be quiet! Dark Rock 4 Review

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A "High-End" 160mm CPU cooler from be quiet! But not all that glitters is gold. That doesn't work so well with a black painted cooler... Okay, it's got its good parts, but it also has its problems. And at this price point, I don't want to come across more basic issues like the ones this cooler presents.
Time Stamps:
00:00 - Start
03:13 - Unboxing
04:50 - Overview
10:19 - Installation
14:15 - Fan Clip Design Rant (Ends 20:07)
22:58 - Sound/Noise Testing
29:23 - B-roll
31:11 - Thermal Paste Application & Demounting Check
32:29 - Thermal Testing Results
35:45 - Conclusion (Final Thoughts)
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Components used:
Case - Thermaltake Core P3
CPU - Intel i7-6700K
Motherboard - Asus Z170 Pro Gaming (ATX)
PSU - be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 (750W)
GPU - EVGA GTX 1070 FTW
RAM - 2x 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4, 2x 4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4
Music Credits:
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@TotoGeenen 5 жыл бұрын

Time Stamps: 03:13 - Unboxing 04:50 - Overview 10:19 - Installation 14:15 - Fan Clip Design Rant (Ends 20:07) 22:58 - Sound/Noise Testing 29:23 - B-roll 31:11 - Thermal Paste Application & Demounting Check 32:29 - Thermal Testing Results 35:45 - Conclusion (Final Thoughts

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

I'm the worst :P

@af252 5 жыл бұрын

Wow the amount of effort. I don’t need a new cpu cooler but if I was considering this one I would certainly be glad for a video like this.

@goligogo923 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah he should keep going for sure. He really puts in the time and details.

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I need to work on the negative criticism parts of the videos among a few other points, but we're getting there :). Thanks for checking this one out, and thanks for the continued support. Much appreciated!

@2sohx 2 жыл бұрын

I have watched a lot of install/review videos of this product and THIS is the most detailed and comprehensive coverage of both the install and review of the product. Definitely worth 40 minutes of my time here mate!

@Davis38 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! You helped me choose the right cooler. I can't believe this has so little views. You deserve more!

@tinkisa 4 жыл бұрын

This review made me buy this cooler. It is amazing how many crappy videos i had to watch until i came across this one . So much details. I saw you had problems with removing the fan, i had to remove it 3 times for various reasons and it is not difficult as you say . You don't need to pull the back holders with the wire just simply pull out the holder from the fan. You deserve more subs and more views on this video. Cheers

@Kielyoutube 5 жыл бұрын

I think this video covers everything but the smell. HOW DOES IT SMELL?!?!

@Jester123ish 5 жыл бұрын

Cool.

@S1mpski 4 жыл бұрын

like a rock

@GBY13 4 жыл бұрын

@@S1mpski Rock salt

@impure01 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I'm impressed how quiet this ran. Very detailed video. Thanks!

@mangaas 4 жыл бұрын

This is the EXACT level of detail people need in these videos. So many of these PC tech KZfaqrs assume your average Joe doing their first or second build will know all these details. Thank you and subbed!!!

@kantermush 4 жыл бұрын

When you listen to this with headphones, and you hear your PC and not Dark Rock 4 in the video, you have to buy it... that is my case

@johnnoswithy6316 3 жыл бұрын

Bwahah same boat dude

@Kai-ve8ic 3 жыл бұрын

Is it quiet . Like can you hear it at all

@ariouz6812 4 жыл бұрын

60fps, 1440p, High quality mic, proper B-roll, good editing, topic item in different shots, good lighting, You deserve more subs and viewers. Subbed.

@ajinkyap7102 3 жыл бұрын

Very neatly and completely described You have taken a lot of effort ... great job!! Subscribed!

@yasarkurtoglu433 Жыл бұрын

Super Review, im not a person who writes under videos, but your Review about this Product tells everything so good, shows everything so good, And your English is very clean so i (I'm Turkish) can understand very clear. wish you the best ! thank you.

@vongodric 3 жыл бұрын

Just ordered this cooler - thanks for the tips, will install memory first!

@Albengai 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the noise comparison! I wanted that :) Like!!

@samdvorchin780 4 жыл бұрын

16:00 the easiest way to remove the fan is to push the bracket's ends from the small holes in the fan. Disattach the bracket from the fan first, then it will pop off the tower

@zeldamax4741 3 жыл бұрын

The moment I watched this scene I couldn’t help but think to myself: wow, what on earth is he thinking?! It‘s so blatantly obvious that it‘s not a fault of be quiet what so ever but instead it‘s just him not realizing how easy it could have been to get these clips off of the cooler/fan. It‘s particularly weird that this happened to him because the rest of the review is so detailed and well done but ok... Sometimes the solution is just too easy.

@SteonCZ 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent review. Thank you very much. I choose this fan for my upcoming pc build.

@Qwisp1z 4 жыл бұрын

Great video you were non biased and truthful, earned a sub from me.

@maciejdutkiewicz3341 3 жыл бұрын

Finally supreme video showing details of Dark Rock 4 radiator installation.

@adamosstavrinou8560 5 жыл бұрын

Hello, First of all very well explained and in depth video. I have some questions though. I have the same motherboard but I have the Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4 3000 MHz 8GB x 2. Will this be an issue? Will the fan block the slot of rams? Also I did not understand the graph and I would like a bit of explanation if the temps getting in the benchmarks is low or not. I understand that it is between 10-20 degrees on load which for sure false. Finally, I currently have the Corsair H100i Hydro Cooling and i7 7700k. The issue here is that my CPU is getting hot under load and on idle. So I would like to know your opinion if it is worth to swap to this Air Cooling Tower. Thank you in advance

@ArchitectLore 5 жыл бұрын

I subbed. Great info! Thanks slot keep up the great work

@vintageaudio135 3 жыл бұрын

You doing a good job, this is a good review, how you test sound of the cooler i like it.

@AlexDubois 5 жыл бұрын

To remove the fan (nocturnal use a very similar set-up) I usually remove from the fan side (the end bits), and when I place, I put the bar and they hook the fan... no scratching.

@reedwarbler 4 жыл бұрын

What a thoroughly decent and honest review.kudos to you sir

@christernordlander1354 5 жыл бұрын

Great review, thanks! So, this cooler obstructs only the first ram slot on an ATX card, right? Number two looks fine. How is it with micro-ATX cards, the same?

@mando9540 4 жыл бұрын

I also have the crucial ballistix ram will it fit on a m-atx motherboard, like in the video?

@mibo747 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for PERFECT presentation!

@Akapibara 3 жыл бұрын

hellooo, can i mount 2x140mm custom fans like LL140 instead of this be quiet's one 135mm?

@suzon8769 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, your video helped me a lot ! I was so lost as it's the first time I'm building my computer xD

@Conzed92 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, you earned a subscription! I had been considering buying this cooler for my new built, your video pushed my over the edge, I will be getting it. Good luck with your channel!

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed the video and went for it. It's good to know that you considered the pros and cons I found and made the right decision for you. There are too many people that listen to criticism and write the product off entirely, or just get mad. I hope your upcoming build goes well, and thanks for checking this one out!

@pushingfilm 4 жыл бұрын

Best video on this cooler yet 👌

@robert4you 5 жыл бұрын

Little over 3,000 subs??? You should have 3,000,000... Great job!

@juhatemonen2165 4 жыл бұрын

Hello! I've been searching for a while now, and I can't seem to find any answers for my question; be quiet! Dark Rock 4 cooler, but with an extra Silent Wings 3 120mm PWM fan to create push/pull config. How much would it affect its performance and is it a solid install? No rattling afterwards etc.. Cooler specs clearly tell that it's possible and there're even extra clips included for the second fan in the package.

@DaroxxFR 5 жыл бұрын

Very good video, I'm now tatally convinced to buy this CPU cooler :)

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much, I'm glad you found it so useful. Thanks for checking this one out, and best of luck with your upcoming build!

@DaroxxFR 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you :D

@joaquinbaquie3319 5 жыл бұрын

please make a video on coolermaster v8 gts or Gigabyte atc 700.. . Both of them looks damn good!! .

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

I've got them logged down on the list. Thanks for the suggestion, hopefully I'll be able to cover them at some point in the future, but I can imagine by this point you know how long it takes to get anything done on the channel haha.

@Obiter3 5 жыл бұрын

Can it be mounted in the reverse Direction, so that the air flow is toward the back instead of the front?

@SevenMM1985 3 жыл бұрын

very in-depth, respect

@ferchohardcore 3 жыл бұрын

and than... the review turns to an asmr :D hohoh, excellent video! very helpful!

@PetarVukmanovic 3 жыл бұрын

This kind of review beats the top reviewers that I follow... I'd even be bold enough to quote Mandalorian... "This is the way". You've earned my sub.

@LynxEng 4 жыл бұрын

wow, nice comprehensive review,. Thanks

@jacklambert3265 4 жыл бұрын

maybe the best review I´ve ever seen on YT.

@agauerm 4 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to shift the cooler by 90 degrees ? I say this because I wanna install it on a case that sucks the air from the bottom and the air exits at the top, so I need the dark pro fan to be facing up, to push the air upwards.

@salmansengul 3 жыл бұрын

So if I want to add/remove RAM Sticks, I will have to remove the outer Fan? That looks kinda tedious! 😔

@radoslew 3 жыл бұрын

..and remember how hard its just to remove this not-so-little mfckr from the radiator. Why they didn't make any holders on those fan clips?! Rly small brain time here... That is why i went Scythe Mugen rev B instead of Dark Rock 4. It was cheaper, nicer (black RGB version) and better designed. In temps they are rly close to each other. In my opinion there are much more interesting coolers on the market than those from BQ! ;) Take care!

@xSleeper. 4 жыл бұрын

i cant find the mounting bridge.... i want to change the CPU but cant find the bridge? should i remove the backplate?

@robertbielenis6060 2 жыл бұрын

hmm how if i mount it with other side, and mount cooler to take air from radiator against throw air? hmmm, coz i have the problem with first slot ram and my ram is too big.

@brm901 Жыл бұрын

Hi great video ! can you plz tell what are the dimensions of the ripjaws ram's , i have the night hawk ram's and they are too bulky , wanna buy the dark rock 4 but i'm not sure it would fit with them

@AW-wy3xv 5 жыл бұрын

good performance, first pcie slot clearance, ram clearance, top fan / top mounted psu fan clearance, good looks. this thing got it all.

@annagulaev 5 жыл бұрын

Pull the clips out of the holes in the fan, not off the fins, by pulling from the front rather than pushing from the back. Works for Scythe coolers, anyway. It might not work on that cooler depending on how it's clipped through the hole.

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I had someone else suggest that, I did try it in the video but it took so much force to do I thought there was no way that was the intended way (but it turns out it was). I tried pulling out from the fan after the video and in the Livestream yesterday, and while it works if you use enough force, it's the force required that concerns me (adding more force to the equation only means that it something does go wrong, it'll be worse than if less force was involved). They still remain (at least to me) to be the most counter intuitive and carelessly designed fan clips on the CPU cooler market. I see what they were trying to do, but the end product doesn't function quite as I imagine they would have liked it to have. Perhaps future revisions won't require as much force, or have some extra tolerance to prevent issues. I look forward to finding out.

@confusedaf242 5 жыл бұрын

Seeing as there are 2 "spare" clips in the kit I'm going to be modifying 1 of them to make this removal technique viable, even if it's not intended to be, when mine arrives. Excellent video BTW, really nice detail.

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

It may even be worth getting some thin and pliable steel rod and creating your own with a pair of piers (could be fun, and you could choose the finish of the clips to something more preferred). You might want to maintain the integrity of the steel clips included if you want to sell it on in a couple of years time. Thanks for checking this one out, and I hope the fan clips turn out well for you :)

@soraactualize5464 2 жыл бұрын

sigh im installing a dark rock pro 4 on my board before i install the board in my case. the brackets keep popping out of my msi pro z690-a ddr 4 board and the radiator w/e from the cooler keeps pushing on my ram and i can't slide in the middle fan

@stephanepv 5 жыл бұрын

Hey how heavy is the cooler do you think it could potentionally damage the motherboard ? Also will 4 sticks on gskill trident zRGB fit? thank you for the video

@milanklco 3 жыл бұрын

4sticks most probably wont in mine case wont sure :) but its best cooler. 32gb (2x16gb) 3733mhz cl16 is enough 2 sticks :) RGB ones wont fit for sure 4pcs . 2 will

@MK-vl7bt 4 жыл бұрын

Great review!

@FaBBard 4 жыл бұрын

I have the same Gskill ram modules and the same cooler (DR4). Is it possible to put 4 red Gskill Ripjaws with this cooler? Do I have to move the front fan? IS it possible?

@Simon-xs5oz 5 жыл бұрын

If I was a teacher I'd give a 17/10 or and letter earlier than A

@giessse 4 жыл бұрын

First of all congrats for the video, then I need some hep if you can. I'd like to install this cooler for my ryzen 9 3900x on an msi x570 pro a mobo, I'd like tu use the new g.skill trident z neo ram, but i'm not sure they can fit with this cooler. I noticed that you put the ripjaws one, which are 4 mm shorter. Do you think it's possible to use the trident z or do I have to buy lpx rams? Thank you.

@walterurbina813 2 жыл бұрын

In the end, what model of RAM did you buy? According to the official page of the cooler (www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/1376) it has 23.15mm for the first RAM slot. The G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series (gskill.com/product/165/184/1536110676/F4-3200C16D-16GVKB-Overview) says they are 42mm module height

@tHaH4x0r 2 жыл бұрын

The paint they have used is not regular paint, but ceramic filled paint and thus does not impede heat transfer (significantly).

@TheSickness 5 жыл бұрын

Very nice vid yet again. Really good looking cooler. That b-Roll slow down effect was cool, reminded my of spinner wheels, the way it looked like the logo was spinning differently than the blades appeared to. I get the -ranty- informational portion, nice that you showed them how to get around it in the future, actually carrying the fin design from the back over to the sides as well would make it look even better at the same time, has a nice stealth appeal to it. I know you like to point out the issues, but...hmm how should I put this...you ride it like a horse in the Kentucky Derby 😜 I think it’s enough to bring it up once, maybe twice to further emphasize something. Please, just don’t kill the horse 😂 Those first 20 seconds had a nice and dark mood to it, liked that. Would make a good preview bit to post on BookFace Can’t wait for your take on the Level 20 vt, that’s going to be a great vid and looking forward to see that thing water cooled, ohh boy ohh boy...👏

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

This is getting bad, I just don't have time to reply to anyone for half of the week :P when I start I go on for ages so I just tend not respond when things are a bit busy. The b-roll effect was actually just a series of still images that were taken with a continuous shutter setting. It was taken in the same place that the footage was recorded so I had to be careful not to move the stand :P. You can call it ranty haha. I know, it was pretty unstructured and all over the place. I'll try and keep it all concise in the future to maintain a good pace - Good points. I still need to work out those small video clip ideas, maybe it's something to chat about a bit in the livestream on Sunday. I can't wait for the Level 20 review either, I need case reviews back! Coolers are great, but variety is the spice of life!

@ja-rek8846 2 жыл бұрын

Best cpu cooler review i saw.

@75ur15 4 жыл бұрын

NH-d14 and NH-d15 both have easy remove clips...that said I want a color match without doubling the cost

@PLPlolol1 4 жыл бұрын

i got a dark rock pro 3 and for some reason that cooler actually has the latches to remove the fans easily i dont understand why be quiet changed this one vs the 4

@bord5581 4 жыл бұрын

probably for performance.

@PLPlolol1 4 жыл бұрын

@@bord5581 cant tell if serious or not

@Pabula 5 жыл бұрын

Love the videos, so well presented. Only comment is one personal, for me height, fan amount, rpms, cfm, etc, are meaningless, at the end adding a cooler/fan has two outcomes, in this case, we are cooling a CPU at the expense of noise, so for me, the best way i would test CPU coolers, is a graph between TEMP/DB, the only downside is trying to measure below 30db, as most ambients have a higher noise floor.

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much. I see what you mean, I would ideally like to test with a sound dampened room and get some really precise figures. But like you say, measuring very low sound levels is difficult, and at least where I record, the chance of a dog barking, or a car engine starting outside would make trying to achieve a precise result would cause more stress than accurate results. I suppose adding to the TEMP/dB graph could involve an RPM tag for the results on a line graph. Not necessary, but potentially nice to know (especially for those setting up a specific fan curve). I'd love to do that, perhaps that's something I can achieve in the future (not likely, but who knows). Thanks for adding your thoughts, it's all useful for me to get a good idea of what people want, and I can try and tailor future videos to suit. Hope you enjoy many more videos you stumble across on my channel, and thanks for checking this one out.

@chrisoneal3311 4 жыл бұрын

That's quiet AF... perfect for music production. Buying. Thanks for the review

@ReubenAStern 2 жыл бұрын

Had I been making a fancy case with a glass side I wouldn't get this. But given it's going to be hidden behind soundproofed steel panels it seems right for the job. I've had loads of assembly jobs working with REALLY dodgy parts so I'm not phased by things that are difficult to assemble. Thanks for your video.

@PaulSebastianM 4 жыл бұрын

Best tool-less way I found to remove these fan clips is to slide the fan towards the clip you want to remove, to give it more offset to pull the clips, keep the fan as close to one side as possible and then pull on the clips up, from the corners, the corners where it meets the fan, not the fins. It will generally unhook much easier because now there's less tension on the clip on the side you're pulling.

@AVTechy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the walk-through there. I'd pin it but it would dislodge the timestamp comment. Thanks for checking out some of my videos, hope they helped :)

@PaulSebastianM 4 жыл бұрын

@@AVTechy One thing I realised from watching a few videos in a row after I found your channel, was that you're more or less like me. Very observant and nit-picky about good design. It exasperates me sometimes how some manufacturers fail to see obvious flaws in their designs that could be rectified cheaply. Take the fan clips here for example. There are literally dozens of design for these clips. Couldn't they have tested a few and chosen the better one? They would have hardly spent any money in R&D on this. Maybe 50 cents up to a dollar, maybe? :-/

@DRIFTA999 3 жыл бұрын

wait you guys dont eat the silica gel ?

@Tarsarian 2 жыл бұрын

What makes the clips so hard to put on? You have to put the clips on after you bolt down the Cooler. Now you have no room to work and have to move around the case and ram to install clips. I used a flat head screw driver to install the clips. It was the only way because I had no room. After install the cooler runs really good with temps and noise.

@eduard0955 4 жыл бұрын

I need some help, hope you respond... I have a setup with an RTX 2060 super, I7 9700K and I’m using the dark rock 4 cooler, when I’m not playing any games (just on the browser or regular stuff) the temps are around 45-50 C which I think is good, but when I’m playing some games, for example warzone, forza 4 and other games my cpu runs 75-85 C and I don’t think its normal is it? Please help I’m a little confused bc I’ve been doing some research and everybody says that processor with that cooler should be having lower temps than mine... I already reinstalled the thermal and still the same:(

@redzeppelin6659 4 жыл бұрын

It's pretty hot I think. I have the same cooler and my temperatures are ~35C when I'm not playing and ~50-55C while gaming(Gears 5, Forza horizon 4). Your case might be a reason.

@CP-fm7zy 5 жыл бұрын

Re: RAM clearance Is it possible to flip the top plate around (I've seen it's installed with 4 screws) and install the cooler inverted with the fan on the left side? This would alleviate the ram being covered (and hidden from view).

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

You could just install the fan on the other side. There are grooves for the rubber strips, and cutouts along the sides for fan clip support: 17:38

@CP-fm7zy 5 жыл бұрын

@@AVTechy If that was the case you could just do dual fans in push/pull, but I was thinking for cosmetic reasons since the fanless side has a nicer look to it and should be the one exposed in a 1 fan setup. Plus a pull config is usually better in avoiding dust buildup in the heatsink, so the benefit would be two-fold. I guess my main point was, is the cooler able to be modified for that purpose, or is it a "what you see is what you get" one trick pony? Since you have it you could try it out and see if it works better that way without effecting cooling potential. People looking to buy it would like to know if it's possible to avoid RAM blockage, both physical and visual. PS. I know you are just turning it upside down to do this, but then the logo would be upside down which would be a bummer. Hence why I wanted to know if the top plate is removable/reversible or fixed in place.

@rajatchaudhuri 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the heat dissipation of this cooler will improve if there was no black paint on it?

@AVTechy 2 жыл бұрын

I've got a video on whether black paint impacts thermal performance. Give it a search on the channel page (sorry I can't provide the link... KZfaq Studio is a but naff).

@rajatchaudhuri 2 жыл бұрын

@@AVTechy found the video, great analysis. +1 sub

@irvinmorales1409 2 жыл бұрын

I currently have a Hyper 212 for my 3600. Should I get this cooler if I upgrade the 3600 to a 5600x?

@AVTechy 2 жыл бұрын

Best option is to try the 212 on the 5600X when you get it, and if the temps get too high then consider a bigger cooler. You may find you don't need anything bigger in your use case. Smaller can be as good as a bigger cooler in certain scenarios.

@hxdaro 5 жыл бұрын

13:54 why is the cooler moving like that??

@opegamin 4 жыл бұрын

So if anyone is still looking at this video. im currently shopping for a cpu cooler. i have two 16g ram ripjaws and was wondering if i can move those to the outer two slots for memory. im new to this.

@AVTechy 4 жыл бұрын

First bit of advice, memory slots work in pair most efficiently and have specific setups. Typically the second and fourth slot are the primary pair, and the first and third slot are the secondary pair when using more than one pair of RAM sticks. You can check the motherboard manual for the setup they've designed the board for, but slots 2 and 4 are primary for most boards around. If you place them in slots 1 and 2, or 3 and 4 the RAM will only be running in single channel mode, not dual channel which is faster. It's not knock your socks off kind of faster, but it's faster and is important if you want the "most" (there are so many settings to RAM it's actually quite a challenge to get the absolute most out of RAM) out of the money you've spent on it. Best thing I can say is see what case you're getting, and how much extra room there is for the CPU cooler's fan to move up (cooler clearance - cooler height). If you've got about 10mm+ extra room then there shouldn't be a problem since you can shift the fan out of the way, but if it's very tight (5mm for example) then it might be a little risky. Hope that helped a little.

@opegamin 4 жыл бұрын

@@AVTechy ty sir

@techalex1992 4 жыл бұрын

im about to buy this one. good enough for 3570k and 1,300V?

@erasths7386 4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@techalex1992 4 жыл бұрын

@@erasths7386 i bought lc power cc120 back then.

@sinakianfar 5 жыл бұрын

hi what is diffrence between Dark rock 4 pro and dark rock 4 temperature wise?

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

No idea to be honest. I haven't tested the Dark Rock Pro 4. But based on all the large coolers I've tested I'd only recommend a larger cooler than something like the Dark Rock 4 if you plan on a some overclocking with a high end CPU, or really like the look of the larger cooler.

@vytbbb7146 4 жыл бұрын

can you put 120mm corsair rgb fan on it?

@tt.kb_ 5 жыл бұрын

Can anyone confirm that 2 sticks of RGB ram will be visible with this cooler installed on an ATX mobo, as long as it's in slots 2 and 4?

@Serkong 5 жыл бұрын

@crashedcorvette9979 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking, may have to just cut the wire that holds the fan in place and us a new clip, versus damaging the cooler or scratching it up.

@AVTechy Жыл бұрын

I know what you mean. The proper way to do it is pulling the clips from the front of the fan, but it's still super awkward. I don't think it damages the finish of the fan though.

@Kai-ve8ic 3 жыл бұрын

It sounds quite loud , is it more quite than a msi mag 360r .

@Lee-fw2ug 4 жыл бұрын

Hi would this cooler be sufficient for an i7 10700k? My case won’t allow for anything bigger (the dark Rock pro 4)

@AVTechy 4 жыл бұрын

More than enough, go for it. This is a big cooler, all coolers considered, and it'll serve you well. There are some other great options like the NH-D15S, the Scythe Mugen 5, and even the Ninja which is quite a monster and worth considering. But if the cool black look is what your after then it doesn't look much better than this one.

@difsid569 2 жыл бұрын

can i use it for overclocked cpu?

@mikep6040 2 жыл бұрын

How you know the correct pressure when you tight the cooler's bar? It would be better to have spring attached screws. Isn't it dangerous without it?

@AVTechy 2 жыл бұрын

Until it stops turning. It's all been designed to work at full tightness, no need to worry. Springs are usually a pressure balancing mechanism as part of the pressure limiting mechanism. They're not strictly necessary.

@mikep6040 2 жыл бұрын

@@AVTechy Ty! So there is no risk of damaging cpu I guess. Cause i see some negative comments about mounting of be quiet (with this "bar").

@AVTechy 2 жыл бұрын

No risk at all. be quiet! have been in the game long enough to get the mounting hardware correct. I'd be skeptical of an unknown brand, but there's no need to worry about this cooler.

@mikep6040 2 жыл бұрын

@@AVTechy ty very much my friend! Appreciate:)

@noname981000 5 жыл бұрын

But when i install the fan it was quite easy, installed both fans clip within 2 minutes, but removing it was a nightmare

@kachalujan1126 3 жыл бұрын

Can I put 2 fans on this cooler. Really appreciate if you could response!!

@truzar100 5 жыл бұрын

15:40 all you have to do is pull the clip of from the fan first. this is basic stuff this is super basic stuff.

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

Very true, but damn that's not a simple task. I initially went about pulling at the front of the fan clips, but thought there had to be an easier way since they were so stiff from that angle. It looks really simple in the manual, but in reality the fan is being held in tight, and the leverage comes down to about 7mm of 1mm thick steel in each corner that needs pulling. 7mm isn't a lot for a human finger to pull on. My proposal is going back to the basics of ergonomics. I want to be able to remove the fan in a way that was designed to be done by my hands with ease. This isn't as easy in my opinion as the majority of fan retention mechanisms on the market. As good as it looks, it's not as functional to install (or remove in this case). If this was such a good design, it makes me wonder why the majority of the market doesn't adopt it.

@TrevFD3 4 жыл бұрын

It's very simple and easy as truzar said.

@AVTechy 4 жыл бұрын

Not as simple as a standard clip, why are we going backwards in accessibility? Why not advocate for the most accessible design where practicable?

@truzar100 4 жыл бұрын

@@AVTechy it's more flexible than a standard clip. for example i could just move it enough to fit my ram in

@AVTechy 4 жыл бұрын

@@truzar100 Fair point, short of removing the fan it can just be slid up and down a little bit. But frankly I'd prefer the option to more easily remove the fan than have that utility. The big pain with these clips is the amount of force required to remove them. Having to remove the clip from each corner isn't a trivial task in a tighter build. Compared to a standard clip which can take just a finger and light force without needing to brace the tower to remove them, it's just a no-brainer. One of the easiest ways to figure out what's preferable to the market is "why isn't everyone else doing it?". Is it too expensive? - no. Is there a patent preventing its use? - no. Does it improve the user experience? - no, it makes using the product more difficult. Maybe that's why we don't see this anywhere else...

@muskator1077 5 жыл бұрын

Can I use all 4 Ram Slots? Or is the first near the cooler concealed

@Real_shred_krueger 5 жыл бұрын

I think if its low profile its ok

@InjusticeHater 5 жыл бұрын

I can only tell you that g.skill aegis ddr4 (got 3000s) fits under it. ;-] (got msi b450 tomahawk mobo with ryzen 2600X)

@Phamine 5 жыл бұрын

@@InjusticeHater Would high profile ram fit at all. The Aegis are low profile. How much space was left from the cooler and the ram?

@InjusticeHater 5 жыл бұрын

@@Phamine Hi, sorry is your question still relevant? I forgot to check it but if you still need an info I would open my computer and check it for you ^.-

@Phamine 5 жыл бұрын

@@InjusticeHater Thanks. I decided to go with Noctua D15. Works fine with that cooler.

@gedrot2486 5 жыл бұрын

The most anying thing with be quiet coolers to me is that you can't replace the fans. The included fans do have 120 drillings but they are placed at half height, wich forces you to use a slim fan and accepting performance losses.

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

Very true, it's a pain to even find a specification of the fan that matches that of the included fan of the cooler. It's a nice cooler overall, but it always seems like defensive design to make elements proprietary. It would show a certain amount of confidence if be quiet! designed it to be universally compatible.

@MGRracing 6 ай бұрын

Why can't they make these tower coolers just a little bit higher to they don't hit the first row of RAM sticks if you have full size modules?

@kennethstandley5514 2 жыл бұрын

Use superglue to attach the crossbar to the base before trying to install. Keeps you from getting the cooler off center.

@michaelwplde 3 жыл бұрын

13:30 Good tip, good to know, thank you.

@Jusnzl 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting. After watching the CareyHolzman video on the Dark Rock 4 I was puzzled, because he murders this thing from the thermal paste (not enough apparently), to the fan, to the whole installation process, to the fact that the rubber mounting gromets will erode in a year and allow the metal backplate to short everything in your shiny new PC (again, apparently). Anyone seen that vid and have any thoughts on that, because no one else seems to be complaining to that degree.

@Nost2682 3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion CareyHolzman shouldn't be taken too full. He also thinks that the clips for the fans come off during transport. Or that with the fan although the hole spacing corresponds to that of a 120mm fan. He's too stuck with CoolerMaster.

@michaelwright956 2 жыл бұрын

I know this video is old but I was looking to to buy this cooler purely on name and looks. I like this honest review. I may still buy it but I know what I might be facing.

@AVTechy 2 жыл бұрын

It's a great cooler, no doubt. And the black paint looks great. Just be extra careful to not damage it with the awkward fan clips. Turns out the official way to remove them is from the front. It's still awkward though, so just take extra care that's all. If you like it, go for it. It's all about what you like and what you are willing to deal with regarding difficulty and potential issues.

@michaelwright956 2 жыл бұрын

@@AVTechy I went ahead and bought the dark rock pro 4. I used your Amazon link anyway.

@AVTechy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks man, really appreciate it!

@FlevasGR 4 жыл бұрын

You are meant to remove the fan clips from the side of the fan and not from the side of the heat fins

@Z020852 5 жыл бұрын

If the clips are the same as the Dark Rock 3 try pulling the point of the fan clip that goes into the screw holes. The flaw on the clip design is a compromise. Aesthetically it sits about as flush as possible. As to why they didn't go with black plastic clips like Cooler Master, my guess is they also want to keep them from physically sticking out. When we built an mITX system for my cousin the NH-U14S clip was too close to the PCI-E slot we didn't even try to install an MSI with a backplate and tried the DR3. Personally I prefer the Tuniq 120 design getting around numbnuts fan clips altogether and using one fan to cool two fin stacks with funneled air. Sadly that one's not around anymore and the closest thing to its design is the Wraithripper.

@NorthsideChamps16 4 жыл бұрын

Why wouldn't you just sit the PC down horizontaly for that last step? That literally eliminates the self induced issue you had with it mounting off kilter.

@Hathal_98 5 жыл бұрын

good job man 👌

@JD99 3 жыл бұрын

Will it work with the corsair rgb pro dual kit too? Or is this ram too tall?

@Darryl_Francis 3 жыл бұрын

If it's dual and you have 4 slots, it won't be an issue.

@dkresheck 2 жыл бұрын

I put this beast in an ITX case and it's footprint completely covers the MB. But it keeps the CPU cool and comfy in the tight confines of a Lian-Li TU-150 and a GTX 1080

@vojkostar 3 жыл бұрын

does anyone got fan information on air flow CFM ?

@spektrumB 5 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see how the Dark Rock 4 compares to Scythe Mugen 5.

@AVTechy 5 жыл бұрын

Me too, it's the one I'm most intrigued by at the moment. That and the Macho :)

@justaperson8815 5 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a Scythe FUMA Rev. review if possible!I Keep up the great videos!

@harryape9059 4 жыл бұрын

I think the paper-clip style fan/radiator clips are really cheap and troublesome. It's a thoughtless solution and I completely agree with your assessment! Having said that, you went a bit over the top, laddie.