You have some nice lads.

I am one of his lads

@@SolvingOurKreation and he played SOME OF THAT UNRELEASED SHIT and this is the once unreleased shit

bruh 💀

Gotta love that unreleased shit

heard he died but those are just rumors 😳😳

@@rosie8236 bruh you believe everything you hear nowadays?? lmao haters gonna hate

zımba nah real shit he died

Nicholas Tate nah he’s still alive just rumors just like Albert Einstein is still alovet

all work and no play makes jack a dull boy I just got the news he’s not dead they just discovered he was black, so they tried to kill his career

My school had an orchestra that told about the origin of music. We had the cavemans lmao

Not sure about the point you're trying to make - music constantly evolves and new music will be discarded by the older generation as bad music? If that's the case, epic fail friend, on so many levels. The ignorance is with you.

Seems like 25000 BC has come full circle as what you describe sounds alot like today's music!!!!!

escapee ... I do believe the original commenter was joking.

@@useresu301 How can you not see the joke ?? HOW ?

what if you rape someone

@@sirshadosuketheenlightened648 that is a different story

it's actually "To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is unforgivable." they probably got 'touching' as a mistake in translation, not sure.

anna enana I don’t know about German but in Spanish the verb ‘touch’ is used for playing an instrument, probably where the mistranslation came from

@@alexw3349 yeah im spanish

Nerd

YOOOOO thats crazzyyy I don't remember asking

Could you point me to which Thesaurus you used?

@@oldjesus3996 Which word(s) there looks like it was fished up out of a thesaurus?

Good goin my dood. Good luck with the piano x

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Yes hahhahahaahahha

Yes😂

Which

Here losing our minds to that 1799 unreleased shit

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I believe Beethoven stays closer to home these days

Hahaha ded 😆

delilahjane beethoven is died

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thanks

DaKrotomo Beethoven never wrote minuets in his symphonies. He replaced them with scherzi instead.

This symphony's 3rd movement is indeed a minuet, but was the last of his symphonies to include one. Thereafter, he included a scherzo for his symphonies' 3rd movements. I suppose the minuet was a bit too square for someone of Beethoven's sensibilities.

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¡Ja ja ja ja! :D

Agreed. That improved the feeling like i'm in the theater.

It isn't youtube because you need to choose where you want the ads

@עדה מוריין as a youtuber if you have the rights

@@y.rutjes245 Not always.

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have to be a psychopath

The reason why he was able to recite those concerts after being deaf was because he had the music in his mind.

Here's something worse. Beethoven was actually mixed african and german. They made him powder his face white when he performed. We all see Ludwig as a white german but actually his African. His mom was African and his dad was German.

@@deadpool1901 im pretty sure losing your hearing is much worse

@@deadpool1901 yeah, i don't get why that's worse

@@deadpool1901 He was not african-German. Its a idea they brought up which was later turned down. Noone from the Beethoven family was from africa. His mom was German and so was his dad.

Grazie

then why don’t you marry him

heard he became a farmer *absolute beet-haven*

@@jaydens.2526 wanker

que bom

how old are you man

Tissaye about 70

I found the boomer

Most underestimate it. This and the 6th may be his most perfect symphonies.

starry2006 By almost any measure of perfection, and certainly by Beethoven’s own standards, the 1st symphony would be towards, or actually at the bottom of Beethoven’s list of 9 - assuming we were going to waste our time trying to rank them. (Ditto Mozart and Haydn, and most other composers). That said, he waited until he was ready, ready to write something really new and different, and his first symphony is certainly a clear post-Mozart/Haydn work of enormous importance.

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Puccini?

Beethoven King of Kings !!!

Brahms is king of those kings. Tchaikovsky is the lord all of those kings.

Handel: King of Oratorie

Scott Joplin: King of ragtime

It's my 61st birthday today and I'm listening to symphony no1 Next year will be no2 and this way year after year Wish me luck

@@jangutkowski7542 Good luck sir.

This comment is fine as an opinion until it starts on Mozart and Haydn about whom you clearly know next-to-nothing. One cannot speak meaningfully about the unusual off-tonic opening chord of Beethoven’s Symphony 1 without mention of the model which is clearly the opening chord of Haydn’s string quartet Opus 74 No 1. Have a listen to it, after which you might be in a position to comment more sensibly and meaningfully on the ‘…masterpiece’ you mention, and may even choose to edit some of the hyperbolic nonsense of your original comment.

YellowStudios Absolutely! It's one of the first ever classical music pieces I heard as a little child, from a strange little cartoon series from the seventies about a shapeshifting object called Beethoven; and I love it still

Yeah that’s apparently concert etiquette because they’re always recording and nobody wants to hear somebody dying in the audience every time its played lol

if you know Classical music well, you can hear that the scherzo and final movement mark this 1st. symphony out, as something which Mozart or Haydn couldn't have composed.

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thebones Generally speaking, you are correct though it should be pointed out regarding the third movement of this symphony, that Haydn had already speeded up the minuet out of all recognition. For example: - Haydn labelled the third movement of all six quartets Opus 33 published as early as 1782, as ‘Scherzi’ - and it is arguable that they should be played one-in-a-bar. - The ‘Minuet’ of the Surprise symphony (1791) is marked Allegro molto (much, or very) as is that in the much earlier Symphony 28 (1765)). - The third movements of the quartets Opus 76 No’s 1 and 6 are both marked ‘Presto’ - Haydn was writing genuine Beethovenian scherzi, but I think Haydn learnt the trick from the younger man. - Et cetera. In short: Haydn was writing genuine scherzi around the same time as Beethoven, though you are correct that Mozart had not gone this far; Mozart’s symphonic minuets are entirely the slightly more old-fashioned Allegretto-type (cf his last three - Symphonies 39, 40, and 41). That said, the scherzi in the Opus 33 string quartets (astonishingly written as early as 1781), when played as genuine one-in-a-bar rapid pieces work very well. I do think - astonishingly - that Haydn has noted Beethoven’s new scherzi, and that the younger man has prompted the older one to have a go himself. It is with his new, aggressive, one-in-a-bar scherzi that Beethoven killed-off the old three in a bar dance* movements of his predecessors. I do agree with your main point: it is evident that Beethoven, even from this first symphony, whilst acknowledging his roots, is clearly heading off down his own path. * In fact, because of their irregularities, Haydn’s symphonic Minuets are virtually un-danceable (cf almost any of the genuine Viennese ball dance music of Mozart, Haydn, and Beethoven).

This is one of his great works, whether the style appeals to some or not.

starry2006 I think one of the most important aspects of Beethoven’s greatness is that with all his major first efforts he is clearly setting off down a new path and writing new, original music. Mozart and Haydn had left enduring masterpieces of the highest level in almost every genre of music, yet Beethoven with the Opus 1 piano trios, Opus 2 sonatas, Opus 18 quartets and this 1st symphony, whilst you can hear the occasional moment reminiscent of his two great predecessors, is clearly writing something different. To be able to take music into new areas was one of Beethoven’s greatest achievements, and as such, the 1st symphony as you say, is a great work.

Bobby Wang I prefer mozart’s :-)

@@comicbutserious263 I prefer Schubert and Haydn

Ruslan Panichau well ;-)

It was a statement not a poll.

Facts

well, you' re listening to this symphony in 2018, so i don't think that someone watching in 1800 will answer you, AND this video was posted in 2014.

you've got a time machine... LOL

Rafael Barutti it’s a joke lol

@@farrohkrossi5250 r/whooooosh

Please understand the joke😂

En effet, je trouve aussi que Beethov est simplenent parfait pour l'étude.

I would love to see what Bach might have think of that if he was still alive. But yes starting a symphony on a dominant seventh chord is just briliant.

It isn't just a V-I cadence. It is a secondary dominant on the tonic. I believe the piece is in F Major, and it starts on an F Dominant chord. I always thought it was hilarious as well. Kind of the musical equivalent of "and now for something completely different". But also Beethoven being extremely confident, as though he was intentionally picking up where previous compositions all left off.

sultown Good point - the model is the two opening chords of the first movement of Haydn’s String Quartet Opus 74 No1.

RmDIr Sudo Su Haydn had already done it; listen to the first two chords of the String Quartet Op 74 No 1. Beethoven’s is off-tonic, but that was yet another trick he took directly from Haydn (and then did his own thing).

Rajan Hariharan You are quite right. From the Opus 1 piano trios, Opus 2 sonatas, 1st symphony, the Opus 18 string quartets, et cetera - all his first efforts in these forms - it was quite clear that Beethoven was setting out deliberately to create a very new and different kind of music from that of his two great predecessors Mozart and Haydn.

Grosse Fuge was his magnum opus in terms of pushing boundaries.@@elaineblackhurst1509

People hold their coughs during the song and then when the orchestra stops its mass coughing time

HAHAHAHAHA

Instead of applauding at the end, everyone just starts fucking coughing.

They should give out lozenges for free.

Steve Stop fuckin coffing and we’ll stop with the swearing, huh?

Unknown Gamer Recte: 1800.

France homme 🥺

You heard that? Or how about he could still sort of hear? He lost his hearing young because of abuse...

@@christopherrousseau1173 According to Beethoven's letters, he described beginning to hear "buzzing" noises and other sounds at age 26. Before that he could hear perfectly fine. Abuse didn't play into his hearing loss.

No. Ratio + yb better + L + fatherless +motherless + familyless + homeless + do better

no speak in inglish

Okay grandpa

so corny

Ich auch!

ich auch!

He wasn't deaf when he wrote this. he didn't start to lose his hearing until the 3rd symphony, and although it continued to deteriorate throughout his life, he never went 100% deaf

Oh. @@python_7179

Germany sucks

Did you forget Georg Philipp Telemann who was greater than Bach

I like Pachelbel

@@benalthouse4189 Thats actually rascist

should we be concerned by your enthusiasm?

That's quite all right. You appear attractive and we'll give you a pass.

@@lbowsk hilarious!

Tony Chong sugo-ae (Japanese)

The Green Cast TM I’m sorry, blew up?

the scherzo is a blast too...

Andante is more walking pace, here I think it's taken a little too slow at times.

Zeus..with Beethoven himself, it was opposite. ;)

The music of Mozart and Beethoven - Haydn too - could be better described in terms other than primordial grunts; that said, there is more sense in your comment than many others on KZfaq!

Nathaniel Maldonado Hasn’t been THAT long

Blanca Balcázar claro que si soy amante de esta musica bella y divina que nos inspira a vivir en armonia y tranquilidad ..es lo maximo lo mejos q podemos escuchar..

cierto

Eu falo português!

Me encanta esta música 😁

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Exactly! It's more about his music then it is about him. His symphonies are characters!

Good point! That conflict would the best part of a genius' story. You cannot judge them using ordinary social standards. So is Van Gogh. It's sad that we have so many social rules restricting real talents.

Are you famous yet?

Amber Myers . All the best of luck in the world. let us know when it is published.

Amber Myers you famous yet?

Puoi dirlo forte 😀😀

Love those as well!

Milton de Rezende Don’t really see the relevance of Mozart, but Haydn had already done something similar; listen to the opening of the quartet Opus 74 No 1, the only difference is that Beethoven’s is off-tonic - but that’s another Haydn trick as well. Beethoven’s first symphony is specifically a *symphony,* and generally it is a great *work,* and a fantastic *piece,* but it ain’t no song (something that has words, for example ‘I walk the line’ by Johnny Cash is a song).

Atake? I thought that was lil uzi vert..

Dickhead

Ok

I was born on 17’s ok

Not that joke AGAIN?!! It's so tiresome when people use other folk's jokes. So unoriginal.😩

Caters Carrots Some interesting points, however it might have been better not to quite so carelessly link together Mozart and Haydn as you have done in your comment. Haydn’s later compositions in particular in the string quartets and trios, but also in the symphonies, sonatas and oratorios have some radically new tonal ambiguity, movement, and clashes (the E major slow movement in the E flat sonata Hob. XVI:52 for example) which went some way beyond anything in Mozart. It was one of the things Beethoven studied carefully in Haydn and then did his own thing; for example, the 5th symphony whilst nominally being in c minor, closely mirrors Haydn’s Symphony 95 in a journey through a series of third related keys. Haydn had being doing this sort of thing throughout his career and even back in 1772, Symphony 45 in f# minor (‘Farewell’), follows an avant la lettre Beethovenian tonal scheme and structure of radical evolutionary dimensions: 1st movement: f# minor (with the sensationally innovative and radical idea of the D major second subject not appearing in the exposition but being delayed until the development section). 2nd movement: A major 3rd movement: F# major 4th movement: Presto - f# minor Adagio - first section, A major Adagio - second section, F# major. Haydn does not always get the credit he deserves; the ‘Farewell’ symphony (1772) is the greatest work of through-composition and cyclic integration before Beethoven’s 5th (1808). The greatness of Beethoven was that he studied both his two greatest predecessors very carefully, he took more from Haydn than is sometimes acknowledged; but he then developed music in new and different ways, radical evolutionary ways. The difference between Mozart and Haydn however, was that for Beethoven, Mozart provided answers and solutions, but Haydn posed questions and challenges.

@@elaineblackhurst1509 Read your commentary, Haydn sounds much less complex to me than Mozart

Doug Chertoff It’s not so much to do with complexity but density; Mozart’s music reveals the extraordinary density of his musical thought - clothed in a very magical orchestration - which is totally different from Haydn. Complexity and density are different things but easily confused; in terms of the symphony, Mozart really only has both in his last six symphonies, Haydn has rather more of the complexity, variety and ingenuity in most of his symphonies, but less of the density judged by Mozartian standards. With Haydn, besides what I have written in my first comment there is a much greater degree of motivic development as well, and his works are often monothematic ie the second subjects are variants of the first, rather than the contrasting ones of Mozart. Haydn builds large-scale structures from small cells, something Beethoven took directly from Haydn and nowhere else; Mozart is a profusion of contrast. The ingenious development of themes which occurs in Haydn is usually more intellectual but less immediately appealing than the extraordinary contrasting and cantabile lines of Mozart. Beethoven is far closer to Haydn as a composer than he is to Mozart - as already mentioned, he took up many of Haydn’s compositional techniques and then did his own thing with them; there is generally speaking, far more of Haydn evident in Beethoven’s compositional technique and music than there is of Mozart outside a small number of works that Beethoven clearly modelled on Mozart, for example his 3rd piano concerto on Mozart’s 24th. Neither Mozart nor Beethoven would have spent so much time studying Haydn’s works if they were ‘much less complex’ - Beethoven for example copied out a number of Haydn’s compositions such as the whole of the string quartet Opus 20 No 1 of 1772, and parts of the Symphony 99 of 1793. Beethoven studied Haydn’s compositions carefully because he could learn from them. In short, there is no lack of complexity in Haydn’s music, it’s better to try to discover and understand exactly what it is in Haydn that so interested Mozart and Beethoven. Think of Haydn and Mozart as a sort of musical Laurel and Hardy; totally different but very special and brilliantly effective in their own way. I sometimes think it helps to think of Mozart and Haydn thus: Mozart was more interested in the sound the notes made, whilst Haydn was more interested in what he could do with them - again, this latter point is the essence of Beethoven’s composition technique as well. Hope that helps.

@@elaineblackhurst1509 I will expose myself to more of Haydn's works. I'm still relatively new to you tube, so I will seek out your mentions, and seek out random works of his as well. You have to admit, the trilogy of Mozart 39, 40, 41 symphonies combined are some of the most stunning pieces of music ever produced. I personally like anything before 1820 or so, very few pieces after that I like, but that's my taste and everyone has their own likes and dislikes. Hate jazz, and a lot of modern music as well. Oh well, don't know why i mentioned that, i guess as a comparison of sorts to Mozart and Haydn

When it comes to composing music, I think Bach, Haydn, Beethoven are all on the same page, Mozart on another.

muggymug Wich one?

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Rindo muito aqui.

concordo!!!!!!!!!!

Julio Cesar Rodrigues Cattapan na verdade vc tem que culpar o dono do canal, ele que escolhe se os videos dele terão anuncios

Julio Cesar Rodrigues Cattapan No caso quem pos nn foi o KZfaq, foi o dono do canal...

Ifood ainda está bom, meu amigo. O duro é uma música dessa clave ser interrompida por um comercial com Michel Teló cantando. Lamentável.

God took some of him, but he gave him the incredible sense of 🎼.

Oui. Ces symphonies sont parfaites. Et l'Ode a la Joie est une des meilleures oeuvres de l'humanite! Excusez-moi, je n'ai pas d'accents a mon portable.

I listen man

muggymug, I am!

Also!

This question is as stupid as to ask, if anybody still takes interest in Shakespeares plays. What the hell has this to do with 2018?

...with a beer 🍺

It IS remarkable, perfect piece.

starry2006 I think you’re partly right; the remarkable thing about this work is that where Mozart and Haydn had left the symphony, for Beethoven to come up with something so astonishingly new was a sign of things to come. Perfection is a rather more difficult thing to measure!

@@elaineblackhurst1509 'Perfection' was just a lazy way for me to say consistent high quality. I think he very much built on Haydn but put his own twist on it. It's a bit more consistent for me than the 2nd,. With the 3rd he want in a more epic direction, simply a different approach. Overall I think I prefer the 1st to the 8th as well, which is the only later one on a similar scale.

Too many wannabe proffesors talking rubbish It is an exquisite syphony Pure LvB and NOTHING like anything Mozart wrote Chalk and Cheese😊😊😊😊😊