Thousands of Russians fighting for a Ukrainian passport

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Thousands of Russians fighting for a Ukrainian passport - BBC News

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More than 170,000 Russians are still living in Ukraine after their home nation launched its full-scale invasion on the country, according to figures from the State migration service.
Some are even fighting in Ukraine’s army. But their situation is complicated.
They say they can’t access basic services without a Ukrainian passport. To get that, they’d first have to travel to Russia to surrender their citizenship.
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@timallison8560 9 ай бұрын

anyone fighting on the front for ukraine SHOULD immediately be provided a ukrainian passport.

@rebeccahenderson7761 9 ай бұрын

Until they turn and infiltrate.

@boristihon4896 9 ай бұрын

@@rebeccahenderson7761There are more than enough Ukrainians who spy for Russia

@MrLudwig101 9 ай бұрын

Well except for international fighters? What would a Swede want with a Ukrainian passport?

@PatrickTheBag 9 ай бұрын

@@MrLudwig101maybe he goes to fight in the foreign legion and finds a very grateful ukrainian wife?

@Starmer_Crushed_The_Far_Right 9 ай бұрын

@@rebeccahenderson7761 Thousands of Russians have switched over to team Ukraine. I guess it's human nature to want too be a WINNER.

@DardaniaLion 9 ай бұрын

Pointless war that has put a knife through the heart of people.

@rgriffinRETIRED_SHEEPDOG 9 ай бұрын

What a stupid question he asked at the end. Asking her to imagine the worst case scenario so that he can end his piece dramatically. Low class.

@tanveerhasan2382 9 ай бұрын

Sad

@vladyslavr5286 9 ай бұрын

low class, agree!

@rooster1012 9 ай бұрын

No it was to make an impact about how messed up her situation is and how Ukraine is failing these people.

@5ufo 9 ай бұрын

It's paid a job for russian agents "opposition" oligarchs, to make you feel pity for russians

@vladyslavr5286 9 ай бұрын

@@rooster1012 the whole country is in this situation, it is called war

@stroitelj 9 ай бұрын

Ethnic Russians in Ukraine and Russian citizens in Ukraine are different things . There are 170,000 Russian citizens in Ukraine , 7 million ethnic Russians in Ukraine . but Russian citizens can be ethnic Ukrainians

@oleksii000 9 ай бұрын

If you were to be colonised and “your” new culture gets enforced on your ancestors (it stays different from the culture of colonisers colonisers), would you be an ethnic descendant of colonisers?

@msblue1003 9 ай бұрын

@@oleksii000 Ethnicity should not matter. If you have lived legally in a country for a minimum number of years you should be entitled to apply for and get citizenship of that country

@solconcordia4315 9 ай бұрын

I agree that one should be able to apply for citizenship after living in a country for a minimum number of years stipulated by the naturalization law of the hosting country. Whether one gets it or not depends upon other things such as test results of language proficiency and knowledge of the form of government, duties and rights of a citizen, form and function of the government one swears to uphold and support, etc. The minimum residency requirement varies among countries. In Hong Kong for my parents many decades ago, it was seven years. In the City of New York (which includes New York City on Manhattan Island, Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, and Staten Island,) it was five years.

@oleksander 9 ай бұрын

there have never been 7 million ethnic russians in Ukraine. People said that they are ethnic russians to save themselves from repressions or to get better job. This is how it worked in the USSR. Anyway, nowadays ethinicity doesn't matter. These people have issues with the citizenship only because of their passports, but I hope the goverment will solve the problem soon

@stroitelj 9 ай бұрын

@@oleksander There were 11 355 582 ethnic Russians in Ukraine in 1989 . There were Repressions in 1989??? 😀

@occamraiser 9 ай бұрын

Ukraine SHOULD give a passport to anyone of any nationality who fights for them. If I was in the international brigade I would consider it an appropriate recognition for the fact I risked my life for Ukraine.... Regarding russians who don't fight....well, we all remember Viktor Quisling ....enough said.

@bigsoap186 9 ай бұрын

Well there is a problem not mentioned really, Ukraine does not allow dual citizenship but to renounce russian citizenship one must go physically to russia or an embassy and renounce it there, which means they could also be arrested and as a stateless person you have absolutely no protection. Ukraine cannot say “okay you can just renounce it in ukraine” because this would be completely illegal and violating russian sovereignty.. russia removed all diplomats from ukraine, so it’s impossible for them to renounce the citizenship basically

@zdravkoavdalovic3131 9 ай бұрын

@@originalunoriginal4055 in Florida or in Israel?

@maxkosh4839 9 ай бұрын

yes, unfortunately, getting a Ukrainian citizenship is hard. And this is a shame for Ukrainian government. We should encourage decent people to get it, but instead we scare them away... this is just ridicuolus..

@Christiandk1000 9 ай бұрын

But getting a Russian passport is really easy for Ukrainians

@maxkosh4839 9 ай бұрын

@@Christiandk1000 and who wants a russian passport? Nobody

@ktng3176 9 ай бұрын

I think the Ukrainian Government just want to be wary. They don't want to end up like EU and US, importing too many MOBS

@5ufo 9 ай бұрын

You can't know who is decent. Presence of russian language and culture in Ukraine brings corruption, pro-russian politicians and invasion, it is too risky

@alexbukovsky4621 9 ай бұрын

@@maxkosh4839 Tell that to the 4 million people of the DNR and LNR.

@MichelleFreebird 9 ай бұрын

Bots lose their connection. Slava Ukraine

@ziepex7009 9 ай бұрын

lose*

@JohnJohn-bz1lq 9 ай бұрын

???

@man_3782 9 ай бұрын

Another ukr bot

@xa-12musk8 9 ай бұрын

Слава Украина!

@alexbamon627 9 ай бұрын

It's sad her tears how much she's suffering only she knows let's pray for her. Help her lord.

@ktng3176 9 ай бұрын

DON'T BE TOO SOFT. Don't sympathize especially with war time women. They will bite you back when they are on-board a safe Country later. If you are following the current PROTEST EVENTS around the world, you will notice that major of those ANGRY MOBS are women. Some even are those elderly ones. Who do you think cultivate this HATE CULTURE on these young protesters?

@MJane.888 9 ай бұрын

99% of posts are scammers 😂😂

@Nauda999 9 ай бұрын

170,000 Russians? what happened to the 8 million Russians that lived in Ukraine in 2014? I guess they are talking about Russian citizens, not about ethnic Russians.

@GwynBleys 9 ай бұрын

Or maybe they dont know wtf they are talking about :)

@nenasiek 9 ай бұрын

Theres no ethnicity called russian, slavic is one tho

@GwynBleys 9 ай бұрын

@@nenasiek There is nationality Russian and a citizen of Russia... described by one word "Russian" in English... In Russian its 2 different words...

@Nauda999 9 ай бұрын

@@nenasiek ok, let's go that way - that only ethnicity is slavic, there are no Poles, Bulgarians, Romanians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Slovenes, Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, Montenegrins, Macedonians, all are Slavs, also known as slaves.

@zoom777 9 ай бұрын

Who would want a Ukrainian passport not even refugees

@Starmer_Crushed_The_Far_Right 9 ай бұрын

Meanwhile 4.6 million military aged Russian men who ran away from Putins mobilization are applying for overseas passports in the countries they fled too.,

@BlackEpyon 9 ай бұрын

Bureaucracy. It also doesn't help that Ukraine doesn't allow dual citizenship.

@ROCnotforsale 9 ай бұрын

Those who volunteer to fight for Ukraine can get an Ukrainian passport yet she fights for Ukraine in a different way and speaks Ukrainian but can't get one?

@velvetmagnetta3074 9 ай бұрын

Good lord, KZfaq! What's up with all these fake bots/scammers/marketers on this poor BBC report? I can't even find any comments about the story.

@Starmer_Crushed_The_Far_Right 9 ай бұрын

It's Russian bots spamming to clog up the comment sections to drown out pro Ukraine comments. Report them as spam.

@bobbobrov427 9 ай бұрын

Millions of Ukrainians used to migrate to Russia to find jobs before 2022. Many of them decided not to come back home because Russian citizenship is easier to obtain due to its migration policy

@NinjaKuma 9 ай бұрын

This is a joke.

@user-si9rj8by5k 9 ай бұрын

God Save Ukraine and Ukrainian people, I don't think this War is going to end any time soon...!

@paul7TM 9 ай бұрын

Which war is that...the beeb flips casually from one to the other.

@MS-Hussain 9 ай бұрын

Thanks to USA

@MS-Hussain 9 ай бұрын

Dirty US and Europe politics everywhere

@4bytedismble724 9 ай бұрын

Russia and Ukraine were brothers until Satan America intervened

@George-bq5uz 9 ай бұрын

😼

@jaker3151 9 ай бұрын

I don't see why the Ukrainian government doesn't expedite/speed-up such applications. Where people have lived in and/or are clearly loyal to Ukraine. It's not like the Russian government followed due process when they tried to get people in the occupied regions of Ukraine to convert to Russian citizens, or when they kidnapped Ukrainian children and moved them into Russia.

@havanasyndrome3024 9 ай бұрын

You idiоts still repeating BS about "kidnapped children"? Kids going to summer camp with their parent's consent isn't "kidnapping" inbесile.

@TheStormtrooper00 9 ай бұрын

Things obviously get harder during war time.

@ROCnotforsale 9 ай бұрын

@@TheStormtrooper00 Not when it comes to stealing money and weapons. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@5ufo 9 ай бұрын

It is hard to check who is really loyal, presence of russian language, culture and with it vatnik mindsets in Ukraine is what results in corruption, pro-russian politicians, and russian invasion as a last stage. Ukraine should be very strict specifically to russians. It's too risky. Especially during war

@TheStormtrooper00 9 ай бұрын

@@ROCnotforsaleccp wankbot

@monsieurgrigny 9 ай бұрын

A very moving and unusual report.

@romanroman1453 9 ай бұрын

Good part of that 170 thousand had years if not decades to renounce Russian passports. Many chose not to do so. Ukraine was full of Russian spies before the war. So some degree of septicism towards Russian passport holders is understandable. I’m confident that Ukrainian state will treat favorably people who proved their allegiance during war time. But as you can imagine granting citizenship is low on priority list of Ukraine. It has to survive first and make sure that Ukrainian passport still exists in few years time.

@martinbreznicky5871 9 ай бұрын

Can we believe BBC ?

@kacodemonio 9 ай бұрын

Yes we can, it is not the same as RT.

@piuswanyaga8361 9 ай бұрын

@@kacodemonioThats ignorance. You should read one article and tell me whether or not there is anything close to propaganda unlike BBC

@jinkazama7491 9 ай бұрын

There’s an old quote, it says: “You better stop lying or you’ll end up a BBC reporter”. That quote itself should give you an answer.

@zurielsss 9 ай бұрын

This is terrible. Give them the passports, just register them

@rubiconklbrutorowman7577 9 ай бұрын

Except anyone fighting in Ukraine front line SHOULD grant Ukraine Citizenship or issue passport LIKE the USA! USA

@user-im1ld9gw9o 9 ай бұрын

You know a country is failing if their citizens are willing to fight against the opposition and want citizenship for the country their fighting in

@GwynBleys 9 ай бұрын

You know a whole generation has failed when there are kids that believe this nonsense.

@niblet112 9 ай бұрын

@@GwynBleysbillions got jabbed multiple times. We already established the masses are stupid

@lostfox27 9 ай бұрын

@GwynBleys make sure And carry sunflower seeds in your pocket 🌻🥰🌻🥰🌻🥰🌻

@GwynBleys 9 ай бұрын

@@lostfox27 What are we in 90s? its pistachios now

@lostfox27 9 ай бұрын

@@GwynBleys not for the orcs fortunately 🥰

@walterhilhorst3670 9 ай бұрын

These people have their hearts in the right place; it is ignorant of Ukraine not to recognize them as a resource and an asset for its future.

@magellanicspaceclouds 9 ай бұрын

Very sad. They should be given a Ukrainian passport as soon as possible.

@Marco_Polo790 9 ай бұрын

And how many Ukrainians living in Russia!? 😉

@TheTrueOnyxRose 9 ай бұрын

…kidnapped and taken over the border to Russia?

@Cruzeoc101 9 ай бұрын

@@TheTrueOnyxRose well none in that scenario, theyre called prisoners of war. But in other cases many Ukrainians have fled to Russia

@Starmer_Crushed_The_Far_Right 9 ай бұрын

Roughly 3 million people have been stolen from southern Ukraine and transported to Russia's far east.

@ItalMiser117 9 ай бұрын

deported*@@Cruzeoc101

@socool2998 9 ай бұрын

She smiles in pain 😢

@dnguyen787 9 ай бұрын

One of many casualties of war! It's another headache for the Ukraine authority.

@fastcharger3314 9 ай бұрын

Ukraine should make exceptions in situations like that. This is awful.

@operator9858 9 ай бұрын

You dont know much about the ukrainians do you? Wow...

@fastcharger3314 9 ай бұрын

@@operator9858 are you a genius and nobody knows

@operator9858 9 ай бұрын

@@fastcharger3314 doesnt take a genius to see how nazi's operate son..

@ktng3176 9 ай бұрын

Ukraine doesn't want to be another EU, UK and US - importing too many MOBS

@havanasyndrome3024 9 ай бұрын

@@fastcharger3314again. You clearly don't know anything about the ukrane. The country doesn't give a crap about people. At all. On the other hand, if you got money for bribes, things get done way faster than they do in the West. I got a relative that was adopting kids out of Ukraine. Adoption agency said plan to be in Ukraine for 3 weeks for the full process. They spent there 3 months, asking, begging, demanding, crying for government officials to finalize the paperwork. Nothing was being done - just more and more "requirements" with no end in sight. When they complained to their AirBnb guy, he laughed and laughed at their naivete, and explained how things are done in Ukraine. Over the next couple of days they $20k bribing everyone from secretary to the judge. 48 hours later they were flying back with adopted kids. Since then they have traveled all by over Latin America, Africa, Asia and Russia and Ukraine again visiting and providing funding for orphanages and say Ukrane is worse than anywhere else. Only in ukrane an orphanage wont let you donate clothes and toys for kids without bribing employees first.

@randyearles1634 9 ай бұрын

every country has red tape but they should expedite it when someone is fighting for Ukraine.

@hybridarmyoffreeworld 9 ай бұрын

Moscow horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated in the Cold War. 1996 defeated by Chechnya 2022 defeated by Ukraine WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :- a) Hungary 1956 b) Czechoslovakia 1968 c) Moldova 1992 d) Georgia 2008

@jinkazama7491 9 ай бұрын

Anyone who knows a little bit of history knows half of what you just said was pure BS

@FVBmovies 9 ай бұрын

Most countries have differing laws on dual-citizenship, and in some countries citizens can't hold another citizenship from hostile countries for example. Another problem, what video is about, is Russia and Belarus changed laws on renouncing their citizens citizenship and any request must be done in person. Such steps carry significant risk, especially for fighting age males. Previously could be done via lawyers and notary, not anymore. Just slow down on blaming Ukraine, because bureaucracy, at least before the full scale war, had a blazing slow speed.

@pers477 9 ай бұрын

What is the problem to grant Ukrainian citizenship without renouncing Russian citizenship? Like Italy does for example, as well as Germany will soon allow to have 2 citizenships for everyone including Russians.

@FVBmovies 9 ай бұрын

@@pers477 It's complicated. Let me explain. In Latvia for example, Latvians can hold dual citizenship from EU, NATO and couple other associated countries, but not from Russia etc. In Germany this might be different, but first of all Germany isn't at war with Russia. Secondly, Constitution of Ukraine allows only one citizenship - Ukrainian. Amending constitution might also involve not only upper and lower chambers of Ukrainian gov, but might also involve Constitutional Court of Ukraine. Constitution is base law and hard to make changes to for obvious reasons.

@taralown7023 8 ай бұрын

Getting a citizenship to any country is basically impossible. But this scenario would be even more difficult, I would think and hope

@thusomaepa1852 9 ай бұрын

The Russians are fighting for a bankrupt,russophobic country but hey every individual is different there are still black people who celebrated apartheid and fought for the Afrikaners all we can do is pray for them

@ahmedalsharman 9 ай бұрын

Ukrainian & Russian are one people , same people one country .

@philliphall5198 9 ай бұрын

Not true

@asterixdogmatix1073 9 ай бұрын

The human story is always complicated and moving.

@ktng3176 9 ай бұрын

Humans are NEVER ROYAL to something. That's the fact

@user-kr2hj3we3v 9 ай бұрын

It`s civil war

@ninaotan7811 9 ай бұрын

Civil war it is a war between citizens of the same country. Since 1991 Ukraine and Russia are different countries that mutually recognised h other sovereignty.

@user-kr2hj3we3v 9 ай бұрын

you are not competent in thise topic. Russian are fighting with Russian. Main language Ukrainian force is russian, not ukrainian. The war happened only becouse ukrainians were misleaded by west countryes. Who want to save domination in the world. Ukrain is just tool and Russia is just step for reaching ultimate goal. For better understending thise topic you should learn deep history about . And the story current war didn`t start 2 yars ago. @@ninaotan7811

@YeenMage 9 ай бұрын

So this is how Putin's invasion alienated the ethnic Russians in many traditionally-ethnic-Russian places in Ukraine like Kherson and Kharkiv. It also shows that ethnicity is never totally clear between people, and it's also a good reason to stop discriminating based on ethnicity.

@sOnIcBo0mBoY 9 ай бұрын

Well yea, but then theres politics.. I can't un-see the election maps from before the war, they clearly show a political divide; along the lines of the current lines... This could have been dealt with in a democratic kind of way.. but the reality is Putin wanted war; nationalism, and the regime security which comes with that; its what dictators do.

@vidong1704 9 ай бұрын

Nothing about ethnicity here. All about citizenship.

@jeffasbestos7813 9 ай бұрын

“Traditionally ethnic-russian places” - According to who? What did you go and do a DNA test on the people living there?

@YeenMage 9 ай бұрын

@@jeffasbestos7813 lol Jes-Zeus, do you even know the difference between race and ethnicity? Race generally is based on the physical traits of people (thus DNA), while Ethnicity generally talks about people with a common culture, language, religion etc. (has nothing to do with DNA mostly, and it's more of self-identification in this part of the world). Odessa, Kherson, Kharkiv, Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk have the heaviest pro-Russian sentiments in Ukrainian because many identify as ethnic Russians - Odessa was in fact the "Pearl City of Russian Empress Catherine" when she built it partly to impose her imperial ambitions. This is exactly the reason why the people of Odessa removed the statue of Empress Catherine to distance themselves from Russian identity (also heavily related to ethnicity). The ethnic Russians there were basically disgusted with Putin's war and many stopped identifying as Russian (even though anywhere between 20%-36%-56%??? of Odessa are potentially Russian-ethnics per the 2001 census). Kharkiv and Kherson are now also transforming themselves into fully ethnic Ukrainian cities which is a good thing as long as anyone who wants to fight for Ukraine should be honored. I hope you get the point, smart boy.

@jeffasbestos7813 9 ай бұрын

@@YeenMage Nice essay bro, you have no idea what you are talking about. The people in Kharkiv, Odessa, Kherson- whatever all share the same culture with the rest of Ukraine and they all consider themselves Ukrainians, the only difference being is the language they may speak (which they speak with Ukrainian accents) and that is due to russian imperialism and suppression of the Ukrainian language. The people in the West of Ukraine still know how to speak russian because of this reason. “20-30-56???” Pick one number to pull out of your arse.

@bestimmtgut 9 ай бұрын

PLEASE HELP GALINA GET A UKRAINIAN CITIZENSHIP!

@freemusicforyou2011 9 ай бұрын

As a Russian citizen, i think those who died for Ukraine more than deserve the passport as those whose in real combat on or near front line now fighting for Ukraine.

@DEVILDOG3334 9 ай бұрын

No Ukraine need to fix this

@V.E.R.O. 9 ай бұрын

Why do they have to go surrender it? Just let them do it remotely.

@GREATVOVA 9 ай бұрын

russian government was always doing everything possible to make life of those, who do not agree with it's crimes, as hard as possible.

@akam1779 9 ай бұрын

"let them do it remotely" should Russia. Guess why it's not possible. For Ukraine it's also a controversial problem, theoretically they can allow people to keep the second citizenship, but - come on - not Russian. It would be super weird.

@khusirana7465 9 ай бұрын

God bless Ukraine 🇺🇦 🇺🇦🇺🇦❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏

@dkrawk8309 9 ай бұрын

You sick BOT is going to overheat with all your fake posting. God and the ukrianian nazim has nothing to do with each other

@dragonli7106 9 ай бұрын

Why don’t say god bless Palestinian

@chadbrad8100 9 ай бұрын

@@dragonli7106 because Palestine doesn't exist and this ain't that topic dim wit tbh Palestine doesn’t need to exist they are already several more powerful Islamic nations in the Middle East pretty sure the Palestinians can move in one of these nations and bring their Palestinian traditions there if they don’t feel safe in Israel. To be honest Israel is the safest plus pretty sure you can practice your Islamic traditions there and the only 2 of the democracies in the Middle East. The other democracy being Turkey. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jrSWZ5Okp8nae58.htmlsi=mflHwARzBaUsomju This is a good video to prove why the Israeli people ; have always existed whether they are either Jews or Muslims but no state of Palestine has existed. Jews and Muslims can coexist like that have for hundreds of years. I made sure this video was as unbiased as it can possibly be. People talk about Israel being genocidal to Muslims but Arab countries have done the same thing to Jew all over the Middle East and Africa kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7qnhMtol765iqM.html This video proves that Arabs and the Muslim World is guilty of ethnic cleansing more so than Israel. Don't get me wrong both so called fictional state of "Palestine" aka Hamas and Israel have committed atrocities but the Muslim World has committed worse crimes than Israel has done currently right now like the untold Holocaust in the Middle East

@mortenvikene228 9 ай бұрын

@@dragonli7106 he/she does not say that, cuz the news have told them not to :)

@finecon8391 9 ай бұрын

Russia has right to defend itself

@disappointeddinosaur4440 8 ай бұрын

💚 My prayers 🙏 go out to these 3 women & others like them in Ukraine 🇺🇦. ~~ 11/28/23~~

@NurturesWrath 9 ай бұрын

US should send more of their tax payers money

@niblet112 9 ай бұрын

It’s tricky america is 34.6 trillion in debt. Taxes have dropped by 11% whilst credit card debt has risen to 1.5 trillion.

@whoisme678 9 ай бұрын

This doesnt help ukraine. If the woman is helping the Ukrainian war effort, then she needs to be recognised for her efforts as Ukrainian, REGARDLESS. Especially if she or other Russians have put their lives on the line to fight for ukraine.. THIS..needs a serious looking into . давай, україно, зроби щось, щоб допомогти тим, хто допомагає. не всі росіяни можуть бути такими поганими, особливо якщо воюють, гинуть і підтримують український народ. Мати серце. присягни їх захищати україну, просто зроби щось.

@ktng3176 9 ай бұрын

Don't easily believe in anyone. We never know a LAMB will turn to become a TIGER later on. Did you notice that the PROTEST EVENTS that happened around the world recently - who are those ANGRY MOBS not just young women but elderly ones too.

@whoisme678 9 ай бұрын

@@ktng3176 Yup, the brainwashed can always be lead.

@nicolasiden4074 9 ай бұрын

Don't be that silly, among all those proucranian russians can be many agents and saboteurs. And of course to gain the trust they will show themselves as very proucranian. Even though if 95 % of those russians are honestly good people that 5 % of agents and saboteurs can still make a lot of damage. That is why it is all that hard to get the passport for russians in period of war. Не дякуй за інфу😉

@whoisme678 9 ай бұрын

@@nicolasiden4074 The ' silly ' is from not paying attention to the video and understanding WHAT THIS video is about. Russian woman fighting / supporting Ukraine. And it states ....she has a Ukrainian Husband.! That is why she SHOULD be granted Ukrainian citizenship. It DOES NOT say she's in Ukraine working for Russia.

@Jarod-te2bi 9 ай бұрын

You’d think Ukraine will give them passports for fighting on Ukraines behalf.

@TheTrueOnyxRose 9 ай бұрын

Shut up, Amazon! I’m trying to read the comments.

@Starmer_Crushed_The_Far_Right 9 ай бұрын

It's the Russian bots trying to clog up the comment section to drown out pro Ukrainian comments. Just report them.

@fastcharger3314 9 ай бұрын

I reported them all as spam and they’re gone. I had to report each of them. 😅

@beenine5557 9 ай бұрын

This is not actually from Amzn; it appears to be a test of a botnet that is abusing accounts from people in Turkey, some who clearly have connections to Russia. I'm guessing the GRU released some malicious KZfaq app in Turkish and are now testing how fast KZfaq responds to disinformation campaigns. Unfortunately, it is woefully slow if this is representative. I'm surprised KZfaq's own AI is not able to detect the high number of similar posts and zap them automatically. Oh well, I'm off to go report them so that hopefully KZfaq will train their systems to do better in the future.

@BUKKAKE2 9 ай бұрын

She’s a widow suffering for her Child!

@kirkha100 9 ай бұрын

Good reminder of why I don’t follow the BBC.

@koba0798 9 ай бұрын

so even russians who fight for ukr treated like trash

@amandadonaghey7540 9 ай бұрын

A terrible muddle - best wishes to them

@annapacyniak3940 9 ай бұрын

It looks like Ukrainian gov is dangling the carrot of a passport for people who figh for their country. They know the moment they have it they would leave for Europe. Being treated as a second class citizen for so long... So sad

@casslane3932 9 ай бұрын

i work in tourism i remember russian tourists if we asked where you were from they got very scared because i think many feel the world hates them.

@JonDoe-ln6nl 9 ай бұрын

They shouldn’t be scared - nobody will hurt them - they should be ashamed.

@lolawants2008 9 ай бұрын

Ukraine needs to change the laws. Or have a special route to be approved on a case by case basis. No one who is Ukrainian at heart & for whom returning to Russia would be dangerous should be turned away. Under no circumstances should she have to go to Russia to renounce her citizenship. Russia is never to be trusted.

@Amalineth 9 ай бұрын

imagine their level of intelligence when they want to become the citizens of this mafia state and fight for it 😂

@sergey.m. 9 ай бұрын

😹😹😹

@jorgerobles628 9 ай бұрын

I am not sure, and I may be incorrect, but this topic is one that Ukraine has to fix if it wants to be part of the EU. There are many Ukrainian laws and conditions they have to make amenable to the EU.

@romanroman1453 9 ай бұрын

I have relatives with Russian passport who lived in Ukraine for 20 years. They never wanted to give up Russian passport for two reasons. First, to keep Russian pension payments and , second, they never respected Ukrainian statehood. They loved Putin and we had a lot of arguments over their allegiance. Dear BBC, don’t try to identify another “victim” group. It’s not helpful.

@liamfinch4129 9 ай бұрын

Free Ukraine!

@particle4005 9 ай бұрын

Stop the damn war. ☝️☝️👽🔱👽🔱👽 ☝️☝️🔱👽🔱👽🔱

@placeswelive5388 9 ай бұрын

Who would have thought. That said, citizenship of Yemen is harder to get than that of Canada. Food for thought.

@Starmer_Crushed_The_Far_Right 9 ай бұрын

That's because NOBODY wants to live in Yeman.

@occamraiser 9 ай бұрын

Really? I wouldn't imagine that Yemen is exactly swamped with applicants - so they must just have a very high opinion of themselves. Look how hard it is to get American citizenship - and we KNOW how highly Americans regard themselves :)

@GwynBleys 9 ай бұрын

You must have meant Russian citizens rofl... And i guess you recognize annexed territories as Russia now sine Russia issued close to 6 mil passports to the locals already.

@beverlyhills7883 8 ай бұрын

Why should the weather be involved in a brutal fight between two equally corrupt countries?!

@frankkrahulik4265 9 ай бұрын

Come to America if you can

@niblet112 9 ай бұрын

Yes come to America it’s free just cross the border wheres 21 million have entered

@kingdomofgeorgia1751 9 ай бұрын

What's in America?

@niblet112 9 ай бұрын

@@kingdomofgeorgia1751 epst3ins client list

@jinkazama7491 9 ай бұрын

Outsiders are coming into America while local Americans are leaving America.

@alexmobil7463 7 ай бұрын

simply unthinkable what this bloody war is doing to ordinary people !

@issackmoha6636 9 ай бұрын

Yes propaganda machine

@borisnikator7060 9 ай бұрын

So they betrayed their Fatherland in order to be rejected by Ukraine. What a pity.

@GlowingPie 9 ай бұрын

Ukrainian passport system is fckd up.. I work for an airline company. We had Ukrainian refugee family who wanted to buy the tickets for the flight but they didn't have passports (I'm still wondering how they got into our country, I bet illegally). I was like "I'm really sorry but I can't sell you the tickets if you and your children don't have any documents". However, a mother said they can't even get passports cuz an Ukrainian embassy don't let them get passports since they are from Mariupol (this city is occupied by Russia rn). I asked the authorities but they rejected me to sell the tickets for them. I don't know what happened to them after that. I hope they're alright 😥

@miket8909 9 ай бұрын

Ukrainian passport is easy, just bring money

@oritafilms 9 ай бұрын

3million Ukrainians migrated to Russia after the war began. Tell us about it please, BBC

@faustinae3927 9 ай бұрын

Need to change the law. One pass port. Makes things difficult 🤷‍♀️❤️🌹🇺🇸

@xa-12musk8 9 ай бұрын

Hopefully Russia withdraws their forces soon.

@urbansenicar81 9 ай бұрын

(Deep, hushed voice. Gunshots in the background.) This. Is. A. Bizarre. Piece.

@blueguitar4419 26 күн бұрын

Ukraine has been acting chauvinistically towards it’s own ethnic Russians, what makes anyone think they treat Russian loyal to Ukraine any better.

@georgeosei269 9 ай бұрын

Stop this lies

@gazpachopolice7211 9 ай бұрын

Just another example of how identities such as ethnicity and nationality are complicated.

@HolgerJakobs 9 ай бұрын

She should be able to surrender her Russian citizenship without travelling to Russia. Why can't this be done at some Russian Embassy or consulate in a third country?

@Vbluevital 9 ай бұрын

Make special exceptions case by case. This isant right.

@dochics1053 9 ай бұрын

We have passports for sale...yup ..

@kaycey7361 9 ай бұрын

Its same as sudeten german problem in Czechoslovakia during 1930s.

@user-fb2tm7wf4d 9 ай бұрын

Its impossible

@LambofSuffering 9 ай бұрын

Before war there was 9 mil ukranians in Russia now its 12mil and rising as more and more ukranians chose to move to Russia, but they wont tell you that here. 😅 uncomfortable truth.

@felipe-vibor 9 ай бұрын

Nothing good left in Ukraine why would anyone want to be a citizen unless for purposes of traveling beyond Ukraine to western countries

@niblet112 9 ай бұрын

10 million left the country at the start of this conflict. They won’t come back

@gilllimon-tb9jl 9 ай бұрын

Freedom for Ukraine 🇺🇦 freedom for Russia 🇷🇺

@rosariodumangon4586 9 ай бұрын

Support Ukraine

@galvk 9 ай бұрын

One thousand of million = 0,1%

@ADAM-fy8ht 9 ай бұрын

the very same people supported Russia all along , the Ukrainian passports is now in demand because of the western countries free visa & living conditions.

@Anton_Danylchenko 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it is the big issue for mixed families. Such people with Russian passport are usually (but not always) pro-Ukrainian. I have acquaintances with such issues. Only to apply for citizenship or for permanent residence they need a paper from russia!!! that they do not have criminal records there. And the only way to get it is go to Russian embassy in Moldova. To prolong your international passport you should also go to Russian embassy in Moldova - but you literally should check web site of the embassy every day and wait when there are free hours in a month ahead. And then - only after the war - in some years such people will receive a paper instead of Ukrainian passport. This paper states that they should abandon Russian citizenship in 2 years. But to abandon Russian citizenship you should (surprise!!!) go to Russia. You can only imagine what will be the treatment of such people in Russia (either prison or prohibition to leave russia or in a best case simple refuse). But this means nothing for Ukrainian authorities - you have russian passport so you should go to russia and abandon russian citizenship... There is a simplified procedure for those who fight for Ukraine - they can simply declare that they plan to abandon russian citizenship. But for other people there is no such procedure. The only other way is to prove in court that the travel to russia is dangerous for you. Only few people won in court so far. There are also petitions to president to let people just declare they will abandon russian citizenship and to give them Ukrainian passport. For sure such people should be inspected by appropriate authorities to make sure they are not pro-russian or russian agents.

@ninaotan7811 9 ай бұрын

What makes Russians so special that Ukraine has to change its citizenship law for them?

@Anton_Danylchenko 9 ай бұрын

@@ninaotan7811 The fact that russia will not allow them to leave russian citizenship (or even can imprison them - russia will simply accuse them in something they did not do). Russia is a country that suppresses its citizens for being not loyal to russia. Every russian who lives in Ukraine is potentially considered as non loyal to russia. There are people with russian passport here who do not want to be associated with russia and want to get rid of russian passport forever. Many of them are not ethnic russians and have not been to russia for many years. Most of them have families and children here. So I am not writing here about those who flee russia after the war (I am against giving any permissions to such people unless they come here to fight against russia). I am writing about people who already live for years in Ukraine, have permanent residence and already associate themselves with Ukraine. There should be a way for them to receive Ukrainian citizenship without visiting russia. Some people now even have to live in Ukraine illegally, because they cannot prolong their residence during martial law or because russia refuses to prolong their international passport in embassy in order to force them to return to russia.

@zmax683 6 ай бұрын

Silly CNN.only sheeps believes your news😂😂

@felipe-vibor 9 ай бұрын

Fake news

@harddgril546 9 ай бұрын

Let Ukrainians be themselves, be their own culture..don't steal their land, don't kill their babies..

@StormyNatero-yd7sj 8 ай бұрын

If They were born in Ukraine they are Ukrainian.....not Russian. Jfyi.

@MoralScienceEducation 9 ай бұрын

Heroes who fight for their (adopted) country, in whatever honourable manner, should at least be given the opportunity to obtain dual citizenship in their country of choice.. The rules that forbid dual citizenship, arguably do so based on complexities due to military conscription duties of men across 2 countries, would no longer present s valid argument, for that is what these men and women precisely completed, as is. Here"s to a review of nationality and migration in world ridden by war, planetary destruction, and poverty. We can do better as humanity🙏

@joermnyc 9 ай бұрын

Not sure about Ukraine, but some countries do not allow dual citizenship.

@msblue1003 9 ай бұрын

It should be quite easy. You should only get citizenship after living legally in a country for a certain number of years , usually 4 or 5. In a state of war it is a crime to discriminate against non national residents, even those with passports of the country you're fighting. A resident permit could/should be granted to all new arrivals helping with the war with all the rights as the nationals. After 4or 5 years with a resident permit can apply for citizenship if they wish

@borisnikator7060 9 ай бұрын

Russia has no such problems. Go fight for Russia and get your passport.

@msblue1003 9 ай бұрын

@@borisnikator7060 You go and fight for Russia - if you survive I'll give you my passport

@borisnikator7060 9 ай бұрын

@@msblue1003 I don't need your passport, keep it to yourself. And who told you that I haven't fought for Russia? Maybe I have fought and that is why I know that in Russia people get their passports.

@honoriotanquintic6533 8 ай бұрын

And Blackrock owns both now.....

@michaelasamoah2390 9 ай бұрын

Not fighting for UK passports?my bad.

@Khasidon 9 ай бұрын

Saying they are "Russians" when they are Ukrainians who speak Russian is such demeaning and propaganda now on the BBC.

@beenine5557 9 ай бұрын

This not about the 7 million Ukrainians who are ethnically Russian. This is about the 170,000 people who live in Ukraine but have Russian citizenship. Many of them have wanted to become Ukrainian citizens, but Russia made it difficult for them by requiring them to travel to Russia to renounce their citizenship.

@Khasidon 9 ай бұрын

There are no "ethnically Russian" in Ukraine. There are some Ukrainians who speak Russian. @@beenine5557

@johnhopkins6260 9 ай бұрын

Untold Russians have "re-purposed" Ukrainian homes in Crimea to "their" vacation homes... until stuff started blowing up all over the place. Goering, et al. had also built a considerable collection of priceless items. (Swiss banks still remain silent about "special" clients)