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I would like to see the roles reversed and the musa on attack and Drak on defense with the same builds.. what can those eva builds do dmg wise to the dr builds..

Can we see a video of the optimal 1300 Eva build damaging a geared squishy DR class, shield dr class, and Eva class? I’d like to see how much damage the Eva builds do with the new dr/eva changes.

This is the second video made of this crap, evasion is dead because the amount of AP/damage you lose for going high evasion was hard enough to kill tanky classes before hand, now with DR stronger then ever and new DP brackets coming. Its impossible for that musa to kill you, so sure may be able to survive a bit more but have 0 kill potential, hence evasion is dead cuz the cost to run evasion is to much and cant compete with high DR

Want to see the reverse why is noone showing it?! Tbh i want to see that 1401 Eva Musa doing dmg on the Drak build. The whole comparisons are worthless if you never do reverse testing showcase IMO!

Great video nice, one thing missing DMG dealt by Musa on each build to Dr drakania just curious

They can simply make evasion builds a bit better by adding some AP to evasion accs other then Sicils every accs with evasion on it has 0 ap, this is why evasion is dusted right now, to have high evasion you must sacrifice a ton of ap/damage to achieve 1300+ evasion. They could add like 10ap to a Pen Centaurts and 5 ap to Ethereals and 3 ap to Ocean Rings... DP an Accuracy accs all have some AP why not evasion, this would allow evasion to be able to compete against high DR players. Doing this would also add alot of build diversity back into the game

You are a really knowledged person that people look up to. Yet I don't understand how the test got skewed in this way? If you want to test evasion, you do it without testing *special evasion rate* In fact, I believe generaly right now the best build is actually *DR + Special Evasion Rate* . People can get with perfume of charm and elixir/garmoth/lightstone combo around *47%-50% Evasion rate* That makes a *gigantic difference on the Calculations made by you* or whether you hit multipliers on dmg or not. Therefore, This is **not evasion** Testing. You should rather test without it (without special evasion rate or base value). Or if you want to put an actual fair conclusion you should test *vs same guy DR + Special evasion 47%-50% rate as well*. Because clearly if the Musa was DR with Special Evasion Rate of 47-50% would have been more tankier (at least from my testing) than with Evasion + Special Evasion Rate you seek to show there. *I'd really love a follow video of yours disproving this* . Not to mention you are testing Evasion, yet you are offuscating your test by adding a % chance variable (special evasion rate) that is not affected by any evasion value whatsoever? So fundamentally I think the test is somewhat flawed and doesn't prove evasion is "alive "or not. Thought I do agree as you clearly state that when the guy 8:18 had so much evasion you needed multiple accuracy accessories to make sure to the damage the guy received was not lowered. Therefore, Evasion forces you to have accuracy only **when is very high** while on the mid range due to accuracy buff on skill (19-25%) and skill add on (+accu -eva) mid range (1100-1350) I don't think is remotely worth to have evasion. My TLDR is only DR evasion people (shai) or no dmg builds (Striker,mystic, musa DR EVASION) can work given not only you have Moderately High DR but also extremely High Evasion + *special evasion rate 47-50%*

I don't want to shit talk your vid and I respect the good work that you do, but there's 2 very obvious things that stand out. 1) you're not supposed to use macalods and rbf vipers vs evasion target but rather hooms + jin vipers (ur basically missing 60 accuracy there), Then you also pop courage while insight would give you more damage against him probably (not sure). If you just swap these, you will delete his 1235 eva build very easily w/o having many accuracy accs. And then 2nd) the guy is using charm + dp stone + armor draught. There's no way he can kill you with his 1300 eva gear + defensive crystals. Truth is nobody will run 1300 evasion because it CANT KILL ANYONE anymore, but you can still die from people who stack enough accuracy. And that's where the issue is at. It's not that high evasion isnt tanky. It's the fact that you cant build high evasion anymore cus you have no slot to put a centaur or defensive crystals / artifacts if you want to be able to kill anyone running DR.

thing is you evasion haters never understand is "evasion never give someone immortality except full dp evasion builds" hybrid evasions could reach max 1400ish eva with tons of ap and accuracy sacrifice and has no freedom on crystal setup and u couldn't go over 500 dr with hybrid eva before patch, but people kept crying about it so they had mental disability to think what their opponent's gear and what they should swap to, 1400 evasion never been immortal against to 1100 accuracy, even if your class had good evasion shred skills 1050 was more than enough. immortal builds are dead? oh rly, tell it to 2 cadry zerkers, valks, succ warriors and novas. do tests on musa with dr gear with only 1 cadry, and see what's the difference in terms of defense, do the same combos and check his hp bar and check the difference vs evasion, difference almost zero. so why i have to sacrifice sh1t tons of damage for to get same tankiness that dr have with crystal freedom and nouver option and occupy only 1 accessory slot (cadry) EVA: 297 ap with sicil+cent eva. 1338 eva - 619 pvp ap (with pen debo rings and offin mainhand) - DR: 316 ap with only 1 cadry and 2 narcs - 710 dr 676 pvp ap, even with defensive crystal setup (with offin mainhand) 4 ap cap lose to get same tankiness, yep seems like eva is alive.. sigh now you are telling evasion in good place, evasion WAS in good place before patch so that had meaning in build diversity, if your class had good evasion passive and self buffs had meaning to go evasion, and its counter accessories were already cheap due to required pve accuracy nerf, dawn earring was 80b before patch, ominous was 60b before patch, lunar was 30 35b before patch. it was cheap to build evasion and it was cheap to build accuracy. DR and Eva never ment to same in terms of defense, if you want to make it same give same crystal freedom to evasion as dr, give ap offhand option like nouver, bs right? like people thought "dr need to be same as eva" sh1t. troll builds are dead? oh tell that to strikers with eva glove, dr shoe, full ap accessory and nouver. now, you evasion haters' argumeent that always said "evasion so cheap 20b centaur build can stay alive against to my hardcap build" now 2 cadry zerks, valks, novas and warriors gonna ignore your 1.5t worth 5 debos. yeah, evasion is dead because there is no meaning anymore to run evasion even in classes have evasion buffs and passives, dr works better both offensive and defensive sides. and in next video i hope you gonna say "DR is big problem, oh 2 cadry ignores my hardcap build" and test eva's and dr's damage in hybrid builds instead of testing DR stack with kabuas and no khalk perfume and trying to show "oh look how squishy dr still is" TLDR; if evasion lowers his ap to 293 and hits like wet noodle against to dr but dr can maintain 316 ap with 1 cadry and get same tankiness you can't call evasion is alive, next time do proper tests, not 1 sided.

the question is can a built evasion kill a t 600+ dr. a eva form 12k to 13k is like what 630 total ap mayb alil more if geared af. 282 -301ap cant dmg a dr plus you got no hmg dmg fighting a DR is gonna like poking a Tank with a stick. i my self is eva built but i swap to dr for human dmg in order to do dmg to . i was 330 ap with eva built no human dmg cant do no dmg

Could you test the summon skills? like awk musa , succ nova, succ hash , awk woosa etc... some summon skill dealt much damage

1. What was even the measurement of those tests? From what I've seen the only real conclusion you can make is "evasion vs accuracy does change the damage". Maybe plot some graph and make assumption on what is the function, so it's a good starting point, but doesn't answer the main question. 2. Where is the DR control group? If we are talking about evasion being dead, we mean that in comparison to DR. There's nothing here to compare to, we can only see that evasion "works" but not "how well", and how does it compare to the counterpart.

Interesting. I wonder how are we gonna have to build damage wise now, because before being AP monkey was the best against both eva and dr builds (not troll builds), now you need some accuracy against eva classes, but at the same time you need to keep high AP against dr classes. I wonder what will the sweet spot be for max efficiency on large scale now.

Спасибо за тесты!

Thank you very much for this video and the tests you made. You answered all of my questions regarding Evasion builds. I really appreciate your effort on analyzing everything on this.

So it's unfair to want to run evasion and still have a chance at killing people, but it's "Balanced" when you can go full AP and still tank better than 1200+ evasion...? Out of your mind....

Thank you so much this helped me from a better perspective of how evasion works and i believe pa chosing to give it diminishing returns at higher lvls and reasonable returns at lower is the right move, destiny also had to do the same thing with its dmg reduction stat at one point. I do have one worry though, it is sacrificing ap for evasion resulting in a slower grind speed. Is it viable to make an evasion build by swapping to eva peripherals like crystals, lightstones and artifacts so i can keep my ap accessories which give sheet ap

Now make the same video for DR, which is the actual reason why people are calling Evasion dead. It's not bad, but DR does it better AND gets the damage. The roles have reversed.

how about regular evasion class build in pve?

they removed the "miss" text from game? How can I know if I'm missing some accuracy on a grindspot then? Before If I saw misses I just added some accuracy crystals

I will Interpret those not showing their builds: Only 2 options: "I am overpowered and don't want nerfed." "I only like pvp when I have an advantage over others." Fin. 😂

If PA is smart the next step is do adjust all classes pvp dmg reduction percentage, some classes no matter what skills they use especially now running full ap don’t do dmg cuz of their pvp dmg reduc while other classes cough drak with 2 pen cadrys can kill anyone even with the person running high DR. By adjusting pvp dmg reduc on all classes skills it will even the playing field it’s not gonna be perfect because we do have classes with a million s, classes with insane movement etc.

Let be honest PVP is never be balanced ,With a new weapon release sovereign Main + Aw ,the extra dr amount they give us is gonna be almost rip, 1 hit again and dead..

Yes, evasion is dead cuz before with 305 (700 pvp) atk and 1300 ev i can kill. Now i cant.

"immortal builds dead" - except that zerker must be literally afk for a minute so that 10 people can overdps his infinite potion regen

What about Dr build rigth now?

All well and good having a musa on 1355 evasion but what does it achieve nothing? It will hit like a wet noodle

I think I was the only person that expected evasion to stack with DR making the hybrid tankier, seems people were in the impression that your eva or DR, classes that were eva mainly are now stronger because the DR buffs and gear buffs, say hashashin is now a tank

Awk wizard build Dr or Eva, I don't know

IM confused. What ap and human dmg is he counting to get to that ap? Cuz last i check you only add the ap+human dmg and get ur answer. But it seems like he's adding something else, a third number to get 900+ pvp ap lol

🎉 GOOD Explanation 😊 So based on your example It seems that 1200+ is a good goal for the Accuracy route. For what I saw, Evasion is good to a point but you need to be willing to sacrifice AP. I am not. So I believe based on these examples that we should be mindful of the accessories we buy for our class. 🥸😎🤓🧐

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Evasion is balanced now and its very good job from PA, atleast once they did something good BUT dr...needs to be nerfed. That shit with zerk and valk is idiotic. Also, most of classes deal very low dmg and some 0dmg. They need to fix that. Zerk cannot be tanky and still do good dmg, same goes to valk, while you got class like archer who suppose to kill, hits like tuvala gear.

100% agreed, evasion is in a good spot now. DR needs to be toned back now lol. Because immortal builds 1000% work for DR now. It's just swapped.

thanks for your hard work. good work :)

If Evasion works just like DR then why not get rid of bloat and complications by just having DR only? I think Dev is wasting their time. Do one or the other. We already of convoluted hidden stats in everything. I think time would have better been spent on streamlining Gear Stats so we don't have any hidden numbers. IMO anyways.

Do it on Ninja

Thanks from brazil.

Would be funny to see a full dp dr meme build like cadry ring , manos ruby, centaurus belt and go pvp XD

Bro, I like your videos very much, your videos help me a lot. Could you please share the combo of this video? Again, thank you！ 兄弟，我很喜歡你的視頻，你的視頻對我有很大的幫助。請問可以分享一下這次視頻的連招嗎？再一次感謝！

Never heard of a game having high evasion but your opponent will never miss 😆. Truth is , evasion is not good as it used to be and it was already weak in pve but now its weak in pvp too. I dont know why people would want to go evasion when you will struggle against class with high DR. But class with high DR can have some accuracy crystal or accessories and you pretty much lose. Yea you have to be at 1250 to 1350 eva but why when you can go DR and DMG which is already better in pve and with the change to eva , Hvaing DR is just a bettet route. Now youre tanky in pve and pvp.

should have comparison to dr build

this video is on point. those people who say eva is dead just want to be immortal and still be able to kill everyone with 1 combo despite sacrificing a lot of ap to stack eva and dr. they are crying right now because they realized they can no longer exploit evasion like that. PA made a really good balancing right there. well deserved !

I mean, build customization has always been trash in BDO. Either you build more tanky, or more dps, or more tanky but in a way that's different only on paper. Complete joke.

it seem Accuracy still effective in evasion build the question is what is the Damage on DR build with Accuracy Build,,, i wish Quendta make a video HOW TO KILL DR BUILD?? hahaha

En optimali 5 debo ve 3 isabet takısı elde tutmak olduğunu düşünüyorum. Zaten isabet takıları artık hem çok ucuz hem de her biri çok iyi şekilde bufflandı.

Great and nice video,,,, next video Pls HOW TANKENIES DR is in new updates

266-305 AP? low !! this 0 dmg

Thank you for this video, now gearlets will have an idea how to counter eva , and not just complaining and complaining to PA about evasion

What about eva vs dr in pve? 👀

11:39 maybe I am not geared enough to understand why they gatekeep their builds but idk man why tho ? xd

can u make new pvp guide for awake drak after the changes?

Evasion dead? No. Console and Lifeskills absolutely are dead.

good job

i'd have like to see the musa's damage on these same gear situations x).

First!

DR is best, you take less damage and deal more damage, evasion builds have no damage

why musa ?

Nerf fucking imortal tanks

As always, solid work

Eva works better now thing they need do is add new acc to make eva easyer get less sacrifice

bdo is dead , imagine they had to give out pen bs , happily waiting for chrono odyssey

11:14

drak is dead. lol

1600 eva ne gambling nabion baba senn ölümsüz sivrisinek

Eva high now, they also got high Dr on top of it.. still make them unkillable.. Dr high now, but do they equip with high Eva too! the answer is no, you still can solo Dr if you have High ap,, you can solo eva with dr come along? the answer is wait for FG weapon. seem accuracy added in Turo Dawn Omi still not enough to take half of eva build hp.

evasion seems fine, but dr is just insanly op right now

love the content more more

Nerf Ranger! ... oh wait, it's already dead.

terrible tests. You have 0 understanding of bdo pvp :c

Quick Answer: No

Evasion is dead cause DR is so high actually and evasion builds damage is too low, meanwhile, DR builds have EVERYTHING to kill & survive, so people prefers to use DR in their eva class with better results in offense/defense than eva build. Permanent 10% damage for DR like evasion, could be better balance or something like that (now exists DR classes inmortals and with high damage like zerkers, warriors, novas, valky...).

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