you don't say? well that's one for the books. I'm just a couple, or a few minutes into it, & I myself already like it.

I really don’t care what innie others think of it , I just know it’s one of my favorite movies especially war movies! I do know they screwed up the name of the movie.

What’s more the remnants of the real German army were used as extras with their real uniforms.

the cigarette flicking in the mouth was a bit over the top.....🤫

Descent?

@@toffeeriot4219- We all know what he meant 🙄

Hans Christian Blech also served in the Wehrmacht and received his facial scars on the Eastern Front.

Werner was in so many great films! My favorite is Ship Of Fools, with an elderly Vivien Leigh and an aging Simone Signoret, and many other stars.

Thanks for that, I don't understand why these uploaders use the wrong movie titles.

It is the 1951 film Decision Before Dawn, which has been on dvd for some time now. Perhaps the poster figured by renaming it, it would skip the YT censors, but it does not work that way. It only ever went under one title.

@@skully317 I think it's because copyright issues......

Sometimes the name is changed in Europe or America, or on a later re-release, But sometimes it's a useless attempt at copyright evasion.

Yes, and I really loved the acting of Oscar Verner. He was great in Fahrenheit 450, the original version as Montag. He was in WWII in the Wehrmacht Nazi army but he was NOT a Nazi. He had done some acting when in his teens and used that to pretend that he was mentally defective so as to get out of being sent to the front. He even married a Jewish girl and hid out in the woods till the war was over.

Ur correct

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I've always really loved Oscar Verner! Even when he's old, in films like Ship Of Fools, a wonderful film that's packed with different stars! Everyone should see that! Sadly, like all super good looking male actors of his time, he died very young. Of a heart attack I think.

Yeah, me to and I"m always sad when those great actors destroy themselves due to their own mental maladies. He experienced such horrors in his real life before acting that I'm sure caused much of his deconstruction of the self. Like other actors in his class, he has such an ease of it and so believable in his moment. Camera rolls and he's ON!

And Ship Of Fools, a GREAT film!

nobody cares

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Agreed, well put together. Great acting and very believable.

I loved that movie! I've seen it 4 times!

A desserter...or a man of conscience and moral fortitude?

@@heatherhinde6544 That's the question, isn't it?

@@heatherhinde6544 A desserter ... a man who makes apple pie a la mode, Boston cream pie and Sticky Toffee Pudding?

Yes, that is the real title of the movie -- Decision Before Dawn -- which was nominated for Best Picture at the 1952 Academy Awards and for Best Editing btw. Why it was posted on KZfaq with a false title, I don't know. I've seen the movie a few times over the years, the first time when I was a little kid with my babysitter, and I remember my first vague memory of some of the scenes. According to Wikipedia, this film was one of General Douglas MacArthur's favorites. It's taken for granted now, but much of the movie was shot in post-war Germany while still under Allied occupation, with the death and destruction and the Nazi regime still quite fresh in people's minds there as well as seen in the real, ruined buildings in the German cities where many of the scenes were shot. Those are not scenery sets erected for the movie. The German actors lived through the Nazi period in Germany, some of them were granted draft deferments because the Nazis wanted them to continue acting in films that raised the morale of the German soldiers. Oskar Werner was a draft dodger and pacifist who had to hide from the Gestapo. Nazi Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels in real life tried to hit on the actress who plays the disillusioned hooker in the film -- Hildegard Knef, but she rejected him. Fortunately, nothing happened to her as a consequence. I also find it amazing how many of these native German actors were fluent in English, even just after the war, which means they learned English while living under the Nazis since they remained in Germany throughout the Hitler years.

Interesting. Thanks. Well, these German actors learned to speak English fluently somehow in the German school system. They certainly are too fluent to assume they learned English to that level in just a short time after the war. And unlike Hollywood star Marlene Dietrich who left Germany for the US out of protest against Hitler, these actors all stayed for better or for worse and lived through it. They were lucky. One big movie actress in Nazi Germany who like these actors remained in Germany and appeared in film and stage productions there produced by the Nazi entertainment industry -- Lizzi Waldmüller -- was killed in an Allied bombing raid on Vienna towards the end of the war in very early 1945.

@@jody6851 Re your your comments on the fluency in English of the native German actors, I've deleted my reply containing the quote from John G, the retired university lecturer in German, because it's irrelevant. Although he's correct, he's much too specific: he's only talking about when English became MANDATORY in schools. What's much more important and relevant is that English has been taught in German schools since the 19th century (although maybe not in all schools and not in all regions and probably not for students of all ages). For more details, take a look at a 2014 paper entitled "The Foreign Language Curriculum in Northern German schools (1850-1900)" by T. Giesler in OpenEdition Journals. "The modern foreign languages French and (later) English found their way into the German curricula over the course of the 19th century," Giesler says.

yes indeed, most certainly I myself agree, couldn't agree with you more I don't think, & unless of course I myself am mistaken

There is a wiki article on her

Yes, I recognised her from a film I watched two months ago, The Man Between. Striking looks.

@@jsmith498 She's also in DIPLOMATIC COURIER (1952) with Tyrone Power, an excellent movie (which, like this one, is free on KZfaq) about Cold War spies.

In fact, Nazi propaganda minister Josef Goebbels had the hots for her and often hit on her, but she refused him. Fortunately, without any consequence.

Yes, he is listed on idmb as the whining soldier.

you're German? how's it over there now, huh?

@@awokeorasleepgodsaves. Much better, no more ruins

Why do you care about a hat??

Why?

Sorry for your pain whatching else misery deflects your own pain. i understansd

That's exactly what I'm doing..

get an ad blocker?

KZfaq shot me off until I capitulated.@@sailordude2094

At 31 minutes I'm thinking you are right! I think I'll watch it on a different channel.

The cigarettes at that time had no added chemicals.

you can say that again, brotha, preach, & teach, preach, & teach

Grow up !!

Is this to choose the "biggest idiot on television" contest?

You sure you got the right comment page. This is a 1951 movie. LOL we have enough idiots in America pretending to be politicians. We don't need professional ones or do we??

The guy that you mean was Robert Graf. He died in 1966. He did not participate in this film.

@@klaus-peterkubiak7795 you are indeed correct. I found the guy, Oskar Werner. Complete opposite of Robert Graf. Thank you!

They sometimes get taken down for title

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

The credits are trimmed off and the title changed to trick YT into letting it be posted. I think we have got to see this movie here should be grateful for that ploy. (I'm not sure that I would've watched a movie with the title DECISION BEFORE DAWN. Too generic. This fake title is what lured me into watching it.

@@RSEFX That ploy never works. The software that hunts copyright infringements is not that overly simplistic! This film has been up on other channels for years.

A Utah Church where?

in early us films, subtitles and use of foreign languages were rare

Because we use English.There is a Dutch speaking version of this movie, easy to find with the help of the tube or WWW.. but it’s the almost same movie. There is commercial interruptions free on my playlist for innie one too enjoy!

how else would anybody be able to understand them if a person does not know Deutsch, or the german language? I myself only remember so few words of the German language myself.

Who cares?

It's in the English language, not made in England! Here's one in Spanish. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8WWgq-F27WsZp8.html

@@deputydawg6244 it isn’t even in the English language but in the appallingly bastardised version of the language used in the US. There’s nothing remotely British about the film. The claim is simply a scam, hoping to give the film wider appeal.

@@anushkasekkingstad1300 Hey, I tried to explain why it has the word English next to the title. If you don't want to accept that explanation that's up to you.

@@deputydawg6244 Your explanation would only satisfy a deeply ignorant U.S. American. It doesn’t have the word “English” next to the title. It has the phrase “English full movie”, whatever that’s supposed to mean. More recently, we watched a film named “Called to Spy” it was about SOE agents operating in France during WW2. The soundtrack was in French, German and English. It was British made, with British and French actors, British film crew. Virginia Hall, a U.S. American, who contributed substantially in the events covered, was played by a U.S. actress who had clearly lived in Europe for long enough to lose her dreadful US accent. No other US voice was heard. My wife’s first language is French and we’re both fluent in French and German and felt the film to be authentic. Having a grating US accent in France after the US finally entered the war, would have ensured a very short life expectancy. Hall was a well travelled woman who spoke French and German fluently.

@@anushkasekkingstad1300 So you refuse to accept a perfectly logical explanation and resort to insults. Who is the ignorant one? BTW, I'm Japanese.

Rehabilitation of West Germany prior to its inclusion into NATO. (1955)

Where did they give NAZIS compassion and self searching? Kinski wasn't playing a Nazi. You do know that not all Germans in Germany at the time were Nazis, right? Or maybe you don't.

Perhaps its purpose is simple to tell a true story of one man's war experience.

@@PoochAndBoo One in ten Germans was a card carrying member of the NSDAP - over 8 millions and of those that were not, well look at the 1940 newsreel footage of the "victorious" soldiers coming home from France showing all of the crowd waving their little swastika flags and giving the Hitler salute . . .

This ''stupid war; 'movie'' was a nominee for Best Picture for the 1951 Oscars. It was praised by critics for it's realism about war. Sorry it flew above the heads of Trumpies.

They don't call it the idiot box for nothing@@williamsnyder5616

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@@williamsnyder5616 I hate MAGAts too, but why would you accuse that person of being one, just because they don't like war movies? In general I don't care for most war movies either. It just depends on the film. Anyway please don't make accusations without proof. That behavior makes all lefties look bad, and helps no-one.

@@conveyor2 Only idiots use the word "woke".

The stupidity lay in the starting of the war. The intelligence lay in realising that it needed to end, and in finding the courage to help bring it about.

I'm only six minutes in and, as written, glaring non sequitur. Driver gets lost, claims no sense of direction. Yet, when they arrive at destination driver is obviously familiar with the place as he "hunts" chickens for the nuns. See ya

Thoughtful review.