point.

Not always

Who said he reached such a realization? He simply realized it was over, not necessarily an admission of wrongdoing. He used the ends to justify the means, but he’s not evil, or wasteful.

Especially when she tells him NO & what came after that.

" NO. Not now. Not ever. Do you hear me? I will use every cannon, ever bomb, every bullet, every weapon I have down to my own eye teeth to end you! I SWEAR IT! I AM COMING FOR ALL OF YOU!"

@@PetersaberHD 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

For sure

Also that Roslyn would rather see that ship destroyed then in enemy hands

I'm not sure how wrong Gaeta was. If he rebelled against Adama, didn't Adama himself rebel against the Quorum? In fact, Adama rebelled against every leader that fleet every had--Roslin, Cain, Zarek--except for the actual Cylon sympathizer.

@@TrackerNeil Gaeta was definitely wrong about one thing. They were going to jump with the flightpods extended. Like wtf that's just basic.

Sounds like you've only seen five shows in your life.

@@GplusGains FEAR IS THE MIND KILLER.

@@GplusGains I have seen a lot of shows and I would also put this in my top 5.

@@pauldavis5665 You probably think season 4 was the best.

@@GplusGains No, I liked season 2 the best personally.

how many days remain till our time is up?

Exactly what he'd said earlier to Starbuck.

I advice you to watch the miniseries, and the movies, the last two seasons are a waste.

amen to that

Alternatively it shows the disconnect between the cheaper graphics company that was hired for that season, and the shows editors.

Wasn't Gaeta's mistake, no one would make a mistake like that. Simple overlook during production

@@Leadbetter500 BSG In-House FX took over halfway through season 2.5 and remained to the end including "The Plan." All the same personnel were there; Gary Hutzel supervising, Mojo Liebowitz, Lee Stringer, etc.

It was almost certainly a reused shot and no-one noticed the position of the flight pods. On a tangent I was impressed the first time I saw a Jupiter class battlestar jump in while playing BSG: Deadlock and saw it's flight pods extending. I was pleased to see that level of detail in the game.

@@asvarien whoever was at the helm of the development team seriously did their homework

Even in the future nothing works

Theres three of us but only one pod. And Im the president!

Who are you? I'm the bearded lady! Who are you, one of the freaks????

Yup Gaeta and Tom Zarak were the A**holes. Major and his cousin

Murdered by the Cavils.

An all time great. Screen legend.

You also have to remember that this 2003-2009 series was a reboot of the 1978 original, and it is a "tangent" or "reimagining" of the classic. It's just like what the Cylons said in this reimagining, "All Of This Has Happened Before And Will Happen Again." It's also what Olmos said at one BSG convention, that the actors will change (and age), but the franchise (BSG) will live on. Same thing happened with Star Trek, which has had 6 different TV series & multiple movies. From what last I checked (months ago), the new reboot or movie is still happening & probably in progress. It might go back closer to the roots of the original series, idk. I would be wondering if they put back more of the Mormon theology in this next remake. Both BSG series would not have made it without the Mormon faith as a religious background detail. Kobol (Kolob), Quorum of the 12, Ship of Lights, Devil (Iblis), 12 tribes, panspermia, etc are all details of the Mormon (which is actually Christian) religion. I look forward to this upcoming second reboot.

He didn't want anyone to die. Galactica could have taken out that Basestar but in doing that he would have killed all the humans, including President Roslin, on there. His one play was just taking the fleet away from the Basestar. When Tyrol took that away from him, there was nothing left to play. At this point I doubt he even knew what he wanted. He was suckered into Zarek's xenophobia but in time found it a place he did not belong. He could have plead his case to be imprisoned and removed from service, but he did take his punishment as a man. He does deserve respect for that, just none for his actions that led to that.

Especially, after Dee's suicide. THAT scene broke my heart. Loved her character.

The murder of the Quorum is what turned him I think, and the loss of the FTL drive is what made him realize it was over.

@@agent00puffball He was wavering before that too with just how much violence Zarek was employing.

Gaeta had said before there'd be a reckoning. He realized that applied to him too. He enabled the butcher Tom Zarek to commit mass murder. He'd already committed to run rather than endure more fighting with Laura Roslin … but when the FTL shut down, he knew it was over. He'd made the wrong choice, and it was time for his own reckoning. He wasn't surprised when Adama came through that door. He was already expecting it. He had no excuses for what he'd done, so he offered none. Which is just as well, because Adama wouldn't have wanted to hear them anyway. It was over.

Mr. Hatch originally opposed the 2003 series. RDM got together with him and kinda laid out what they had in mind and he was all for it.

@@knghtbrd Even so, there's a delicious irony in a character played by Richard Hatch trying to take over the Galactica...

And the two Apollos meeting on the prison ship

Even if they could have jumped, Adama still retakes the CIC. The revolt fails no matter what. There are emergency coordinates that Sharon could lead the Base Star to in case the fleet seperates like this. They could even meet at New Caprica.

From 10 counting down to 3, took about 20 seconds of real-time. Sure, maybe it should've taken 10 seconds total but maybe they count things a bit differently in BSG.

@@ReelMeurik Most likely is that they were showing simultaneous events, one after the other. You show the bridge and the count from 10-8, and then cut to Adama's squad and what they were doing during that same period, and then more countdown on the bridge, and then the Adama squad's progress during it. Since split screen really doesn't make for great TV.

This was arguably the worst episode in the entire series and indicative of the decline in quality than season 4 saw. About two episodes before this arc, the Cylons KIDNAPPED humans and executed some of them. Two episodes later, Adama and all of the main characters are comfortable with letting the Cylons near their engines, which is absolutely insane. The Cylons who genocided humanity, have chased them and attacked them constantly since and again, EXECUTED humans 5 minutes ago, but we're supposed to see Gaeta as a villain for wanting to stop this from happening and not risking the remnants of humanity. Therefore, other than Gaeta, every character consequently became completely unlikable, this is where the show died, before its corpse was dragged along the roadside until its official end. And the crazy thing is that I seem to be the only one who even sees the flaws in this episode. To the fans, it's rational to want to give the Cylons access to the engines and to them, Gaeta was a bad guy that they wanted to see get his comeuppance(!).

Must be a Windows based system. "10 seconds remaining before jump....9 seconds remaining before jump...8 seconds...7 seconds.........4 minutes until jump..."

I was scouring through the comments, looking for a Scotty reference and finally found one! It's definitely a homage to him. 🙂

Yes, presence and charismatic are crucial too to becoming a respectable leader.

Yep, Gaeta was smart as hell but he lacked all the other qualities that made a leader.

yeah, i still sometimes listen to him singing. He is opera singer in reall life and his voice is beautifull.

FRAK the toasters. I'm with that Lieutenant, respect Adama, but if he took orders and worked with Cylons, I'd be on the Team Mutiny as well. The only problem was that the Mutiny didn't have good leaders, if they had chosen better leaders it would have won and taken the ship easily. Killed all Cylons and ended the last Baseships. Mission Accomplished.

should have been Adama. he's the traitor. he sided with people who destroyed his planet. adama should have been executed. along with all his cylon friends and anyone who supported him.

Which they didn't know. And if Gaeta hadn't decided to give up, the rebels might've fought back instead of just surrendering without a fight.

@@WarGrowlmon18 Couldn't they have effectively laid waste to the Baseship? Clearly, Gaeta wasn't willing to do that.

@@mitchellmelkin4078 Even at it's best Galactica isn't a good match for one

@@mitchellmelkin4078 Not without collateral damage to the civilian ships.

@@mitchellmelkin4078 In it's wrecked state Galactica was no match as the baseships have been shown overtime they can heal damage Galactica cannot every hit is a little way towards destruction as they don't have drydocks. Plus the fleet would have suffered massive loses as they all flew close together so it would have been the end of the fleet once both ships started to trade blows.

It's frakked because it contradicts Adama's verdict in the Baltar trial. Lee staged a mutiny before. Forgiven. Baltar collaborated with the Cylons. Forgiven. Gaeta? Gets a bullet.

@@CidVeldoril If you do this, there will be no forgiveness. He meant it.

@@madquest8 Which is still frakked because he didn't do anything worse than most of the main characters who got away scot free. Arbitrarily deciding "This one doesn't get forgiveness" is what was ruled to be wrong in the Baltar trial.

@@CidVeldoril Lee never mutinied. Col Tigh was the one that mutinied and had the President arrested at gun point.

@@ranger34ab Not the narrative in the show. Watch the trial of Baltar.

The Expanse and Andor are brilliant. Well worth a watch if you like BSG

Never saw him again. The rebels were all imprisoned on the Astral Queen aside from those who later volunteered for that suicide mission. As Kelly helped them, he might've been given a reprieve instead of a prison sentence.

Kelly was in the last episode. He made it to Earth.

I like that moment when he caught Chief Tyrol as he came out of the vent. They talked about Cally and such and then Kelly let him go on his way. He could have killed the chief but he didn't.

Likely because of the issues with the last half of season four, the cast being on other projects and flying in and out, the actor just wasn't available for further appearances.

Yes. Chief Tyrol, still in Engineering, looks up and sees the first of many cracks in the ship's frame. Even the resin the Cylons applied to her couldn't stop Galactica from deteriorating and her last actions (ramming the big Cylon ship that had shot her up and improperly jumping to Earth) didn't help. That last jump broke her back.