Back when the BBC made documentaries we wanted to watch and weren't bias towards old fashioned values, how far has the BBC fallen. Loved the film and made me recall my first book I got way back in 1980 from my local library in North London by Ivo Peters about the S&D which went on to spawn my love of steam, wonderful stuff to watch ;-)
@LaZoucheCustomshop3 жыл бұрын
@Novak Ingood Ha ha ha ha.. ;-)
@LaZoucheCustomshop3 жыл бұрын
@Novak Ingood Hey no worries. Ivo was before my time but his books and films are what drew me to the subject in detail other than my father placing me infront of his stereo at age 2 to listen to Peter Handford recordings of steam and watch me mesmerised by the sounds, happy times.
@LaZoucheCustomshop3 жыл бұрын
@Novak Ingood Oh yes indeed they are, if good, the builders of a sturdy base upon which a child's mind can grow through shared experience and love for common likes. Pity these days and not to get to political but men are derided especially as fathers. Still time is a circle and one day will return to the fold... we can but hope.
@WhiteUnicorn822 жыл бұрын
Today the BBC are an utter she to what was once a Great Britain. Ok, I needed some intense orchestral music for that line, but my point remains. The BBC used to be something that British folk could be proud of. Now they are a national embarrassment and utterly shameful.
@duncangowans40362 ай бұрын
I disagree, the BBC are still a national asset. Don't let the Tories and their vested interests tell you otherwise.
@tango6nf4773 жыл бұрын
Looking at that fantastic old Gentleman's eyes come alive, and the way he simply got right down to it as if it were only the day before that he had retired was very moving. Like the Miners, when the Railways were emasculated a whole way of life, traditions, and skills vanished for good.
@teddy1066 Жыл бұрын
First class comment.
@falconoilcompany9 жыл бұрын
A wonderful and historic programme, which should be preserved for future generations to show what we had and threw so carelessley away.
@grahamkerr36539 жыл бұрын
falconoilcompany Hear hear. Compulsive viewing for all those born after the post steam apocalypse.
@trialen4 жыл бұрын
You mean an impartial BBC?
@PreservationEnthusiast2 жыл бұрын
This was an uneconomic line which needed to be closed and demolished.
@grassytramtracks24 күн бұрын
@@PreservationEnthusiast demolishing is very short sighted, the alignment should always be kept for the future
@StandardGoose3 жыл бұрын
The "modern" Intercity locomotives we see in some shots in this documentary are older now than the steam locomotives Ivo Peters was filming were when he was filming them. They're the new vintage trains now. It's strange to think that at the time this documentary was made these men were reminiscing about an older time now gone. Because watching this I'm reminiscing about the time at which it was filmed, back when we had a rail network that served the public good instead of merely serving private profit.
@ClassThrash5 жыл бұрын
What an incredible guy! The amazing collection he’s left behind & the legacy he’s created will be with us forever!
@wordsmith523 жыл бұрын
Program was made in 1984. That is now longer ago than when the program was made and the line closed...
@1TruNub2 жыл бұрын
The look in the old drivers eyes had to be one of the most beautiful looks I've ever seen, it was as if he was seeing an old girlfriend he hadn't seen in many years and the way he just climbed up into the cab and sat down in the driver's seat and literally the driving the engine as if nothing had changed
@michaelhampton94934 жыл бұрын
This film fills me with sadness on 2 counts 1. It should never have closed . 2. I was never lucky enough to visit the S and D
@crickettragicfromdownunder88783 жыл бұрын
Great documentary 👍👍. It’s such a shame that such a beautiful line closed down. Imagine if even a short section was rebuilt. Cheers from 🇦🇺
@garysimpson39003 жыл бұрын
What a totally enjoyable half an hour. Thank you for posting this article. Beautiful but sad at the same time.
@theflyingsteamerstoke85346 жыл бұрын
Ivo Peter's films are far better and more pleasing to watch than today's digital camera clips where people can't keep still or quiet at all when filming trains.
@drevo503 ай бұрын
What a film. The winter shots at the end are elegaic.
@lennylaa16865 жыл бұрын
Magnificent memories, superbly presented by the legendary Mike Arlett. Mike is undoubtedly the best ever narrator of steam railway films. Old film brilliantly brought to vivid life by a very skilful commentator.
@cassandraeite78085 жыл бұрын
Omg!!! Love how old this is!!! Even by the BBC logo and the way the narrator talks!!!
@lennylaa16865 жыл бұрын
From 1985...and the narrator is Mike Arlett, he is quite superb. He has provided commentary on several commercial DVD's of especially 1960's steam railways. If you ever treat yourself to one such DVD, then buy ''Branch Line to Burnham''..Mike narrating. Cost..£19-99. Should be able to buy it on-line. It is my all-time favourite, vividly takes you back to a bygone era.
@simondavies46033 жыл бұрын
1984 judging by the date at the end of the programme.
@Singapom888 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic documentary. What gentlemen. And what mechanical marvels steam engines were.
@greatbritishentertainmentl56363 жыл бұрын
A full-on nostalgic look at this delightful railway - most interesting!
@davidwillis58337 жыл бұрын
So good to see these programs again. My great grandfather was a driver on the S&D based at Highbridge(for Burnham on Sea). I can clearly remember the branch being used for milk trains to Basonbridge right up to the early 70s.
@stuartthegrant8 жыл бұрын
What a treat to watch this film, well done.
@memoryfoam2285 Жыл бұрын
Having grown up in Wincanton I've always wondered how much easier my life could've been had the SDJR stayed open, I'm currently gathering information on the route so I can try and trace what little of it is still publicly accessible.
@MARKMANIATT4 жыл бұрын
Return and All Change are superb documentaries I well remember at the time of broadcast.Wonderful Donald Beale and Peter Smith.Great men from a time long gone...
@marktinsley78456 ай бұрын
I was born in Dorset. What an amazing film, thank you.
@scopex27496 жыл бұрын
The death of this wonderful railway always brings tears to my eyes. If only Beeching had never been born or SOMEONE had the foresight to preserve this line for todays generation of steam locos. So lamented the dear old S&DJR. The destruction of our beloved railways began the slow demise of Britain, today our loco factories are no more, no more British cars, steel, coal, you name it. All thanks to BEECHING! Think about it.......... :...(
@cwnapier674 жыл бұрын
Keyboard Krazy The irony is with traffic congestion, pollution, and overuse of Petrol and prices that the railway would thrive today. Yes they would use Electric and Diesel but the rail line would be thriving today. Over here in the USA the railway is a major part of moving goods from one part of the country to the other but is behind in people transportation compared to Europe. I used to live in Spetisbury next to this wonderful line. Great film.
@Singapom888 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if that line were open now. Imagine the tourism traffic. It would be like the canals now, which have more traffic on them than every before. The Midford Signal Box on its own should have been a Grade 1 listed building. A piece of social history destroyed. It's tragic.
@marc210917 жыл бұрын
Excellent film made and first broadcast in 1984.
@likklej8 Жыл бұрын
Theres a Lane at Worrhy Farm of famous Glastonbury which was the old trackbed of the S&D talking to one the farm workers Worthy Farm had its own milk dock siding when the line was running.
@jims18122 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this film,so good to see something from before the music pandemic and actually hear thing clearly.
@Isochest7 жыл бұрын
Bloody love the 9Fs. Loved watching them as wellas 8Fs as a tiny kid on goods trains in the late 1960s
@glynnm763 жыл бұрын
Wwrittarooott tt
@johnriggs49292 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how many times I watch this (first saw it in 1986 on tv.,) it still gets to me. I am reminded of Houseman's poem: "Into my heart an air that kills From yon far country blows; What are those blue remembered hills, What spires, what farms are those? That is the land of lost content, I see it shining plain, The happy highways where I went And cannot come again."
@m3hnl8 жыл бұрын
such a great joy to go to midsomer norton last weekend and ride on the s and d
@jackbodenmann7379 Жыл бұрын
Hello My Friends To my way of thinking it's absolutely heartbreaking that this magnificent railway is gone. We are fortunate that Ivo had the foresight to capture it on film. His wonderful films bring into focus what once was, and also, what we have lost. Jack
@Steven_Rowe8 жыл бұрын
wonderful, I actually walked across Midford viaduct in September 2015. to think in 1963 Sir John Betjimin made Branchline railway and he said how hellish the roads would be in 10 years. Well 53 years later Britian is totally ruined by cars and the vain attempt to keep building more roads. it is simply criminal that so much victorian engineering was destroyed by short sighted pollies like Beeching. its funny Britain ripped up so many lines, when you go to France they seem to have kept them
@howdoiputthecheeseintheove84378 жыл бұрын
Ikr, same with us aussies.
@stephengarratt50767 жыл бұрын
And the majority of the lines on the Beeching Report, were closed under the auspices of Barbara Castle, despite a broken promise, in the 1964 Labour manifesto, to at least review said act.
@Steven_Rowe7 жыл бұрын
***** miney corrupts. So many people in politics do this. I think many lines had to shut as they never made money. The tragic thing is not closing the line bur selling the rail corridor. So many lines would now be viable.
@Steven_Rowe7 жыл бұрын
***** if you check out my KZfaq channel I am building in O gauge in the garden a model of West Green station on the old Seven Sisters to Palace Gate branch. It closed 7th Jan 63 and had been going downhill since the Piccadilly line was extended to Cockfosters. Crossrail two has a planned link between WoodGreen and Seven Sisters which is the route of the old line
@alanmunro7 жыл бұрын
fascinating
@grahamkerr36539 жыл бұрын
Absolute classic. Wonderful memories of the S&DJR brought to life and everyone's to keep. This is an object lesson in social destruction. The railway was for many the sole means of communication in this stunningly beautiful but savage landscape, terminated like so many things railway years before it's time. A much loved friend lost for ever to the god of car parks and Tesco. (Other supermarkets are widely available - unfortunately) Most of them built on derelict branch lines or disused engine shed sites. Nostalgia? you bet!
@WestCountrySteamVideos8 жыл бұрын
by any chance do you know what trains were featured in this video?
@grassytramtracks24 күн бұрын
Bath Green Park station has a vintage market on I think the first Sunday of the month (might be the last) but most of the time, it's just a Sainsbury's car park, what a shame
@SuperVirginiaRose2 жыл бұрын
Ivo Peters was my Mothers younger Brother.
@madscot26073 жыл бұрын
Bring back the line between Frome and radstock...it’s crying out to be reopened...
@mattthomas52306 жыл бұрын
16:36 was a blast from the past for me - Peter Cattermole was my Chemistry teacher at school!
@squarewheelsorguk4 жыл бұрын
Matt Thomas Snap ;) Sadly, Peter Cattermole died in 2015 after a short illness, at the age of 65.
@stephengarratt50767 жыл бұрын
The ex driver Ray, with the thin moustache, was filmed on the footplate, in the BBC 1963 John Betjeman film, "A Branch Line Railway", which features the old S&D branch , from Evercreech Junction, to Burnham On Sea..
@lennylaa16865 жыл бұрын
Yes, I regularly watch ''Branch line''......it's a wonderful, evocative film of a golden age of Olde England. Mike Arlett, narrating here, also commentates on my favourite ever steam DVD, ''Branch Line to Burnham''. Get a copy if you can, it is a gem, an absolute classic.
@tango6nf4773 жыл бұрын
Another masterpiece of a film too Stephen
@MarkHenstridge Жыл бұрын
Fantastic doco, thanks for uploading it
@bugalugs6618 жыл бұрын
What a Godsend the S& D would be now..! I am a GWR Man by Birth..What a mess now..!
@veggie426 жыл бұрын
The railway from Taunton to Minehead needs reopening and also the line from Barnstaple to Ilfracombe too for holiday makers
@StormBlazePegasus6 жыл бұрын
Taunton to Minehead exists and has done for decades. Its the West Somerset Railway.
@sarahstrong71743 жыл бұрын
@@StormBlazePegasus However not from Taunton. Have to bus the first part. Hope they don't cut the bus service or I won't be able to get to the line at all.
@daveharrison91076 жыл бұрын
Most of the section between Bath and Radstock is now a cycle path, including through the two tunnels.
@barryroach19805 жыл бұрын
A bygone age when men used to dig their gardens and mow their lawns dressed in shirt and tie and on Sundays most streets were empty and the smell of a home cooked roast dinner drifted over rooftops......where is my steam punk time machine??!!
@annother33504 жыл бұрын
Most streets were empty? No, kids were outdoors a lot more
@GreatBarrWolf4 жыл бұрын
Sunday is a day of rest! Why would you want to do back breaking digging all day..
@alangiles27633 жыл бұрын
@@GreatBarrWolf Because that was the only day many people had free - it was quite often a 6 day or a 5 and a haf day week, especially for manual workers.
@martinhall602 жыл бұрын
I only wish I could have met Donald Beal, a true gentleman. If only there were more people like him now, the world would be a far better place. A true gentleman of the iron road, sadly missed. Does anyone have any information about Peter Smith . When i worked on the railways in signal boxes and crossings a freind of mine was a train driver and one day he gave me a poster of a train coming out of Combdown
@martinhall602 жыл бұрын
Sorry i lost my message. The poster was a train coming out of Chilcompton tunnel.
@dethkon22847 жыл бұрын
Drivers of cars prefer a fully functioning railway, because it means open roads.
@Teddystream.3 жыл бұрын
9F Evening star pulled the last pines Express in September 1962 over the S & DR
@paulcowell75884 жыл бұрын
What wonderful old gents
@jayarajjohnson24763 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL.
@alanmunro7 жыл бұрын
marvellous
@sehpitadraca49306 жыл бұрын
Tack me back i don,t belong in this age
@garethonthetube5 жыл бұрын
I remember when this programme was transmitted. The technical quality of Ivo Peters' camerawork is remarkable. Dare I say it but it looks better than the modern footage shot for the programme 20 years later! To be fair it was a pretty grey day, though.
@dduck15853 жыл бұрын
Ivo's footage was mainly kodachrome ll thus better resolution than any c 1980s 16mm filmstock except for k25, which I doubt TV companies would touch.
@user-mu4br4vt2h7 жыл бұрын
i like this video
@brianhepke71822 ай бұрын
Back then the guys treated their jobs as vocations... they loved what they did and were proud of it. Now it seems railway workers are in it for what they can get out of it. Traveling by train is the most enjoyable way of getting around, unfortunately now you are restricted by the unions as to when you can use the service.
@HowdenPaul265 жыл бұрын
Can we please stop blaming Dr Beeching for the railway closures, he only wrote the report. The final decision on any line closure was the Minister of Transport, one Ernest Marples, whose construction company was actively bidding for road & motorway government contracts.
@brydenholley19045 жыл бұрын
That is remarkable - thanks for sharing. So this government minister basically used his position to make loads of money for himself, at the expense of the country. terrible! And they're still at it...
@Japan-in-N5 жыл бұрын
Marples put his road construction company in his wifes name so no hidden agenda there. Some of the closures came long before Beeching. We have Beeching to thank for the Intercity service we have. I think what was wrong wasn't the closures but how it was done, they should have been mothballed not torn up
@richardwestwell49024 жыл бұрын
@@Japan-in-N I believe Beeching did want to mothball some lines but Marples would have none of it.
@StandardGoose3 жыл бұрын
@@richardwestwell4902 Beeching made his recommendations in good faith based on economic realities though.
@stevehendon40762 жыл бұрын
@@richardwestwell4902 that is correct...Beeching did indeed recommend some of the land be kept for possible re- use in the future but of course over time many of the routes have been built on😥
@robnewman6101 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Interesting.
@meapantz19835 ай бұрын
If anyone has information on a Arthur Peters who lived near Shepton Mallet viaduct let me know. He drove trains
@evaluateanalysis7974 Жыл бұрын
19:30 "what you are filming is doing the moving, you are not." Many KZfaqrs could take note of that!
@bluedoris88 Жыл бұрын
Sweet,a joy.
@robnewman61015 ай бұрын
You've burst your safety valve. You can't pull the train anyone.
@michaelhayden52642 жыл бұрын
Evercreech is an ancestral home going back to 1630.
@christopherdaniel48412 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Steam locomotion changed the world.
@JP_TaVeryMuch6 ай бұрын
Don't tell the kids but their futuristic phones' electricity might be from nuclear power stations, but it's a steam engine that makes it. They'd implode if they knew!
@dduck15853 жыл бұрын
Needs a 2k remaster from original film elements.
@lizlawrence455310 ай бұрын
Doesn't need anything doing with it. Just enjoy the original film.
@davidholder32074 жыл бұрын
Pity they didn't cover Radstock which is the start of the climb to top of Mendips and just further on the 5 arches viaduct! I occasionally traveled the line from Radstock to Bath to attend school in the 1950's when buses weren't running because of snow.
@howdoiputthecheeseintheove84378 жыл бұрын
A very big reason why everyone tortured dr beach
@a11csc3 жыл бұрын
ivo the man
@robnewman61015 ай бұрын
I have a Hardback DORLING KINDERSLEY DK EYEWITNESS GUIDES Book of TRAIN. Discover the story of railways - from the days of steam to the high - speed, sophisticated trains of today. In association with THE NATIONAL RAILWAY MUSEUM.
@ukrailwayhistory23963 жыл бұрын
Oo
@microbusss8 жыл бұрын
so how much of this railway exist now?
@bobsherunkle18 жыл бұрын
+microbusss None of it remains in "normal service". See the excellent Wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerset_and_Dorset_Joint_Railway, which gives you an overall history of the line, including the various current restoration schemes. Very best of luck to the "New Somerset and Dorset Railway", www.somersetanddorsetrailway.co.uk/, which aims to restore the whole line, but I fear this is a forlorn hope.
@michaelhampton94938 жыл бұрын
+microbusss You can walk some parts of the old trackbed , but a lot has gone unfortunately
@rickyreed83547 жыл бұрын
why would 5 people dislike this????
@pbx1927 жыл бұрын
I can't understand why anyone should dislike any video. I have never pressed the dislike button. If I don't like the video then I simply stop watching it and switch to another. I hate the dislike button.
@rickyreed83547 жыл бұрын
exactly
@dethkon22847 жыл бұрын
Robots designed to get view count higher on other videos, it happens everywhere
@GaryNumeroUno7 жыл бұрын
They are probably car drivers! Or Dr. Beeching's grandchildren!
@rickyreed83547 жыл бұрын
idiots ;0
@ukrailwayhistory23963 жыл бұрын
Ok
@stephenborsbey43503 жыл бұрын
1984 the film.
@laurencecope70833 жыл бұрын
Bath the dampest overpriced dump in the whole of somerset.
@johnsilence35492 ай бұрын
Can't even buy a lump of proper coal in England now. Thanks, Boris... What we've become...
@rickreid8572 Жыл бұрын
What an awful life
@scopex27494 жыл бұрын
I wish i was born in 49 not 59 😢 I HATE THIS MODERN WORLD and its terrorism and cruelty and global warming 🤷🏼♂️ REOPEN THE S&DJR! BLESS Dear Ivo Peters, without whom none of this footage would be preserved! RIP Donald Beale, luckily I managed to get a copy of his book which are sadly now all gone.
@lennylaa16862 жыл бұрын
But would anyone use these trains? They didn't back then.
@scopex27494 ай бұрын
The road sin the area are all now gridlocked. I travel them regularly and have to sit in massive queues down past Sedgemoor etc the train flew past all this.@@lennylaa1686
@elliotkey79615 ай бұрын
3@@@❤
@otps80358 ай бұрын
Is it a model railway?
@Jabberstax6 ай бұрын
The BBC used to make great comedies, dramas and documentaries. The modern BBC has become unwatchable.
@musoseven82182 жыл бұрын
I vaguely remember this documentary - in the days before the BBC became 'woke', biased etc - I've a few videos with MA looking a little older too. He's a great presenter and superbly knowledgeable. Can't help but remember better times in the past, not just nostalgia per se, just better times - bittersweet. Great documentary though. Beeching et al deliberately misused the Pareto Theory, with a fat pay cheque, links to the RHA, to pander to government policy. The S&D was treated in a slipshod under hand, fraudulent manner and cruelly with it too. And let us not forget that Beeeching killed off communities as well!
@harrisonaard1 Жыл бұрын
For those who haven't heard of David Shepherd... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Shepherd_(artist)