1972: INNER CITY STREET SONGS | Dusty Bluebells | Weird and Wonderful | BBC Archive

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2 ай бұрын

It’s a part of growing up that few children would recognise now.
Not just the games that kids would play out on the streets with their mates, but songs, rhymes and chants passed on from older siblings and parents. The terraced streets of cities all across the UK and Ireland used to ring with them. Equal parts folk wisdom, nonsense, tradition and larger than life characters, with a hundred local variations - what did you sing?
The livewires in this film were the students of St Mary’s Primary School on Divis St in Belfast.
Clip taken from Dusty Bluebells, originally broadcast on BBC One on Friday, 31 March, 1972.
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@tharg330
@tharg330 2 ай бұрын
I took part in this documentary as a child. A follow up was made in 2000+ called 'Whatever Happened to The Dusty Bluebells'. I can't find it on KZfaq, but it's well worth watching if you can find it.
@genevievedolan1288
@genevievedolan1288 2 ай бұрын
Which one is you, if you don’t mind me asking?
@AntonyCummins
@AntonyCummins 2 ай бұрын
Which one are you?
@Mistydazzle
@Mistydazzle Ай бұрын
I was wondering if any of the kids would be seeing this, now. I was about the same age, back then. A few of those ditties were actually sung in the USA, as well.
@tharg330
@tharg330 Ай бұрын
I was one of the boys looking through the gate at the headstone sculptor. I featured more in the ‘Whatever happened’ program. That’s quite a revelationary show.
@Mistydazzle
@Mistydazzle Ай бұрын
@@tharg330 nice that you are captured for posterity - and, with sound! All my films form back then, are silent. :(
@Farold_Haltermeyer
@Farold_Haltermeyer Ай бұрын
What a beautifully created piece of documentary
@PompeyBoy66
@PompeyBoy66 2 ай бұрын
I played like that, born 1966, but we had some different songs and games. Marbles on drain covers, skipping, something up the wall, and football football football
@magdahearne497
@magdahearne497 2 ай бұрын
That was a lovely trip down memory lane seeing kids playing out in the streets & hearing some old songs....fast forward only 20yrs & round where I lived there wasn't one kid playing in the streets due to traffic & idiot drivers...the only time I hear my neighbours kids these days is if they're kicking a ball around in the back garden, which only happens in school holidays, or I hear them talking when they're going to & from school. I guess a lot of kids are indoors watching TV or playing on games consoles.... it's sad to say, it, but I really think we had the better childhoods back in the 60s & 70s, the roads were safer for one thing & technology may be great for some things, but you can't beat learning to interact & build up social skills with others through playing together outdoors. You don't get that as much online, it's a very toxic place sometimes.
@melgrant7404
@melgrant7404 2 ай бұрын
Agree.it was alot safer back then too.because it isn't safe these days that's why many are stuck indoors.
@magdahearne497
@magdahearne497 2 ай бұрын
@@melgrant7404 sadly yes
@20thCB
@20thCB 2 ай бұрын
The relentless rise in the number of cars in the past 50 years has put an end to these kinds of street scenes. But also there was bugger all on TV compared to today, and little else for kids to do than play outside.
@magdahearne497
@magdahearne497 2 ай бұрын
@20thCB Yes, TV was definitely limited back then, finishing for kids before the news started at 6 pm & apart from Watch with Mother, there wasn't a lot on during the day, unless it was the school holidays, but even then there tended to be more on at Xmas. It seems a lifetime away that the night's viewing ended with the national anthem & pics of the royal family. Having said that, the amount of stuff to watch on streaming services these days gives me a feeling of being overawed, I find there's too much choice & I end up not watching anything, which defeats the object really.
@SunnyvaleTrailerParkSupervisor
@SunnyvaleTrailerParkSupervisor 2 ай бұрын
Sometimes toxic? Try all the time.
@genevievedolan1288
@genevievedolan1288 2 ай бұрын
I learnt the dusty bluebells one from some Cypriot kids in Limassol Cyprus in about 1958, when I was about 8! They had memorized it from some other kids, even though they didn’t speak English! They couldn’t believe I didn’t know it! A Good memory! My favorite was ‘the big ship sails on the alley alley oh, the alley alley alley oh, the alley ally oh, on the last day of September, and the captain says it will never never do, never never do, never never do, on the last day of September….this was a winding in and out game too
@Londonechoes
@Londonechoes 2 ай бұрын
Lovely video! We need these ‘third spaces’ back where people can mix and meet organically out of work and home (without needing to pay). That involves making them safer again with more community spirit
@dfpguitar
@dfpguitar 2 ай бұрын
The spaces still exist. The children were playing in the street. And there was nothing special about these streets, ordinary terraces houses and blocks of flats of lower working class folk. Loads of derelict shops. Even soldiers in the streets so I expect the "troubles" were also afoot. But the children had a vibrant fulfilling time outdoors with others, they played, socialised and explored. You can tell by the words of their songs that they were amongst ugly adult problems. They have songs about alcoholism, being killed and being in the grave. But still they sing joyously, in community with no outside direction. Children of the same age today would have grown out of playground songs 4-5 years younger. Instead they'd be ripping around on illegal motorcycles or watching pornography on the internet. This has nothing to do with an absence of a third space, which was the streets. That still exist!
@gtaluvr1992
@gtaluvr1992 2 ай бұрын
@@dfpguitar as someone who was a kid in the late 2000s and 2010s we arent all scruffs, as im typing this there are literally kids playing football and climbing the trees in the woods next to my house. I think you're just bitter that you arent a kid anymore pal
@rabbieburns2501
@rabbieburns2501 2 ай бұрын
Superb! A lot of the same songs & games were sung & played in Scotland, and likely in streets and school playgrounds all over the Wales & England too. Songs passed down from generation to generation, hopefully still sung and played, but I highly doubt it.
@boilerroombob
@boilerroombob 2 ай бұрын
How innocent....I wonder where they all are now
@bardo0007
@bardo0007 2 ай бұрын
Pensioners all of them
@Mazalinda
@Mazalinda 2 ай бұрын
As a child of the 1950s growing up on a council estate in Harlow new town many of these songs and games are so familiar to me. Our street was full of kids “playing out” from dawn to dusk and often older folk would come out in the evening and join in. The paving stones were ideal for hopscotch and for many years I had a corn on the little finger of my left hand from playing “jacks”. There were a lot of ball games with variations of tag and games without balls such as chase games like “What’s the time, Mr Wolf” and “British Bulldog”. We would act out the cowboy tv series we saw or play “knights” with improvised swords and pretend horses. We had skipping ropes and hula hoops and skates and bikes. Our street was ideal for hide and seek. There were very few cars parked there then but now it is lined with cars so there is nowhere to play even if kids wanted to. All the parks we played in have been concreted over to make way for housing. It was a child’s idyll when I was a kid but it’s all gone now. The swings, the slide, the roundabout, the paddling pool. All gone.
@genevievedolan1288
@genevievedolan1288 2 ай бұрын
It is very sad that all those things are gone, and children don’t seem to have any freedom to play and roam anymore
@rvbsoundfactory
@rvbsoundfactory 2 ай бұрын
I'm a Little Teapot! Yay Yay. Beautiful documentary bbc.
@fredo1070
@fredo1070 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful, reminds me of primary school.
@robinofilfracombe712
@robinofilfracombe712 2 ай бұрын
Not a mobile phone or iPad in sight, you cannot replace social interaction. Wonderful video.
@RandomBerserker
@RandomBerserker 2 ай бұрын
Lovely video archive
@ernestoglez6725
@ernestoglez6725 2 ай бұрын
4:40 we know that one in México. Marinero que se fue a la mari, mari, mar... Para ver que podia veri, veri, ver... Y lo unico que pudo veri, veri, ver... Fue el fondo de la mari, mari, mar
@RandomnessTube.
@RandomnessTube. 2 ай бұрын
You had no choice but to make your own fun back then and play in the street but at least you knew who everyone was unlike today.
@jameshardwick2726
@jameshardwick2726 2 ай бұрын
Check out 'The Singing Street', a 1951 short film from Edinburgh. It can be found on the National Library of Scotland website for free. They were doing In & Out the Dusting Bluebells as well.
@neatodd
@neatodd 2 ай бұрын
I hope that some of these kids (in their 60s now I suppose) get to see this video
@RandomBerserker
@RandomBerserker 2 ай бұрын
Nice archive video
@luiathmorgan7709
@luiathmorgan7709 2 ай бұрын
When kids rulled the streets now its cars and "Perps !
@ernestoglez6725
@ernestoglez6725 2 ай бұрын
"Oranges and Lemons, say the bells of St. Clement's/ You owe me three farthings, say the bells of St. Martins,/ When will you pay me? say the bells of Old Bailey,/ When I grow rich, say the bells of Shoreditch./ Here comes a candle to light you to bed,/ Here comes a chopper to chop off your head!"
@genevievedolan1288
@genevievedolan1288 2 ай бұрын
You left some out….when will that be said the bells of Stepney, I do not know said the great bells of bow…
@patrickcrowther9195
@patrickcrowther9195 2 ай бұрын
I would swap that exquisitely-made short film for all contemporary television with its blare and bluster. It was wonderful. Beautifully-paced, poetic both in its narration and its visual beauty. The camerawork was so good, each shot could have been a still photograph. One second a very low viewpoint, then an overhead shot, then a more standard one. Children interacting, enjoying an outdoor life, playing games and singing songs with deep roots. There is much to be learned here.
@missingwords-du1ib
@missingwords-du1ib Ай бұрын
Was rhat Laura Mcvie singing through the bars, I'm sure that was her name. Brigid Campbell, Peggy Fisher and others. The Gentleman talking over was the late David Hammond . Now I must go to that shop and buy some dulse.
@rickboshaw7026
@rickboshaw7026 2 ай бұрын
Just brilliant!
@camerachica73
@camerachica73 2 ай бұрын
No one plays outside any more. In the 80's I spent several summer holidays up in Redcar and my friends and I would hang out in Locke Park, where there were tons of boys by the side of the boating lake, fishing. I returned back in 2019 and the park was empty and the lakeside bare. Very sad.
@user-mb8op5hx7h
@user-mb8op5hx7h 2 ай бұрын
Brings BK memories half I am unknown to but 😊 remember the others ❤..
@user-mb8op5hx7h
@user-mb8op5hx7h 2 ай бұрын
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@andrelavandero3041
@andrelavandero3041 2 ай бұрын
Environments like these played a role in Roger Water’s composition of The Wall, as he was writing his interpretation of how adult superiority within education was indirectly abusing these kids as students, depriving them of not heeding to their standards.
@glynrhys68
@glynrhys68 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Anyone recognise the nonsense song the girl on the steps is singing?
@missingwords-du1ib
@missingwords-du1ib Ай бұрын
Laura Mcveigh I think singing that song through the bars
@missingwords-du1ib
@missingwords-du1ib Ай бұрын
The Girl on the steps is singing Fair Rosa, hope this helps.
@lonesomeStu
@lonesomeStu 2 ай бұрын
A million miles away.....
@PlanetImo
@PlanetImo 2 ай бұрын
Fabulous :)
@subswithoutvids-dw6dv
@subswithoutvids-dw6dv 2 ай бұрын
There were so many kids back then.
@maycontainnuts3127
@maycontainnuts3127 2 ай бұрын
people could afford to have em lol
@subswithoutvids-dw6dv
@subswithoutvids-dw6dv 2 ай бұрын
@@maycontainnuts3127 The same problem but more serious in the far east.
@harrisonmckenzie4905
@harrisonmckenzie4905 2 ай бұрын
I take it you mean W kids because nearly all inner city streets are populated by black, Asian and Arab kids now.
@rareblues78daddy
@rareblues78daddy 2 ай бұрын
The BBC needed all the fresh victims they could get.
@SunnyvaleTrailerParkSupervisor
@SunnyvaleTrailerParkSupervisor 2 ай бұрын
There is more nowadays
@whiteonggoy7009
@whiteonggoy7009 2 ай бұрын
never to be seen again
@frankiefugazi
@frankiefugazi 2 ай бұрын
*What's The Time, Mr Wolf?*
@Thelaughingfrauditor
@Thelaughingfrauditor 2 ай бұрын
The girl on the stairs looks like a young Jennifer Gibney (Cathy Brown in Mrs Browns Boys)
@frankiefugazi
@frankiefugazi 2 ай бұрын
*The Wicker Man* Vibes 😂
@CiroOmeara
@CiroOmeara 2 ай бұрын
La verdadera infancia. Los años maravillosos que dejan buenos recuerdos.
@ernestoglez6725
@ernestoglez6725 2 ай бұрын
4:40 recuerdas esa rima?
@jagmarc
@jagmarc 2 ай бұрын
Me alegro decir... yo era ninyo en aquel día en este país y lo recuerdo y hoy en este día en algunos rincones del mundo todavia hay ninyos jugando y cantando en la calle, en las Islas canarias! En mi calle propia...
@leejones4497
@leejones4497 2 ай бұрын
I bet if you went back to that street now, every bit of space would be taken up by cars, including most of the pavements. And they wonder why kids don't play out any more.
@sarahlouise7163
@sarahlouise7163 Ай бұрын
they don't play out coz they have technology. if they wanted to go out, they would
@FHIPrincePeter
@FHIPrincePeter Ай бұрын
Gone. All Gone. Replaced by Tick Tock and Snap Chat.
@catherinesummers5057
@catherinesummers5057 2 ай бұрын
God be glorified in this generation Lord have mercy❤
@mr.invisible3123
@mr.invisible3123 2 ай бұрын
God is useless to hell with his glorification meray my ass🖕
@davidprice5563
@davidprice5563 2 ай бұрын
And that was back in (19)72 - while in 2024: (Where is everybody???)
@grinsko6741
@grinsko6741 2 ай бұрын
Watching KZfaq.
@ev4898
@ev4898 2 ай бұрын
1920s Children: ‘Ringa Ringa Rosies’ 1980s Children:’ Zippy and Bungle at the jungle’ 2024 Children: ‘Ten Prime bottles sitting on the wall’
@4879daniel
@4879daniel 2 ай бұрын
No knives
@Will-nn6ux
@Will-nn6ux 2 ай бұрын
They are young primary age, of course there are no knives...
@Mkbshg8
@Mkbshg8 Ай бұрын
Litle lads would get pen knives for Christmas etc in them days and usually didn't stab one another, not in anger anyway.
@petergivenbless900
@petergivenbless900 2 ай бұрын
The cruelest forms of toture are always the oldest forms of torture.
@bardo0007
@bardo0007 2 ай бұрын
Well it didn't last for generations, it's 2024 and they all went quite.
@grinsko6741
@grinsko6741 2 ай бұрын
Quite what?
@grahamstewart615
@grahamstewart615 2 ай бұрын
Quiet
@Puglia506
@Puglia506 Ай бұрын
Do children sing and play anymore?😢
@drocles
@drocles 2 ай бұрын
Well that was horrific
@XJMX
@XJMX 2 ай бұрын
covers much of the same ground as the book 'the lore and language of schoolchildren', although in this case, video is far more beneficial to the preservation of this aspect of dying folk culture.
@dstanl
@dstanl 2 ай бұрын
I am a little Dutch girl as pretty as pretty can be be be…
@genevievedolan1288
@genevievedolan1288 2 ай бұрын
Tell us the rest!
@WTU208
@WTU208 2 ай бұрын
The days before rubber boat bandits.
@nicolem5626
@nicolem5626 2 ай бұрын
Back when kids dressed appropriately
@BeverleyButterfly
@BeverleyButterfly 2 ай бұрын
They are all in mini skirts lol
@nicolem5626
@nicolem5626 2 ай бұрын
@@BeverleyButterfly They're wearing knee length skirts. get your eyes checked.
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou
@IAmSoMuchBetterThanYou 2 ай бұрын
As opposed to what? Girls wear leggings under skirts these days, like Muslim kids.
@richard-davies
@richard-davies 2 ай бұрын
Back when they used to wear scruffy old clothes.
@djdrwatson
@djdrwatson 2 ай бұрын
Today's kids are too fat and lazy to be playing outside. They've got very short attention spans so wouldn't be able to remember all these song lyrics. Give them a mobile phone, iPad, laptop or games console, Tik Tok, some fast food and (maybe even throw in a vape too) they'll be happy! 😂😂
@ghostofgralton6859
@ghostofgralton6859 2 ай бұрын
It's your generation keeping them indoors and closing off third spaces
@FIGHTGAME100
@FIGHTGAME100 2 ай бұрын
Dawn of the vape-tard
@melgrant7404
@melgrant7404 2 ай бұрын
​@ghostofgralton6859 why because its not a safe society anymore.
@grinsko6741
@grinsko6741 2 ай бұрын
Says the person sitting there glued to KZfaq.
@Bucketbrain82
@Bucketbrain82 2 ай бұрын
Bit WHITE for the BBC?
@Mkbshg8
@Mkbshg8 Ай бұрын
What u on about? It's Ireland in the early 70s
@Bucketbrain82
@Bucketbrain82 Ай бұрын
@@Mkbshg8 you have triple boost, tv licence or jst new account shill?????? ??????
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