The system is designed primarily to line the pockets of Don Garber and friends. Therefore any growth needs to be controlled so they can take their share of any revenue made. An open system won't be allowed for as long as the greedy are in charge

How is pro/rel great for the sport in the US? I’m not sure you understand sports culture in the US.

@@fthamma Multiple reasons. 1. Pro/rel creates more of a meritocracy for clubs and players. 2. It makes lower leagues feasible because there is something to play for. 3. It makes all divisions more competitive year round 4. It creates a lot more teams and more academies, many more free to play academies will start as they have incentive to grow players. 5. Players are way less likely to fall thru the cracks as there is a built in safety net of clubs at all levels to play on. 6. It allows players who are not college material and not on a pro team to continue playing football seriously. 7. It creates organic sport culture as you can actually have local teams where ever there is demand for one. And like really local not 1-3 hours away. So you need more reasons? Or is the Billionaire owners more one side investment being 100% safe more important than all of that

@@rq7284 There is still no chance pro/rel is feasible right now. 1. The step up in quality from USL to MLS is too high especially depth in a full season. 2. Lower leagues have the US open cup to play for and their own league championship. 3. Not really just the bottom teams in MLS will actually have to try not to go under. 4. Watch the video you commentated on. Also Free to play academies, good luck with that. 5. There are plenty of teams a player can play for in and outside of the US. If you are good enough you’ll play somewhere. 6. If you aren’t good enough for d1 soccer good luck making it pro. 7. I don’t think the casual fan would care to support their local club as much as you believe. Most of my friends would root for Barca, Bayern, Man U, or PSG. Before supporting their local club.

@@fthamma Not sure about the quality gap being that big. But regardless, anytime a USL team is allowed to move to MLS they just spend more money and are usually competitive enough. 2. Our lower leagues below pro are Summer leagues for college kids, and those players don't play Open cup 3. It's called having parachute payments and stuff. You don't just make it the wild west with no infrastructure. And sometimes clubs fail, but I'd rather have thousands more and risk losing one or two. 4. I watched the video. How many free academies are there? I'm saying you can increase that number 10 fold with pro rel 5. I play in Europe, I am aware there are teams to play for. But it's not that easy to get paperwork to come over here, and not everyone is financially able. But shitty summer leagues where no one gets scouted is not really producing players. It's just a crutch 6. Again I didn't play D1 and I play in Europe, you don't really understand how football works 7. Yeah not everyone supports their local, but you definitely won't if you don't even have the option. On the contrary I've seen communities in the US show up to lower league games in good numbers when the team has an organic connection. Again talking nonsense

Imagine all the underdogs coming up Bc of the motivation to maybe get promoted. Man the game would be so much better & a good opportunity for players

@@christianyarros9066 they would have no choice

@@tonyponce6196 exactly

@Xavier Laneuville Why would they have no choice? They literally own the team. The league is run by owners. If you were an owner that put millions of dollars into a club, under no circumstances would you risk your team being relegated. The owners would never agree to this - it’s naive to think that “competition” and “the love of the game” would force owners into a relegation system.

@@christianyarros9066 that’s the sad part. Soccer shouldn’t be about money. That’s why the US sucks compared to Europe.

Lies again? Match Facts

I was making more than a pro soccer player back in the 90s and I was just a file clerk for a law firm.

$63k is worth less now due to inflation

I do as well. I had a few friends in the league in the late 90s. I laughed at their salaries, sadly. Most quit by 26 years old. Got real jobs or went into coaching.

@@christianyarros9066 63k is actually worth something. That's about $33 an hour if it was a real job. $33 an hour for playing a sport you love? Where do I sign up.

@@luisgarcia373 The problem is you only can play for so long before age catches up with you. then you have to try and get a job in another field, and in America being a long-term pro athlete means you get shunned from most other careers because you need a college degree plus work experience in that field.

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Shit man.. How those knees doing now?

Keep it up though!

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Because football/soccer in the US did not had a fully professional national league until 1996 when MLS had its 1st season. The only exception being the original NASL in the late 1970s. In addition, MLS itself was considered a young and unstable league until Beckham came to America . The league was still mediocre quality wise until 5 years ago. The USL Championship solidified itself as the 2nd division only after the 2nd NASL died out in 2018. The sport is simply young regarding professional play here in the States and we are still developing a proper soccer pyramid.

@@kenw7287 don’t get why they don’t just adopt the systems they use in Europe

@@Gratefully- Because not every country in Europe have the same pyramid structure. You have countries like Malta or Luxembourg where there is only 1 tier of fully professional football. On the other hand, you have Italy and Germany with 3 tiers of fully professional football. Also the organization is different between countries. In England., the leagues are organized by distance at the lower tiers. In Germany, the leagues are organized by state/province at the lower tiers.

@isaiahjones2933 MLS can't fund all of that yet. But it's getting there with MLS Next Pro. Eventually there will probably be 3 divisions with just MLS, USL for fringe MLS players, and MLS Next Pro for youth players

Lol. Obamacare. Most have 2nd jobs or secondary income. The majority are done playing before 30 years old. You kinda realize by a certain age if you're gonna make money or not. Most get real jobs or become high school or college coaches. Still a nice life.

@@ReelGreezy Follow them on facebook, they post there usually

@@ReelGreezy you can check out their website. it is written on that. Do some.research

@@ReelGreezy Allahu akbar* . A pronoun is written by a capital letter.

They can't. Most of them actually are worse off playing soccer than if they went to university and got a job in another field. Those playing are doing it for the love of the game for a few years until they move on to another career.

lolllllllllllllllll, you are funny bro but you are correct, but would you work for 9-5 for $27000 or play soccer for the same amount?. would you like to wake up in the morning and go to the job you hate

@@nemuelpaiva3738 well id work for the 27000 because when I'm 37 il.still.have that job, when I'm the same age in football terms, im a dishwasher.

It doesn't matter what the MLS argues. The league system is determined solely by the USSF and the USSF has declared for 2022 that the USLC is the second tier and MLS Next Pro will be in the third tier. It might change in the future, but it's up to the USSF not the MLS.

Almost all the current MLS Next Pro teams are reserve teams meant for developing homegrown/youth talent. I mean the Borussia Dortmund II team plays in the German 4 division. Its not really relevant to youth development imo.

To me it doesn’t matter what Tier the MLS next pro is considered to be. It is a reserves league and unless the reserves teams were inserted in the pyramid through pro/rel like in Germany or Spain it is a bit irrelevant to determine the Tier for this. In England the reserves teams are not part of the pyramid. It is like trying to determine where are the U18 teams in the pyramid or the U16 teams. They are youth/development football and the reserves teams tend to be U23 or U21 depending on the country.

That’s called the Open Cup

How?

@@duaneswaby622 Now if they do a promotion/relegation system there won’t be two teams of the same organization (for example: Atlanta UTD and Atlanta UTD2 in the same league)

That wasn’t what was holding it back though. MLS owners just don’t want the possibility to lose revenue by being relegated.

No it won’t. MLS Next Pro is for MLS reserve teams, it’s not a league for pro/rel at all

Relegation will not work in the USA. There are limited fan bases, TV & other media will refuse to provide any coverage and until there is a sufficient culture like that in other parts of the world (perhaps in 20-30 years) implementing relegation would mean the death of the American leagues. At the present, MLS depends entirely on wealthy individuals and media coverage to allow it to exist. If you are a fan from Europe, and you have interest in, say American lacrosse, how do you start a league where only a handful of people care about the sport, hardly any billionaires or millionaires want to fund your teams, and where the local media have no interest in covering your game? Right now, unless the local team is doing well, the local fans do not support it thru bad times which means with relegation a team does not get a chance to be better, it would just fold and within a couple of years the entire league. This has already happened several times already and MLS & the USL are so far, thanks to no relegation, been able to survive and grow.

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Yes, majority of MLS players will have a signing bonus worked into their contracts and a minority of USL Championship and USL League 1 players will have a signing bonus although it's pretty small. Half of my USL contracts I've gotten have had signing bonuses.

Actually, the US is lucky we have MLS even with its franchise no relegation mode. Until 2014 soccer or football was regularly attacked by our politicians, media, etc. as "sissyball" watched only by unpatriotic citizens who should stripped of their rights and deported. Think I am making this up? Google "soccer is a sissy sport". in addition, American media despises soccer because there are no ad breaks, so the only way to grow the sport in the US was to adopt the billionaire owner franchise system with no relegation and a hard salary cap. Even without relegation in the last 30 years the follow leagues have folded: The American Soccer League (twice), the National Association League, the North American Soccer League (twice), the United Soccer League, & the USSF Division 2 Professional League.

Well it's not that easy since they are come from Different Confederation . Unless : 1. The USA move to UEFA . 2. Or Celtic / Rangers / Aberdeen Build satelite club in MLS like Japan Did in Singapore / red Bulls In many country . 3 . MLS Build satelite club in Scotland , BUT they must start from Lowest division like another new Formed club .

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Yeah, for the most part, that's what I've generally seen (there's always exceptions), but the USSF is the one who officially determines the pyramid system.

Not really, Detroit city played in NiSA last year and with barely any new signings they’re holding out pretty well in USLC so far, also two NISA teams beat USLC teams this year in Lamar hunt cup. From watching usl league one and nisa teams in the open cup this year there’s not much difference with usl league one being only slightly better.

@@lilwyneblows777 got almost a whole new roster.

@@lilwyneblows777 I am from Detroit and you are very wrong. The entire roster was almost brand new and significantly better.

Relegation will not work in the USA. There are limited fan bases, TV & other media will refuse to provide any coverage and until there is a sufficient culture like that in other parts of the world (perhaps in 20-30 years) implementing relegation would mean the death of the American leagues. At the present, MLS depends entirely on wealthy individuals and media coverage to allow it to exist. If you are a fan from Europe, and you have interest in, say American lacrosse, how do you start a league where only a handful of people care about the sport, hardly any billionaires or millionaires want to fund your teams, and where the local media have no interest in covering your game? Right now, unless the local team is doing well, the local fans do not support it thru bad times which means with relegation a team does not get a chance to be better, it would just fold and within a couple of years the entire league. This has already happened several times already and MLS & the USL are so far, thanks to no relegation, been able to survive and grow.

You realize not having relegation is much more sustainable right? Look at how the best teams in europe tried to create a super league. Closed leagues are what the game is moving towards.

Relegation will not work in the USA. There are limited fan bases, TV & other media will refuse to provide any coverage and until there is a sufficient culture like that in other parts of the world (perhaps in 20-30 years) implementing relegation would mean the death of the American leagues. At the present, MLS & USL depend entirely on wealthy individuals and media coverage to allow it to exist. If you are a fan from Europe, and you have interest in, say American lacrosse, how do you start a league where only a handful of people care about the sport, hardly any billionaires or millionaires want to fund your teams, and where the local media have no interest in covering your game? Right now, unless the local team is doing well, the local fans do not support it thru bad times which means with relegation a team does not get a chance to be better, it would just fold and within a couple of years the entire league. This has already happened several times already and MLS & the USL are so far, thanks to no relegation, been able to survive and grow.

@@RedMan-yx2pzsustainable for as long as the fan base is happy with a closed system. A closed system is bad for youth player development. It is a centrally planned league with little real competition. In an open system there is more inequality (based on many variables) but that freedom generates a creative destruction process that improves the whole system / football pyramid as a whole.

@@RedMan-yx2pzhaving no relegation means the owners get richer and don’t have to attract any talent to thier teams they don’t have to scout or put any effort smh that’s why Europe is better than us at futbol and South America

It describes from 2:23 on, but those numbers are only estimated.

Anywhere from 1000-3000$ per month

@@nicholasbertocchi9697 is usl considered to be pro or semi pro

I think he forgot to mention it. As far as I know the USL-2 is planning to play a 2022 season. I’ve seen game schedules posted on their website. Sheldon also should do a video where he describes the women’s pyramid because that’s a whole separate thing. I’m not sure why he doesn’t talk about women’s soccer other than that he’s a man and most of his audience are men. But we do have professional women’s soccer too.