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"What genius arranged such a happy and satisfying marriage?"
From Dundee, the first spot where chips were sold, Fyfe Robertson explores the origins of the perfect pairing of fish and chips.
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@biffbayberry8070 10 ай бұрын

Fyfe Robertson's eating and chatting for the camera is as natural as eating lunch with an old friend. Brilliant.

@luiathmorgan7709 8 ай бұрын

Eloquent ..informative unlike some reporters today !

@johncarlisle621 6 ай бұрын

@@luiathmorgan7709one of the very best

@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr Ай бұрын

some of the earliest mukbangs ever printed to film

@jasonayres 10 ай бұрын

When an older family member would be unhappy about certain things reported in the newspaper, they would grumble, "..Only good for wrapping chips in!"

@raynarks 7 ай бұрын

Yep. People would say “bloody rag, I wouldn’t wrap my chips in it”.

@joekerry741 6 ай бұрын

today's news is tomorrow's chip paper

@critterjon4061 3 ай бұрын

Reminds me of a quote by Shakespeare when he describes some of the soulless romantic novels as “ to be fit only for bum fodder”

@joechapman8208 10 ай бұрын

"No, I didn't serve in the shop. It wasn't a shop." "No! No! No." "No, no. They didn't take it home." "No, no, ye didnae peel 'em." Mr. De Gernier was a tough interviewee.

@stepheng8779 10 ай бұрын

Maybe should have done his homework? 😂

@octaviussludberry9016 10 ай бұрын

@@stepheng8779 Typical BBC interviewer.

@bletheringfool 10 ай бұрын

Fact checking at its finest

@cambs0181 6 ай бұрын

Well the interviewer should of done a bit more research.

@TS-1267 6 ай бұрын

@@stepheng8779... He was On His Way To "THE THISTLE" 😂😂😂😂

@ilovegot7754 9 ай бұрын

I have NEVER seen anyone pour salt of the side of chips and use it as a dip before until today 😂

@FelixIsMyName 6 ай бұрын

My grandparents use to do that. I guess it comes from people who were born in the early 1900's

@Mark-lj1dj 6 ай бұрын

Apparently royal etiquette is that you put a teaspoon of salt on the plate and dip the food

@jaymac7203 6 ай бұрын

Same here lol

@philiphuntley8277 5 ай бұрын

He was a cultured man.

@paulashe61 4 ай бұрын

Grand parents did it.

@pearljam619 6 ай бұрын

I’ve been using the same chippy for 35 years! Seen three families come and go and it’s still going strong. My Dad used to take me there and now I take my daughter. The aromas still invoke happy childhood memories.

@markhayward7400 3 ай бұрын

Television has no room for journalists like Fyfe Robertson anymore nor room, sadly, for this kind of gentle, enquiring reportage. He is delightfully idiosyncratic here and brilliant to watch.

@user-mb4qs7tg8d 3 ай бұрын

I agree but are you like 80

@markhayward7400 3 ай бұрын

@@user-mb4qs7tg8d I am 60, which is just old enough to remember Fyfe Robertson on television and TV programming like this.

@user-mb4qs7tg8d 3 ай бұрын

@@markhayward7400 I’m not English so I didn’t know how much longer he lasted after this video career wise

@markhayward7400 3 ай бұрын

@user-mb4qs7tg8d Fyfe Robertson was on TV in the UK fairly regularly until the late 1970s. Certainly, as a teenager I can remember watching him.

@user-mb4qs7tg8d 3 ай бұрын

@@markhayward7400 what’s your favourite story he did?

@damiencrowley2506 6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately this presenter is before my time but i think he is the best presenter ive ever watched.

@globaltraveller 10 ай бұрын

I could listen to this gentleman expound on anything all day. Just great.

@TS-1267 6 ай бұрын

... " EXPOUND"... We Call It "JIBBER JABBER" But Educational... A Jolly Little Video 🎉🎉🎉 6:09

@fishandchipdiaries 3 ай бұрын

Portions have definitely grown since this was filmed.

@Luna.3.3.3 11 күн бұрын

So have people's waistlines, unfortunately.

@user-tq5fj6yy6t 8 күн бұрын

Agree. I’m a big guy, but the amount of chips you get in a supper is ridiculous. Half as many would be just fine.

@splintercast8092 6 ай бұрын

I remember fish and chips being wrapped in newspaper right up until the mid-late 1980's. Just the thought of that extra dimension the newspaper gave to the fish and chips aroma makes me salivate even now all these years later.

@reknakfarg 4 ай бұрын

newspapers where only ever used on the outside, the chips themselves where wrapped in clean paper as you see in the video

@Carsonktm420 3 ай бұрын

Mid 90’s it was

@derekmills1080 24 күн бұрын

Fyfe Robertson always held my interest as a young teenager watching ‘Tonight’ and other programmes.

@mikeyboy3054 6 ай бұрын

Been binge-watching these BBC Archive Episodes. Fantastic.

@Spookieham 8 ай бұрын

You have to say the presenters then were another level from todays clowns. Fyfe's dulcet tones are delightful.

@tmarritt 5 ай бұрын

Dude your rose tinned glasses are blinding at this point.

@maxwellfan55 4 ай бұрын

"...away back in these times there was only one class, the very poor class!" Spoken with Scots candour!

@ConcreteRiver 6 ай бұрын

Fyfe Robertson is only 62 in this report. He died in 1987 at the age of 84

@JonniePolyester 10 ай бұрын

“In recent times you think of Mods & Rockers etc “ 😂❤

@jimcameron4672 7 ай бұрын

Fyffe Robertson was terrific

@TheBigMidweek1889 4 ай бұрын

Yes! I was just starting secondary school around then and remember my parents watching his programmes. There was also Cliffe Michelmore, a co presenter of the programme I think.

@markglover2525 5 ай бұрын

Fascinating how portion sizes have changed. I watched some old newsreel from the late 60's where a chip-shop owner was moaning because he'd had to increase the portion size for fish from 4 to 6 ounces (110-170g) because people said the traditional 4 ounce portion didn't fill them up anymore. 'Large' is the smallest portion at my local chippy at 9 ounces (244g); that's 2.5 times the normal portion of 60 years ago. I can't help but wonder if this was the start of the obesity epidemic?

@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr Ай бұрын

a bit of people flocking in, a bit of deflation and a bit of capitalism

@JSDesignHK 4 ай бұрын

Fyfe Robertson was truly the best.

@Hm32271 24 күн бұрын

Who?

@user-jg2nq6ll4c 4 ай бұрын

I remember Fyfe on the tv as though it was yesterday ........ never missed his programme. He was a complete down to earth natural😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@derekogilvie6942 10 ай бұрын

At this point in time my mother was walking around Paisley Scotland pregnant - I was soon to arrive in february 1965!

@daviddixey 10 ай бұрын

I'm February 65. What date?

@derekogilvie6942 10 ай бұрын

21@@daviddixey

@stephenguppy7882 10 ай бұрын

A severe lack of newspaper to wrap up your supper, I notice. However, great item and terrific to see Fyffe Robertson again, a real telly icon of my childhood.

@donlogan83 5 ай бұрын

Using newspaper to wrap chips wasn’t as common as people think, and it certainly didn’t happen throughout the country.

@reknakfarg 4 ай бұрын

newpaper where never used to wrap the chips, news papers where only used on the outside because the ink is poisenous. People seem to remember it all wrong

@RainbowYawn 10 ай бұрын

The most shocking thing to me was watching him put salt on the side of his plate and dip chips in it 🤯

@rogerking7258 8 ай бұрын

As a kid in the 60s I would get into terrible trouble if I sprinkled salt over my food, whatever the food was. The only polite way to do it according to my mother was to pour a little heap onto the plate and dip your food in it. I could never understand why my friends sprinkled instead.

@Mark-lj1dj 6 ай бұрын

Apparently it's still royal etiquette to put a little on the side of the plate and dip

@JohnDickson-ki3qr 4 ай бұрын

I just got to that bit and thought the same thing 😂

@Occident. 8 ай бұрын

Born in Gateshead in 1960. My old man said there were two fish and chip shops on our street. Top and bottom. I recall in the early 70s there were still lots of Fish and chip shops in my town. Sadly many have disappeared. We have one old hold out on Durham rd who's shop has been there since 1953. Visochis. They still do an excellent fish and chips. Bless them.

@scottandrewbrass1931 8 ай бұрын

M&M' s was the best chippy in Gateshead.

@DasTubemeister 10 ай бұрын

I grew up in Dundee during late 60s and 70s. We ate fish and chips wrapped in newspapers, preferably The Courier. We also ate with our fingers. I remember pea and bean busters, mock chops,white pudding and banana fritters. The Deep Sea in Nethergate was our favourite. Its now renamed. Not the same.

@coffeebot3000 10 ай бұрын

Please oh please describe some of these things. I can't find Pea and Bean buster on google. And what was mock chops made from? I love to hear about what people ate when they were kids.

@DasTubemeister 10 ай бұрын

@@coffeebot3000 A Buster was chips served with beans or peas. A mock chop was a lump of mechanically recovered meat, shaped like a chop, hence the name. They also did deep fried pizza. We used to fold it in half, and fill it with chips, and eat it like a kebab.

@coffeebot3000 10 ай бұрын

@@DasTubemeister Thanks. I could go for a nice buster.

@fellspoint9364 26 күн бұрын

Sounds like an ass buster

@indigohammer5732 10 ай бұрын

I’m surprised they didn’t discuss the crucial question about salt and sauce in Edinburgh, and salt and vinegar elsewhere in the civilised world

@waterboy8999 7 ай бұрын

Out of order.....

@themadplotter 5 ай бұрын

A chippy without salt and sauce is like a cheeseburger without ketchup.

@octaviussludberry9016 10 ай бұрын

This might be one of the most entertaining things I've ever watched.

@jimthompson939 10 ай бұрын

@0:32 Chips in 1964 not being wrapped in old newspapers? Where i'm from i remember that still happened in the early 90s. Ahead of their time this chip shop was.

@simongee8928 7 ай бұрын

Fyfe Robertson, the national treasure of his day - ! 😊

@simongee8928 7 ай бұрын

My wife a Dundonian herself, reckons that he was 'awfy posh' when she watched the video - ! 😆

@TrueNativeScot 6 ай бұрын

@@simongee8928aye, he sounds english

@simongee8928 6 ай бұрын

Considering he was an Edinburgh man, but they do sound posh in comparison - ! 😅

@davidfraser2946 9 ай бұрын

In 1995 when I was at Uni I would get F&C regularly late at night from a tiny shop on Blackness Rd, Dundee. Great memory

@boabm6522 3 ай бұрын

The Victor

@matthewrussell8590 10 ай бұрын

Fantastic

@SBAYLISS 10 ай бұрын

Wonderful rich voice and snippet of a long lost world I miss so dearly 😢

@chrislewis8714 Ай бұрын

We enjoy these while still in living memory. I can imagine people living 100 years hence for whom even now is like ancient history. Yet we can hear and see them speak.

@memofromessex 10 ай бұрын

Brilliant stuff

@GrannyDryden Ай бұрын

0:31 if someone gave me that amount of chips, i'd be saying 'Oi Pal! Can i get some chips with these chips please?!"

@MrACOUSTICPETE 4 ай бұрын

Fyffe Robertson always a treat to listen to back in the day and now ! Shame he wasn't around to do an " audio book , " What a joy that would have been !

@TheRattyBiker 4 ай бұрын

I remember certainly up until about 1999 getting a chippy wrapped in yesterday's news... Granted it was in a tiny negligible square of greaseproof then wrapped in yesterday's unsold news... But there's something *seriously* sentimental about _"that smell"_ from when the steam from your beef drip chips hits that printers ink and spreads to the surroundings 🤤🤤🤤 Carcinogenic or not... That's a smell from childhood my brain is subliminally tuned to!!!

@The_Dude_Rugs 10 ай бұрын

As a kid I remember getting my chippy wrapped in newspaper, and that was in the early 2000s haha

@Edwoodb3 4 ай бұрын

It's interesting seeing the world my old man grew up in. I wish I could have experienced it.

@markpiper6677 9 ай бұрын

There was a fish and chips shop - Pat and Hank's - in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, at least by 1963. (It may have been founded earlier than that - I was a very young nipper and don't recall its founding.) And yes, there was newspaper wrapping. And as far as I know, most of the traditionalists in Canada use salt and vinegar (in fact, I remember a huge discussion of the relative merits of malt versus clear vinegar). Some johnny-come-latelies use ketchup - we tolerate them.

@jameswalkden7499 Күн бұрын

By the time this was filmed The Great British Chippy was celebrating 104 years. The first chippy being opened in London in 1860. Three years later the first chip shop in Manchester was opened, not closing down until 1972. Just after the war, 1946, my Grandad Harry and Nanna Daisy bought a fish and chip shop in Morecambe, Barrow House Chippy on Pedder St. My Mum recalls supplying, and delivering by the way, well ahead of their time, the Winter Garden theatre cast and crew, after their last performance and clearing up and finishing for the night, at 1 or 2 in the morning, 60 portions of fish and chips for the princely sum of £3. 15 shillings. For those not old enough to work it out, that comes to 1s and 3d for a portion of fish and chips. Oh, how times have changed. (and NOT for the better.) Happier Days.

@johnking5174 Ай бұрын

Fish and Chips is just so comforting to eat. I grew up as a kid in the late 80s and early 90s, and dad always ate it on Friday nights. I continue that tradition now

@daros194 10 ай бұрын

Never mind on you Tube, this should be rebroadcast on the telly!

@useall7665 5 ай бұрын

I rember fish and chips in newspaper in ireland around 1990😂

@haruspex1-50 3 ай бұрын

I miss the days when I was a lad afterschool. We’d get a cone of chips for 70p and a fluorescent coloured fizzy beverage to wash it all down with.

@SuperRiddlers 9 ай бұрын

Love this. Although Dundee was obviously light years ahead. We we still getting fish n chips in newspaper until 20 years ago in Yorkshire

@firenza74 4 ай бұрын

Must admit I was surprised to learn you got chips served in cartons and got tomato sauce in sachets as early as 1964.Mustve been quite advanced in Dundee ..I remember getting chips in news paper well into the 70s

@TheMixCurator 3 ай бұрын

0:30 - Find it fascinating that the portions (especially chips) back then were tiny compared to today. I can count only 20 chips being served.

@christophereyte2581 Ай бұрын

I remember the old fish and chip shop in nearby Leuchars with its menu, which said simply: 'Fish, chips' with prices.

@casper5379 9 ай бұрын

0:29 can we get some chips with that fish....

@TheHuntermj 10 ай бұрын

Did he just pour a pile of salt and dip the chips in it?

@chelamcguire 10 ай бұрын

Fyfe was true 'old school'. Prior to salt shakers, salt was served in a..........wait for it...........a 'salt'. A salt was normally silver, about the size of a Bluebell Matchbox and it had a Bristol blue glass liner so as to protect the silver from tarnish. Hope I'm not boring you too much as there's more! There was a tiny wee silver spoon that sat in the salt and you placed a small amount of salt on your plate and whenever something needed salted, you used the tip of your knife to move it on to the piece of meat for example. It was never spread about your food as it may not all have required salt. Salt was very expensive and way back in the day, Roman soldiers were paid in salt! Hence the saying, 'he's worth his salt' (his salary/wage). Now I'm off to do a nice plate of chips for my lunch!

@octaviussludberry9016 10 ай бұрын

@@chelamcguire Salts have been around since the 16th century. Wonder when someone sprinkled rather than dipped for the first time?

@Austin-cj9fo 8 ай бұрын

He also had a good run of rationing during the war I'm sure. Good way to not use too much salt.

@spikephotography 8 ай бұрын

Salary comes from the Latin word salarium, which also means "salary" and has the Salary comes from the Latin word salarium, which also means "salary" and has the root sal, or "salt." In ancient Rome, it specifically meant the amount of money allotted to a Roman soldier to buy salt, which was an expensive but essential commodity. root sal, or "salt." In ancient Rome, it specifically meant the amount of money allotted to a Roman soldier to buy salt, which was an expensive but essential commodity.

@arepaarepa4764 7 ай бұрын

The past is a foreign country…

@baby_joe 7 ай бұрын

0:30 easy on the chips there

@jarrodbarkley9061 3 ай бұрын

What a lovely accent!

@professormcclaine5738 3 ай бұрын

Oh my what a beautiful sight.

@borderlands6606 10 ай бұрын

Fish and chips cooked in beef dripping, delicious.

@1974Kyle 10 ай бұрын

How small is that portion?!

@maxhammick948 10 ай бұрын

3:55 I've never seen anyone dip chips into a pile of salt before

@9educt 8 ай бұрын

i used to do that with sweet chestnuts

@Mark-lj1dj 4 ай бұрын

It must be an old fashioned thing. Apparently it's still royal etiquette to do that. Personally I think too much salt would go on each chip 🤷‍♂️

@lordpitnolen2196 Ай бұрын

I remember seeing the "buster stalls" in Kirk Wynd, behind the Overgate, in Dundee. That would be in the 1950s.

@matthewtrow5698 10 ай бұрын

It's odd, but when I was a nipper in Birmingham, in the early 70's, we got our chips wrapped in old newspapers - I don't recall any paper containers. Yes, we would put it all in a bag to take home, but it would still be wrapped in newspaper. Perhaps it was regional or perhaps newsprint paper came back into fashion. That wrapping didn't last long though - but we still get our chips wrapped in the same type of paper, just without the print.

@donlogan83 5 ай бұрын

Wrapping chips in newspaper died out when printing presses started buying back unsold copies and recycling them. That started in the 70s on a mass scale, so it probably varied by area whether newspaper was used or not.

@nigden1 Ай бұрын

The time when the BBC was watchable.

@mattwinstanley2544 5 ай бұрын

The Scots do a good chippy not going to lie - whenever Man United draw a Scottish team, I always have a chip shop supper before I head back south to north Manchester.

@boabm6522 3 ай бұрын

I concur, as a Jock living in England, look forward to heading back north for a chippy. Do bigger naan bread also.

@michealmccabe4666 5 ай бұрын

I think the first chippy is at lochee Rd end of cleghorn St used to stay there

@jarrodbarkley9061 3 ай бұрын

You stab it so! 😂

@Ross.Cavendish 9 ай бұрын

It's Forth Robinson from The Men From The Ministry!😄

@TopOfThePopsFan 6 ай бұрын

I could do a passable voice imitation of Mr. Robertson in the early 70s 😂

@ElDerpy 6 күн бұрын

My local chippy was doing the newspaper until the mid 90s.

@ElDerpy 6 күн бұрын

In fact, every chippy I visited between ~1980 and 2000 had the newspaper wrappings. Always found it odd at age four to be greeted by a pair of page three boobies wrapping a piece of cod!

@steventyreman3642 4 ай бұрын

Fife and Alan Whicker ! When telly worth watching 😊

@themadplotter 5 ай бұрын

The first fish and chip shop opened in London in around 1880 the first curry house was 1830 ( I may have the dates slightly off) curry is more British and fish and chips.

@computer_toucher 10 ай бұрын

Waxing poetic about fish and chips. They don't make TV like this any more. But of course now we have KZfaq. But there you have to find it. This got served to you :)

@brianartillery 10 ай бұрын

Made me think about the phrase that indicates someone's inability to find a partner on a Friday night in Scotland: "Chips and hame." Buy chips. Go home. Alone. 😆😆😆

@ErnieCG Күн бұрын

Good video

@leightcaine6537 4 ай бұрын

I like the oil in the background relaxing

@OlafProt 10 ай бұрын

You just cant go wrong with a Fyfe report. Brilliant stuff. 0:30 is fascinating, compare that to how we gorge now. Although maybe Scotland is like Northern Ireland. When you order just a fish here, you always get a wee sprinkling of chips. Not like those tight fisted English lol We never used to peel potatoes either when i started my first temp job as a 15 yr old in 1987 we washed them white too...the man at 3:05 in the background is like a spectre from the past. I love thinking like this. Like who decided we could go from a cow, to a meat pie, or a stew. Or a lamb, to shepherds pie. All those ingredients and ideas evolving... Fascinating. (just so you all know I'm not looking for anyone to mansplain the answers to my questions).

@mc-yt2rc 10 ай бұрын

Tight fisted English? Bailing you out for years!!!! Can't afford to give away chips. Lol

@thecourageouschristian 10 ай бұрын

Mmm, miss those Fish n Chips. ❤️

@danieltownsend6500 3 ай бұрын

3:55 Strangest salt technique I've ever seen. Who knew salt was actually a dip?

@Salacious-Crumb 3 ай бұрын

What a year 1874 .. chips and villa

@user-jf5jb4gk1w 3 ай бұрын

Salt dip, old school 😮

@Mark-lj1dj Ай бұрын

Why do I keep coming back to this 😂

@MichaelBosley 10 ай бұрын

And we thought shrink-flation was bad now. That portion was woeful.

@jujutrini8412 9 ай бұрын

No wonder they were all skinny then.😂😂😂

@athek7081 6 ай бұрын

I didn't realise Mark Hughes was from Dundee!!

@Mick_Ts_Chick 10 ай бұрын

I'm from the US. I wondered in the UK, is there a specific fish that's usually used, or does that vary by region? Or do some of these shops have a choice of different fish?

@katethomas5712 10 ай бұрын

It's usually cod or haddock. Sometimes plaice

@Mick_Ts_Chick 10 ай бұрын

@@katethomas5712 OK, thanks. Where I live the most popular fish is probably flounder or salmon, but cod is pretty easy to find. The fresh water fish we like are trout, catfish, crappie, and bass.

@katethomas5712 10 ай бұрын

@@Mick_Ts_Chick Interesting. I'm not sure I can imagine some of those fish battered though. I've not heard of crappie?!

@Mick_Ts_Chick 10 ай бұрын

@@katethomas5712 Crappie are in lakes and ponds and are a type of sunfish like large mouth bass and bluegill. They are delicious fried! We pretty much fry everything up in the south, lol. I'm in North Carolina.

@malinkysteve 10 ай бұрын

In Scotland you're much more likely to get haddock as the fish in a fish supper (what we call fish with chips), whereas it's more commonly cod elsewhere.

@Skizzores 5 ай бұрын

The first ever chippy in UK? That’s a bold statement

@krashd 6 күн бұрын

If you think of Dundee as it is today but in the middle of the 1800's it was one of the most industrious trading cities in Britain so it makes sense that some new grub from elsewhere might get served here first.

@TS-1267 6 ай бұрын

... The Scot's Took it Up a Notch With the 'Deep Fried Mars Bar'... A 'MUNCHIE' Indeed 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🖖🤓 2:47

@Kie-7077 10 ай бұрын

Lol for a second there when he said he went to get the coke I was imagining he brought back a stack of coca cola bottles, but of course he meant coke like coal.

@twocvbloke 10 ай бұрын

Papier mache trays? What a novel idea............. :P

@krashd 6 күн бұрын

Dundee brought chips to the UK? Man we need to add a C to the three J's.

@Markcain268 10 ай бұрын

The guy who works at my local chip shop swears he's elvis!

@Mick_Ts_Chick 10 ай бұрын

Well ya just never know.... 🤔

@gpo746 10 ай бұрын

Paper mache tray in 1964 ... then we moved to that awful polystyrene . Now we see polystyrene as quite terrible because of it gassing off and tainting our food and not decomposing ...we are going back to compressed paper mache trays which people are wondering "why didn't we do this before" WE DID and this video proves it. Important that we retain older technologies , some older technologies that is ...I'm not referring to the wee plastic sauce pot either!. Fascinating film .

@pit_stop77 10 ай бұрын

What tiny portions compared to now

@davidpayne3938 Ай бұрын

As long as there is a Britain then there's always going to be fish and chips..🇬🇧

@fellspoint9364 26 күн бұрын

I could smash an order of fish and chips right now

@jamesmontgomery5493 2 ай бұрын

"whether you like it or not, cigarettes and lung cancer" .... this is 1964 and yet people still debate to this very day as if it's brand new information! The power of denial is mind boggling.....

@TheRattyBiker 4 ай бұрын

0:29 someone got ripped off on chips!