When izzy Quit it was GAME 0VER

Absolutely loved both when they came out and still love both albums. 86-93 recordings were great!

There is no way it's coincidence that I was talking about this album with a coworker 30 minutes ago and now this is on my recommended feed.

In Slash’s autobiography, Axl went through every patch on every synthesizer and workstation for November Rain. The choir section is actually artificial but in weird way sounds organic 😊

For songs like 'November Rain' and 'Don't Cry' and 'Estranged' - these big, sort of epic pieces - me and Axl sat, I believe over there on the floor [points], we ordered some Russian caviar, we had a bottle of vodka... and we listened to 'Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me' by Elton John," the drummer continued. Upon hearing the tom fill in the John song, Rose said to Sorum, "I want you to do that, or something like that, on 'November Rain.'" The catch was, the singer wanted this "signature drum fill" to also appear on "Don't Cry" and "Estranged." "I said, 'You want me to use the same drum fill?'" Sorum continued. "He said, 'Yes.' So I did the most famous fill that drummers give me shit for all the time, it's called the 'Pat Boone-Debby Boone.'"

Thank you so much for this. I really enjoyed this mini documentary. A couple of additions for this if I may. The UYI tour did not start with Rock in Rio in January 1991. The tour started in late May 1991 in East Troy Wisconsin. Also, "Double Talkin Jive" was being recorded at Studio 56 on Santa Monica and Orange and unfortunately some poor soul's remains were discovered behind the studio. That is where Izzy came up with the lyrics. Axl was arrested for an alleged neighbor dispute at this same exact time which was late October 1990. I was 17 years old when UYI finally came out. The anticipation for that double disc album was building for over two years. People honest to God were delirious just to know that GNR were still a functioning band. Axl also moved into one of the recording studios, which one I don't know. He said in an interview that he was desperate to make something beyond AFD.

Really loving these videos man!

Brilliant with the tom hook!!

It's Friday and that can only mean one thing, another great video! Thanks

Nice tip from Bill Price to heavily compress the backing track and then put the vocals on top!

My absolutely most favourite albums of all time.

Adlers drumming on Appetite was brilliant...Izzy added inspiration and a real raw and crunchy rock n roll guitar. That line up could not been topped

Please do one on Bob Rock’s production on Dr. Feelgood

You all are amazing. Thank you for the love and positivity!

Both albums are amazing without any filler songs.

Great rundown of the gear they used

Axl: So, November Rain, Estranged and Don't Cry (I&II) are a trilogy with a run time of 2h47m, so if you could play a signature roll... Steven: Yeah, I'm just going to get incredibly high, just enough so I can forget this conversation.

I'd like to share the ONE GnR story I have. Saw them at Hershey Stadium around that time. Skid Row opened and worked the crowd to a FRENZY. GnR came on and played 3 or 4 of their new epics and promptly killed the energy. Duff got on the mic and yelled 'you people are DEAD'. Got a little better when they started playing some actual rock songs, but man what a lost opportunity.

I'm a guy from the dark.. Alternative Rock, Industrial, Indie, Prog... etc.. But in the end, i'm just a fan of music.. Learned to play guitar, also because of that.. But i have to say.. Use your Illusion I & II, are true masterpieces of rock. 1991... Maybe the best year of all times, to those who really love music... Not 1 genre of music... Just Music.. Some examples of 1991 : Nevermind - Nirvana Ten - Pearl Jam Achtung Baby - U2 Metallica (a.k.a. The Black Album) - Metallica Trompe le Monde - Pixies Blood Sugar Sex Magik - Red Hot Chili Peppers The Low End Theory - A Tribe Called Quest Out of Time - R.E.M. Use Your Illusion II - Guns N' Roses Blue Lines - Massive Attack Loveless - My Bloody Valentine Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill BadMotorFinger - Soundgarden Screamadelica - Primal Scream Temple of the Dog - Temple of the Dog Apocalypse '91 - Public Enemy Diamonds and Pearls - Prince Innuendo - Queen Trompe le Monde - Pixies Arise - Sepultura Electronic - Electronic Schubert Dip - EMF Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge - Mudhoney Doubt - Jesus Jones Mr. Bungle - Mr. Bungle Blur - Leisure Smashing Pumpkins - Gish Green Mind - Dinosaur Jr. Primus - Sailing the Seas of Cheese De La Soul - De La Soul Is Dead N.W.A. - Efil4zaggin Orbital - Orbital Gang Starr - Step in the Arena My Bloody Valentine - Loveless and the list goes on... and on.. Fast Foward to 2024.... We're in Sahara Desert..... No water... no emotions.. almost no life at all.. Creativity was demanded by us, on those days.. Today... well.. i won't talk bad, some thing are fine..... But it's a universe much much smaller... Claustrophobic.... Repetitions and tired formulas are Kings, just like the movies....

Awesome channel

Barely had enough gold material for one album buuuuuuut...drugs so, RELEASE TWO ALBUMS!!!!!

This is turning into my favourite channrl

i was 16 in 92 , and i borrowed the tape of illusion 2 from a friend to make a copy , (never return it , still have it somware ) and buy the illusion 1 after a bit

Thanks a lot for this, please give me more😂

My older brother preordered these.

Was 2nd row in St. louis when it all started to come apart. Never seen so many cops in my life. There had to have been 100 cop cars and several swat teams. People were shooting fireworks at police helicopters n the parking lot. It was out of control. Glad I was there though

I bet Axl was going nuts over that November Rain mix hahaha as someone who mixes their own recordings, just mix it, master it, then move on!

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Slash; "He just broke the microphone, we're _outta_ here." Off mic voice from someone in the band beside him; _"I_ don't know 🤷🏻‍♂️" 😂😂😂☠☠☠

When they came out, I was kind of disappointted after Appetite but, as GnR were my fav band, I enjoyed them for a while.

A trimmed down version could have been a truly great album. Maybe 2 discs with one side rock and the other slower or slightly slower. Mine would have been: 1: Right Next Door to Hell - Live and Let Die - You Could Be Mine - Perfect Crime - Double Talkin' Jive - Locomotive - Don't Damn Me - Dust N' Bones - Pretty Tied Up - Garden of Eden - Coma. 2: November Rain - Yesterdays - Civil War - 14 Years - The Garden - Don't Cry - Breakdown - Knockin' on Heaven's Door - Bad Obsession - Estranged.

The two iconic guitars from this album you never even mentioned.

This is one of the first tapes I ever bought as a kid. Yes, tapes. Anyways, I still consider this a guitar masterpiece and it’s what made me stop listening to music, and instead, pick up a guitar and play along. And I heard in this video that critics said there were “filler” tracks on these albums. Nonsense. Only crap song imo was “my world” that axl included with no one’s knowledge.

Matts a good dude he played on our 2nd record great drummer but didn’t have Stevens swing.

Great Video with a lot information. But, I'm pretty sure that Steven Adler Record "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" and "Civil War" on the UYI album. Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty sure.

There was an operatic reach to that double album beyond the hairband roots.

Matt's 'story' is nonsense. The real story is Axl told him to do it a certain way and Matt said 'OK Boss'. Great job on putting this video together Mixing Mastering Online. Thanks!

The loss of Stephen Popcorn Adler was a real shame because he was a much cooler Gn’R drummer than Sorum. Sorry. 😂

I wonder which songs have the 58 Explorer on them.. I love Exporers they sit right in between a les Paul and an SG tone wise. They can also do a great job of covering fkying v tones . In my opinion its the most versatile Gibson .

Really wish Adler could've gotten his stuff together. Illusion would be different I'm sure. Should've told axl to bounce and not sign anything. Velvet revolver sounds way more guns than democracy which shouldn't have ever been a guns album. Appetite though is truly a great album. Excellent video thanks.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="177">2:57</a> that is one hard photo

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="515">8:35</a> is that weed and a bong on the Billboard magazine?

Cool info -- what a disaster Axl was back then, as was the rest of the band. It's amazing those records got completed.

I always heard it was the song Locomotive that was the one Adler had to keep doing takes because he kept coming in wrong on the timing and was the final straw that got him kicked out.

Im sure im not alone when i say that i was so bummed when they finally came out and i listened to them. Or attempted to. It would have been a bit better if it was just one album of good stuff instead of all the b.s. The first one was the first cd i ever owned. They came in that big dumb box.

There's no bad moments on either of these records.

Slash is the reason I picked up a guitar at 7 years old. GnR has always been, and still is my favorite band. That said, they were never as good once they let Adler go. He had a bounce to his playing that Matt just doesn't have. You can easily hear a degradation in the quality of the rhythm section when they got Matt. Duff never meshed with Matt the way he did Steven. I feel like Steven being replaced was all Slash and Axl's doing, even though Slash and Adler were supposed to be friends. I mean, it was a heroin addict firing a heroin addict and alcoholic because they were too fucked up. That's ridiculous. There's plenty of footage from the early 90s where Slash played like complete shit because he was so messed up.

I didn't realize Josh Homme played Keyboards as Dizzy Reed in GnR

Loosing Adler was the end of their edgy sound

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="570">9:30</a> 😭

With the UYI albums, G'n'R zigged when they should have zagged. The rawness of "Appetite" fit right in with what the newer grunge bands were doing. G'n'R was one of the few 1980s bands that could have continued into the 1990s with credibility, because they didn't need to change what they were doing. What they did instead was drop a bloated, pretentious and over-produced double album that was just the sort of thing 1990s music was rebelling against. Or I should say that's what Axl did.

The end of gnr was when they fired adler , hired dizzy and when izzy quit. And the illusion your was a overblown circus with the background singers. But they were nice to look at😂😂

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="478">7:58</a>, bottom left, is that Bong N' Bud?

The rhythm guitars are buried on these albums. You can hardly hear them. Also, Axl was starting to lose his voice by these albums. Most songs on AFD he sings in his falsetto. On UYIs he rarely uses his falsetto, but sings in his mask voice really loud, because he can't hit high notes consistently anymore. Of course losing Adler hurt, but everyone else has already stated that. Offsubject from the UYI albums, but I wish that they could have found a way to keep Izzy as, at the least, a studio musician. I also wish that as time has gone by that Axl would have given up the vocals job to the best Axl impersonater on the market, as his voice has an incredibly short shelf life.

Soooo- we getting a Chinese democracy video next 👀

Sorum has used that same drum fill on every recording hes ever done 😂

There's no such thing as a JCM 800 2203 'four input model'. For the four input ones, it's just JCM 800 1959 for the 100 watt and JCM 800 1987 for the 50 watt one. They are basically a Superlead Plexi in JCM 800 clothing. I had one, which I bought with a refund after my JMP 1959RR Randy Rhoads amp blew up two weeks after getting it new. The JCM 800 2203 is pretty much just the JMP 2203 with the newer look. The master volume model, which cascades the two halves of V1 and has the MV between the tone stack and phase splitter tube. They were hassled in the late 1970s by a distributor to update the styling of the amp line up, which is why JCM 800 happened.

All the songs on these albums written during the Appetite era I can only imagine how cool Adler's drum parts were. His sound and all those little hooks he does with Duff feeding off of them would have made the albums tolerable. Adlers fault though. And the band was in too fragile of a state to wait and coach Adler back to his senses. Having been a fan since a month after Appetite's release i knew the band was over when adler was out.

I heard Civil War on the radio multiple times way before the albums were released, in 1990. Then it disappeared until the album was released. Weird. I think the piano was missing from the version I heard in 1990.

You have a band of awesome talented musicians, and then you have Axl Rose...

No Popcorn no Guns n Roses, sorry Axl its true. I saw many interviews after they kicked him out where they could bearly see or talk..........wtf ? Kicked him out but seems the rest just kept doing their usual thing ! Good friends.

If you take the very best tracks from Illusion I & II you get an album that's half as good as Appetite.

3 litres of Vodka per day 😂

That’s how this video ended? Is there a part two?

My world was dreadfull

What did Slash see in Sorum? The drums on use your illusion are terrible.

Use Your Illusion I and II are the biggest letdown in rocknroll. GNR exploded out of nowhere and set the rock world on fire with Appetite. Then we got those half assed EP's, then waited for years for the next album to drop, and that shitty offering is what we got. No band rocketed to fame faster and higher, and no band just imploded faster and lower than GNR. Thanks Axl...

They should have called them Use Your Delusion. Couple of decent songs, tons of filler and very clinical, clean production. Which is funny as they went for Bill Price because they said they didn’t want that.

doing the same drum fill in 3 songs over & over was dumb. makes it a tedious listen

I liked the original band, especially when Addler was still sober enough to drum. His groove was slinky and very Rock N Roll. Unfortunately, I could never get past Axhole's vocals. They are like fingernails down a chalkboard. The only thing worse is his personality (or lack thereof). Of course my nobody opinion did not stop him from being a massive rockstar. Thanks MMO.

Axl singing past the year 2000 was an illusion he shouldn’t have been using…

Metallicas Black Album tour was twice as long

and now axl sounds like micky mouse .....

These albums are way too loud…it’s hard to make out the parts. I remember pretending to not be annoyed by that when I was a kid. I always felt 70s heavy tones are better than 80s/90s heavy tones.

Use your illusions > appetite

No one can drink that much vodka in on day 3 to 4 L. No man. Just ask John Bonham. But his pancreas did rupture. So theres that. Duff that is.

Who cares? Appetite was their masterpiece and losing Adler destroyed the synergy of that band

I like Appetite for destruction only. The illusion albums where not good to me. Roses had lost all the roughness

Just like the best double album of the 90s, the blue disc was better.

The album was too engrained in a wall-of-sound, 80s production/mixing style.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="238">3:58</a> But, you know… “Play authentic.” 😂

FFS wake up and smell the bullshit. 4 bottles of vodka per day? Always off their tits on heroine? Yeah OK. This hasn't been exaggerated at all to promote a certain rock n roll image for the band? I guess slash just became amazing on the guitar by magic without needing to practise for several hours per day whilst sober? and probably the best rock album of all time just wrote itself and recorded itself, whilst the band members were slouched around completely wasted. Absolute nonsense. It takes hard work to be this successful, not being wasted the whole time. 😂

You list NO sources for any of this info

Everything after Appetite is crap.

They should have released the UYI material as four albums over four years. The albums as is still feel like a disorganized mess.

this is so insane. you get to live a dream that so many of us wanted and are fully capable of doing but your complicated. so much wasted time. so much unnecessary distractions. those albums dont sound like all the work that was put into them. the right band could have done that in 2 weeks. pathetic.

Both albums sucked in comparison to appetite. They needed Izzy and Alder.

Von UYI war ich total enttäuscht. Völlig überproduziert. Und das nach DEM Debüt!! UYI ist Quantität statt Qualität.

This is when they started to suck they kicked out Adler and put in that gay kid and a keyboard player very un heavy music then they added a bunch of others as a back up band sucked

GNR are really a one album hit wonder band. Appetite is it. Everything else is commercial and cheap. Knocking on heavens door sucks so bad. Cheap depressing song. Boring.

One of the LAMEST bands of all time!!!

The MOST OVER RATED band in Rock history

Such a shame that both Use Your Illusion 1 & 2 turned out to be absolute dogsh1t.

You gotta listen hard to find the best stuff, kinda like going to a garage sale on a sonic level. Too many BS songs and too over produced

Both albums badly produced. CDs good coffee cut coasters cassettes throw aways. Vinyl put on cymbal stands and practice crashing like a crash cymbals