I used FE Builder and impreccable logic to edit Fire Emblem The Sacred Stones to try and beat the demon king in the opening prologue chapter of the game with a level 1 Eirika. Yes it's dumb, but so am I.
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@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
What do you guys think of this type of video, and what other stupid stuff can I do with febuilder? 🙃
@IronMetel56 ай бұрын
FE6 Hard Mode but every shop item costs 10 times as much
@ethanvanderbeke74456 ай бұрын
This, but for fe6 and Zephiel decided to invade Pherae himself.
@khan66906 ай бұрын
good stuff, keep it coming
@windchimes87646 ай бұрын
As someone who doesn't care about FE this was pretty fun
@josuetrejo83766 ай бұрын
A 1v1 between the final bosses in GBA games to see who's the strongest
@StormEagleCH6 ай бұрын
Eirika: *slays demonic harbinger of apocalypse that randomly appeared on her doorstep* “why couldn’t we just have talked it out? are words useless?”
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I loved seeing the cutscene dialogue and how ridiculous it sounds after killing fomortiis 🤣
@angel899076 ай бұрын
I love that Franz arrived to help and then just hid in the mountains the entire fight😂
@Alector126 ай бұрын
Franzs theoretical biggest contribution would have been to act as a sacrificial pawn in enemy phase for Formotiis to kill so that Valter lived and coult strike more often.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Franz wasn't needed in the end but yes this would 100% be the most useful thing he could do
@maskedlover87686 ай бұрын
his 20+ attribute is surely scary
@timothymclean5 ай бұрын
He kept Leon out of the fight. That's not nothing!
@user-oy8vj1qq5i6 ай бұрын
My favorite part of this was Valter going "Oh that's probably pretty bad" and just choosing to fight the demon king
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
He's a nice guy really 😅 ...
@yoursonisold87436 ай бұрын
And then he is the only one that dies lol
@FarCritical6 ай бұрын
Came for beating the final boss at Level 1, stayed for the justifications for the characters sticking around ("the power of love lets him break free from the demon king's influence" lmao)
@josuetrejo83766 ай бұрын
I mean, at that stage of the story it would still be reasonable for that to happen
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Gotta keep the logic in here somewhere :P
@decarabiaumbra5606 ай бұрын
Eirika: "This is war, isn't it?" Yes Eirika, all wars start with you needing to slay the supernatural entity that is the top general of the opposing army.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I love her dialogue after the map, it feels so silly after the demon king 😂
@IDESTROYER2366 ай бұрын
Valter turning blue cracked me lmao.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
He's a good guy after all!
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
He's a good guy after all!
@IDESTROYER2366 ай бұрын
"He's only human after all. Don't put the blame on him."
@blackdragoncyrus6 ай бұрын
Fomortiis: "What the fuck am I doing here."
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
His map animations didn't even move like they're supposed too, he was definitely just confused
@AvelineMelena6 ай бұрын
Valter looks at the demon king like "This will be a good hunt"
@TheEcoolarg6 ай бұрын
Bad At Fire Emblem:*Proceeds to be good at Fire Emblem*
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I try, but I don't always succeed
@archerbias65976 ай бұрын
I think this can be done in two edits (sticking within the spirit of the challenge) 1. Add Valter 2. Give him Killer Lance You’d Pierce crit once, rescue with Seth (so DK kills him instead of Valter,) then it again Also, this video is funny because the challenge is like kind of fake but also i 100% see how you ended up spending like probably a whole afternoon doing this
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Ahh that's smart, good thinking. Haha yeah it took ages 🤣
@sans20516 ай бұрын
I can't believe Donkey Kong out of all people will kill Seth
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
@@sans2051 I dunno man, Donkey Kong is pretty strong from throwing all those barrels 🤔
@decarabiaumbra5606 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblemDonkey Kong is my favorite character from Fe8. Donkey Kong fir CYL 9
@KieraQ03236 ай бұрын
I thought my idea was pretty good, but yours is better. 1. Spawn demon king. 2. Load Franz. 3. Load Valter. 4. Give Valter Vdofnir. 5. Load Lyon. 6. Give Lyon Heal to heal Valter. This strat requires 3 pierces with Valter.
@scottk59466 ай бұрын
This was another cool concept! I really liked how you brought in some of the creature campaign characters since not a lot of people talk about them.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
It's definitely fun to actually use them, glad you enjoyed the vid :)
@PurpleRupees6 ай бұрын
This was fun. I have the idea "How early into the game could you defeat the final boss." In FE8 clearly you can't win with the resources in Prologue. But you probably could earlier than the final chapter. How much earlier could be fun to find out.
@Scotts_GamingWorld6 ай бұрын
I didn't expect the villains to come and help 😂 Ok we need more of these you have some great ideas!
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot Scott, as always appreciat the support 😊
@lpfan44916 ай бұрын
Valter just showing up on our side is hilarious. And weirdly, it actually makes the most amount of canonical sense of all of these edits. He's not in leagues with the inner circle of demonic powers, he's just a cursed maniac who wants to prolong the war to have more slaughter and bloodshed happen and in that specific situration, going against the dude about to end the war by just erasing humanity outright is the better option for that objective. 4:48 I am still fairly sure that's meant to be a symbolic thing because Knoll is the most likely wielder and he already failed to contain the demon king(also related to why the first Lyon encounter has the Fenrir tome). But that's besides the point of the video.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
It feels wrong but also right 😂 He does what he wants, and what he wants is to proc Luna on the most ancient evil the world has ever seen
@felikatze6 ай бұрын
What a fun video! Taking a ridiculous premise and going "okay, but what if" is great. I think the attempt to justify edits in a story-sense really added to the charm here.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you appreciated the effort, thanks 😊
@andreescalona89025 ай бұрын
man, this is why I love role-playing as a concept. what a fun video!
@RosstheSauceStirrer6 ай бұрын
"Man i knew Seth was strong but i didnt think he was that strong" *click*. Ah.
@mattcouture25796 ай бұрын
This is fantastic! The only other one I could think of is how far could you take Lyn's team from the FE7 prologue into Eliwood or Hector's campaign.
@GaIeforce6 ай бұрын
It wasn't needed in the end, but Lyon has an A rank in staves, which could let him undo all the damage Fado and/or Valter took with the single use of a Heal staff. He'll probably get doubled and die in the enemy phase, but thats why Franz exists.
@marimecham3 ай бұрын
Maybe edit in a physic 👉👈 I do think the end strategy was fun and creatively done either way, but my actually bad at fe brain would've definitely needed more edits and buffs to do this 😅
@Shadrogon6 ай бұрын
Playing off of this idea, what if you played the game normally, but on like turn 5 of every map, the Demon King spawns in? How much of the game would you need to play before you're strong enough to beat the Demon King?
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
This is such a cool idea! I freaking love this. No idea how hard it'd be or when I'd get around to trying it out, but I'll definitely test this at some point 💛
@TaismoFanBoy6 ай бұрын
At a guess, if you get Lucky enough, Chapter 8 for the Elysian Whip for Vanessa to get Pierce (where you'd already have access to a Killer Lance for her) into a Pierce Crit feels like the technical earliest. If we're talking on average, you may need Vanessa to get a few post-promotion levelups, add a second Ch10 Eph-Route Elysian Whip for Cormag/Tana because Pierce is absolutely insane, or at absolute worst wait until your first S rank weapons kick in (Ch15).
@Armore26 ай бұрын
I mean this wouldn't work on the other GBA bosses, not without at least 3 times the edits.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
... challenge accepted 😉
@KieraQ03236 ай бұрын
They don't chase you down and kill you though, so it might actually be easier.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
@@KieraQ0323 I'd definitely change the AI to let them move, it's more fun that way 😂
@mikeng18055 ай бұрын
Binding blade boss is so suck isnt? Base lvl 1 roy with binding blade can do much damage
@Armore25 ай бұрын
@@mikeng1805 Yes, if you use the uncut boss stats. But for binding blade I was thinking of the cut boss stats... Also since binding blade never came to the west I was thinking more on the Fire dragon.
@Wizzkidwas5 ай бұрын
Valter only helped out because he sensed the demon king as a rival for his hunt on Eirika
@zdelrod8296 ай бұрын
Three Houses but you face Nemesis in Chapter 1
@leclairtrevor6 ай бұрын
awesome work on these videos, keep em coming
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, glad you enjoyed
@dylanzlol729312 күн бұрын
Eirika's dad still died even in this timeline
@davialmeida44426 ай бұрын
Great video, but I'm thinking of a strategy that actually would use less changes. I didn't do the math in this one, so correct me if I doesn't add up. The idea is to, instead of letting Valter or Fado die in enemy phase, you put Seth in range of the demon king and hope he Seth instead of Valter. Then, on the next turn, you attack with Fado and Valter again to pick up the K.O This way, you don't need to give Eirika the Siegmund or Seth the Auhulma + the S rank swords, saving three changes from the original strategy
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Yeah that could potentially work, it'd just have less reliability. You could technically beat it with like 3 changes if you could sink a few weeks into actually getting the 0.001% chance of success 😅
@Gregburn666 ай бұрын
Love this concept, you should do it again.
@kratosmvn_6 ай бұрын
Bad at Fire Emblem: "Garm is arguably the best legendary weapon in the game" Me: "I have been summoned" Glad there is another Garm truther out here 😂 Great video!
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I know how to get your attention in future then 😂 if we're talking pure damage then it's hard to compete with 20 might +5 speed, that's ridiculous Cheers bro 😊
@khan66906 ай бұрын
Seth: Yo erika why'd you assemble all of us Eirka: we have to work together to beat the demon king Seth: ok irika but why are lyon and franz over the mountain? Erieka: RNG manip Seth: show feet pics
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
You can't question this stuff, there's always a reason
@conneryotto67376 ай бұрын
Keep doing these mate! Lot of fun watching you break this down
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Thanks, watch this space I guess :P
@larcek.giglamesh6 ай бұрын
truly loved it that you stayed within the realms of possible options, instead of just maxing all chars with lengendary weapons and maybe some extra artifacts to slaughter that monster.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Thanks, I thought it made it more fun, glad you liked it 😊
@someoneusedtobeknown26456 ай бұрын
FEBuilder was a blessing to this world.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
1000% Febuilder is the sole reason I made a channel
I would like to know what chapter you could theoretically defeat the Demon King successfully with the only edit being spawning him in the first place.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Athos with fe7 Luna and a couple elixirs? Or maybe just Myrrh, she's cracked? 😅
@marcalcantara11746 ай бұрын
Cool concept of a video and very well executed. No way I just found a good fetuber
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I'm glad you liked it, thanks a lot 😊
@nicholasgrossman31946 ай бұрын
Dude, I had no idea that Demon King thing was real. I just started a Romhack of FE8 that adds in 57 nee features or "minihacks" from addilng Dread Lord, to giving Pre Promotes new paths. Like Garcias kid the axe user kid can hit level 10, promote and do it like three times making him Godlike lol. It also adds in The Tactiican, which is like YOU as a player and his basic attack is the demon lord animation, its only playable on Hardest setting😊
@MrMariosonicman6 ай бұрын
I know the hack your talking about. its called the "microhack" right? I love it for the crazy amount of units. just wish it was more widespread as it can be hard to find and download with such a generic name.
@nicholasgrossman31946 ай бұрын
@@MrMariosonicman Yeah the guy who makes them his channel videos are really old, media fire downloads expire and stuff but I remember it being alot of fun
@VaporeonEnjoyer16 ай бұрын
Sacred Stones was my first FE game and Garm really set the bar high when I had my cracked out Ross using it along with the twins to one turn the demon king. I was quite surprised when I played FE7 and literally no one with legendary weapons was doing more than like, 8 damage to the dragon except Hector.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Yeah there's definitely a difference in strength, I'm curious to see how hard the dragon would be
@WanderingMindSR5 ай бұрын
This was neat and I liked the parameters you worked within
@BadAtFireEmblem5 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 😊
@sussing-55026 ай бұрын
This was a great video! Keep uploading more like this and your other series! So happy the algorithm blessed me with this channel! ❤
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I happy you found the channel too , thanks for the kind words 🙂
@Silverlion_905 ай бұрын
So bad that any other game had wyvern knight. That sprite looked so cool.
@mobgabriel17675 ай бұрын
Fado was running away from valter and then they found formotiis and went "oh thats not good"
@BadAtFireEmblem5 ай бұрын
He's between a rock and a hard place 😬
@EvOLvEDT3RROR5 ай бұрын
I have no idea what game this is or how I even got here, but this was a very well made video. I hope you get a bigger community one day. Keep up the good work!
@BadAtFireEmblem5 ай бұрын
Appreciate the kind words :)
@GrimHeaperThe6 ай бұрын
Seeing alt scenarios like this is fun, what ifs.
@DeejusProductions6 ай бұрын
Great video! Im new to the channel but I like this because it sets itself different from all the other FE vids out there
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard! Hope you enjoy your time with us 😊
@gundamkw10955 ай бұрын
My Erika in hard mode is in level 12 and have 4 attack. Love this gal.
@asdfqwerty145876 ай бұрын
Technically, with extreme RNG abuse, you could have leveled up Seth and Eirika to level 20 in the prologue and gotten +1 to all of their stats every level up (so pretty much reaching the stat caps for their class) without any edits necessary (you can move all of your weapons to 1 character to prevent counterattacks and let the brigands attack you and miss and gain 1 exp per combat potentially infinitely many times). Seth can do 2 damage per attack with the silver lance with capped strength. With more RNG abuse to ensure that Fomortiis misses every single attack and Seth crits every single attack, this allows Seth to do 6*20 damage to the demon lord doing exactly enough damage to KO him when his silver lance breaks. So technically, you could beat the demon king in the prologue without actually buffing any of your characters at all.. it would just require a lot of RNG abuse and be really, really tedious to do. EDIT: Double checking my math, it seems I used the incorrect Mt value for silver lance, which would bring it to 4 damage instead of 2. Additionally, you could get supports with eirika and seth to get him another +3 damage, which would make the "critting every attack" part of it unnecessary.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Crikey, that would been a painful experience 😅
@lordmudkip73446 ай бұрын
by rescuing Valter with Seth (dealing damage on enemy phase) and getting a C support between Seth and Eirika you can kill the Demon King without Fado: 49+49+16+7=121
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
There's lots of different options, I just went with what I thought would be semi-reliable with better probabilities than most other options
@deimos14846 ай бұрын
That is a really cool concept 👍🏻😂
@Jairyoku5 ай бұрын
Very cool :3
@Direblade116 ай бұрын
ngl the title made me assume this was one of those weird AI or algorithm videos that say random anime BS for views... ... because the thumbnail hadn't loaded
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Lol, if this was AI generated it would have taken way less effort 😅
@user-by6zu6kh2r6 ай бұрын
3:37 Valter Wtf? 4:32 Just like Heroes.
@maskedlover87686 ай бұрын
we are in the endgame, everyone join force =]]
@PokeShadow7725 күн бұрын
Demon King doesn't go for the Fire Emblem Lord in Chapter 1 because of his 1% chance of utter embarassment
@Nitosa6 ай бұрын
Giving Fado 2 elixers would also do, the only scary part would be the shaky hitrate and that 10% crit for 4 turns. It's just 4 coin flips and a 10% to get hit by a cruise missile.
@trongphucnguyenang875 ай бұрын
I think you can beat by using Erika, Seth and Frado by fishing Great Shield
@Kirbycrasher27466 ай бұрын
Assuming you can get counter attacks on the demon king, both valter and fado can get 2 attacks by: getting hit, surviving, countering and then attacking again, then dying to the counter. So if you're lucky, you only need 4 edits; fado, valter, and the weapons. Valter counters DK and pierces for 49, then attacks piercing again for 98, then fado can finished DK off (i assume pierce can trigger on a counter)
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Demon king's main attack 1-2 range so unfortunately you don't get to attack on counter. But there's definitely strategies with fewer edits, they just have wayyy lower chances of working lol
@normguy57946 ай бұрын
I just discovered this channel, and it's really good! Im currently playing FE7 blazing blade (my first ever fe i am playing), and i am on the eliwood chapter. What do you think i should play next after finishing this one?
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the vids :) That's really cool that you're just getting into the series, hopefully you'll fall inove with the games fe7 and fe8 the sacred stones are the best 2 to start with, then fe6 is playable through the same emulator as well. After that the other games in the series are on more clunky emulators or you have to buy the physical games on DS or switch etc
@bentimmons65975 ай бұрын
What is the first chapter in sacred stones that’d you able to beat the demon king in? 🤔
@regalblade8171Ай бұрын
Probably Chapter 8, since you can grind everyone to lv20 in the Arena, make Vanessa a Wyvern Knight and then also maybe have Tirado join in as either extra damage or a sacrifice
@replicamodel29426 ай бұрын
Could you put a playable Fomortiis in Ch. 20 Darkling Woods and see if he could survive his own horde of monsters? I think it'd be interesting to see how he would handle it.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I do have a plan to do something very similar to this at some point, it's a good idea 😊
@dr00skee476 ай бұрын
GIGA BASED
@monorealsoul6 ай бұрын
If fado just procs great shield every combat technically he can just one man the demon king with garm over a couple of turns lol
@JoeEmb7766 ай бұрын
Looks like that guy who attempted sacred stones but every enemy is fomortiis has a way to finally get the run past chapter 1
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Oh no way, I had no idea that was a thing! That's so cool
@shytendeakatamanoir97406 ай бұрын
Seth can't even 1 round the Demon King 👿👑on the prologue, which means he's actually terrible like every other Jagen 🐎💩
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Hot takes 🔥
@TheMoogleKing936 ай бұрын
Eirika: Now what
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Now onto chapter 1 ! Tans needs saving from .. a dude.
@NontpNonjo6 ай бұрын
So I see you can beat the Demon King in Eirika's first chapter. Impressive. But could you beat the Demon King in Ephraim's first map?
@AllBeganwithBBS6 ай бұрын
That was really nice to watch, but hear me out real quick. You know how Hector gets done in by Zephiel in the early game of Fe6? Well I didn't like that. First of all, Hector has the home advantage, so he's obviously on a throne. An Fe6 throne. Besides that, he's spent years after Fe7, meaning he promoted, and likely capped his level. Exact stats don't really matter here, so we can take average or capped. I'll leave the weapon choice for Hector up to you, too. Now under these conditions, the question becomes: Does Zephiel really have it in him to defeat good old Hector?
@lpfan44916 ай бұрын
We already have a gameplay-depiction of FE6 Hector in the trial maps. (Also, going by the story, he wasn't on the throne, he was on the field getting absolutely oofed by Brunnya and Narcian while his army couldn't help him because it was busy getting turned to ash by some wardragons.)
@elbromas2215 ай бұрын
Now do it with the fire dragon 😈
@BadAtFireEmblem5 ай бұрын
At some point 👀
@HanakkoLove6 ай бұрын
Lmao that was fun
@trashman97126 ай бұрын
Loremaster
@lefthandedscout99236 ай бұрын
A Pierce followed by Luna crit is 115 damage, so with the best RNG, you need First get Valter over here Second get Lyon over here Third give Lyon Luna Fourth give Valter Vidofnir Fifth give Lyon an Energy Ring to boost his Magic by 2 and therefore crit damage by 6 Sixth spawn the Demon King for them to actually fight Step 1: Valter goes in and hits the 78.55% chance to hit, then hits the 13% chance to proc Pierce, and does 49 damage. Step 2: Run Seth in to body block the Demon King alongside Valter. Step 3: Have Lyon use his Energy Ring to get to 24 Magic. Step 4: End turn. Demon King will kill either Seth or Valter. Let's assume Valter because that's worst case scenario. Step 5: Lyon goes in with his Luna and hits the 12.75% chance to hit and the 1% crit at the same time, dealing 72 damage. The Demon King dies. This has a 1 in 7,680.7 chance of working, so it'll take a few resets! Depending on where you spawn the Demon King, you might be able to do the Lyon attack first and body block him with your two units, then have Valter attack on second turn so you can get the harder RNG roll out the way early, but that results in two character deaths instead of one. Then again, I doubt you're worrying about beating the future chapters when concocting this scenario! I didn't think about Rescues or anything else because I don't know the unit's CON stats off the top of my head, but it might be possible to get it easier by forcing certain deaths doing that as well.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Yish, that'd be a long afternoon 😅 I was trying to find the most reliable strategy with the fewest edits but if you just want the fewest edits then this is very good
@beepbeepo15426 ай бұрын
What's the earliest you could kill the demon king?
@just-mees6 ай бұрын
Can't seth rescue-drop valter to allow him to get a second hit in? I think Seth's aid at base is higher than Valter's con..
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
You could, but you'd lose Seth's attack so you haven't gained anything. Unless you go for a second Luna proc on Valter but you're getting into lower combined probabilities. There's loads of ways to do this, I just went with what I thought would be semi-reliable and I could actually do 😅
@just-mees6 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem actually, you know who could rescue-drop valter as well? Franz! That good-for-nothing slacker on the other side of the mountain range!!
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
@@just-mees yeah it'd be his one valuable contribution
@co8wei6 ай бұрын
Technically you could just use Seth with Audhulma and hope he dodges the 93%(True hit: 99.09%lol) every single time until the demon king dies.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Yeah no, I don't wanna put myself through that 🤣
@ImportAustralia6 ай бұрын
You completely skipped over the potential contributions O’Neill the boss could make by… uh, getting targeted by the Demon King so Fado and Valter don’t have to die. I guess. Maybe. Possibly.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Ah dang I forgot about O'Neil!
@ImportAustralia6 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem I suppose the two other enemy axefighters in the prologue technically count as units in the area as well, but at THAT point we're just being completely silly
@lpfan44916 ай бұрын
O'Neill and his troups honorably sacrificing themselves by distracting Fomortiis is pretty legendary. Reminds me of a PoC remake of the prologue I once made in private where I rewrote the guy to be very reasonable. In which he wanted to spare the player party(not knowing who the two are) by getting them to cooperate and the fight only happens because they (understandably, given the situration) refuse and attack to clear the path.
@SteamAPunk6 ай бұрын
W
@MattMorency6 ай бұрын
Demon light crit.
@Me_Mike_sus6 ай бұрын
Can't you just lower the ranks of the legendary to increase bonus damage?
@emblemblade92456 ай бұрын
Can Seth not rescue Valter or Fado then stand in place and be the sacrifice, thus giving both Valter and Fado another chance to attack after enemy phase? Or will DK target the weakened character over Seth every time?
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I didn't test it out, but you'd be trading Seth's attack for another attack so you haven't gained much by doing it I don't think
@ZareShine6 ай бұрын
Couldn't you give valter a killer lance and get a pierce crit to cut out at the very least giving him S rank lances? and depending how much you want to pray to RNG I think that could theoretically be the only change but you probably want fado with garm too so you don't have to do it twice. That way the only edits would be valter, killer lance, fado, s rank, garm. If you either rigged the RNG or wanted to try forever you could take it to just killer lance and valter but that would take getting two pierce crits. It would take some effort to get the pierce crit, but it would take out the need for seth or erika to hit, so it might be a net reliabilty upgrade though I haven't run the numbers.
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
You could that yeah, there's lots of options for doing it with fewer edits but the probability of success is super low, I just went with what I felt was semi-doable whilst still being low-ish on the number of edits
@ZareShine6 ай бұрын
@@BadAtFireEmblem Ah yeah I see that now that I actually ran the numbers I thought not needing to swing with Seth/Eirika would make them at least comparable, but my way was about 1/4 the chance of yours since you're relying on the relatively small crit chance since the demon lord has somewhat high luck. The only benefit I can think of my way really is the luck is mostly condensed in the valter attack so that means less chances to get unlucky, but for this type of situation that doesn't really matter since overall the initial pierce crit is really unlikely
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
@@ZareShine there's no right or wrong way of doing it, it's just what I ended up putting together
@dferas55355 ай бұрын
does the game crash after you defeat it? or does it continue like you didn't do it?
@BadAtFireEmblem5 ай бұрын
I don't think I had it set up correctly for the game to know the map had been cleared so it just stated on the map. But you can manually clear the chapter with the debugger and then it just goes into chapter 1 like nothing happened
@colenelson81236 ай бұрын
*Theoretically* Valter could solo the demon king, but it would require way too much RNG manipulation. Valter deals 49 damage with pierce The demon king kills Valter in two hits and doesn't have a 100% hit rate If you were unbelievably lucky Valter would need to avoid at least two 93% hits (due to 2 rn these are 99.09 each and also the lowest I saw him have against Valter) while landing three 13% pierce hits at 69% hit rate (81.09 real hit, also the highest hit chance Valter had). You'd probably have to box Formortiis in with others so he didn't go after Valter from 2 range, but oh well. I'm not gonna run the math on all that, but if I had to guess, it's not very high
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
Yeah that'd be an interesting week and a half 😅
@orlof5076 ай бұрын
ok, but can you play as the Demon King?
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
That's an idea I do have written down for the guy future 👀
@theimpostor83946 ай бұрын
I think the smallest edit that you could do to make this very much less unbareable than dodge exp ing Seth to 24 strength, is giving Seth the Slayer skill (Paladins are holy). With that, his Silver Lance triples in might against monsters, going from 14 to 42. With his 14 strength, that's 56 damage, Eirika A Support is 3 more damage, 59. 59-35 is 24. So that's only...(24, 48, 72, 96, 120) 5 hits. With the ~56 hit Seth has with the Silver Lance (about 62% true hit), and the fact that you'd optimally only take 16 Demon King attacks which, for the first four, would optimally be 66 (77 true hit), the rest being 86 (96 true hit) So the calc would be 0.23^4 x .04^8 x 0.62^5. Or 1.969^-15 0.000000000000001969% A little more bareable than dodge exp grinding Seth 10 levels with all strength (0.23^1000 x .5^10, a number so small, that the google calculator gives me a 0) to deal enough damage to kill the Demon with all 20 uses of the Silver Lance.
@bennethbugna77956 ай бұрын
This is literally chrono trigger meets fire emblem. Where after beating the game you get the option to go straight to the final boss in new game+ 😂
@BadAtFireEmblem6 ай бұрын
I've never played chrono trigger but that's really cool!