i dont care what people says behringer is the future of poor mix and mastering engineers at last now i can break plugins and use hardware for just a fraction of the cost thank you BEHRINGER
@Clarence_Jr_Ross2 ай бұрын
💯
@andriooxsb5 күн бұрын
wait until it breaks. These cheap units are not repairable.
@bighousemusic6285 күн бұрын
Rubbish thats a fanboy speach
@Rareos3 ай бұрын
Hit it harder, let those transformers show their true colours. thanks for the demo.
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
Part 2 is out now. Cheers
@theCarouselPainter2 ай бұрын
Just be smart, in a few years these will pop everywhere on reverb/websites alike for half of its price, i'll make sure to get mine when the time comes!
@artistschoice20093 ай бұрын
we are living in a great time! Great gear for reasonal prices. Love it!
@tchip-bc1gp3 ай бұрын
wait until ww3
@VIC-20_Synthwave3 ай бұрын
Thanks for featuring Somewhere or Nowhere as the first song on this shootout. Your vocals transformed the song to different heights. I was thinking about ordering one of these, sounds like it will need replacement knobs out of the box. Would love to see you do a video running busses/stems through this. Behringer might have something here.
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
It turned out alright and very happy with it too. ;-) The Behringer is gone now. Couldn't stand the tactile feel of it. It sounded good though.
@andreievkalupniek57173 ай бұрын
It sounds really good on these mixes.
@lucid4843 ай бұрын
Sounds great on the first song. When you engage it, It really pulls the bass and drums up from the back. Sounds full but not muddy.
@waskerbasket96012 ай бұрын
Great tracks
@EspenKraft2 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@RayR3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear about the front panel knobs. I'll buy it anyways at the current price point and will use my large collection of old knobs to replace the current ones when it arrives. It's till a great deal and it will sit next to my SSL compressor to A/B and use as an alternative mix buss compressor.
@dilstoons46713 ай бұрын
Great review thank you
@virgilsstudio3 ай бұрын
Nice song!
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@khawk20123 ай бұрын
Awsome Mr. KRAFT... You Rock!.... Or You Synth Pop!!!
@McTroyd3 ай бұрын
The 369-KT didn't stand out nearly so much as your Neve 1073 preamps (which aren't even meant to be compressors). I see other comments calling for driving the input harder to get better color, but I'm guessing you'd hit clipping before those Midas transformers warmed up. Still, I did like high-ratio fast attack -- it gave your mixing style a radio-like broadcast limited sound, which is a great effect for your usual 80s styling. It evoked memories of listening to my boom box ages ago, and does a good job bringing your voice front and center. On a short release, it didn't totally squash your effects either, which is a nice distinction. Too bad about the front panel. 👍
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
I'm happy you noticed. This was indeed a real-life session as I'm slowly, one by one, putting all of my back catalogue up onto my channel, into a playlist. So I'm remastering a lot of the songs and since I had this in I wanted to use it on few songs. That 80s radio sound is exactly what I was going for hence the threshold level and little to no saturation from the transformers. Cheers :)
@justice64803 ай бұрын
Eapen- so pet shop boys influence on this track
@maxpowers34943 ай бұрын
I'm just here the synthy vibes.
@aftertheendtimes2 ай бұрын
Great song!! you are really "the 80's" alltrough,.. even the watch on your wrist is looking like a Casio f-91W or such, love the new KT-396 results,...thanks Dear Espen
@EspenKraft2 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@scottharris72222 ай бұрын
A knob kit would do it. I hope Behringer gets the memo and makes the improvement.
@jasperdany2 ай бұрын
Hey, I really loved that TR 808 mix !! ... The arrangements are really good
@EspenKraft2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@MorbidManoeuvres3 ай бұрын
Sounds killer, and great track! What’s doing bass ?
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Can't remember. It's, been years since I mixed both of these tracks.
@eancurtis93333 ай бұрын
Sounds better than plug ins thats for sure
@fabioabilio3 ай бұрын
on and off are very the same thing to me.
@markslandingsandaviationvi312317 күн бұрын
How do you quantize your audio tracks?
@EspenKraft17 күн бұрын
I don't.
@amazeus19803 ай бұрын
Drive transformers into transformers (you have 1073 clones that can btw additionally simulate mixing console summing bus) and that compressor is probably better for natural instruments instead of synths…but there are no rules really. Best on buses and for master. That compressor has more character then SSL Bus for example. Behringer won’t and should not be transparent!
@lamborghinimiura76253 ай бұрын
👌
@gcoudert3 ай бұрын
I would have preferred an attack knob instead of a slow/fast switch, personally. Shame about the build quality though. Seems like a decent, affordable piece of gear, otherwise.
@epsteinkrauss41Ай бұрын
Which I buy first vocal comp 369 or wa 2a or bluey?
@mitchelstephen75363 ай бұрын
Aww..every since the Waves L1 plug in came out.....everything got smashed to oblivion. Even I did it. But I still use a TL Audio C-1 tube compressor to control the the vocals. Cheap, sweet and warm.
@newtronixКүн бұрын
You do sound like the petshop boys!
@user-mo3dj1le8l2 ай бұрын
nice song Bytheway
@EspenKraft2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Projacked13 ай бұрын
It does the job really well, but I never heard the original machine. And delivering with parts missing ? Come on Behringer, you can do better.
@VagPoop_3 ай бұрын
that's part of the magic sauce
@PietroTaucher3 ай бұрын
sorry but I dont hear any difference when you're tweaking... I have the same 369KT and it makes big difference when pushed hard. I honestly dont hear any sound changing on this video... are you shure you plugged it right? Just guessin... I loooove the 369, it sounds like silk when desiderd (like my my Phoenix by Thermionic) but on drums it really push everything on front (Led Zeppelin sound). maybe its just my ears... but I've just checked ather videos and I can definitely hear the difference (by pass/on)
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
After 30 years as a pro studio musician and owner I know how to plug things in thank you.
@PietroTaucher3 ай бұрын
@@EspenKraft sorry I didnt meant to be disprespctful, it was an honest comment just to find out what was wrong with it... sorry buddy, its alright I'm happy with mine to a looking for my next purchase: the 1273
@EspenKraft2 ай бұрын
Nothing is wrong with it. I just didn't push it in this particular demo. I did a part 2 where I do push it. As a bus compressor I just want it to smooth things over. If I'd used it on bass or drums, for parallel compression I'd pushed it more.
@thedddemon3 ай бұрын
Cool video. You forgot to set the Threshold.
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
I forgot nothing. ;-) Cheers
@lavoltabbona3 ай бұрын
Are you joking? Espen Kraft is infallible
@Rareos3 ай бұрын
@@EspenKraft but -20 on the threshold suggest a pretty tame input.
@goonfish3 ай бұрын
@@Rareos all depends on the source material level - especially so with hardware. For especially hot "Professional" Line-Level or Eurorack Modular sources -20 would be exactly what you'd use to bring levels down to a realistic level when going into a mic-pre or standard interface/"consumer" line mixer level.
@Rareos3 ай бұрын
@@goonfish no the threshold isn't bringing the input level down, it's setting the level at which the compressor/limiter begins to react. So based on what the meters are doing here while threshold is set to -20db, the input signal is weak. The transformers at the various stages in this unit want more voltage, driving them to get into the harmonic content they impart is an important part of this unit's character. Go look at any other demo of a 33609 and check where the threshold is.
@bernyboss3 ай бұрын
Would you buy this or a vintage Alesis 3630?
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
Quite different compressors. I'd never use the 3630 as a bus compressor myself. This I would.
@Studio22mix3 ай бұрын
Better get a DBX than an Alesis imo
@LipazMusic3 ай бұрын
I never understood why a cheap clone is trying to be cheap via plastic knobs... :( And it can ruin the overall feel and otherwise good sound.
@TheDavidPoole3 ай бұрын
Knobs make zero difference to the sound, they're purely aesthetic, and will reduce the cost by maybe 10-30 bucks. That might be a lot to some people. They are easy to change up if you want to.
@LipazMusic3 ай бұрын
@@TheDavidPoole I understand all that, but 10-30 USD won't be gamechanger for anyone who pays 400+... maybe when not Finance will drive procurements... this is a phenomenon in all businesses. In the meantime all of them markets with sustainabe future and green... Shame.
@septembre11293 ай бұрын
Dude! The vibe... Who cares compressor?
@charlesdesancerre24 күн бұрын
The problem with Behringrrr will be the future… but who cares about the future?
@beatarcheologzt3 ай бұрын
I would like to know more about what you meant by you didn't like the"tactile" feeling of the unit. You mentioned that under another comment saying that's why you got rid of it. Thx 😀
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
My thoughts are always augmented in my video descriptions. Cheers
@loui7196Ай бұрын
I don't know who hears what from the demo, but choosing compressed music as a source is not very lucky. Let's say it's pointless, and you can't even hear what the test subject is actually doing.
@pinturayfotografiafilms.8831Ай бұрын
yeah, I cant hear any change.... the only real change here is thos needles moving. lol
@CrazyDriverSwed3 ай бұрын
I think the ping pong bass makes it very difficult to hear the compression. Even when compressor is bypassed the type of bass track almost sound like it's compressed.
@groovedealerfeaturing-ashl6476Ай бұрын
Sounds rather nice for the money... The track sounds EXACTLY like The Beloved from the early 1990s BTW...
@MrMe44444443 ай бұрын
Sneaky pete
@PacifierMusic3 ай бұрын
It’s not really a fair test, because everything sounds better without Behringer
@RichardDenRooyen19733 ай бұрын
snob
@EnervatedSociety3 ай бұрын
Translation: The word Behringer triggers me 🤣
@ramseysounds20863 ай бұрын
Stupid comment
@immortalitytherapper233 ай бұрын
Even if it's not a 1:1 clone, I'm sure it's adding some good harmonics to the track. With the name brand Neve, you're mostly paying for the name.
@11hughman122 ай бұрын
Someone doesn’t have ears
@lavinchi67093 ай бұрын
🫖🎂🥂
@wackerburg3 ай бұрын
Ridiculous product strategy by Mehringer 😂 Their usual customers never had solid exposure to the original units anyway and are easy to fool by similar looks. But if they're happy, it's all good 🎉
@TheDavidPoole3 ай бұрын
I own several Behringer products, most of which I have had, or used the originals. I can say that their clones are very good and the build quality is so much better than it was 20-30 years ago.
@GizzyDillespee3 ай бұрын
If your contention is correct, that people easily will be fooled by looks, whether it sounds close or not, then it actually would be a GOOD business strategy for Behringer to design around looks rather than sound. But that's your assertion, that it doesn't sound close. Personally, I've heard more emulations than the real thing, and I don't think Espen smashed this very hard in the examples, or explored more extreme settings. It's hard for me to actively dislike the mild compression from this video. My main concern is, if you're going to make the knobs so tight to turn, don't use flimsy knob caps. Some side to side comparison would be helpful to know whether it sounds like the original.
@EspenKraft3 ай бұрын
Part 2 is out tonight and will show more aggressive settings.
@wackerburg3 ай бұрын
@@StatetrooperBillyBill I have a TD-3 and rarely use it for generating sound, because it has a certain sound that always comes through. No matter how many effects you cover it with 👨🏼🍳 Then, there's the OG TB-303 which I always like. So I keep the TD-3 just as a storage unit for patterns that are not yet great enough to be on the TB-303, yet not too shabby either.
@wackerburg3 ай бұрын
@@GizzyDillespee I worked with the original unit for years and also with many other studio staples and never heard a convincing emulation of those. There are certainly great tools in the digital domain, but those are not emulations of hardware units, but rather modern and unique and creative approaches.