Yep

Too bad he didnt have the chance to complete the blood test for Ellen....that would have been an interesting reveal.

lol

Don't forget about the thermonuclear bomb for fraks sake!!!!

I was thinking the same thing.

in that fleet, thats not saying all that much... like swiss cheese.

as long as you dont have kids born into working spachip refineries

ITS ALMOST LIKE IT DOESNT MAKE PIE HAHA

That because Saul Tigh values Bill Adama friendship. Think about it, the Admiralty never like or trusted Tigh, but Adama gave him a chance to be his XO, cause he was his good friend.

Plus Saul never knew to be a Cylon until the nebula.

You'd think that would be higher up the list.

@@roystonlodge Luckily, thermonuclear bombs are pretty hard to set off accidentally. You can not say the same about most of the chemicals. 😉

rule nuber 5 bang every broad in the fleet..possibly some dudes

@@christopherg2347 Or people.

Yeah - like i'm out of here - job already done

"I told you. He's been after me for YEARS!" "WHAT!" me : [dead] 🤣

There's cookies and punch by the door.

you mean helen?

sublime

I believe Olmos has a director credit for this episode. Could explain the sudden change. I absolutely loved this episode for the comedic timing of scenes. I also think they were getting pushback from the TV execs asking for more levity in BSG

@@Erroangelos Yup, and the first thing they did when the execs asked for something happy was to write the accident on the flight deck where all the pilots get blown up.

Writers took some liberties here, and it was fun.

They were giving us a break . . .

It wasnt just the timing, it was the music that added to it all. It was almost like some comedy sketch, and the way Tigh and Adama both look at the President is just so chuckle worthy

Those Cylons being Tigh and his wife.

Not so unusual.

The bigger irony is,... even the writers didn't know this until seasons later. Just making things up as they went along.

@@k1productions87 Baltar tested them both and knew that they are Cylons, but decided to keep it for himself

Right!

Logan Mainord Play meme clip of surprised hamster/gerbil

Holy shit, that was great!

I was looking for this particular scene from the reimagined series. Thank you.

Yes. Ellen wasn't a cow originally. She was so much better when her memories came back

And Gaius knew Ellen was a Cylon the whole time!

@@13Xerro as well as boomer

So who's a Montegue? 😉

sci fi w/good dialogue. kind of the next stage from Firefly in a way.

Yes. If anything, this was all to show how loyal Adama was to Tigh, to excuse decisions he'd already made & bad future ones regarding him. As a study on human failings, this series was incredible. I have trouble seeing it all first time around, but looking back, more than LOST, it seems that this was all that the series *was* ever supposed to be. Many episodes & arcs featured no one truly winning.

Of course, they were best friends the moment they met when they served aboard another Jupiter class when they were young

That’s what happens between best friends

Well said. I loved rewatching this scene for this great moment in their relationship. I kinda cheered lol.

They got type-casted. It's why Janeway, Kirk, and Sisko's actors had only limited success after Star Trek, and why half the doctors had no real gigs asides Doctor who.

Star Trek allowed most of them to retire, start their own projects, or move behind the camera.

Not completely. Look at what happened to Axanar.

They’re not leading men, not at all. No one on this series is - women too. Just wonderful character actors and better in an ensemble.

The only three I can think of who went on to do other roles (which I consider them to be fantastic in) are Mary McDonnell, Grace Park, and Katee Sackhoff. Funnily enough, all ended up on crime shows.

Did they really age that much over 4 years or was it part of their makeup/the show?

Jason I think it was part of the show/makeup. Seems like they’ve talked about that at events I’ve seen on KZfaq.

Tigh especially. He looks like a different person after Exodus.

Dave Marx that music was not there on first run

this episode was absolute gold.

As TVTropes said "the only silly episode in the whole series".

the biggest problem of the show was Rosilin, all her fault

Cavil couldn't agree more.

Rachel Levin yup

also a cylon

She's not a Cylon, she's just bipolar . . . .

A shame there weren't more, actually.

There was the "paper shortage" scene in s3e10. That was pretty funny too, although the way that played out I have a feeling it was "blooper" that they just decided to keep in the show.

someone would have had to tell the writers ;)

The fact that over half of the main characters turned out to be Cylons was one of the things that just ruined this series. It always felt to me that the writers just ran out of ideas, and failing to have new ideas, kept returning to the old 'twists' until they weren't even twists any more. Worse, the evolution of the show ended up undermining the good first season, in an example of how bad writing can end up retroactively destroying good writing.

@@celebrim1 Ruined the series? Its literally one of if not THE best sci fi shows ever.

@@roryedward2631 It could have been. It fell apart in season 2 and never recaptured the brilliance of the first season.

saul would have killed them both, helen would want it that way, they will meet again

Lol

Made better by the fact that Adama was right.

The "twice?" and "what?" almost kill me.

I dunno, Tigh's paper shortage comment followed by Tigh and Adama cracking up laughing might be better.

@@halwakka504 The way Tigh said that line had me in stitches before they burst out themselves.... :))

Hear hear. He's such a formidable actor, i don't know if he really gets the acclaim he deserves. Olmos is utterly outstanding in this show, imo. A modern sci-fi media screen legend, honestly.

Her intro was designed to make viewers think she was one in order to make you feel the sense of uncertainty and confusion everyone on that fleet must have been feeling knowing any one of them, even friends they know and trust, could actually be a machine working in secret to kill them.

That was during the period when the characters (and audience) thought Cylons could look like anybody, or replace people with Cylon copies. That wasn't actually true.

A couple of bow mounted CWIS turrets certainly wouldn't have gone astray

@James Harding it's not a party if you don't invite Arty

Shut yer FRAKKIN' MOUTH! **evil one eyed stare**

The entire time Lee is looking back & forth at everyone like a surprised meerkat. Perfection. That, and Baltar's "Oh, lovely" when Ellen shows up.

"...after me for YEARS." ... SPOILER ALERT ... ... ... But she's a toaster

They already had Vipers out, shadowing the Raider. When the Raider broke for the fleet, it surprised the Viper pilots that had been shadowing it and was going to outrun them- they wouldn't have been able to catch up in time to stop it from ramming Galactica. It was Tigh's call to launch the reserve Vipers that saved the ship because since they were coming from Galactica they were in a position to get between it and the Raider, and shoot it down. You don't launch every fighter you have unless you think you're going to need them; besides being bad tactics it's a waste of resources which the fleet can ill afford. This whole encounter was just one Raider pretending to be damaged, drawing them out and making them hesitate and doubt until it saw an opening to strike. Now you can certainly question whether they should have just blown it up at the start and called it a day, but they didn't, and the situation being what it was at that moment Tigh sensed that the enemy was going to make a move, and made the decision to act first.

@@zorak950 Uhmmm, I always wonder if That Specific Raider was Scar himself on his first death Run.....

Hessley Laurent I thought the episode where we 1st learn of scar is before Ellen comes back.

@@juliankirby9880 You could be right and I'm wrong, but I'm not going to back check :-), Can you.

@@TwiceStruck its hinted that Scar might been the Raider Starbuck kills and then hijacks early in season 1 as it seemed to hold quite a grudge against Starbuck in particular